Joe Rogan Experience #1403 — Forrest Galante Transcript

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0:00 and what's happening brother how are you hey joe i'm good man it's great to be here thanks for trying to see if we could get in and we both found it within a month of each other oh wow yeah now it's a beautiful looking creature look at that thing right it's such a wild green But yeah, absolutely amazing. I mean, look at the teeth on that thing. So you have no idea it's there.

2:13 That page is nuts. thing of nightmares look at those fangs right in the throat like just death grip and you can see but it just seems so focused and motivated. The jag, yeah. And now there's a scientist, Sergio Riena, down in Columbia, out what their food source is, figure out how much hunting pressure they can take or his time down the Amazon. to the same same wildlife stuff um but yeah no it's who knows right who knows if it's still out

5:21 like that, there's a lot of faith and maybe even intel that they're yeah and straight away that's like discrediting you're right you're like okay what is this And look up there, Megalodon sightings. Is the Megalodon shark still alive? Yeah. Mapinguari sightings. Right, right. or whatever the species dynamic is for some other animal of your reputation as opposed to like going out there going i saw it i saw it i saw it right that

8:30 And it had this amazing jaw that would open like a snake's, like way wider than its head should. Wow. But the thylacine remained in Tasmania where there are no dingoes to out-compete them. problem if you're gonna be a guy like you actually looking for species yeah you know you gotta you And I think it would kind of shift the scales for people that are on the fence about,

10:51 Let's save it, let's bring it back. they are but um and i don't have a lot of firsthand experience with them my understanding Yeah, totally. And I find it so fascinating that that animal, which is the most ruthless of all bears, we associate with Klondike bars and Coca-Cola. Yeah. like T-34 on it. And then the real concern is that this bear is going to have a real hard time hunting because they're going to be able to see it much better

13:19 Can turn deadly for a predator now too visible for both prey and poachers. 150 people and in come 8 polar bears people love them because we grew up with teddy bears. No, that's a real thing. You're supposed to. It's common sense. table. Yeah, there's so many of those pages. bitten by sharks and all this other stuff. It's like this is why you don't do it. You've Yeah, and I got the scars to prove it, you know? Like, there's shots of me getting bitten by sharks and all this other stuff. I was like,

15:40 You can pull it up. What's the scar below it? Such a moron. And then we were going to Hawaii the next day. i'm like if it gets infected i'll i'll figure that out but how cool did you look going in the Gotcha. and i just pulled my arm back and i literally just clipped a single tooth but i think if it Don't they have like Kevlar suits that sharks can't bite through?

18:09 That's true. I was on the back of the boat like that. and that's all been banned for a long time. year they were like eight feet long. This year, I didn't go because I was traveling, but my buddy Maybe they'll move on. I don't know about Santa Barbara. I think it's right around when they start breeding, so they're a little fueled up. we have we're so helpless out there completely and you i think that's just the you just have to

21:07 So is he prodding it Wow barely no it must have just sliced by they're such cool animals they deserve a ton of respect You know? Right. And whales their morphology like their body Killer whale. They kill dolphins too, right? get your stuff toy they're smiling in every cartoon but aren't they pretty cool to people There's orcas that only eat marine mammals,

24:09 precision yeah they might mistake you well you you're a mammal and you're not you're a seal size populations that come in and do eat seals and they're like hey you assholes are starving to Right. Pull another piece out, eh, tower's still standing. like we should really take the pigs off of Hawaii. Right. But then you have a situation like Lanai, where I go every year.

27:11 and there's 3 000 people yeah and dude you ain't never seen anything like it because it's a little For people who live there, it's amazing. The only thing that keeps me from killing a ton of them collapse there'll be no birds no fish you know no lizards nothing is it worth it to have pigs we were talking about this out here. And they're all over. northern part of the United States. Right.

30:01 aren't safe the swine have established themselves in in Canada and are encroaching on border states like Montana and North Dakota. I don't know the number, should not be in an ecosystem well they certainly shouldn't be in an ecosystem when there's no They're amazing. My uncle, my mom's brother, plum and the warthog just veered off and went for the plum lucky didn't want him yeah they're they're

32:30 It looks like something out of Star Wars. Whoa. Yeah. That's a real animal. It says pig deer. Jiu Jitsu. Yeah, that's the kind of fighting mommy and Look where your cursor is. bridge of their snout is they if they're not broken in fights and rooting around they can Your assholes will live forever and eat everything in front of you. And what do you do?

34:54 where you could slip that over and torque your head. what a beautiful animal so there's an extinct subspecies of those called the malocan barbarusa And you look where they were and what they said and what they ate. Is it really extinct? Have we looked everywhere? that's there this like harrowing journey to find this creature that the world has written off it's

37:35 until they found out about that hobbit person that lives in the island of Flores. for two days six miles it's you should look at the pictures of this place you'll love it i mean In fact, this is my show that comes out tonight. so let's see this is massive and oh my god that's inside the tent i mean that's inside the cave yeah look at the wedding Well, that's why.

39:56 live in the forests of vietnam this is the kind of my point is this giant six mile long cave with the first one's bad the second one is so bad it's it's funny yeah right because they did a descent I stopped watching because you guys took me on the cave thing. I think so. black how they used to always check the uh whatever it was called they check like the

42:15 person look we know those little monkey people were real yeah exactly god damn imagine if that's a roadkill yes or why yeah but the thing is like there's a lot of mountain lions good luck finding a dead one yeah yeah look at that look at Oh, that thing looks like it's wearing shorts, dude. right some yeah some subset yep there's another image That looks really short

44:46 Okay, so here's size comparison. I know. out that it's real? Right, right. like you're catching and putting them in zoos you know to breed them and keep the population up have not been civilized in terms of how we view the world today with inclusivity and objectivity you know, pair of thylacine. Fast forward 10, 15 years, you start having these chubacabra sightings pop up in

48:08 Not personally. A thylacine? and that's like in guys living rooms in you, you know, a cage. Yeehaw. So, like, for yourself, when you go hunting there, it's all private? Right. It was so insane and really sad, really sad because there's something incredibly romantic and killing the buffalo, day don't have a reservation but and bad land is my understanding terrible assholes yeah yeah but

51:57 left some of it out because it was so distasteful really yeah he's trying to figure out like how he And not just almost, but did, you know, like pre-human settlement, it's all attributed to the decline. birds yeah and that that gets intricate because the animal's ecology is such that it needs many And some of those, well, the bison, I should say, some of those images of those bison skulls, like, stacked up.

54:09 which is crazy. It just shows what abundance we had you know what i mean nowadays and not that i'm pro wiping out Right? Yeah. Sorry, what did you say it's called? have an actor read it okay and it was terrible apparently according to steve yeah yeah it's like wonder with that book i can't remember remember his name, but absolutely love the story. Yeah, right.

56:53 I don't know. yeah i've okay i read it first and then i then i listened to the all right i'm confused so i bush in africa and around wildlife and you know he's juggling that and a kind of defunct social Like I'm in the food web. of it any longer yeah it's such a weird place too when it comes to wildlife when you know they brought so many animals back from the brink of extinction only because they have value for

59:15 Yep. No, it's okay because they're all fenced in, I was going to say. Yeah. and they're managed beautifully well. The animals are getting devastated. regime i mean it's it's notorious for being as corrupt as it was and you know created violence Do you know who he is? in his brain oh boy not only that he goes so deep into the congo that they feel like it might be an

1:01:50 And the, you know, the drugs that they put them on, The microorganisms yeah all passionate yeah he's like the most generous person i and he's made an impact. The most passionate. It's fucking amazing. like the one thing that makes my skin crawl that's weird because i love them yeah yeah i'm sure First, only one specimen has ever been found before, The Fernandina Island tortoise.

1:05:09 on the first return trip they had to bail because of weather and the weather is very harsh there When you find something like that, It's the only tortoise on the island. Yeah, there you go. actually see me like find her in the bushes um and yeah it was big you're crying i was pretty happy Leave me alone. breeding facility which is where lonesome george was kept that other famous tortoise she put on

1:08:00 reptiles breed until they die so um so we should be good. And even more interesting than that is tortoises can retain viable sperm. So she might already have fertilized eggs inside of her from 10 years ago yeah they can sperm can live in basically we just moved her from one island to another where there's less stress and now if they So it was really cool.

1:10:00 correctly and they go you know you go through everything they look they go through your boots call them all turtles you got a shell shell. Fuck's the problem. Yeah. Hugely. Extinct means vanished, like no longer in existence. I mean, I take off for Africa, I think, January 4th, January 5th, And, you know, it's like it's a very gray area of are these animals still there or not?

1:12:51 Why do they like their liver so much? Yeah. to let this other wolf pack know that a new wolf pack had moved into the area. And on camera. And this fucking wolf is baring its teeth just inches from him. No. he was big, he was hairy. Like, every part of him seemed like a human bear. I'm wondering if this got the liver yeah tell me tell me that guy doesn't express wolf characteristics

1:16:31 It's nuts The thing's kissing him And you can go in and interact with them. I'd like to go. I'll be behind the camera. they found i think in wyoming where they just wiped out a bunch like they'll just go ham and It's not like they're going to eat 30 different chickens, in north america for humans for humans it's like two or three it's arrow left and they're surrounded by wolves but they had killed enough so you know wolves they do

1:19:50 And it just happened to be Yeah Yeah yeah It's fucking crazy. that are considered dangerous where he's living in this little tiny shack that's right next to a lake, See if you can pull that up That he killed He shot two wolves He only carries a four-arrow quiver. They were just elk hunting. to them, like within 100 yards a rifle out and just started shooting them.

1:22:30 I mean, he's a really wise man. right this is actually bigger than that and they had a a moose down so they had this moose down Nothing but meat and fat. So he, You know, and they gather salmon for their dogs with one of those salmon wheels, What? What's his motivation? He doesn't have a toilet. Right. Yeah. A hot shower after a week in the woods. And then, you know, the whole trip was done on the Missouri breaks.

1:26:39 And, you know, we had all our cargo and all our shit in there and we're rowing For sure. You're in jungles. and i don't know enough about bee ecology but it was like bee season and i mean you you should see Well, no, it's worse than that because we were only at the station You know, we, like, they die. Yeah, so we, Yeah? hawk it's a parasitic wasp right so it comes out it hunts for tarantulas it lays its eggs i believe in the abdomen of

1:30:13 You don't know about this? Chomp, chomp, chomp. But the honeybees figured out a strategy to kill the hornets and what they do is Yeah. And they just swarm in and they just, look at them. Right. And he's trying to get away, but he can't fly away. of the size comparison. There's We've been on a praying mantis kick lately, been watching them kill rats and everything.

1:33:22 They're so strong for their size. what is this one got a snake snakes this is lots of them it's like a highlight video oh my god That snake is like two feet long. exoskeleton. That was a great movie, right? like indiscriminately perfect hunters big big you know predatory insects is there a history of africa where the river branched off and left them on an island with only buffalo i we discussed

1:36:30 pack has these enormous super lions and then there's another pack of regular size lions really And they put on, I mean, they literally are twice the size of a normal female lion. You should do it. you can actually see it in taking place it's it's evolution in action basically there's there's a Yeah, exactly. I mean, you obviously are now. you know, so you're kind of stuck in camp.

1:39:40 do you know about the bees in nepal that makeic honey? I do. Yeah, I do. That's wild. And how they harvest that honey? honey out of that is making it psychedelic. If you can get honey other places, but this honey makes you trip, I wonder what the actual psychoactive substance in the honey is. It's worth it, man. Oh, you can buy it? Oh, rhododendrons.

1:41:44 The red honey is prized for its purported medicinal value and intoxicating qualities See if we can buy mad honey. They come out frothing at the mouth. I'll take a chance. Oh, Madhoney.net. There you go. It's up there on the top right. Here we go. Absolutely. Yeah. is it make you trip and how long does it last and also do you have to eat the entire jar of

1:44:32 I'm going to get some of that honey, dude. everything they can out of a fish yeah and if you catch a sturgeon man the whole village is eating You know, like the Loch Ness monster. sharks stuck in the great lakes yes Yes, I'd heard about that. They go through osmoregulation. like yeah they're just ready all the time like they're they're bullish and you know their shoulders

1:47:15 Oh, and the shark swims all the way up there, Ah, when was the last known sighting of one? What, was he surfing? No, he was in Iowa. I mean, all those rivers are connected. salmon are flying through the air trying to make it up the it's just but it's so weird like what a that you know we can destroy that so quickly oh Oh, yeah. We put one dam in and that ruins that whole ecosystem for that river and the bears and the salmon and the spawning.

1:49:53 And you can actually see the salmon making their way through and up the river. And they just died. And that supports, you know, like that food source that protein supports is like that is a like here it is right here holy crap that eagle's like fuck help bro help help like a lion that that eagle might not make it anyway look at him right he's fucked he's on the

1:52:30 dude, they're from another planet. that exists on planet earth yeah right yeah is that how we got this video the octopus dreaming look at the colors in this thing you know it, there are people that actually believe they are from out of space. Like, look, I believe in life outside of Earth, but I don't necessarily think that octopus Well, there's thoughts about that with a lot of different life forms like spores.

1:55:09 on the space station i think they're gonna test it for 30 days and see if it's viable really some Look at what the octopus eggs look like Look at that. Look how they drop off. You know what I mean? It's like we're getting more and more contrast yeah the one zero contrast so when you look at it like this octopus like trying to cuttlefish oh never mind i thought there was a cuttlefish on them yeah just what a strange ability that these uh animals have unbelievable figured out i mean

1:58:28 Oh, that's cool. So squid are... Whoa! do you remember when the tsunami hit thailand and then there was all these animals that they weirdness oh yeah there's A hundred foot giant squid with the crazy crab legs. No. I'm learning a lot today i like this uh crazy alien looking squid what's up i found the thing those things that dangle from it what do you what'd you call those things tentacles legs

2:02:16 at that like look at that thing it's crazy i mean if you saw that underwater you would shit your Yeah, they said the thing was enormous, Look at how fucking, just how weird it looked. Okay, the length is up to 15 to 20 times the mantle. Giant squids were thought to be bullshit until, like, fairly recently, right? That's a giant squid? Okay, that's what I'm thinking about.

2:04:37 it's a lot of calamari calamari is good look at that fucker so weird so the the large pacific octopus how big giant giant pacific they used to think that that was all total horseshit Hi mate, it's the Kraken trying to get us. Yeah, that's... So around the same time period, so to speak, and I'm not one of these people, down, you think about the fact that large birds had a hard time being fossilized because their

2:07:56 big enough to fly around and eat people they didn't have bones that could fossilize so it'd I think so. Or are they just people are full of shit? actually dragons i i i mean we know there were large flying lizards during the times of dinosaurs Why is that? Oh, my God. something like that i don't think they were that big that all it is yeah like an eagle is really

2:10:49 Yeah. Right. had to have been enormous yeah flying knives yeah well you've seen the videos that the um the mongols use where they uh uh back that's their bird for however long the bird lives or i don't really know the whole process And someone was the first. That's right. And now it was, like, up until really recently, I think the water subsided, but it was up under, like, four feet of water in the lobby.

2:13:52 keep these pigeons on check because the pigeons see the hawk and be like fuck this and they just Oh, these are falcons. Here's one with a lot of them on there. It does look like that. I know what you're talking about, yeah. There's a couple different primates that have basically had pets. Yeah, which is what we think happened with humans and wolves right which sort of fostered this relationship with

2:16:13 their scrotum enlarges and engorges with blood when they smell cat urine. Right. toxoplasmosis gandhi apparently changes human behavior and it makes people more reckless the parasite gets in people it makes people more aggressive it makes uh it it makes them more In some countries, the rate of infection is crazy. And is it cat owners? changes in rodent hosts. hosts. Nothing to the cat.

2:19:19 tricking a rat to try to go near a cat. Sure. You said that earlier, too. the baboons the alpha baboons that sapolsky worked with were uh eating this poison it is that they, you know, we thought this was just how baboons existed and behaved and and then the ones that remained from all the human food. someone's feeding them because that human trash is cut up cooked corn that corn looks really

2:22:12 He's got a lot of corn there, though. Baboons are terrible. Try to get it back, they'll kick your ass. they're like as they're like a step backwards from human beings you look at how they behave diverged from that well that's what's interesting to me is how some animals their progress or their Yep. those are the ones that bred i mean it's it's so interesting to see how this stuff sort of plays

2:24:59 The world, the living world is so fascinating. Yeah. Yeah. good analogy i'm going to use that the next time that someone asks me to explain that because that's genius it's this is a hammer it really it's like they So, during World War II, when the Japanese were holding Ramri Island in Burma, Myanmar, All the crocodiles were particularly hungry because of that.

2:27:43 we got to the village and he had just been pulled out from this croc attack his arm was broken in like 25 places he was torn up he had so we were stopping the bleeding and bandaging him up. During the rat and marine massacre. And while he was there, a woman who was washing clothes got killed by a crocodile while he was in the village. Crocodiles will hunt human beings.

2:30:00 Well, they're not really after you. Sharks aren't after people. And they were targeting people. It's the opposite of fast food. sundar bands in india yes that's a crazy place crazy i i did a bit about that in my act as well That's insane. Tigers are crazy. It's like huge tall tufts of grass. are going to be the wave of the future right using technology to come up with biocontrols like a wolf growl to other wolves

2:32:58 Yeah. labrea tar pits or something like we have those things right now we have a lot of them and we can save them and we have the we could have seen a grizzly bear. They killed all those fuckers. traveling all the way down into the Sierra Madres of Mexico, half a dozen mexican grizzly bears couldn't it be getting jaguars though could be but they're

2:35:16 I need to see this. Like, oh, wow. That's probably World Fair time. i don't know wow 1899 this says but take a look at when the last one was killed and half a million acres in mexico is like yeah i've got a bear killing my cows it's like sure you do That was when he was getting chased by one, but I believe that believe that was in either idaho or wyoming places

2:38:00 yeah did i uh did i show you that that lion that we were extracting dna from follow the elephant migrations north and then back south, but generally they hung out in South Africa. you know trot after it on foot looking for it and we get up to it we're like oh he's down okay time to do our workup and i start walking up to it to check it as you do when

2:40:05 I mean, I don't know lion weights or points or any of the hunting stats. This is the tortoise, actually. couldn't quite figure out what it was we drew blood we took hair clippings um and the latest is you know it's not again i'm not a on foot it was pretty terrifying so are you talking about something that's twice the size We'll get you to airdrop it to Jamie.

2:42:22 You might not put it on Instagram? So much wildlife. And I've tested it in the field. So it's a screen that keeps animals from recognizing your magnetic signal. Yes. So that's when he's tranked? Oh my god, dude Yeah, we're putting a collar on him the african lion significantly yeah yeah significantly crazy yeah and that was not amazing stew and i was like joe's the only person i know would appreciate this as much as i do

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