Joe Rogan Experience #1482 — Jordan Jonas Transcript

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0:00 All right, we're rolling. Say hey right back to him. 10 items just 10 items right does that include arrows like you can only have one no your bow and it's basically the last one to give up wins. Yeah. So when you won, they did that to you. I thought it would go maybe twice that long. uh how far do you want to go back let's go back all right go back we have plenty of time how did

2:35 train, went across the country, up and back. And then it was also the first time I had been So cell phone or no cell phone back then? And I think that was kind of like a coming-of-age experience for me because I just realized, oh, man, I don't really want to. Now, when you did stuff like that, did you plan on doing it for a long period of time? Yeah, he was just like, you know, he'd been doing it for a while.

4:01 Yeah, you get cans of food in your backpack. And I don't know how it happened, but I just slept through a downpour. And were all the cars open, or did you just sneak into a shitty one? Anyway, we ended up stopping in Virginia and doing some temporary work down there, I could only imagine that feeling when you're 19 years old. So we did some construction jobs in Virginia.

7:07 And God is defined as love. just the full years go over to Russia and, and I headed over there and that was kind of how the like super cool dudes. One guy was just covered in prison tattoos. One of the funniest guys I know, But also it was, I mean, it was pretty cool, you know, in hindsight. Yeah, as I learned. Wow. to slowly learn. It was a long time to wait.

10:44 There's no form in the sentence. I think you could emphasize, you know, make different. Should have chosen a different one. were supposed to you know they were able to form Yeah. like Brazil. virginia like living in virginia sometimes i'm so fascinated by how, with all like TV and being They're like, I got to put L on these tires. Yeah. They got some French shit going on there.

14:05 Yeah, yeah. No offense, Boston, right? I always wondered, like, what started it? just i guess how new languages develop over time, well, that's what's always been weird to me. It's like, I don't speak Italian, but my grandparents did, and they spoke dialect. It's like, there's so many different ways to communicate. I've been a little out of practice, but I got pretty fluent, could explain everything.

16:18 Sometimes, a lot of times I will try to read in Russian just to keep. And so I was like, yeah, that'd be cool. Like, you were, what is the name of those people? And then you can also eat the skin off the velvet. it's such a bizarre thing because they regrow Yeah, exactly. And that velvet, I believe they would sell to like a bodybuilding company. And somehow or another, they broke it down to a spray.

19:55 They caught a cargo going to China. He's the wizard. They got reindeer. The market value of animal parts illegally imported on the Chinese market. Woo the folks. It's kind of got the bamboo shoot texture, like kind of that firm texture, but it's real smoky. Yeah, they took it off the thing. Ray Lewis was rumored to have used it following an injury to his tricep in 2013.

22:38 But this farm near my friend John and Jen's place, they bought this farm specifically. Yeah, there's an elk farm up by my house in Idahoaho that has recently closed down i wonder if similar yeah i wonder Something crazy. Antlers, right. No, they don't seem to be too worried about it. to kill their own reindeer. You're mostly on and shit and people riding them they're uh almost they've been they're one of the first animals

25:51 and what do they do when the weather sucks like they have this this teepee set up always out you Is that an animal skin? And then they put, they lean sticks on the outside also to kind of hold the canvas in place. You know, like. schedule so every day you wake up it's like well what do i need to do today and you can kind of What do they do if they get injured?

28:03 Like what kind of injuries other than ribs? I had to roll over, poop in a bag it was brutal but then you know you they rubbed like pine sap on it and it Yeah. You don't want to check that out? Yeah, I do. You'd set it and leave it, and they're just setting it right now. net on the end of the other one and you can pull so on the string through this string on the end

30:35 I did it on that alone show. But no, yeah. And actually, where they filmed that isn't that far from where I was in Siberia. was really fascinating because as you watch those people and when they talk about it's just so unsatisfying that it's it's interesting to experience both but it's kind of hard to uh i mean i mean because you're in where you are so

33:17 Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And when we shot a deer, then we'd eat the deer. So there's a giant difference between the people who live in the village and the people who live in the forest. to them because they kind of don't have their cultural context to remain connected to. Everybody drinks. like restore some Buffalo herd, use a bunch of unused land that maybe the, you know, government

36:13 One of the things that happened to the Native Americans in this country Oklahoma. Well, there's an interesting story to that, too. But he also wrote a book called, europeans had come and given the plague given the smallpox and all this to native americans So what his theory is, is that they were in these incredibly large numbers because of that. They talked about bear.

39:10 that that makes sense it'd be interesting to or maybe those those travelers didn't run into the Yeah. and they would skin the coyote and then put the coyote skins on and walk on all fours up to the buffalo I've seen those two guys sneaking up on the herd. But when you get into that range, like 50, 60 yards, like good fucking luck. Man. But all that into account, it's like, man, you would almost choose this.

42:15 of help revitalize some of that culture in a way, you know, like just to. Because we have this narrative that the white man came along and did terrible things to the Native Americans and the Native Americans did terrible things to the white man. other stuff they fought over. You know, a sustainable thing going? There's an interesting project. Is that what you're talking about?

44:08 And sure enough, you can see pictures is the place those fucking freaky animals man yeah anyway those are those are cool uh and it's actually, not only does it not add carbon to the atmosphere, It'd be cool to tap into what, you know, like permaculture, I guess they call it, just tap into some of that on a larger scale because it doesn't seem very sustainable.

46:04 I guess you just start small and see where it goes. Yeah, it's crazy flying into LA. I've been to New York and stuff, but it was the first time in my life. Talk about brutal as far as the air goes. and it hits you all over again. It's rough. It's just how it is there. herds and i don't know i think a lot of people live off of like grandma's pension which you

48:28 their house lock the doors shut everything up and then you'll just see everybody like marching over in their teepee and all this and that. And then I went back to America. Sure enough, right after I The drinking continued. So it took like a week, and it's like a week later. Oh, Jesus Christ. She had gotten remarried, kind of starting her life again.

51:39 And it's like these people who are so beautiful, so nice, so friendly, you know, so open to you. You know, like when they go to the village, they get it and then they'll take, go out I've thought about that. of both, you know? Yeah. I've always wondered that about the Native Americans, the same sort And she was begging to go back to the Comanches. you followed the buffalo herd,

54:38 You know, like. awesome and it like spoke to me deeply same thing even on you know things like the alone show it's to you talk to like Elon Musk and as the, you know, inevitable march of progress moves forward, And then we invented electricity. And it's also far more complicated because you get so much information. just fighting in a box. it's hard to not get sucked into social media,

58:05 Like, in a way, like, even though this is digital, like, you and I are sitting at the Yeah. that people don't have that much. You don't really have three-hour conversations with someone where But then when you come back to life, it's still just like pulling you in. Yeah, it just sucks you in. Yeah. Get the fuck out of here. It's cool because you're out there and it's like your creative juice is flowing.

1:00:35 Yeah. where those videos are fascinating. So you're all like feeding off it together. And it's tough when everyone's in a mask and you don't get the personal connection of just It's like, come on! Jesus Just life has inherent risk. Yeah, but they're like coronavirus cases rising Absolutely. New York City, which, think about how they live. take someone from the taiga and bring them to manhattan before the pandemic and they'd be like

1:04:21 And he lives in really far north Alaska Alaska and it's Heinmo's Arctic Adventure And I mean, he looks great. My wife came with me to Siberia for – spent a winter and a summer. Little fellow with glasses on, has probably never done this a day in his life, but he's Right, exactly. city or something, there's like a big hurdle to get over. You grow up affluent.

1:07:24 I forget what it's called. Every Man, yeah. sort of felt like he had a calling right to introduce people to this sort of way of life You know, like that's all you can do. Although that said, Oh, there was actually only like five that went out there. You have to look at it that way. Right. So I watched the first two seasons and basically just sent them a link to my YouTube videos.

1:10:43 It was impossible to navigate it all. to be in the north you know like oh i was like oh awesome i like that place yeah and how how much So when you sign up for the show, how much time in advance do they give you? Did you do anything to prepare? But mostly my main preparation was trying to put on weight, which is always not that easy for me. that was so that you could burn fat if you ran out of food?

1:13:30 of it was a normal size and what's really crazy is he didn't have this the loose skin that plagues Yeah, they do go away after a while. 276. I know he's a fat fuck now. That was in the 60s. Oh, was it really? Wow. That's what he – is that him? It was in the 60s. That's nuts. Dude, what kind of farts did you have from just drinking olive oil? No, gross.

1:15:58 Yeah, those were like, I remember back in my, like, right out of high school, there's Did you wind up putting on any weight? Yeah, just from running around. No, I don't. as you needed and wanted, He's got these videos of him shooting bullseyes at like 45 yards with a recurve. I did notice on that show like Jenna yeah this part Aaron was trying to explain to me how he used it like he actually

1:18:50 your area and just use you know like bow hunting just allow it gives you good experience with Nine arrows, yeah. of fat you can get and i i learned a lot about that out there because, I mean, I caught a lot of rabbits and squirrels early on, But there's no fat on them. you off flies away and you're you've never scouted this place before you didn't get to choose where

1:21:09 It's pretty clean. now when you said you drank a little bit that was to test to see yeah just to see if i'd get mildly Yeah, yeah. So how many days did it take you before you got an animal? know because there's not enough fat yeah because you're definitely eating more fat than you are and thought, Somehow I hadn't woken up, but Wolverine's a lot slyer animal and he had

1:24:25 Where is he? Yeah, yeah. That's pretty dope. Yeah, I really should have. Yeah, yeah. And they're so durable. They're so ferocious. Yeah. How do you know what skunk tastes like? Yeah, they're coarse under their veins. storage cache. Yeah. When a dark day, I'll eat that. And you run out of moose if it really does and once I lose that, now I'm at a disadvantage again.

1:27:49 I thought about firing an arrow in there, but I was like, Sure enough, he scurried down this hill, went behind a bush, and it just gave me enough time to grab my yeah no it was it was did you film all that too yeah but it was at night so it's kind of grainy I remember like I'd been out there for a few weeks and I came into like this beautiful woods in Siberia, you know, and I remember being like, wow.

1:29:45 Oh, that was my voice, you know? So when they tell you, It varies. You have a thing that you like, it's the thing you would give up with, If you don't do that, then they'll come and probably see if you're alive still. there do you have a solar charger no no so but you know it probably wasn't a lot of sun up there I just set it up. So I just set my camera up, put it in that direction, and that's kind of where he came.

1:32:38 came near him no I like dropped between his legs he looked around I totally was just a perfect shot but it was 40 I paced it off afterwards 43 yards and it was just a perfect shot. But it was 40. I paced it off afterwards, 43 yards. Just like, ah. Yeah. They come from miles. And it's nice you can mimic their voice with your voice. So was it in the rut?

1:34:58 How did the other people survive? right from the bat like right when they dropped my helicopter off, the sea, building my shelter away from where moose might walk by so that I wouldn't blow up a spot, you know, like, yeah, building my shelter away from where moose might walk by Yeah, because a storm came in and they couldn't get out there. Did you know about it?

1:36:39 shelter burnt down and that was kind of the end for him. Wow, there's a girl. Yeah, then she cooks it up. It looks like a beef. So she almost made it. it yeah she did really well but uh some fucking ballsy people to do this yeah it's pretty intense you Wow. And I basically told myself, well, I can't quit until I finish this whole moose. eyes for the the wire a snare wire was one of the things i brought so i'd made like rigged up a

1:39:03 But after I did i kind 20-pound lake trout. That's not the thing I used on the show. Why barbless hooks? But they allowed you to, what pound test did you use? Yeah, it was very, very fun. it was cold i made this rabbit fur glove that where just the tip of my finger stuck out. Did you eat the fish guts at all? Oh, no kidding. All your fish you made into soup? Yeah, just to get all fish into soup, and then I would fry all my moose, basically. Oh, no kidding.

1:42:01 Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's kind of acidic. Man. Yeah, just for the extra boost. Holy shit. Oh, did it work? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Wow. That's so crazy to rely on a Leatherman, that little tiny ass blade. Yeah, but he got only so many items, you know, and I wanted the wire cutters, I wanted the little saw for crafting stuff, you know, so I figured if my worst problem is that I have a small knife to cut up a big game, I'll be pretty happy.

1:44:05 So that was only one. So what other objects did you bring? What is a farrow rod? That's like that sparker. You scrape it, and it makes sparks. Oh, so that's. Right there. Fucking James the best. Farrow rod. What is a farrow rod? 25. Yeah. Did you think about constructing allowed nine arrows only. Yeah. For snaring rabbits. gill net out of the paracord but i think that would have been useful wow it's crazy you only

1:46:09 You hang it in trees and the birds are pecking it. the wolverine out of the picture was there any other i thought man after i got the wolverine i I was like just praying like, oh, I think I made that up, right? It's tempting for sure. Man, talk about intense hunting, Joe. Yeah, yeah. And yeah, did the job. But I only hit one lung, so it was a long, you know, of course I was tracking it, lost track of the blood.

1:49:03 No, my spot must not Just slice it? Yeah. It was interesting to get into that mindset because you're just living. oh so healthy for you too when you're out there right yeah it's exactly what you're craving yeah wow and so when you had that stashed in your cash a must a lot of pressure must have been relieved like can I sneak in and try to get another shot but no way and it's like so I just waited it out

1:51:48 How close were you when you saw it standing up? It's not just regular bow hunting. I don't know if you've ever done that where I've hit a deer. They're built for survival, man. I was flying out on the airplane, and the lady wouldn't let me bring them on the plane I didn't have any of the locals numbered. but it wasn't huge. But the first one was a monster.

1:53:39 The young one that I shot was like a forky. absolutely i guess that's probably like all animals that are enormous in africa right No, it's not like you turn a bend, go around a corner, and you see one. and you realize this is how this thing's species has been existing Like less than 100. Stole it from the bear. And it felt like, have you ever seen the ghost in the darkness that's what it reminded me of because it's like all this tall brush

1:56:37 He got the gun. And he's like, do-do-do-do. But they have like a whole ritual when they shoot a bear. But although you can if you boil the heck out of it. Oh, did he? Did they get rid of it, I imagine? Yeah, gnarly. used to it it's creepy man because when you uh i haven't experienced this but i know that some Yeah, that's one of those things, right?

1:59:27 brown bear big old brown bear i mean it wasn't an old one it was probably it's hard to say but Well, and happy people. like you just keep raising dogs until you get one that likes to go after Yeah, mutt-looking things. It's like not an envy. And they're eating just mush? Incredible animal dogs are. I'm like, get the fuck out of here. How much do you weigh?

2:02:20 Yeah, yeah. won't stumble you know and make it across this river, pull up on the other shore. You know, that was like the initial catalyst for why I thought about, I wonder if something like that would be able to be revived, you know that's what that was like the initial catalyst for why i thought about i wonder if something like that would be able to be revived you know now after you've had all these

2:04:30 and like anything that keeps you connected to, you know, about earlier that oh yeah yeah yeah that looked like it really i should i should get in touch with There's definitely hard skills, all the hard skills. wanted to prepare to go uh there's a few things that would be really helpful one you need to And I see that the people who lived through that came out joyful people somehow.

2:07:14 And so how do they get that resilience You don't want to have a lot of skeletons in your closet. And, uh, so that's like combing through and making sure you're just mentally, everything's in order, and what's practical in the woods. When you have those people come out for survival school, what do they bring with them? And how many people are there at a time?

2:10:32 Learn a whole new set of survival skills real fast. Yeah, I mean, you would imagine if someone was a real psycho. Do you do a background check on them right now? It'll be cool. You don't have to go out there and starve for a week. One of the things I want to do now, I feel like I got a little more freedom want to go over and kind of check on that project see how they're progressing see if they're

2:12:45 or restoring buffalo herds, all that kind of stuff to me is pretty exciting. I appreciate you having me on. I appreciate you, man. I love it. I love it. I love it. I love it. I love it.