Joe Rogan Experience #1414 — Mike Baker Transcript

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0:00 Hello, Mike Baker. What's going on, man? Mike said, no, World War III. But it was such a strange development that I think it did. Well, you know what? You go back to 2008, there was an operation to take out a guy named Mugnia, who himself was also a But it goes back to the beginning of that. had a series of bombings and started bombing everything from Shiite mosques to UN facilities, Jordanian embassy, a variety of targets,

4:43 He doesn't want a strong Iraq. Yeah, it's the Sunnis. Whether it was dealing with Hezbollah or the Palestinian Islamic Jihad or whomever, he – again, I keep going back to the same thing. to that understand who he was and what was going on there were fucking fuming they were like what But I look at it the same way. So I don't understand anybody who doesn't just say, yeah, and I think the left had

8:50 is great. And if his decisions we don't have civil conversations anymore, but the idea that we can look at and separate Didn't like his policies. And I just didn't know that Trump could make the call. he could be the guy that goes take him out like when when with the president. I have But he does have that authority. I admit, because it wasn't, again,

11:05 is iran is you know the regime is brutal and and awful they're not crazy and the one thing they And they don't understand it. They're done. I think we're on the right track with Iranan i think we're going to see a different The Ayatollah's got a, I don't know what he called it, saving face or not. commercial passenger jet uh went down yeah um and that was them right oh that was that was definitely

14:16 and it's never going to be a zero-risk game. So if the Iranians had done this, as tragic as it is, and come out and said, oh my God, we did this, okay. It would have been horrific, Oh, Jesus Christ. And the plane stays up in the air for a period of time just because it's not devastated. They mistook it for either an incoming missile or a hostile aircraft coming in for a bombing run

16:27 And who knows where it's going to go. Now, were you concerned at all – and this is one of the things when you say that we could go in there and level them in a day. I mean, look, so what are we dealing with in that immediate area? Nobody wants it. We're going to advise you. I think we've averted that. This wasn't just like something that just they thought of after an American contractor

20:06 Like who's over there? They've got a source. I mean maybe you get signals intelligence because you're picking up communications. I mean that's why this whole nuclear weapons program with Iran has always been so difficult. And, you know, I know that people, it's fashionable nowadays to say, well, the Trump But that was so crazy, like, to represent the 52 people that were kidnapped in the fucking Carter administration.

23:22 Yeah, well, you know what? That's where I say, look, I understand why people go, oh, my God. He, I think, I don't know why I know, but he firmly believes, I think, They're tired of these people that sound like politicians. That's that guy. No, I think the consistency, I think you're right. So they wanted something different. Now they've had it. Are they going to get to this point in November and get down to November of the election, and people are just exhausted by it. So they wanted something different.

25:27 I really, overwhelming candidate, just want to be president i feel like it's a self-aggrandizement thing they just want to be I mean, it's got to be something. and go against stir it up with him for a primary yeah it's yeah who yeah so there's no one that Say he wins again in 2020. I mean, I would like to think so. yeah don't they all have ranches and you lay low like Cheney he's got a ranch he's administration has got to have a ranch. You get a ranch somewhere and you lay low.

28:13 Man. Shouldn't have done that. His friend was like, I'm sorry I got my face in the way, sir. I shouldn't have done that. But he really wanted one. things like that, you know, that are plastic for the most part and everything. But it took him almost no time at all, right, in terms of practice to develop. again you can't but the problem is they can't separate that right that's what i'm saying yeah

31:22 The more he makes it easier for these big The unemployment rate is almost negligible. There's something to that, though, the solid people. Yeah, that would be great. And again, I don't see unless there's something that sends it heading south. Yeah. It makes me sound clever. I don't watch them. Sorry It's a term of endearment That's a boat with a lot of holes in it

34:18 And you say what are you doing? And talking to him in person, in real life, Well, that's all it is. It's not they go through. I agree with you. I like I don't see a problem there. And so he's denied it. And so I think they're not even trying now to hide the fact that they want to marginalize Sanders. Yeah. He considers himself a baller. original disney peter pan so we turned it on and i'd forgotten what that movie was like in terms

38:01 Yeah, a 10-year-old says it. Well, particularly about Native Americans. He was a young boy when Custer was killed and he told the story of life on the plains Black Elk Speaks. Okay. I've listened to on tape. fascinating when was it written it's written in 1930s okay it's called what black elk black elk It's crazy to think that it happened just a short time ago.

39:59 I mean, it's a difficult environment, right, in which to say, okay, we're going to have some sort of federal system. It's just you go and – and look, I'd spent most of my adult life overseas, right, And the reservation systems, not all of them, of course. I had seen movies and I had read books and I had kind of understood, but I didn't really, really get into it until I started reading these books.

42:01 And we came along and they're like, what the fuck? somehow where they were under the horse's neck and they were protected and they were shooting They didn't use like these big horses that the Americans used. So I'll pick up this book because it's an amazing history, and you're right, it's not That dude. Came from nothing. They picked out some of the individuals you would imagine, right?

44:38 They tried to provide a perspective from the Native American Indians' point of view. the only thing that really you know there's natural resources that can help them but really There's the Native American Indian Museum in D.C. that opened several years back. But, what else? And so it's a trade pact, right? There's been this trade battle, obviously.

47:08 China of U.S. goods. Yeah. Congress is trying to push through something that's going to make it even more difficult for U.S. companies to do business with them overseas. At the same time, you know what? they were doing because we felt like in washington i think sometimes dc is like oh you can't do two not two separate entities. of research and development. We're just going to hoover up everything we can from not just the US,

50:35 It's good that we're telling them. And we just have to be realistic, right? We're not going to change their behavior in a major way. So what Huawei's done is they've essentially relegated to these weird chinese versions of a lot of the popular applications Huawei's cranking these fucking bad boys out every couple of months. Sort of similar to the iphone

53:34 I'm actually, you know, I got a contract with Huawei, the world they offer developer 26 million dollars to build apps for his flagship phones after being banned from using google's We want some money. Have you seen his new, is it his new wife now or just his girlfriend? of the UFC. The owner of the UFC divorced for sure you're getting a billion yeah he's got 150 he can give you a billion just to

55:48 Someone should Photoshop dollar bills on her glasses. Women today at 50... She's barely alive. pictures of her in her underwear you know why Yeah. And she's 54? She's 54, and she knows the fucking sand is thin on that hourglass. Who was she with? Like, if you saw her, give me another one of those, Jamie. It's different these days. But look at that one in the middle.

57:38 She's still hot. putting in the work. London Coliseum. They have fake mustaches, though, right? A couple of commandos. Whoa. You couldn't do that before. Like Jack Nicholson. You know what it is? 300 million plus people in this country that's probably uh of dating age let's just let's just would be like he's not that bad and then one million would be like i'd fuck him right now

1:00:49 He blew To fuck that Doesn't give a fuck That was back when a collar meant something. That's what women would say. A guy who's hot, good luck. man? Now it would have been Right Yeah But ultimately, if the Chinese authorities knock on their door and say, we would like access to your database because we want to hoover up all the information about every U.S. military person that's stationed wherever or – they're going to do it.

1:03:10 So it's not happening. Look at this. They're 12. TikTok dances. Is it just another version of- I drive Is they're talking I'm not interested You do think I should jump on board. I mean, OnePlus sponsors a lot of things. That's when we're really fucked. sort of their attention span, right, and their ability to – and you can see it impacting it. but culturally, no one's pulling back from this stuff.

1:06:30 have any restrictions on their phones my daughter has like a time limit on her phone she's one hour and everybody at the table staring at their phone yeah? I got on the car rental bus today, and I dropped my bag on the thing, and I stood there, and I looked down at the bus, and everybody was staring at their phone. Never mind. If you see anything suspicious, call this number.

1:07:50 Have you seen this latest dispute between Apple and the government? I don't know which phone they were asking for. not assisting they're not helping us get into this government had to go to as it turns out to What do they want that apple's not willing to just for the good guys. Backdoors can they looking for that they won't let these guys find it's one thing that like back doors but i'm

1:11:10 Right, but you can also turn that off. look, we're not going to break the terms of our contract with all the people that have iPhones Obviously, it benefits the criminals. And what happens? And some of these companies sell only to the government and to whoever is DEA or – Yeah, Apple can. I think they just want to hold the line and say absolutely not because I think they're looking at this from, again, from almost a pure commercial perspective.

1:14:34 No. And we haven't. I just find it interesting. We're back having that same argument that we had a few years ago. And I think, like I said, I'm not sure why Barr is pushing this argument necessarily the way he is. I mean, like what's going on with China and Huawei? There's another person? It's watching you. Yeah. Are you a believer in Bitcoin now? And he's loved by the Bitcoin. Everything is Bitcoin with him.

1:18:15 To be fair, I haven't taken the time to understand it. Yeah. I don't understand. I don't understand That's the way I feel about it. I think it's kind of tacky. Oh, Greek key thing. Yeah. people that I know, right? And I know I'm going to get, cardigan. And my I'm thinking A Matthew McConaughey vibe to it A picture of Matthew McConaughey in a cardigan.

1:21:28 I'm going to a party. I mean, this is my second go around, and I've learned that I'm not as smart as I used to be. That fucking guy has never looked the same again since he lost all that weight for that movie. Look at his face, man. to make you lose that much weight. Yeah. That's a computer rendering. Terrible for you. That's it. That was all That's a lot of fat right there.

1:23:44 What did you think? Like his portrayal, he's always been an amazing actor. Really? That's terrible. He kind of, you know, Yeah. Yeah, he's not the best actor. Does it look good? Oh, this is Jared Leto playing Morbius? And I guess the vampire, the bats helped him. When does this come out? In theaters this summer. Well, I'm sitting outside on the porch one day.

1:27:03 bats but you gotta you gotta hire a wildlife specialist yeah to get rid of the bats. You had to hire a wildlife specialist? Then you shoot them with your airsoft pistol. But then you stay alive forever And apparently the bat had rabies god health authorities confirmed that the patient was outdoors in broad daylight this is an incredibly unfortunate,

1:29:06 Yeah. I get it. Like, he got missed and- Right. Like, if-'s like a horror movie. Yeah. You know? It really is. Out of Final Destination, like he got missed and turns animals into these sick, Right. Yeah. Those are the people you've got to go to when the zombies come, right? 13%! We should tell them about the bat thing. I hope I don't get rabies. I'm flying.

1:31:30 Family truckster. I don't enjoy that kind of wasted time I'm driving just the drive for fucking five days straight across the country that that can eat a bag of Don't go in the summertime You know I think once you actually start doing it, you're like, what am I doing here? That's the whole, yeah. iPads. Oh, Jesus. somebody's going to send me They like it.

1:34:10 and it's yeah i i can see that i haven't spent most of my life in airports i get i get the idea You know, have you been out west? Well, it's interesting. Now, what is that whole wall thing going up? Oh, it's rising. I'm not used to be true. Yeah. Wasn't Reagan president back then? 88 was when I was 20. Look at you. And he's probably thinking we can make a lot more money.

1:36:56 they're going to continue to live in. She found out on Twitter They trademarked the Duke and Duchess of Sussex in a variety of different ways, apparently, Yeah. You think they hide that shit? She's probably worth about $6 million on her own for her acting career. He's going to go to Vancouver? People are annoying. Trump is out of office. shit is that? They give them

1:39:48 But imagine being a poor person and you find out that the queen, Yeah. That hooligan Joe Rogan and his terrible internet show would be illegal in my country. That's a significant amount. So I get it. Just what a goofy system. We're going to keep live part-time here, I don't know. Oh, Andrew. how odd is that guy very quickly. You're telling me that, yeah.

1:42:07 So let me ask you this right off the bat. I don't disappear down rabbit holes very often. There's just no way I could be convinced that he offed himself. So who knows what the guards are going to say. I mean, this guy has built a brick shithouse, and this is Epstein's cellmate. homicide? Is that what it says? Yeah. them at least 26 times yeah 26 times yeah i had no idea yeah jeff was a good guy yeah no i it. No, it's just one of those things.

1:44:46 because remember he had that deal and just went home again. The extent to which... I don't know. Yeah, that's what I was going to say. Yeah, you brought it around to Glenn Greenwald. That's literally what she was reading a book on, right? reason you know have you heard of anything like this before is this something that's been done It's just you and me talking.

1:47:21 They would whisper? That's how they did it? going on the outside world because they don't really have the internet when was the last time They'll say, oh, that's bullshit. where suddenly you've got video of them with an underage person, or whether they've provided developing a relationship with somebody some target overseas or whatever and i'm thinking

1:50:32 But instead, you know, maybe it's something different. And if they come back and say study or something you know and if they because there's a requirement to get something and you've got to accelerate the whole process. So, I mean, there had to be something valuable that they were getting from it. Yeah. but I don't think... I don't know where they stand in that trial.

1:53:22 murdered, and then Michael Baden goes on And, you know, he doesn't blow smoke up anybody's ass, right? What's happening here? You want some Kevin Spacey dude strangling. Oh, they have to. It's on the Science Channel, Discovery Science Channel. Ladies and gentlemen, Black Files Declassified. Do you think that you'll see manned hypersonic flight in your lifetime?

1:55:56 Every year, more than 90 billion dollars is allocated to clandestine government programs, Damn. When you say manned hypersonic, like they used to have the Concorde. So the Concorde was the speed of sound. about what that means for punching through the air and the heat and the and the and the the uh were able to deploy a defense system against this. The idea with hypersonic weapons is you have no idea.

1:58:46 What? It does exist. But it's pretty good. I mean, and particularly here in the U.S., but we're not there. intelligence, and just the dangers involved in these aircraft, these experimental aircraft I mean, a test pilot doesn't think the way that you are. It's not. And I talked to his wife and she said, yeah, it was interesting. She's been married to him forever.

2:03:02 Air Force test pilots have come out talking about encountering flying saucers or unidentified flying objects, particularly Commander Fravor who had that Tic Tac thing. who were both pilots and also were involved in the AATIP program for the U.S. government, for the military, The problem has always been that once you talk about that, then people immediately go, oh, aliens, huh?

2:05:24 It's like that old thing about how can we really be the only people out here, right? Or life forms out here. He's not a guy who's trying to make money. And there was no signs of any propulsion system. but I think we're presenting a lot of interesting information that, again, We never did any counter-alien things. would change the way everybody feels about everything.

2:07:37 The aliens. There's something going on out there. and I talked to several others. come down there what the fuck like no one's doing any technology it's the most fascinating thing to me at all the weird what-ifs and who could do this Well, and that's the problem always is – and people will point to that and say, you know, even the gun camera footage is, you know, look at this.

2:11:05 the biggest race with is it russia china china yeah because china russia would say it's theirs Did I say that? A lot of it. The top three have never really changed in decades, right? And so, yeah, it's our primary competitor. Anyway, for what that's worth. I mean, the hope is always that if we're about to nuke ourselves into another dimension, like a time capsule right because what they what they thought it would look like and yeah the robot

2:14:16 Stay with us, strange person from another land. Well, I like the best one is Alien. Yeah. In 1979, when that movie came out, that was a special movie. Yeah. situation where this ship has been overtaken by an alien i think that there's i think that there's No, I don't think we're it. I don't think so. to come by and look at people yeah although they probably look at us like we're a bunch of

2:18:06 because I think that would be boring as shit. if they're traveling these distances. See, it all comes... You should. Yeah, just put a piece of tape over it. you turn off location, they're still tracking Especially when you sign those terms of agreements, the terms of use agreements. Consumer Privacy Act allows anyone who resides in a state to access and obtain copies of the data that companies store on them

2:21:20 something like facebook has the insane amount of influence that they have on people and how through the use of their algorithms But people like outrage. It's not necessarily the algorithm. But a report came out from a group, Area 1, which is looking at hackers and looking at cybersecurity issues. Almost immediately when this report comes out saying a Russian intel operation hacked into Burisma recently,

2:24:20 So now what have you got? interesting stuff. It's like after we, after Soleimani was smoked, almost immediately after, 10 years ago, they probably wouldn't have been able to orchestrate sort of that sort said, which happens. thousands of social media accounts that they have, and they can get people thinking in Years and years ago, decades ago, they were buying off journalists to write favorable

2:27:35 You're trying to create some chaos. but as a population, we're not very sophisticated. It's not the idea that they're going in there to voting machines It's all going to be internet-based voting, reporting for the caucuses in Iowa. That's our communication system from now on. Tell people again when your show – well, you don't have an air date. At But I'm

2:30:21 Alright man