Joe Rogan Experience #1498 — Jon Stewart Transcript

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0:00 Hi, Jon Stewart. It's my office now, and I'm here with the bunny and the guinea pig and the rat. I was really tied to that rhythm of the 24 hour news cycle. I needed a fresh perspective. Like this is a rigged game and you're out here pretending like this shit makes you know kayfabe it's a sort of like there are characters you know what it's like when you're

2:53 or as deep as you might want it but you might kick it up a notch anyway because it was performative view my time on the show as um and i'm not being self-deprecating i just mean you know when you And knew that you didn't really have that in you at times or just that's a bar that was beyond, you know, you really did just want to help your staff get through it more than than anything else.

5:32 certain point hmm you rage against it but over a period of 16 years if you running the country and if enough people have actually asked for that you just know there's a kind of what he was doing like he was trying to make some sort of an impact but it just kept not working it it's like to actually get a real turn it's so hard it's so everything stays the same no matter

8:47 it has to be channeled into something lasting and meaningful and we have to diagnose And it just seems like there was also a lot of frustration during the bailout period of the COVID crisis that all these corporations were getting so much money. you're in a pandemic right and tens of thousand people are dying and then we say to ourselves while overvaluing investment it's such a good point it does i don't think we can have

12:02 and not need food stamps like that's where we're And can't afford to bunker down. to what a great, uh, But I signed up for that, Or you fucked up and you wanted to be a carpenter. we were saying oh my god we have to protect ourselves from this viral Right. doing anything yeah we haven't addressed the hole that exists from being 150 years removed from

16:48 but he wasn't an angel. They're not memorials to the dead. something about it for 100 still think to this day pull their pants up and uh talk different you know they wouldn't have such a hard time hey why don't It's a dangerous narrative whenever you blame people for their circumstances, if their circumstances are grossly out of their control and really severely limit their progress.

19:39 infrastructure and the government and the housing and all the all the different things that get paid I play by the rules. We built a great middle class in the 50s for white people. My perspective was, if you just looked at it this way, if you could give, let's just that have been fucked for decades you want you don't want that you don't want a better world

23:07 in is going to stimulate the economy. They all do it. We don't have a free market. The So $1.5 trillion tax cut, right? You know you're a fighter. We're trying to do this thing for veterans from Iraq and Afghanistan who've gotten sick from burn pits. They're basically camping out in an toxic waste dump, right? Right. hung out to dry yes not kind of very much so um but you know the ufc uh had a program back in the

28:22 care for life no they don't no they don't you've got a care for life. No, they don't. No, they don't. You remember the whole... It's bonkers. Like these soldiers literally had like irradiated tar on their boots. and they're always told the same thing. died of lung cancer and she lived near there yeah i don't doubt that it's related it could be related but it's many people

31:01 Everything you could possibly imagine from a pulverized building jesus they're sending them off to potentially die if they come back alive we you know we do our they you're removed from your unit and if you're hurt that's even further isolating you know uh and in And they do the opposite. police reform whether you're talking about impoverished communities that are stricken

34:00 you've got to work on these other problems too. So they come in and they pump billions of dollars into the organizations that sunk the fucking ship in the first place. doesn't that fix your derivative problem? Don't you, haven't you just made, and plus then people You're rewarding them for that. Oh, yeah. suddenly that thing's not underwater anymore it's like putting ballast into a ship that's sinking put the ballast in the ship comes up rather than just saying all right we'll buy you another

37:41 analogy sucks because like there's nothing to do man you can't My rent or my mortgage? But attack the problem at its core, which is people's insecurity about they're unemployed. And for the landlords, I'm not trying to dick them over like give them some kind of uh rent a real estate tax break or some operating expense or a it's such a difficult time too politically because the the ideas get segmented into left or right right like even the ideas of

40:39 You're going to wear a mask. of like a great drummer that he loves oh yeah yeah i Yeah. I took it up, but he's really good. But, God it's, And, you know, anybody that creates content's you know it exists it's the content factory and you know anybody that creates content you know then that goes out into the world and look they're looking for what women think? So he had ESP. Twitter and the internet is just, we all have developed ESP and

43:13 Are you on Twitter? Do you have a Twitter account? worst self-critic, so I don't need other people yelling at me. I know what I did wrong. I stay of looking at the world and if you want to exist in conflict in perpetuity stay on twitter and stay like what you do in terms of conversation like you basically say you know i'm going to do long form because that you know feels like at least from my perspective

45:56 at that the center and they're yelling at each other and then you cut conquering the stage yeah it is about being open and is that something that for you I started interviewing actual interesting people and talking to them and having conversations and not I don't you know That's all I'm trying to do. ramble too much where it's boring you you got to figure out how to juice things up and push them

49:17 and this also speaks to the value of criticism, ride and that's that's what really good stand-up is i mean it's one of the reasons why dave was communicating and i had to learn how to i learned how to be a better communicator really but also how to be authentically you because there is now like i think the best i was a young comic and i just done letterman i think i'd gotten like a big break. And so the guys at Nick's booked me on that run to be headlined my first run on those Nick's properties.

52:09 I think it was Lenny Clark, Kenny Rogerson, and Sweeney. late 80s and the early 90s that was the place to be it was a great place to develop too though because it lets you know i mean you never want to be overconfident it's one of the like why the fuck are you talking like if you're not on and you know there's real valuable lessons You kind of make sure that you're not coasting on maybe some goodwill that

54:47 And you're going on after all these murderers. to the clubs anymore so it it almost feels like old-timers day when i show up like So I'd leave my house, and my set wouldn't be probably until 11. i don't know if i know how to do it anymore it's gonna be very strange i think houston is like you doing the opposite you remember michelle obama tried to do like

57:43 when you see what this does to people with type that can be implemented. And we really need to talk to people about just being normal stuff, five minutes and everything's good you know it's a really difficult it's like hierarchy of needs you know uh how do you health magazine he's ripped and he starts talking about fitness you're like get the fuck out of

1:00:46 who actually stuck to a diet, actually stuck to an exercise routine, and then speaks really I'm a person who is weak just like you. But does that, you know, the thing that I worry about those sometimes is, similarly that can that we should concentrate on that because i think it'll have a significant improvement on the overall health of us again as a community and i think

1:03:01 But obviously eating is such a personal experience that I hesitate to ever impart that in The more weight you lose up to a certain point, It doesn't mean that we should ignore people that are overweight and and there's nothing i can do i just hug them when i see them and you know i hope that one day they You're right. You're right. Look, I have very good friends that are morbidly obese, and they don't want to listen, and

1:05:42 It's all pointless. I look at the body like a battery, And we carry around all the burdens in our body of this past. Like you said, we're hunters and that. qualm with help with hunting because i know the reality of the life of a deer if you don't kill that deer it's going to die a horrible death from a wolf or a coyote or a mountain lion or whatever

1:08:35 rescue and these types of things and we ended up with a farm with pigs and goats and sheep and things like that. And it became untenable for me to make that decision. Um, I mean, I'm an old Jew, so baseline pretty much, uh, we don't age well to begin with. But, I mean, it's hard to know I feel good, you know, unfortunately and that's one of the reasons why people have such a hard time quitting sugar and

1:10:54 And I also think it's an incredibly emotional topic. local farming and agriculture because those are the people they're just growing their food So it would be actual meat that doesn't come with death, It was really expensive at one point in time, essentially flesh, that leads to uh protection of wildlife habitat is actually the money that comes from hunting tags and hunting equipment. There's that. There's also the type of relationship you have with your food

1:13:51 It's hard to find a good parking spot. high ground position you know i think a lot of people love to look at the moral high ground of eating It's a wild, wild thing out there man and i think we're in a box and two weeks later he flies away and you're a hero but i never really ascribed like I'll talk about the pigs and they'll be like what you know they're where they just eat everything you're like no they're really

1:17:22 Their health. If you're eating an animal that's a wild animal, you're eating an athlete. your farm like of course you can't eat those things they're your pets that would be i mean And that's been, that live around them now i'm not suggesting that there's not economic there's an economic to the systems that we use to gain wealth and to gain power. after George Floyd has been so transformative.

1:22:12 In these terrible times, how do you remain hopeful? Sometimes we may act out of fear or resource garden, whatever that is. Listen, man, I always enjoy talking to you. Irresistible is out when?'s do it, brother. Take care, my friend, and good luck with your film, Irresistible. It's out when?