Joe Rogan Experience #1436 — Adam Curry Transcript

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0:00 We sparked one up on New Year's Eve. Dude, you have a flip phone. Yeah. I wanted to be a little more connected to life outside. They're all doing all kinds of shit. But what do you need? Are you texting on that thing? Yeah. Hooked it up to the light. Right. or kind of like a bridge between all these apps that can do stuff with your bank account and your bank account. So if you have an app like Venmo or, ah, shit, name any payment app.

3:39 PayPal has their own system. of credit card payment moving stuff around so you think you're just using it as a as a utility So Credit Karma is a great example, which also just sold for $7 billion. Oh, yeah. And if you download the app, we'll give you a break. Yeah. That makes sense. I have a 29-year-old daughter, and she definitely had that mindset, and her friends did.

7:28 It's not easy. teething thing absolutely it's my little binky and i play a game with myself you know i'll give minutes it's it's crazy it's zombies yeah when you start to really pay attention to it when you're Full speed. And, yep, there I see the phone on the floor still open yeah and then her excuse was and as we're walking through this crowd, silicon valley figured out is that the pavlov response and all the brain impulses you get from a like or a retweet or whatever it is, or even just something, blip, oh, and we have different sounds, bling, plong, all this stuff.

10:51 Who came up with the name of it? And in amsterdam, they had cable modems rolled out everywhere and cable modems was sold at the time as always on internet That's always been my thing from the moment I saw it. um i took this idea to dave and i said we need to come up with something that can download a media what I wanted to do in his own software. and oh, click, and it would open up, and the experience was good until I saw my first iPod.

13:58 I had a Sony AM radio receiver, which is a little solid state thing. And I set about creating a radio show, which we didn't have the name podcast yet. So I was trying to download 50 episodes. but he envisioned that and called it podcast. I'm like, holy shit, something's blowing up here. Went there and I met with him for an hour. in the flesh. Now the first thing I notice is

17:59 and the way the authentication works, that it really wouldn't be that seamless. and all these different kinds of tools. I'm like, are you kidding me? 2004, something like that, I think. it. Oh, yeah, you got to check this out. This is hilarious. Well, you could try to sell podcasts, of anyone at all with something or nothing to say. I've actually had to restart the show three times.

20:45 Oh yeah And then Which I kind of took as a thank you Was there anything? But it put the subscription model into place. You know, the Apple podcast app. It's interesting because they're not even monetizing it. Kind of the beauty of the amateurism of podcasting got pushed down a little bit. They'll cut in. I've got to prep for the Super Bowl. be on kimmel like oh i'll stay up and watch and watch that she was second guest which kind of

25:14 That's still there, but there's a reason why you get Tulsi Gabbard and Bernie Sanders and And then I, well, this is cool. dude's doing some kind of pirate radio out there. Okay. We kind of created a real organic network. And agendas. An advertiser wants to know, and I'm talking real advertising, I'm not talking underwear and mattresses and make money but a lot of people have tried to do that all things they're still trying it they're

29:11 Comedians always suffered from famine syndrome because there was only a few shows on television And then somewhere along the line, the internet came along, Now, everybody does everybody's show. Yeah. we're thinking of it in terms of uh an industry at all it's really That's why top 40 stations go to Popeyes. Yeah. Shout out to Ryan, my dance instructor, who's a huge fan.

31:32 It's a huge workout. this it's really oh it was with the Kevin had this thing It's a total trust thing. But when you do an hour and a half, like a double lesson, I'm sweating. I believe it. It's a bumper sticker so we want to get to the that's cool Just try it. Sounds like me. He flew me around downtown LA. Okay. Whoa. I've been invited. Exactly. Yeah, out of the window.

35:05 Yeah. It's so good. That part's not for me. I get it. Yeah, it's, well, that, You dress them, you do all that yourself? And I think just knowing this, I'm cognizant of it, and I don't bless my food, but I think about it. interesting like if i could just eat elk for the rest of my life i'd be happy doing that reindeer And then there he is. So they kill him right before they serve it to you?

37:48 Caribou is a very prized meat. No, but I'm interested. mushroom yeah they eat it constantly hence it's a psychedelic mushroom the flying reindeer it gets under these trees. under trees. Put that photo up again for Adam. And balls, those bright colored balls. tons of articles also almost all of the old christ Christmas cards had the Amanita Muscaria mushroom on it.

40:14 Oh, does he? No, no, no. Find some ones that show like, look at that one right there in the middle. sure and over time we've kind of lost that connection commercialized it into all kinds We threw them into the party party and then we took off. Yeah. Wow. That mushroom also is a weird one in that when people take it, they trip, and then to really enhance their trip, they drink their urine.

42:54 do you have access here in your backyard no no i got deer oh really yeah i don't know regular They hiss. Yeah. It becomes a real issue. They're basically rodents. Nothing to see here. i had everything yeah oh dogs cats goats uh do you feel for now without them i do yeah i do it's I don't like any of that. You had a castle in Belgium? marketing advertising companies and it was big.

45:36 And after all the lawyers and everyone had taken their money, there was $15 million left. Moved to Amsterdam, moved back to the Netherlands I'm like, on paper On paper, Joe it was Ask Jeeves. And you now have $65 million. It's an SEC regulation, so you can't sell for it. I think it's negotiable, So there's a lockup typically six months you're an international traveler oh i've lived in a couple places um and was going back and forth

48:16 Maybe it was that area. And so people were really depressed, and it was all messy, and it was not a good vibe. Austin I don't know so I visit him and we did a meetup and this is in the something maybe it's just austin i don't know so i visited and we did a meetup and We bought a house together, southeast Austin, but we were living downtown, right downtown.

51:19 mirror, I look there to make sure there's not a bike next to me. It's just built in. They go very fast. Oh, yeah. Yeah, you're going down at 50. So not the top programmers. So they don't care. We're following the let people camp everywhere thing. move someone who's camping if you can't offer them adequate um housing so these people are just They're getting harassed.

55:02 Oh, there you go. How do you stop? And I do a lot for the homeless problem in Austin, as much as I can. Someone dies, you know, and then it's just downhill from there and before you know it, you're out on the street. It's drugs. but you rent it. And there are some prerequisites, but you don't have to be necessarily drug-free Oh, that's cool. he lives there he lives in a in a in a small you know small home on premises yeah and if you go

58:04 And a community. Community first second. Let's have a coffee. Let's see what's going on. Pull your pants up. And a community. Well, of course. And then we used to do Fear Factor in downtown LA, like right down the street from Skid Row, Yeah, great infrastructure and everything. Adam Carolla said it really well. If you have something to lose, like you have nothing to lose.

1:00:08 That's the only thing that could happen. I was reading the Lisbon Treaty, which was kind of the European – different about you can incarcerate people you can deadly force by the cops would be legalized. Don, have you read this? And so it started to become a lot of work. So we'll just have to ask people to send us money. But why did you say you would never get advertisers? Because it's too controversial.

1:02:29 I'm sure you've gone through all of this. but we did something different. dollars i love the show someone else says here's five hundred dollars that's how much i value the So they're brought into the conversation specifically. and we're very very happy and uh that's all i do is you a week, Sundays, Thursdays. We do record it live. They're producers.

1:05:27 I just get stuff coming in, coming in, and we like to deconstruct the media. and then present it. And it's often surprisingly accurate. And then we started to, I guess the correct term would be gamify it. They're just as good. People send letters to us all the time. I would say more like a church, which can also be a cult. That's another thing. is really exciting when it shows up in the podcast app.

1:08:23 many people listen we don't know we don't fucking We don't even know how many people listen. We don't know. We don't fucking care. but it's only iPhone statistics. network address translation that you may But for us, it's like, Jen Briney with Congressional Dish. No one's going to get triggered. for something that used to be normal to say like there was a like some of it is so ridiculous it's crazy like there

1:11:48 Like, holy shit Yes College audience don't count in the Nielsen ratings, in two feet and and immediately fuck you commercial mtv asshole what are you doing here fuck off that dangerous i'm gonna go back at them but they're anonymous and that's the that's the best thing under whatever Twitter handle, Joe Rogan, you dick. like, they feel you. Like, what the fuck, man?

1:15:04 He delves into. The same guy wrote Sapiens? Maybe, I don't know. That's the guy you should have on your show. He delves into... Look up Lost Connections. That's right. catching sweat dripping The de-platforming Zuby is a musician. That's it. The UK, you cannot transphobicize somebody, and you can actually get a visit from the cops. That's madness. They got them kicked off temporarily.

1:17:32 Paul Singer, he is a huge part of the Republican financial engine. what they don't want controversy any controversy fuck no they don't want how they don't want They're large women. I'm not really a Sports Illustrated guy, but I just don't know. Was this I like about your show is no there's bad people some of them are men there's bad women too like casey anthony it's a bad woman

1:20:23 It's just dumb. And it's not even the full mob. do it right now now i will say beware my Tourette's will get significantly worse but that's fine but because i got twitches and things and mtv was great for me because the segments were like a It's who I am. That's why I love radio. Yeah, that's why I pulled that one out. I mean, I got the turmeric stuff.

1:23:29 turmeric, but that stuff's delicious. It is, right? No, no. It's not like, well, in Austin, they've actually, they haven't really decriminalized, but they're like the cops. It was just, they called it, Oh, yeah, everything is shipped through the Netherlands. Not really MMA. Yeah. Look like you were 15, you could drink, drink beers, order a beer. including heroin.

1:27:08 And people overdose, and then they die. all these people kurt cobain commit suicide had a problem with heroin classically uh lead singer crime that's all you're doing you're not stopping people from doing it because these people there's I mean, HSBC was literally laundering the money from Mexico with drug dealers just coming up on the Mexican side, throwing millions of dollars a day into the deposit.

1:29:25 that that i actually looked into that very very deeply this this was that the tobacco industry And what it turned out was that was people who had vaped THC cartridges. companies can i ask you this is the the the vaping from marijuana with their process is more I'm like, bro, I'm not sucking on your vape. yeah with an instructor you know he wanted to see how i did it and it was perfect yeah i play pool

1:32:04 I'm sure, yeah. Interesting. The helicopter, you've seen it and it's very small input the helicopter you've seen it it's very very small of their sales to So everyone had an incentive to get rid of vaping and get people back on tobacco. whatever you want in it, Oh, thank you. You can get mugs and t-shirts and all kinds of stuff. They sell it, give a third to the artist. They they keep a third and they eventually give us some money okay but you know we've always said no just do whatever you want that's beautiful we don't care

1:35:01 Verbal ones from PWE Trust. But those are good relationships when you have a relationship with someone So we had all. Yeah, that's my release. I was like, you didn't ask me to... Oh, is this my release? Yeah, that's my release. Of course. Okay. It was massive. he died. And the way you stop it is by taking away the flavors because children, they want flavors.

1:37:22 it has but it actually runs on tobacco, and it doesn't burn it. He said, Melania has a kid. We have the new product we've all been waiting for. we're altria uh so we're gonna buy uh 500 million dollars worth of advertising over the next five children on television? if you have a lot of stories about over-medication of children. Because I'm sure My dick's not going to work

1:40:21 You know like And what's the other one? Where's the UPS driver? But then every commercial break, boom. Sorry, either one, because that's like a real fuck up. I'm going to get you a blunt. That's pretty good, though. She would just be like, I don't, you know. I still, if a woman comes in, I'll stand up at the table. I like that. texas so and also people are really nice in the car to each other yeah it's like go ahead man you

1:43:11 There's places where people are armed that it's a really nice place to be. It doesn't mean bad things can't happen there. And when a bad thing does happen, this stuff, I like Is it rolled on the thighs of virgins. in the day she's hot yeah she's hot definitely skinny yeah but um it's um wasn't she married It was a long time ago Good skin That is a crazy little sneaky move, or at least a YouTube video.

1:45:08 Yeah. I'm 55. You look great for 55. Thank you. You really isn't You look very good for a person who's smoked a long time I'm 55 If you push it all down, it would be better Oh my god And cardio of course come on let's go it's fun and so a lot of spin classes are really that really competitive like on so i'm kind of like you're blurry right now but i can't see so i can't see the hottie instructor

1:47:17 Well, here's what happened. I said, really? and I was already kind of there. They don't even realize that they have a hearing problem. And I like our processing, our EQ. Okay. It's an in-ear, so it goes right into my ear. Now, I'm a little different, and I'm also way into sound. you come back after a couple months and they tweak it you come back again so i said look see who i am

1:51:21 So I've made my own reality of sound. By turning my head? They have an algorithm that will try to guess where the sound is from and tell your ears But just for – yeah, so it just doesn't work with and that's where I hear her better. You could probably fuck with someone's voice like a Snapchat filter and make them sound like a cartoon. you wouldn't even know

1:53:55 that is a part of it's not a replacement, it's an enhancement. It's cool. They're called hearing amplifiers. it's more expensive but don't i just recommend that that's self-testing is not a good idea So he's hyper-focused on other things. Like, look, let's pay attention here. car engines, all kinds of stuff. so we've been living together for a couple of years and luckily, you know, we have a new relationship, you know, so we've been living together for a couple of years.

1:56:40 Yeah. Do you use Unix or Linux? No, I'm not that deep. And there's some good devices available, and so I made this transition. I can't stand that, you know, I have to have an account to use Microsoft Word. I don't want it. It's just I can't stand it. I can't stand that I have to have an account to use Microsoft Word. Which is Linux. Audio solution for Linux

1:58:21 You're talking about I just picked it up. I just have to laugh at it. And it stuck. has just been this running joke because libra means free and you know kind of like this lovey How well does it do the job? If you want to get balls deep into the world of computer technology, it's a long river. and then put another handset on top. And then my dad always had computers around the house,

2:01:31 them office stores whatever the chain was i don't think they're around anymore it was like so it was Like, what are the government's files on UFOs? Jamie does. Yeah, that's cool. We got the internet figured out. know michigan you michigan minnesota minnesota oh my god thank you um and they said dude you're I don't have $5,000. That's cool on them, too.

2:04:32 And, you know, it's now one of the biggest VC in Silicon Valley. Just like bloop, bloop, bloop, bloop. And it only lasted like 15 seconds You would download What is this? I want to see that. don't you have that yourself just with age i mean yeah i mean so of course but yeah it's it's all Usually a guy in a suit and tie. AMTV had to buy BET because they were getting world premieres

2:07:13 And, of course, they already had seen a little bit of it with what's the first reality show they had? That was the precursor to Total Request Live, Carson Daly's show. Every single day Gee. They had to stop him from being number one. Hey, Joe, this is really nice. I swear to God, we didn't try to be a pirate crew. I love, It's got a good feel to it.

2:09:22 and all the stuff Yeah. What are we doing? Why are we following this girl? A comedian got Great comedy. Good. Oh, you can do the sauna? nice it's so undeniably good for you if you do it all the time but then i'd be smoking weed in the Well, that is a real issue. It's not a difficult formula that I employ, but I'll tell you guys if you listen, if you also float.

2:13:27 And the road is thinking only of the breathing, only of the in and the out, and the in and the out. And you have one person will be watching you, and then you team up. I mean, it's one of which I had seen, but she starts hammering the pillow, like, really, I bet she's just wild, just looking for an excuse. That's probably what it was. I think it's holotropic breathing, right?

2:16:02 It's very impressive. He was one of the first guys to incorporate yoga into martial arts, like really seriously. Where he can pull it to the left and to the right And how his jujitsu was so strong This guy's one of the most interesting. he's an older man now and you know he's, and I know he still trains, and he's involved in these big seminars because

2:18:45 mindset sure meditation his mind was strong and then because of the yoga his body was really It's special to watch. but even a jacket you know like you're using clothes right the idea is like if you got in a Or skin tight shorts or pants. this giant gym in manhattan that is it just so many killers have come out of this one place Well, how did it end for him?

2:21:45 That's nice. He won out on top. That's nice. Nobody ever beat him in that was an MMA fight. And he beat his ass? And that's a nice exit. That's nice. the fuck my point was. Well, here's a question. or is it the environment I saw the thrill as a world event. Everybody should be like that. That was mainly because I was getting picked on at school. Martial arts for competition, it's a strange pursuit.

2:23:56 and you decide you're some bully and you run up on me and you think you're just gonna hit me where somebody just comes up to you and just starts smacking you around but you know, You might get confused and think like, God, you don't know maybe who he is. So, but say around sixth grade, and I was learning a little bit on the street and around, I shouldn't have said it in the first place,

2:25:49 I should definitely be careful what I say and to who I say it, Oh, thank you for bringing this up. No, listen, this is great right i mean i think everybody needs to know why things bother them why things like conflict bother them is this My wife is having that, too. But anybody doing something like that to you when you're that age Yeah. I think it should be taught.

2:28:08 And just knowing that you aren't helpless. I think that's a part of just the learning process Where you could go and learn. Did you see Fights Live? How can someone watch that? I mean, I remember going to the long necks, Then a four and a half hour, five hour bus drive. opium the women run the whole deal and uh and they they chew the betel nut root with a white paste in it, some kind of cocoa paste.

2:30:41 It's like, guys, I'm fucking hammered. You know, like, oh, this is kind of interesting, What's the name of the thing? Can we find out? Oh, yeah. And it's supposed to be very potent. Anyway. So we went to the small village fights. You know how to dance and move your legs around. So there's just video everywhere. to dance with each other old Fred Astaire movies

2:33:33 Broadway. Manly men. Don't underestimate the- At least women back then women broads and dames. pretty proven to work on on men's uh attraction to women red lips lipstick is also part of the It's all kinds of weird shit. Especially if it's like a sticky tie. You literally have a strap around your neck. Men get pushed into all kinds of things And I was like, look at that fucking suit, man.

2:36:56 earlier yeah but guy richie loves suits but the way he talks about it like you love suits too Is it a Rolex? party and it's like oh man there's like three women here wearing my watch it's like still looks When did they figure out a pocket watch? Henlein. Yeah, I guess. just doing his thing with the clock. Be 59 all summer long. I'd go off to some bad

2:40:20 all the artists. And all of a sudden, he's like Mr. Hollywood and doing well at it. He invented himself, too. Yeah. I'm just- Anyway, he's been around forever and still doing it. was there ever a moment when was the moment i and then get out what year is that oh this has got to be uh early 80s no maybe even late 70s so It used to be DOS and people have WordPerfect.

2:43:07 the software on your computer. And then you could open a terminal and you could type things like That's crazy. But he worked at Sun Microsystems at the time. And so he started to show me stuff, We can use this to broadcast. From the very first steps I remember that But yellow pages Because they were all hoity-toity about their advertising model, but they were really making

2:45:57 We don't need it. Dvorak can tell the story. Oh, bits. I always buy the newspapers. iPhone? Like I want to use the GPS. Wasn't there a blockchain phone that was going to be released? that are completely, It's the weed. They move to different types of ways of getting data from us. That's the system. So when we start to cut it down, they move to the hardware. They move to different types of ways of getting data.

2:48:54 And she'll call up and say, oh, here's what I always see you do. No manufacturer after probably 2015 Yeah. Thank you. Do you mean laptop or phone? It's still going to bleep and bloop. selling stuff they know so their maps is would be what I use. I trust that. I think it was do no evil. I thought it was don't do evil, but it was in the S1 document, and I remember reading it.

2:51:25 Oh, either way. I love a good conspiracy. And Keyhole is the mapping. And the psychology of Larry and Sergey, some psychologists have analyzed, and I've listened to a lot of different people, is that they kind of become what their oppressor was to them. it's a commodity and saying like selling and buying and selling well i think there is there It's all data.

2:54:13 We get your data. And we federate with all these other servers, much the way the World Wide Web grew up. some of the hurdles understand how an email server works and we will not need these companies we can unfair of me to say that um it it's hmm it's augmented in that it's enhancing. But I have enhanced it in ways that are particular to me, but it's not some algorithm really determining things that I should hear.

2:57:01 do you ever go to the haunted uh mansion ride at disneyland yes and you look you know there's a ghost sitting right next to you if i see you with I mean, that's preparing people for the barcode or the chip. It sounds kind of annoying. World War Z. I think this is, sadly, we're reacting in all the wrong ways. Now, we know that seasonal flus can kill quite a lot of people.

2:59:46 So we're primed. wouldn't normally be willing to do. And it's like a piece of the Patriot Act may actually get passed in that. it was already written yeah it was good to go bin I was going to say that Binney from the CIA. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, shit. of it you know your your ideas of of broadcasting uh for sure part of the seeds that led to the