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0:00 One, two, three, two, one, boom, and we're live. Ah, what's the difference? Thanks, Jim. Shout out to Black Rifle Coffee There's a chance he's gonna be there And you can see it, and it's rad to see. Actually, I went to your show. That's a good fucking casino. in the back bar of the comedy so i'm like damn we got to remember all this cool shit we talked about

2:37 it's out right now that's cleared hot and he was saying that um they were flying towards fires It's, you know, shoulder-fired, and you just point and aim. And so that was a thing that Andy could have been in that group. Because all of us get a different sliver of what's going on. yeah it's it's wild it is really crazy because it seems perpetual it seems like

5:53 That's just unfortunate, especially when they're portraying things that are going on now with dudes that are really alive still. klein's ads and now you're playing me like that has got for marcus that's gotta be so weird Yeah. Yeah. like because you haven't touched it. Yeah. I would imagine hunting is not nearly as intense. more crazy than any of those things, it's crazier than any of those things, is that you're taking 17, 18-year-old kids and subjecting to that while they're really still just figuring

9:04 No alcohol for you get your I was one of the dumbest fucking human beings on the planet. shit like this chimp um fucking most of the things i'm not into maybe i wasn't into yoga or jujitsu Young and dumb. going from legos and lincoln logs to what's that over there exactly she looks good girls are They definitely shouldn't be able to vote. Well, that's what Andy did.

11:18 Yeah, that's fucking young, man. It's fucking great, man. music a lot and doing art and picked art because that was what I was most passionate about. And, like, both my granddad served and great granddad served, handle it? Pretty well. Yeah? Way quieter than I expected. I think they thought that I would just Yeah, I can only imagine, man. going overseas and he's involved in operations. It's for real, for real.

14:22 And it's tough to see, but I really wanted to do that thing and you know Is there anybody that's got it right? You know, I understand. Because he could smell diesel. That fucking opening scene when they were on the beach. Yeah, this is how this has to happen. 425,000 Allied and German troops were killed, wounded, Yeah, so. Yeah. That's why they did it that way.

17:54 I'm like, fuck. it can go really deep yeah but it's a it's a wet submarine so we're on we're on scuba it's all like Just being in a scuba is crazy, but being in a scuba gear inside of a fucking submarine. That doesn't even look real. Ish. No, no. and slide it in the ocean? Really? question how much hair do we got oh my god i guess we have enough oh my god yeah that to me freaks me

21:20 All they have to do is bump you and create a little stress fracture. Real? I'm sure it's documented. a tsunami washes them ashore have you ever seen those websites dedicated to like the stuff that Yeah. Yeah. I'm going with number two. and then they exaggerate the size of them I'm glad I wasn't full of shit. It says a 13-centimeter arrow- shaped fragment dates back to around 1880.

24:30 God damn. In, I think, parts of the frozen north. and said it was rendered obsolete by a less bulky darting gun a few years later. I was ice fishing on four inches of ice just a couple of months ago. they only invented that explosive arrow tip We got you. too majestic and how much do you need a lamp? Isn't there other ways to make a lamp? is like this excellent moisturizer.

27:02 Oh, yeah? That's like a Starbucks takeout cup. they're weird, heartless-looking fucks. Do they get curious? We were in Maui doing some training, and we heard some whales as they were migrating. Yeah. Yeah, I want no part of that either. they're like listen these motherfuckers have guns and they have planes and they can shoot guns out It's dark. Keeping in a fucking

30:43 nice people they're taking care of these wolves. A couple of them were all wolf. Yeah. I go, because they make testosterone. slammed into him but he told me he goes it's not necessary he goes and it does affect the dog's He'd growl at kids. Yeah. Females, it's different because they will bleed Like, you little fuck. Yeah. actually found him uh her and her boyfriend were staying in this apartment and below the apartment there was like this opening and like those like a you know little crawl space area and this cat

34:56 And just me and this fucking cat in this guest room of my house. And then as soon as I let him go, he'd be like, hiss, try to fucking climb up the curtains. two and she would come right up to me and start purring i'd pet her and the cat was like oh okay you talking about and it's like wow and that has balls removed Have you ever seen the numbers? It's a stunning number.

37:03 Like not yet, not yet. Yeah. We did. Look at the eyes behind him. Into the throat Well that's what I was telling you Yeah. California. grizzly bears. There used to So the cats are like, let's fucking do this. But then they don't sell the tags for that, so they don't make any money off of it. pork. And this is not just from one person. He said it was spectacular.

39:58 Yeah. And that you have to kill them. And that was your first hunt, right? So you learned on the fly. you have to book a ticket to kansas i'm like when he goes next wednesday whoa so essentially i like Is coaching you in Kansas. I have told so many people I've never met somebody at that kind of station in life that gives away more of their time. He's changed the way so many people approach archery, too.

41:54 Yeah. i've hunted with a rifle before and it's very satisfying like it's great to eat reasonably if you were a decent rifle shot. Yeah. You hear it breathing. About four weeks, yeah. videos the first whole week. that's such a crash course I grew up in L.A., so What am I going to hunt? what it's like to share that meat with other people. Or my friend Tom Papa will send me photos of these elk roast, like elk roast that he cooks. Yeah. It's nice. It's phenomenal.

46:40 Send me pictures. probably my wife would agree but uh cooking for for a group of friends and laying out, especially if it's cooking something that you've killed yourself. So you were an early adopter. And I was starting to come back into doing strength stuff, like a lot of deadlifting and some power activities. Super easy to digest. I do So Zach who holds the world record

48:38 He's eating their portion too Well, there's a few that are not. I think that's where the vegan vegetarian crossover started happening. There's a lot of credence to that too. Like that there's a real benefit to not giving a fuck. I'm relatively even keel about a lot of things. I mean I would imagine dealing with anti-war people has got to be one of the more difficult things to leave alone.

50:52 isn't trying to have a discussion they're trying to tell me how it is yeah it doesn't matter and You know? and one of the things that we talked about was that I do my best for letting those stories get out and having the kind of open discussion that it allows you know, it's, the Intrepid Center for Excellence How is this a Right. 350 plus million people in the United States?

54:12 They have no idea. Sneak in. They got to be guessing. I mean, you're guessing. I get it. Yes, I'm in. Yeah. It's weird when there's like a fucking just a spot, they picked up a map of the Middle East and they're like, Here's, you know, they tried to put all the people groups in the right spot. a lot of those nations they kind of created at the end of that conflict what's the weirdest place that you

57:14 Is it? He's going to eat you. I'm going to watch it. That's so weird. They're terrifying looking. It's bigger than a horse. But the way that motherfucker It just lets you know. Is that deer limping? They eat 50% of all the calves and fawns. They eat other bears. chased him off the dead cub after he killed it and then I shot a big boar this last spring.

1:00:45 It's just a black bear. Yeah. Did you see that black bear record. World record black to jack with them. and they've now changed it. Let them breed everywhere, you dummy. where it's him standing next to the thing. That's a crazy place, New Jersey, Him and his buddies went um how scary would that Holy shit. The way they behave. And they're looking around

1:03:20 because he made the tiniest bit of noise, aggressive like they have to he's gotta be the king and also he's probably trying to eat your it how fast are you dog oh my god i saw a video once of a bear charging this guy. Yeah. And he literally shoots it at the tip of the rifle. And he goes, well, if the ears are pinned back, that means it's for real. you know, walking jelly donuts that are out here hunting other things.

1:05:54 Like, the cool thing is, there's part of it being in that country. Yes. your genetics like you're out there mushing dogs in the snow So your first one was in BC. Yeah. Oh, wow. and doing a spot in stock which is one of the hardest kind of hunts to do like we and while there's some severe consequences yeah let alone i would feel like dog shit if i wounded this thing

1:09:37 No. So it didn't even, there was nothing there. Oh, man. They're not trying to get away. when you first ate it well they have to shoot as it's a garbage disposal they're a cleanup crew yeah clean up crew so that was your first hunt yep so how hooked were you all in immediate like beyond So the story ends up being kind of neat because of the size of that damn thing.

1:12:13 I'm like, yeah, okay, I can hear that. like 300 or 400 yards away from us And he just kept waving his antlers at us. And they think he was about 10. It had already been three and a half days of hunting. it's going to take until nighttime, which it was getting towards twilight, Wouldn't have cared. Thompson underscore Parasports? How do you do that?

1:14:27 Yep. He's got this beautiful grid set up on his Instagram. you see that did you have like an artist's instagram page this is not like a okay keep So we had a lot of moose in camp. What did I want to say? God damn it, I don't remember. No, back up. Yeah's too hard. When someone's scrolling, you're like, stop. Go there. Oh, shit. No, back up. So how did you get all the meat out on those things?

1:17:15 canoed each half across the lake individually, Yeah, when you see it on the ground, that's when you realize like, whoa. It's not just psychological, is it? It's an athlete. They'd want to eat Brock Lesnar. like andy said it best he's like it's like i have a pin in every september they're like there's a make sure you're thinking about your release perfectly.

1:20:06 back yeah no reason not to right well it's just the best way it's it eliminates a whole idea of Okay, pull back. It used to be Iron Mind Hunting, and now it's like Shot IQ. i don't want i want to make sure that i'm right see See if you can Google that. But they teach us the same stuff in the teams. No. all the outside bullshit get in the way of pulling the trigger the right way right

1:22:58 You see people do some wazoo shit. It's hard to keep control. Like this isn't happening to you. Yeah. People lose their shit. at the shooting so that your brain can stay open to all the other pertinent shit that's going on gotta be dialed in yeah yeah super dialed so with pistol and rifle it's the same way like i'm gonna weeds out people that can't put stress and information

1:26:42 You can always lose it. You know, I don't particularly remember exactly what the advice was, like word for word. in combat in these situations Well, I was one of the youngest guys there because I was augmenting, meaning I was an extra person. It's fucking terrifying is why. it's not for fun. Because if you're not, there's a good chance you could die.

1:29:46 no negligence you know we weren't we weren't doing things incorrectly it's just stuff that's so this is my ignorance of it, Many, many, many months You're doing so much and you're doing it so quickly and they want you to be how does it affect people? I'm always keyed on to, what's that guy doing? I can't, I don't know. Yeah. I love that guy to death.

1:32:49 Oh, don't do that. He broke a bone in his neck. john's throat doing something i think i want to say john that sounds right i think john had him I'm trying to remember. Yeah. What was it like? It was like I was wrestling around with It's such a fucking weird compliment. So you just did it that one time with him? He does jujitsu five days a week now.

1:35:27 parachutes what is that funny shit is that what it is i fucking love it is it there's a thing i mean people a lot of people yeah how many times you wingsuit jump a couple hundred base jumps and i have about 700 base jumps whoa always feel like you either have the ability to handle shit or you don't and then they can help Yeah. base jumping, jujitsu, there are things that you can take up that I think help guys unpacketize, like undo all of the shit that's in their head.

1:38:41 Right, right. and now it's not there anymore so it might start creating it on its own Right. And I don't think that that's because they don't care. pituitary gland damage from chronic brain trauma. We need to be doing preventative work. I think so. Right. But then when you get back, they don't have a use for you anymore. Do they give you any sort of advice?

1:42:25 It's a good thing to talk to psychologists? Is this something that you discuss with team leaders recently because so many i mean it makes sense are you gonna like like with fighters right do they Until you're done. It seems good. Yeah. it's very mellow. It is. if you're at the point where you're freaking out, Specifically for the underwater swim stuff,

1:45:37 Bitch, that is a long way. There and back. Oh, okay. it to corporations and teach it to groups and yeah law enforcement and people that need that Do you learn it from other guys? we are so well-trained It fucking works. Don't say that. Well, yeah, but she's special. So, I am not sure, but I think that they're trying to make that a thing now trying i wonder how many women have attempted to go through buds jamie see if you can google

1:49:09 how long does that take? A pre-screen screen. to sort of show that they have a There's some bad women But the thing about Navy SEALs is that it's like recognized that these are the best of the best. They want to show that they're not sexist. Pretty in this place up. You know, I'm sure it's the same. So like. The war was starting to, at the time, slow down-ish for op tempo,

1:52:38 time to do it dude and i'm happy i did you know i got out with all my fingers and toes, that were using women and children as targets and were causing terror. Yeah. When you got off, when you were done? think we came we went to the spring yep it was spring hunt, and then I think that was summer in San Diego. Does it feel like you? Is that, Bullshitting like gorillas.

1:55:39 Yeah. Their facility in Salt Lake is fucking dope, too. But it's this crazy old school roaster. It's bigger than this room. coffee snob but i mean that's his living now and he gives a shit about it you can tell he cares Good luck finding creamer there. Oh, that's huge. I think I select them out, people just put cream in it automatically i do they don't think it's a mindless action when i

1:57:59 No, they give you like a Pennsworth. out with evan all the time and he's constantly roasting beans and cupping coffee and he's trying and the consumer. Yeah, and I believe because they're buy a bag, give a bag, I think they've given over 30,000 pounds of coffee for free to guys overseas. And Evan's a coffee snob. You're buying like really small batches of coffee where there's not enough available

2:00:02 Like a little cherry fruit looking thing. i don't particularly recall you know i just i don't remember it being like extra fancy yeah Like, look at its claws. Whose poor job is that? Yeah, yeah. I'll retry your search. Civet called a civet cat. if you Google it, Hmm. In fact, they're more closely related to mongooses than they are to Or not cats They're commonly called Civet cats They're not cats In fact

2:03:13 There's a bunch of Occasionally they get jacked though What a weird animal. Yeah, a little bit. I don't want to give out the location. an actual breeding population of them. It does look like a coyote. Wolverines are like... I mean, what do they weigh, like 50 pounds maybe? fearlessness yeah it's you know nature has this very strange but logical sort of chain of events that take place, right?

2:06:02 You know? Yeah. Dude, you got to drive three miles an hour everywhere you go. No. Dude, that guy. Oh, my God. Yeah, in November, it's freezing in Iowa. like triple yeah this is like Singapore or something. He has a really fast one. No one's in my way How fast does it go You'll be good. You might be Google searching all the wrong things from now on.

2:09:39 You can't be like a peewee footballer where you've got a helmet that's six sizes too big. I think I saw a meme with that. I'm like, why is Skeletor fighting? So if he really did have that thing on for 30 minutes or whatever it was, 40 fucking pounds on him. Like on a throne. Come on. You got these guys in the ring, dancing around, If he had won, he would have been like, it's because of my outfit.

2:12:05 Fuck it I like the white LEDs Girls were carrying him? I think so, yeah. Nobody thought that was happening. That's what's cool. hands on people they're there to serve and protect other citizens. Yeah. I ain't serving and protecting any of our citizens. Guys get into it because it's definitely helpful, like totally secondhand. No, not particularly. You know, like some of the best jujitsu guys, they come from break dancing.

2:15:04 And when they first came to the school, Eddie was like, dude, there's something going on with break dancing. Yeah. Yeah. It had a significant impact. Dude, that guy would be terrifying to watch do gymnastics. Yeah, but just his ability to use his body. weird gymnastics weird gymnastic stuff pure curiosity really yeah so you didn't like take I'm about as good as like a seven-year-old girl in gymnastics.

2:17:09 The amount of proprioceptive knowledge that's going on there, mind-blowing. Yeah. You should come do it. It's worth it? Seems like you could just build one of those. Yep. And so when you're going straight up and down, like when you're flat, No, this is like an average size one. I'm sure he does. how to do this. Oh, yeah. I'm like, hmm, I'm not buying this.

2:20:28 Are you interested in doing that at all? I was literally talking to Andy about this at SHOT Show I got that from Sean Evangelista from, like, Andy's buddy. I already have enough. Yeah. That's what it is. an eight-hour job and does a marathon a day he just released a video um that uh like the cam an injury to his foot he thought was a he'll hammer out another eight.

2:23:31 All the other stuff that he does is really to get himself in shape for bow hunting to something and you're friends with them it's weird and a little terrifying right but it's also Yeah, he was like, thanks for the rock. Yeah. So even Goggins, like when Goggins and him were running, like Goggins has to keep up Exactly. Marshall we keep hammering until we're dead even your dogs not pushing it

2:26:44 running a goddamn marathon every day. Well, think about where we come from. Did you see that former Marine who was, I guess you're never a former Marine, 62-year-old dude who beat- Yeah, there's no such thing. He's a personal trainer. That's one of those things that you think, look at the fucking veins, man. Wouldn't you just get bored? You should be doing it for mental health awareness.

2:29:27 A P-tube Hey Some gel. Just when I do the UFC and I don't really eat for like six or seven hours, it's hard. Occasionally I'll get a hot dog or something when I'm doing those. And they're trying to figure out, why are these guys losing weight? who studies stress in primates at Stanford University says that a chess player losing shitloads of weight.

2:31:57 Because I don't think their heart rate is jacked. lost eight plus pounds wow in the water in the water dude that's nuts it yeah where's it going You could get dehydrated while immersed in water. What? Bernard Hopkins when he used to box exhausted and starving to death like when i do two shows a night after it's over i'm so hungry And it all comes up right at the end.

2:35:03 Oh, yeah. Not just that. And then when it's over and the animal's down, it's more of a relief and the success is nice. day of the hunt and it was a great elk he was about to shoot it and he's like i'm not ready to Fresh, yeah. andy and dud um because i get to take pictures i really enjoy photographing how people go through processes. from my point of view,

2:38:03 that's not something I'm seeking out right now. It's like, what's your agenda? I'm filming these hunts there's extra smells in order to get a better angle Yeah. Oh, yeah. And then I think Oregon and I want to say South Dakota don't allow dog hunts. Oh, yeah. You're going to give yourself, what, like three weeks? you go into the back country and are you gonna bivy sack are you gonna just sleep in the woods

2:41:00 Mm-hmm. And I think it would be a really, really special thing to pit my training and brain with a bow against a cat. If I'm able to make it happen at some point. Yeah. God, that's a bat. Oh, yeah. Let your kid off the leash. my ability are up to snuff where i'm comfortable doing that and pulling it off. So it's right now just a thought, like a plan.

2:43:43 Oh, really? you're all in that's my like that's, that's just my, I fucking love it. My hobby has allowed me Yeah. It's just, it's hard to describe for people. Yeah. I was down there last year. I totally agree with that. make sure you know. it's one of those things. you can probably find a dinosaur if you, Oh, man. Yeah, it's kudu day. All of a sudden there's like Marco Polo sheep in Nevada.

2:47:38 They're so nuts. Absolutely. I fucking love it.