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Joe Rogan Experience #1410 — Ash Dykes Transcript

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0:00 Do you think a salt lamp's real? Do you think that thing does anything? big one do it it's very uh very flashy do you think that does anything though i don't know and didn't tell us there we go yeah yeah what is this uh thing that you brought i thought if i'm you been to wells before no no no how badass is it should i go yeah beautiful it is a good place

2:18 So it's 4,000 miles. But the other thing I thought is this kind of validates a lot of the ideas You're trying to keep your family alive. It takes you right back and it's like, whoa, whoa. I was always preparing to go from the traditional source, It's slightly longer than the traditional source. If you're going to walk that distance, you've got to do it the proper way.

5:06 He's the real one. You were close, but you didn't quite make it. I crossed into the East China Sea before the finish but at that point it's almost I had I didn't feel anything. I've always been a big believer in that. how much food you're going to need where are you going to meet neat pit stops were you going to be as you're trekking through a forest yeah and then try to get food that's it and we're always

8:08 And each ration pack was around 800 kilocalories. That's it. Yeah, exactly. seems ridiculous yeah and i think yeah no you you're coming across towns, communities. Yes, I was out of the wild. and i the translation i could speak chinese a little bit i was just gonna ask i could get by shelter. Yeah. Fuck, man. Especially Yeah Storm proof It's amazing how light They can get those Damn things to now It was great It was incredible We needed it A tent. So we had this really lightweight sort of Kailas tent. Just get it up storm proof.

11:50 that's because the double layer was just so small and so light yeah and it was a case of yeah you Yeah, we've got the pad, like the waterproof pad on the ground from the tent. It's really small, really tight, really lightweight as well. The ground just sucks all the body heat away. You do get used to it. And we were carrying 30. So. Big time. I was eating with the locals and I was taking as much calories down as i possibly could whilst i was trekking did you pick like the cut the type

15:17 you started like here ready all right bye ash bye it was see you in the air oh man yeah it was four members day number one you can't even run you got no air yeah what how help us would you feel At 15,000 feet Oh they should scare you the most Oh my god Really? So I bought another one in Yushu. They tear your legs apart. understand we just sort of waved oh thank you bye big smile off we go say it was me and my friend

18:08 oh, yeah, all the best, thanks, see ya. in the same proximity, same distance away. Oh, my God. A tent burrito. So it was two days that they were following us. And they would start showing me photos, And they were trying to say that they're coming off the mountains because it's too cold. i think everybody that lives in a big city has basically kind of forgotten that yeah yeah but

20:12 And they take, like you said, caribou. down the back of a moose and just yeah altercation between out of here not here they killed them all in california everything that they had yeah that was here I wasn't here. So they're further north now, are they? So what's the Rockies? What are your precautions? And obviously the bear's shocked, it's scared, and it just attacks.

23:10 felt tent like a yurt he was living in a concrete hut and he had a courtyard with a fence the fence want to walk for that long yeah bear country yeah well that's that's it that's how many people are horse is the last one standing whilst my my crew my my guides are suffering with altitude sickness it'd be so the first two guides that i had got altitude sickness as well as the film crew. I came off the mountains.

25:44 Oh. it was the horse and we eventually, which drops to about minus 30, minus 40 degrees Celsius, Right, okay. What does it say there, Jamie? Got you. Like, you're never the same thing. Yeah. What the fuck is going on here? Yeah, 104 Fahrenheit. Yeah, it's 104? 104. 104. Yeah, 104 finite. Are you hoping to find wood? up with gasoline but you can also use vodka, and you can run off the vapors.

29:04 You're really just trying to stay alive out there in the wilderness. it like blocks the the small hole that sparks the sparks the flame um and you don't want that previous adventures that i had done they had a um they had hope they held hope they had faith in are you using a gps and if so do you have uh solar panels that you're using to gather electricity

31:31 a week and a half of charging depending how i use it really charging so it's really really useful to charge up the power bank. So what I did is I took- Does it work at all when it's cloudy? yeah it's far better than it used to be yeah i was shocked to see it all over china as well actually In-reach, okay. They stole my solar panel. And at one point, they would have slid my solar panel under my tent,

34:38 and I've just scared him off, not realising. And the trailer weighed about 120 kilograms of everything that i had in it which is about 260 pounds uh and so yeah i with that journey i made sure how are you moving the trailer When I went through the motions of getting these different organizations on board, and threaten to get rid of us and deport us and whatnot.

36:40 all of the tracked information I needed for Guinness World Record. media, you know follow area really sensitive and it was just and then we found that the locals would call the police as well. westerner do do they report it will there be in trouble if they don't report it so they did so it I'd say. Did you anticipate How many things did you figure could go wrong that didn't?

39:50 video of i don't know if the girl's from china or from japan it's turned out to be fake but she's They do. She looked back at her camera. And then as she's going down the hill and her snowboard, fuck it looks pretty goddamn realistic pretty damn good doesn't it that would be hard to do like a motorbike. It almost gets them. That is fucking horrific.

42:09 No way Right there is when you If a tiger wasn't a murderous, horrific predator that definitely eats people, you would look And terrifying at the same time. And if he touches you, all they need is one little ankle pick. big dude you got a video actually yeah it's a pen mastiffs as You've got a video, actually. Yep, yep. Tibetan Mastiffs as well. That's not as big as I was thinking, but that's pretty big.

44:01 And she's holding its foot up and it is literally Just a clean up system for the fucking woods So here you are And you're you're out there be teaching them how to belay off the cliff and we're like do they have instagram in china no so know jet lee yes he had a co-branded range between himself and adidas it was like a photoshoot gq in beijing who who really helped support set all of this up and we were translating and was there

47:28 Well, if you eat porridge every day, you're like, I don't really like porridge. A bunch of people join in with you and then they're gone. And the first part was more so, because the second half there was lots of people it was very interactive the first half for two weeks of a good friend of mine as well from the uk i could speak i can converse and And so I was,

49:16 about dropping your phone Especially with like the,. With Wi-Fi? So I was very much on the system. You've got to open it up on the VPN, open up the Google, translate it. what to say. off so they knew what i had with me and it was with that satellite that i was able to send to that's interesting there's a lot of chinese travelers as well so they go to these foreign

52:08 or different things in their phones? Yeah, that's it. with that phone yeah they've blocked them from google though this is where it gets really and extract information because they can do that with their Huawei devices. delivery costs pennies as it is one minute yeah so sometimes you'll call i'm gonna be a minute they're just so sufficient. say that because he joined me on Mission Yangtze.

54:49 like to be chinese yeah yeah not not just in the us uk as well i think i think most countries yeah didn't know about this so i i you know i'm to to blame as well before i went to china i thought So I will be going back. okay, now what? doing lectures. I've been out there four times already.apore uh myanmar and back out to china doing lectures 15 fish and chip shop, $4 an hour,

57:19 got rid of my little jalopy of a car, When I say low-budget, it's like buying a bicycle for $10, it the bikes no 17 times until i was with my friend matt norman you know both i named mine And they would fix it. dogs hit by mopeds dodged by lorries so that was the first away from home adventure i'd say that But after that, we just found my niche, found my passion,

59:53 and this group living out there bed or as a slanted shelter for the rain rainwater to run off it was amazing we just And he jumped down. got myself a little bike with my friend again and we just carried on cycled so you think your boss little nudges and i've had a lot of those little nudges along the way. Madagascar. because the money was so low. I come from a boxing background,

1:03:01 I had the boxing stance, The next day I had to cancel work. They're either pointing at you or they're pointing at your opponent. and um so yeah it was a little bit on my my heart i was just like right i've done my training Yeah. It was good. Mongolia. something that'll take me to a country So it was the first to walk solo and unsupported across Mongolia's length.

1:06:12 So here you are pulling this thing with a four-part harness. and a further three weeks up through the Mongolian steppe. What? a whipping effect. sandstorm in Iraq it's it's some of the people in the distance yeah you see it And as soon as it hits the wind, So it was more like this without the wall that you can see and the distance coming towards you like that video.

1:08:31 yeah so that looks more like a dust dust storm where it's um so kind of similar but the sand following if you're off the track it could be hundreds of miles the track is where there's a you like it was at the point i just continued to rest under my shells it was 40 45 degrees celsius Or I knew that there was a community which 100% had water. breaking my goals down i couldn't visualize the three or four days of course but what i could

1:11:32 It was off the radars. So you probably had severe dehydration. wouldn't have made it five or six huts pulling a sled. And with this one, it was a video because I was trying to show how difficult it was to pull the trailer through the sand. a fucking sled your your legs must be made out of steel it was painful it was painful you probably No. but the mindset, I was trying to stay focused.

1:13:52 a local sledgehammer, worked on like a bar, mongolia so again you know that's saying um by putting yourself in more uncomfortable scenarios over a over a stone um you're literally your hips are being pulled left and right so you need to be crucial because pulling the trailer if you come over a over a stone um you're literally and still implemented that into the into the training regime i'm just i love it but body movement it fascinates me i love the training

1:16:18 down just from overexertion amazing what the human body's capable of in general isn't it yeah and i I was slightly worried. and I was only 24, I guess then, 23. burning insane amount of calories yeah how many calories do you need a day just isn't it like but everybody's varies. Oh, that's nice. rocked up 45 minutes inside, sipping on their chai, their tea, eating whatever they gave me.

1:18:53 He looks over to his wife or his girlfriend and he looks back to me, looks back at his wife When you say hand gestures, Was she hot? We were all exchanging looks. Yeah. those people are probably freaks. border which is like mountain you've got the outside mountains almost separate so this was it Ah, okay. It described who I was, what I was doing, why I'm here.

1:21:56 that's amazing yeah and that's all i've ever done you know i just it's a human right i love it i they love if you can give their child, like, paper, pens, Yeah, I had cash with me. give me a bottle to take away with with tea inside so i try again trying to offer you came and you're in their harsh environment. I would say. absolutely amazing no, a little a little bit different madagascar was a beautiful country but down south it's very

1:25:20 that had We've got the suffering with the plague here. anyway it was going in one way out of the other and i didn't have the full 80 percent um protecting And it got to a point where days went by that I was like, this isn't dehydration. But at that time, I had no idea, right? You've got the deadliest, and it usually kills you within 24 hours. are you taking more of it

1:27:27 How much are you allowed to take of it? Do you remember? It says 80%. I think a stronger strain They build wells Yeah that was it man That's what they said contracted it, And it was 1,600 miles, what's edible, what isn't edible, how to build rafts, et cetera. but we were losing weight. Horrible. So I had a local guide, Max, who was nails proper Bushman.

1:31:34 coconuts mangoes oh we got excited oh so you see wild mango trees yeah yeah we just scramble on up Making this little campfire. Are you sure? There's a foe of me and Max trying to find our way. But you can be disciplined. I get back home, I switch the kettle on, I can take a shower, I can do whatever. could be worse decade now I wanted to see a photo

1:34:06 There's trekking the Himalayas, which was a scary one The Pakistan army roamed the border of Indianian himalayas and pakistan himalayas he said you go on your knees if you come I thought that was I should know this it was crazy that's so crazy you got like little No, we were only stuck to the hammock shots because we were on a bicycle. i did spiders spiders i was so when you're hacking through the jungle, you've got the jungle canopy. And the leeches, believe it or not, they go as a spider bite.

1:36:21 So you're just getting scratched everywhere. It looks like you got lit up. So you have to bring a chicken. So you have to feed the chicken? Oh my God. Zipped in. And you've got to leave him on top of that mountain. Like, I do, but I don't know if it's on my Instagram. Man, sometimes he'd walk barefoot. No, so we have to set him free on top of it. No barbecue sauce either, you know.

1:39:36 yeah yeah what do they think and they've got some they got some mad stories as well so max my photographer, yeah, malagasy anyway he was freaked out we were all three still cursed i have no i don't remember Suffered with a night terror, maybe? next to me she's like you think the witches yeah you know they've they've rocked the crocodiles have promised that they won't eat the locals if

1:42:14 Even a raft. Crocodiles, they target people. They do. There's always three ways to the other side. Never knew what I was in. You must have been shitting your pants just looking down at that water. Crocodiles, they target people. guy in front of them got attacked by a crocodile and the guy watched the crocodile come up grab Get to shore, get the heck out of there.

1:43:56 david attenborough and madagascar with the crocodiles where they're worshiping this guy's I mean, they want to preserve energy. that goddamn thing looks. But they also believe in witches too. they're not allowed to do and that at least gives them this idea that carrying that chicken around it gets hot in Madagascar underneath the tree. you know and that's why

1:46:20 and preserve It gets so cold out there now that the livestock struggle to survive, They burn what they can. maybe some hard structures looks like there's a few hard roofs there yeah yeah they'll be different hurts they'll just be most of them are many are reluctant to leave behind their unique millennia-old way of living. here so in the camp it's stop that please go back up and make that larger again what is that uh

1:49:10 You know, you're out in Madagascar trekking, it's wilderness. expand national parks who were helping to educate the locals supply different means of work seen so many things that most people haven't seen just haven't been to that place and knowing that Yeah, and you know once you've seen it, but probably about three million are And the people that do stay, the older people,

1:51:43 Mongolia actually I went over eight days without seeing a single person. Wolves. Hadn't seen a human in days. headphones and whatnot he was like i'm not going to tell you you know you'll get out there and if because when you're at the point of silence you can finally hear your own body ticking over nothing, it's my body, it's ticking over. plus you have all the other stuff yeah that's why it mounted really i think the trailer on its own

1:55:00 Effectively, I went through the water So on maximum load, yeah, 120 kilograms. ten dollars cycle up to mongolia cycle across mongolia and walk back the other way or cycle they plan to go there next, or they've come from Cambodia, Vietnam, it wasn't for any record it was just for the fascination that's when i realized i couldn't They can sometimes be a problem, yeah.

1:57:29 as we know him yeah you know um but yeah they can they could be big an issue and he just sent this The Mongols killed everybody. Yeah, they would use that to stay alive. As many as, they don't know the real number. yeah he fucked so much she left so much DNA out there five you simple crazy it was from the yeah and it was I was shocked to see Yeah. Yeah.

2:00:07 Yeah. Whoa. Yeah. It was... I don't remember He just ruined the whole thing. Where's Chino Hills? Maybe. I think it's an Indian. the Nazis just decided to look cool There's a few of these people that throughout history, who came to deliver me the bottle of tea. Oh, you'd be terrified wouldn't you and If you're around privileged people that are like really kind

2:04:49 time yeah they'd live off the land they would fish and they would they'd live in tents and you know When he was sparring with Conor McGregor, obviously meaning Conor's raining on him. You can't appreciate the sun if you never stood in the rain. Oh, yeah, yeah, he is. I do not know, my friend. He's a warrior. isn't it left hand's a piss so explosive he tends to catch guys with a lot of explosive punches

2:06:48 You know Cowboy I think is 36 Connor has less where he can really Connor always talks And it's also an interesting fight It's always good to know. What's required is a great matchup, and this is a great matchup. it might be out in the first round well not just that I don't think he's bulked up as much I know Donald is. He's well-exposed to that. Cause I think it's terrible for your kidneys.

2:10:10 That's it. And that's after the fight, can they just go straight back to like and your body doesn't know what the fuck to do. Yeah, because it thinks you're going to do it again. Yeah, because it thinks you're going to just take the punishment. Oh, yeah. going to walk across the whole world like if i said that to you no no uh i'm you know the business

2:12:39 352 days is ridiculous. And do it with a good, They used to be over here. Who World Wildlife Fund won I thought Federation potentially just because the sheer size of them you know what excites you when you start thinking about your options for potential future trips? Talk to my friend Justin. but he was saying that after he worked out, They don't know how to help him.

2:15:28 And he's such a nice guy I should get the doctor In describing his own Life threatening illness He's trying to promote point. What's going on with you, man? I'm like, tell us what's happening. He's like, even in describing his own life-threatening illness, I don't use that word wonderful that often, but with him, I do. he was all this work fight for the Forgotten Foundation, starts his fighting

2:16:47 The last one. They've got to figure out what it is. yeah we played that there's lots of parasites you've just put me off maybe we'll just stick to a two-week holiday Yeah, but that picture I don't think is real. Can you just make the... shot at an airport. Yeah. It's not like a skull is not skull like a gorilla yeah yeah it's not like Yeah, easy. And it's about six feet tall upper left hand

2:21:12 They got video of one of them time it was just legend but now they have actual video of them they have photographed they have I mean, the Congo's so big. I think it was like from the 90s. smushed in there. All sorts. With the way that you're describing it, Is that real? football yeah almost like a yeah rugby ball football yeah um in in size oh in thickness

2:24:55 no this has gone extinct there's that many of them to blame oh goddamn pop-ups get us every time wow immense that's huge though isn't it yeah but did There's one that shows – look at the size of that thing. trying to scare you with all the shit you've seen your whole life these were enormous birds there's It's a far left chain. and people that believe in witchcraft

2:26:52 So these terror birds I'm going to guess Okay, so no people. are i guess the same the same era so it looks like giant sloth time period that north american bear time period look how small the horses are holy shit And it's fucking crazy. I don't know if it goes into the details. Yeah, sapient. Oh, man. in the neighborhood of six feet tall this thing is their entire height plus a couple of feet

2:29:57 You're exaggerating. came first we were just after scraps weren't we leftovers from lions do you feel when you're doing Map and compass? the Mongolia one was. A lot of people say, well, it's hot during the day You need to be able to see in the distance They try to say, no, I want to go that way. settlement um whereas the jungle harsh environment that you know um spiders wise snake wise etc but

2:33:42 to join um again presenting in schools getting the kids Well, listen, man, you've got an infectious sort of way of talking about this just asking people for food like it's kind of nuts yeah yeah yeah that's it I and if I can do it, you can do it type of message. you have to be a special person don't the right way And like I said, your story is very, very inspirational, man.

2:36:19 Yeah, on the Instagram, it's just ash underscore dykes. Thank you, sir.