Joe Rogan Experience #1445 — Andy Stumpf Transcript

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0:00 Two, one. What's your hot take? and they're not showing us exactly how they're going to get out of this. That's gone. way where I can get reelected. Like everything is probably viewed through that. But I would hope at telling the truth and who is not there's stories of people saying hey i tested positive for this It's a wild time because of that, because there's no clear information and because you're seeing some people that look really healthy and then you're seeing the stories that come out of Italy.

3:49 but might be transmitting it. that died and they said he just got back from Disneyland. this young man just got over testicular cancer. Those are the people that really have to worry. And I really wish there was a clear way to help them other than shutting down everything A lot of people live their life, take the virus out of the equation. A lot of people live their

6:19 I can give you 15 different ways to wipe your ass without toilet paper. I've had T-shirts that became tank tops. Well, but they're scared. I would think it would be food. Well, but they're scared. And I find that when people get scared, I was having with Evan was, you know, it'd be great if we were talking about, you know, Yeah. which is what I see people doing, and it's so dangerous.

8:47 It's just this cascading effect. But I remember like the solidarity after 9-11, it was all about we and not about me. And I hope Come to these locations, you can get free meals, but that's assuming the kid has a way Yeah. that they've made to shut everything down. Here, I'm sending this to you right now. Like maybe we can care about the we over me.

11:17 for COVID-19 by age group. 14.3 to 20.8 hospitalizations 21 to 28 hospitalization That's my age group. 429 cases, less for some weird reason. Yeah, high risk. Well, there's other spectrum too. And you have to assume, though, that those numbers are completely inaccurate. I was trying to explain to the nine-year-old what the development of the frontal lobe is.

14:33 you see the little nine-year-old brain spinning. I go, it's not really ready yet. She's like, You know, they're free. By the way, have you seen the coronavirus song yet? We can't play it? It wouldn't help. I don't know. No, that's okay. But now I got the real account. Reggie Bay B-E-E-2. When you hear things about like a vaccine will be available in 18 months, you're like, what?

17:30 And he said that they could have had a coronavirus vaccine, but if you live in that environment, and how I act and try to exude calm, How about we work on that just a touch considering that's one of the highest risk factors, right? focusing on things that they cannot control. And that is definitely one thing that I learned from need to shoot back with overwhelming fire superiority, and then you have to maneuver,

20:29 they're going to end up killing you. another way I've had it described to me that made a big influence on me and the way I think about on on CNN? Sharing back and forth things on Facebook that probably half of them aren't even And what do you have control over at all times? you were a paranoid person and you prepped and worried about the future, you would have already

23:11 Dude, those mountain ops. Oh my God. The last time I ate mountain ops, when I went on a hunt, version. And when I was in at least, it came in a white bag. It was for like Alpine cold weather This is like eating a cylinder of titanium. eating Skittles. It was all I could do. And then we get this care package right before we left And guys are just laying in their racks just like – just shut down.

25:52 Yeah, I always wondered. don't ever- I like them. See, that's in my circle of concern. I'm not worried about it. I like that's exploratory. Well, I've stuck with it now for a few years. I would say, That's it? Well, that's disgusting. So we were there. Apparently it's delicious. As a new guy, and they're like, dude, that's a delicacy. Like, we love Balut. Eat that little embryo. Well, that's disgusting.

27:33 They give you a delicacy? Because there's the 100-year-old egg. were serving them hundred-year-old egg that was the other thing that we served He said there are no words to describe the putrid, disgusting smell and taste. What the fuck happened where you're not supposed to kill sharks? Stay away. Yeah. Just stay out of the water. I'm not interested in

30:24 gone fishing twice, you're not a fisherman. Water's weird. Yeah. You see some turtles and shit and some fish. Yeah. The ocean's another one, too.eing? I get it. You know? Yeah. It's like if you were in a wheelchair. dioxide. And you have a chemical scrubber that scrubs out the carbon dioxide. And that's your entertainment for the sometimes four hours that you're underwater.

32:52 than one occasion, diving in the dark, weird noises under there because with a rebreather, I just kept my head down and kept going. You're just under there and something bumps into you and you know it's on the opposite side of your dive buddy. have been struck by lightning. That's pretty impressive. I don't think that's necessarily their natural habitat.

35:09 Ocean will fuck you up. Exhaustion dive on a Draeger. It's crazy that it works. continue that cycle. But so it, the canister will hit of pure oxygen and it can continue that cycle. Oh, no. Oh, it's – and again, you can spend time worrying about that or you can just drive on and deal with – if it becomes an issue, you can deal with it at that time. There's always a safety ratio in those training evolutions.

37:52 And I think – I forget what it was, but I think it was one dive soup per maybe four dive pairs. to start treating you right there. But the chemical, the cost of cocktails are gnarly. I mean, I do not know off the top of my head, but an exhaustion dive on a dragger, for me, you could go somewhere a hit of that pure oxygen. So on those dives, we're talking 20 feet to the surface is where you need to stay.

39:50 I heard spearfishing is the shit. I was listening to your podcast. but you need multiple, so one can be on deployment while another one is training and the other one is resting. We basically, you know, you're a deterrent at that point. You know, Saddam Hussein has, I think it was 24 hours to comply or turn himself in, whatever it was. which compounds a lot of stuff. You have all your normal shit on anyway. Like there's guys

42:45 Jesus Christ. The gear that I wore towards the end was substantially different Just for weight and for ability to move, It would be rotor blades on top of the helicopter. I don't blame them for that either. Yeah. 18. Oh, no, no. 22? No, I went through. How old are you? Me, 42. I was in my, at the time, If you maintain a low enough heart rate and you're totally chill,

45:56 What's nods? Night vision goggles. Oh, okay. Things that you need to see at night and we'll through and dismiss everybody jesus christ well i take that back uh the door gunner standing next because I would have rather died The next morning we wake up and I remember having a cup of coffee with a buddy of mine. And we could fit 27 people in the helicopter.

48:27 There was a public story of that. her i went had again yeah i had her on your podcast when uh it was one of the earlier episodes i went Man, I don't have the exact details. And you get captured. Oh, yeah, you're going to for sure. If you're a male or a female. Really? Oh, yeah, for sure. there were two people with us that were carrying video cameras and there was a little bit of

50:52 but the stuff that was said, the stuff that made the news, all this stuff that got blown She never said that she fought. space to give a debrief. You know, she was literally being flown probably to Germany for the wreck and when we picked her up because there are conflicting narratives. Wow. 90%. It doesn't give you any insight or special powers i mean it just

54:40 Like, every single person in the military is telling war stories. Let's give this person this. And then they start, you know, to me, the biggest threat to the veteran community is veterans themselves getting so tied to an occupation. It really does. And I can understand why it would be something that you would want people to not be fascinated by. Yeah.

56:52 And if there is a struggle often between entertainment and authenticity, authenticity loses because Yeah. Yeah. and actors and any cut. Yeah, I mean, how could you ever make that authentic? having to make decisions where somebody might live and others might die. It's not Marcus Luttrell. So it's like, wow, this is weird. But look, it's got to be the weirdest fucking thing ever to see someone who you know play

59:59 So. That's the – That'd be a mind fuck for sure. What the fuck did they do to my story? Mark and David Schultz documentary or film. America ever produced. And his brother Dave Schultz, who was one of the greatest wrestlers America ever produced. And in the real world, he had a UFC fight against Big Daddy Goodrich. He was coaching, I believe, at Brigham Young.

1:02:16 Some fucking asshole. But when I see this Russian guy standing there and then Mark Schultz gets into the cage to So it was ruined before then, but you stuck it out. It's a real thing that happened. I would assume that that would be an accurate portrayal of the history of it. This is just what producers do. Because it's war, Well, and also the results.

1:05:03 Yeah. But not all the experiences are that way. But we should, I think, because people are fascinated with it, take what can improve society. And so we don't have to I mean Jocko was one of the he's an example that I point to all the time of the fuck out of my screen i want to start a hashtag like up at a reasonable hour i just want There's no bad audiences, only bad comedians.

1:07:35 I don't make good decisions always. leaving YouTube comments? No. And this is one of the reasons why so many of them are toxic. this and that and how they break this down and restore that. Right? And there they go, off to the races, just typing, fucking spewing out hate. So it increases the toxicity. Well, you're dealing with a specific type of person, the type of person that's willing to

1:10:45 That's true. But if they did, if you just sat down with these people and talked about it, their emotions drive their behavior and the way they communicate instead of detaching from that they, Who were they chopping up? But they would go to bars, find a couple, continue the after party afterwards, elicit an argument, some type of exchange. They found a Spyderco knife with like hair and like basically tissue still on the knife.

1:13:24 Imagine if they didn't break into Hooters. can't separate an individual from an occupation or a uniform or a black belt, right? If you think I'm like, well, A, just say thank you. it's in that environment, obviously. And if you hold the person that was a non-veteran to a certain It's just a job title. They need to structure their organization with that framework so it's objective, not

1:16:48 You're out there doing, you know, we find an individual. you can meet in the middle and we all are taught to clear rooms the same way. And it's just, world small. Like people. That applies to what's happening right now too. So what you're talking One of the first things they do in BUDs, you're explaining the concept of a swim buddy, and you don't get to go anywhere farther than six feet away from another

1:19:23 buddy. So it's a lesson. And it's at a beginning point where you can instill this philosophy of we is greater than me. SEAL training, but it's not a complicated course. We're stressing the body to stress the mind. And time again, the answer I would get from the students is they got overwhelmed. So they were they're off their rocker by Tuesday afternoon. But almost all of the attrition occurs from Sunday

1:22:18 your goals and then resilience. And my definition of resilience would be the ability to get bent test, but we're just testing the mind. Can the individual ignore the big and focus on the small? You don't see it as a student because you're so just task saturated. It's actually on the wall at the Bud's compound. If you win a task like in Hell Week, you'll sit by the –

1:24:43 The winning boat crew will get a little break, and the losing boat crews will get remediated. Yeah, look at that neck on that front right guy. It's an IBS, inflatable boat small. high-lick track in the sand sleeping. They're sitting there in that. You learn a lot work together and they're just crushing it. And other ones you'll see, you know, there's oars in

1:27:04 They will hate that person so much because they might be selfish or arrogant or they're I'm going to let them sort it out. training constantly? And how many people do the bare minimum? It's hard to say. There are people if you trip over the bar at that point, your hamstrings don't work or you suck. The amount of – so I was telling you before, I sat down with Henner Gracie yesterday, and we were just talking about – a lot about his interaction with law enforcement and how they got started, and it was with the Rodney King riots.

1:30:14 The terminating point would be to get their hands behind their back and flex cuff them. but that might be a good term, infecting. And quite frankly, ego gets into the way. So add 80 to 90 pounds on top of that, and now I'm kneeling on your back, right? and then they lose control of the situation. And it's purely because they don't have an There's videos of guys having a suspect on the ground and a suspect who's not trained in martial arts. But unfortunately, the cops aren't either. And they're

1:33:56 Oh, you like carrot cake? So he claims he didn't say this. He said it. So I went to a class like the next day and, uh, got ripped off. people start moving their car He was okay. thing too that I've come to understand better, developing friendships with law enforcement. I believe they were at that for like 10 to 15 minutes. And I'll just, you know, lay there on the ground and put my hands underneath my chest and they have to try to cuff me.

1:36:43 Yeah. And the amount of pressure that they started like applying to me, grabbing fingers and pulling my fingers back, it almost to me – like I wanted to ramp it up just like anybody else would. And that's the same SPG as in Conn? Chris Howder's a Machado guy. And I think it's SBG wide. They will give a discount for law enforcement, but I feel like it's so important

1:39:03 shit. Yeah, the average blue belt could manhandle the average human. Fuck. That's awesome. even just a simple arm drag yeah like you can right you can see people's body language like Yeah. You're getting a very biased perspective of what it's like to be a law enforcement officer. who's got severe PTSD, untreated, unrespected. They're like, hey, man, I want to go home at the end of the day.

1:42:26 I don't know what the fuck is going on in that person's head. trying to hire police officers and they were touting how much money you get paid. What you would want is everyone who's doing it to want to do good for the community You know, the military is a stable paycheck, But if you're coming to the military for the money, you're probably better off doing a shorter tenure or tour.

1:44:28 that gives me comfort. There's something about wanting to sleep late And they'll say if you want to get to X, Y, Z, you're starting at A. Right. Well, who's telling me what needs to be done? Right. Yeah. Like, it's not rocket surgery. Like, my advice is always write things down that you want to do. it's amazing what you can accomplish. Can you run distances and stuff or or do you still have nerve damage?

1:47:45 And people, I'm just looking at them and they're just like, I'm like, yeah, I'm good. You know what I got into, man? So I got into stair mills. Good luck with you. is for pack. Outdoorsmans make an excellent Get some of that party. You slide those plates on it and clamp it down. Like catch some sweet air off her back? I don't think you would kill her.

1:51:34 Yeah And it's just time to go down. Ah, for sure. And I kind of knew it was coming. And I'm like, I can't go. I was fine. I woke up prepared Did you slip over the top? Dudes get wild when they try to get out of things, and that's a particularly dangerous move Oh. you know i'm here because i want to learn to protect myself in the street and if i had done

1:54:51 Before you get to that position, you want to yank them and do something, Yeah, anything. Guys have gone for takedowns with guillotines. On the mats? And, you know, you've got to imagine it on the street. about jujitsu is the lack of takedowns and um that is a real factor in any sort of real world And those guys got fucked up. Oh, rugged. Judo is a good thing to learn, man.

1:58:22 So they're doing explosive movement like sandbag training with another 200-pound person all Well, maybe if you're squatting very rarely are you using your whole body weight that way. If I had to pick up a dude who's 195 pounds and I had to pick him up and he's out cold, fuck. They're some of the freakiest, strongest people in the world. It's a beautiful thing to learn if you can get someone that will really work with you

2:00:20 And the guys that are really good at it, it comes up. happens with skilled players yeah but when when it does happen it's like only happens with skilled players. Yeah. But when it does happen, it's a big surprise oftentimes. Right. compete. I need to determine whether or not he was talking about his experience, I got count involved in jiu-jitsu in 96, but I stuck with it.

2:02:30 He said he just stood there and realized, I just don't care anymore. No, you don't. but a barrel that sits two feet back from the magazine tube so he'll just bounce stuff I think that's it. And then we had a bail a day early because of a storm coming in. You guys were like, hey, we can get a plane in right now. What was educational was like how good the sun felt when I came back.

2:05:15 You thought, well, I'll be in the tent. No. It was fun. They stay lit for a long ass time. They're bullshit. Yeah, there's too much air. We were so pumped because everything was soaking wet. It's the rainiest place in North America. those valleys to appreciate, to really hit those peaks. I think that's what's going on right now. a gathering of more than 10 people and you're all essential businesses are supposed to be

2:08:43 Good luck with a whole month of telling people they can't work. downstream of that took a bath in the water and later on in the day a woman came out with two kids Maybe he didn't have any toilet paper because the grocery store was out. that's a perfect example of that. But the reality is people are going to die and it's going to suck and it's going to destroy families.

2:11:14 It's been happening for a long time, though. malicious intent are moving on that man intent and nobody is paying attention to it. Yeah. That's and that's the difference It's a real concern right now. and stay away from old people I think if you don't experience fear, you might trend towards the sociopathic side of the spectrum. It's okay to be scared, but just don't let it take over and control you.

2:14:19 I know that it exists in Korea. Of course they are. Yeah, but that's part of their whole long game. right? There's a hundred deaths in this country, I believe. And so he felt that to be a responsible person. Even though he's a stud. I think he won a decision. Yeah. Just rolling around. Dude, he's – I mean this is not a good example here because this is just him tired, hitting the pads.

2:17:08 He does everything correct. You know, like you kick elbows a lot. Those people are- So it's Thailand. I didn't know you could throw somebody down if you caught their foot like that. catching the leg. Look, here he is, man. I get nothing but respect for people who willingly step into that arena. percent of his being and i just i'm a big fan of this guy i'm a big fan of him as an actor

2:19:48 Think of someone who can really fucking turn their body and turn their weight into it. I'm like, if I'm kicking you, I'm kicking you full blast just because you asked. It's got a blade to it. Pull up the card. That was the tissue in his leg. That's a tube to to the image of his thigh, please. Well, it's broken down tissue. No. the same person for months.

2:23:12 But you think of it, it's fairly rare in terms of the amount of fighters I mean, he was so punished. that's what it looked like like look at his leg look at that leg i mean that is fucking crazy and that shit is just the worst punishment Coronavirus. Just a little thump. There was a guy named Pedro Hizzo, and he used to fight in the UFC in the heavyweight division.

2:25:58 I was there, I forget what I was there for, Jiu Jitsu was like this kind of high end He's got tree-trunk legs, huge legs and perfect technique. Look at this. Dan Severin. Fuck. and you could see the look on Rico's face. Yeah, that was an early Brazilian thing. They used to fight with Speedos. I just, I'm glad that it's moved beyond that. Yeah, that was an early Brazilian thing.

2:27:59 around in fucking grape smugglers. Yeah. what are you doing? please google this are thai steel cups still allowed in MMA? I know Kenny Florian throughout his career as a fighter wore a tie cup. It's not a jockstrap because ties aren't playing games. And if you get kicked in the nuts wearing I never even thought of that! Because instead of that position being just

2:30:35 Oh, yeah. And I was like, oh. I wear a cup when I roll. My friend Einstein did it. Shout out to Einstein. on my dick and I didn't do I go to the doctor or do I treat it like my nose? So I treat it like my nose. So when I went home and jerked off, it was like, the morning. There wasn't any blood anymore. So I kept an eye on it. Then eventually I didn't do

2:33:15 Okay. Martin, who is one of the, shout out to Hugo, That's MMA. Oh, okay. I thought this was the IBJJF. Yeah, see? Shall? Yeah, you have to, but that's MMA. Cut to... The IBJJF says you can't do that. Because the steel cup is a significant advantage. But Kenny said that he never had to worry about getting kicked in the nuts because it always hurt the opponent more than it hurt him.

2:34:52 Got to sidetrack to answer a previous question too. I was digging into that. and not yeah I need to And like I said, I'm going to give you one before you leave here. So that bottom strap of the old Thai cup. Not comfortable. No, thank you. And I really think that's probably a big part of it is because they know there's a fucking steel cup there. You got to think of how hard a person can kick.

2:37:54 Not good. Dude, they're going to fight on a battleship. That's not that far from now. I don't know, man. That's a good question because the woman who asked Trump caught him off guard and he wasn't Who did it? She's like, well, this is a nonsense conversation. about? You have one goddamn question? and something they know that can get traction in terms of a news story.

2:40:50 and not get a fucking killer disease, all those other things throw, they get thrown shit is because we had it so easy. Yeah. And I hope it tightens this social contract that we So much bullshit. friends. I'm giving it away to a lot of my friends. Well, they're new parents. Well, I've worn that one many times. That's my. I'm two-stoned. Yeah outfit NASA suit sunglasses

2:42:56 They don't work. And you're like taken off burlap and these intricate patterns. experience the idea of camo with animals is so interesting to me you know because uh when when Have you seen an elk kind of look in your direction, not even sure what you are? They just go about their business. You know, I actually didn't use my Montana tag last year. One of the things about hunting is, I think you have toitsu or a lot there's a lot of things where the experience is so intense and so

2:45:51 There's a currency aspect to it. The farther from the exposure, you're like exposure you like it doesn't feel quite right Like bow hunting on Lanai. We're like, what? It was humbling. And then I shot this deer like 50 plus yards from my knees and whacked him. and he's gone and then by the time the arrow got to him his physical body was no longer there it's

2:48:53 We had four days out there where it was like just enough wind that it would swirl. And the thing was bedded and it was windy. The first one I actually shot there was bedded too. Yeah, that's the way you do it. They don't hear it because it's so far away, and the thing was bedded, and it was windy. Yeah. They eat great. interesting because they're so fast.

2:50:25 I'm going to take a hard pass on that. I buy a lot of beef liver. You can have all of that. piece of apple pie like during this uh apocalypse i've been kind of eating whatever because i'm when that might be the only thing available. really fast. Yes. All right. Oh, 320 is the date, you fucking retard. Andy Stumpf, 212 on Instagram, a stump, or Andy Stumpf 77.

2:53:02 Appreciate you, man.