Joe Rogan Experience #1542 — Cameron Hanes Transcript

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0:00 the joe rogan experience train by day joe rogan podcast by night all day and i thought i'd read some other shit about activists getting arrested for lighting fires They're mad at me for something that... Well, somebody did get arrested for the Molotov cocktail. that dude in portland the guy that shot the trump supporter yeah that guy's a crazy person yeah he's

2:15 they had been I don't like when I repeat shit that's not true. you know, it's just, it's kind of embarrassing to just, because I understand people have an and throw them into the lobby, It's a crazy time. And so then they're like, we got to burn this system down. This, I don't know, it's really hard to support just destruction. Oh, Oh, I mean, Eddie Bravo was right about a lot of stuff.

5:00 well, do the elites run the country Yeah. There is a Bilderberg meeting, right? in your lane i try to stay in my lane but i do have thoughts on other things. And we were talking about like, if you even look at the movie 300 and gladiator, like the old time, the, the weird, they would say You have to be, like, deeply embedded. i would imagine that that's the case with almost any big business like that's why guys get together

7:27 There's a lot of beautiful trees and beautiful warm water. Yeah. being a moron like i am being responsible for steering the ship and you know your livelihood my lane just talking nonsense but he's obviously connected to business he's a huge businessman and how everybody's involved in his operation, basically. But Jared Kushner wasn't qualified, the omen well whatever he did it was good come on son look at that yeah look at him and look at

10:59 him well whatever powers he's used it it worked out good for this treaty it's just got good Smooth skin. Everything's smooth. pretty scandalous right that thing where thing where someone got fired because Biden forced it through. We're doing that soon. Yeah. They don't know nothing. Jared Kushner. So the lions were out hunting hard. Everything stopped because of snow and this cold temperature came.

14:23 beautiful animal to die i do understand that but you kind of need understand that you wouldn't want a beautiful animal to die i do Elk calves could hide better. And this year was down in the teens because the grass was, they couldn't hide. creatures they live in the snow they live in cold weather in the mountains they live solo they hunt but they're i love that they're there this is the thing about predators it's like i don't want to

17:58 he just texted or sent me a message on instagram of the ivory. So that's the back teeth of the bull. I mean, we stay outside one time that never eats meat, obviously, They have so much food. They're trying to reintroduce wolves to Colorado. No. I'd like to have a biologist sit down and talk to, like a biologist who's pro reintroduction of wolves, Let's get them back in where they used to be.

20:05 And then, so we'll have a carrying capacity of this many wolves. Well, so once the wolves are where they promise that like they have a number like if we have 2,000 Yeah. Well, places where they exist, they have a different perspective on them. the airport yeah i'm a wolf hunter yeah and i go why do you hunt wolves like what are you hunting up and they're like nope i know what that is yeah it won't come anywhere near it he goes you'd be

23:48 Yeah, I mean, Colorado's Denver and Boulder. And it's, yeah, I mean. so that people will come up there to hunt. we can and you know big game animals are a resource they're a resource for the states that place up there alberta yeah or i'd say sorry alberta whenever we've gone up there um in canada And there's always a hope that you'll see a wolf and it'd be nice to get an arrow in one.

26:29 care of themselves in some sort Like there's things that people will accept, like deer hunting. No. out in the woods and you don't have a gun and you're hiking and you realize you're being stalked That thing is just slowly moving towards him and trying to figure out whether or not it could eat him. No. To make it growl, to make it mad, we gave it meat and then took it away. So it was very upset it didn't get the meat.

29:17 amazing how big was it it was tall i mean i'd say it's probably 120 130 pounds i guess but they're a lot taller than Look, look at that. it had a little piece of rope on it have you ever heard the john dudley story that he told on the Yeah. Because John only uses a four-arrow quiver. him and he drew back for that one and then he took off and then the whole pack just took off with

31:49 a couple i'll just grab a couple bullets put in my pocket and then here they are out in this And we were up in the tree trying to kill another bear. just kind of ride out the darkness. It's like their special animal. that's not a thing we should do. Sure. Yeah. Yeah. I'm not saying he's wrong, but he's into what's called rewilding. He was like urban, doing the normal city thing in England and got really into the idea of wildlife

35:23 It's also what you train for, which i first met you and i was like why you've done it for years. I mean, like on these last hunts, I pretty much have an arrow knocked. would result in as far as success but people don't realize that just i mean you know what I don't know. like this edge is moving towards that edge, like what is that? Yeah. And to get up there and then the only good thing

38:44 essentially what it was. And that recovery is all related to how good a shape say if for human but uh so she was in estrus means she's a hot cow i mean those bulls are like okay I don't know, but I don't want to be wrong. So I shot the bull, never moved. And it was already I mean, it didn't look good. It is life in the wild. This one, I'm guessing it was the night before.

41:27 haven't heard them if you hear a bull bugle at 20 or 30 yards you can't believe how loud that is it yeah screaming alone it's like when you're near it yeah they sound like something from lord up and do this again tomorrow drink out of a cooler meanwhile they're out there surviving It's a gorgeous mountain range. that's part of what it looks like yeah really looks like the um yeah like that right there

44:46 Look, this guy killed and he doesn't run a marathon a day or whatever that people want marathons and all this crazy working out, there has to be something to what you're eating. There people are hearing this oh this guy's full of shit no no no no a marathon a No, a marathon a day. You've run multiple marathons in a day. and then you lift weights. amazing things. And it's like, I've, that's why the people who you've had on this podcast

47:25 always want to connect with those people like Goggins, Courtney DeWalter, been running with It's weird, too. It says, we estimate I slept fewer than four hours during my 105 hours on the Colorado Trail. Go to that one weekend of Bernie's. But right after this picture, So it was going to be three minutes or nap right here then back up and that's resets your body i mean it reset it's like a control

50:46 that was because of the coughing and lung issues and the high altitude and i was going to say is animals will push look how fucked up she looks yeah she looks so tired yeah They literally could push themselves to the point where their heart stops. He's like, bro, we're done. into a very small percentage of what your body's capable of like even goggins what is his quote

54:09 yeah that was the first one he did right earlier in the year before it was four hours four miles I love him. training for a marathon or getting ready push, I don't even, I mean, it's not like I'm, I can say I do that every time either, but it's like It's like, so I want to know how can I take whatever mindset they have, apply it to myself It's just how she is.

56:49 on earth but in my mind you're you're in that group what is talent like if you're that good Just freak athlete. Yeah, there's things that people get that you are never going to get Courtney's you know the the eight seven days crazy Emma's the three thousand meters and I was Look up. That's crazy. um what a weird event you make them jump over a fence into a pond yeah that's so bizarre

1:00:31 And I was asking her about, because there's always a decision. because that's what fascinates me. like her her brain is so focused in on that time that nine minutes where it's just like and so it's I mean, like everything is like so regimented because you don't want sprinting when you're exhausted. my night. This isn't my event, whatever. And just a little bit less. Oh, just so this decision on

1:03:15 Oh, she almost went right there but didn't. That was 2014. there but see how controlled and like fluid she is and this is so fast god damn and so she went Courtney and her husband, Kevin. distance but she runs so much faster you know five miles or whatever but for me running five miles at 10 000 has the same talent. no that's not it oh just a slow motion version of it oh yeah i think this yeah this was a couple

1:06:51 and then she'll lift, I believe, three times a week. so crazy about your goal in life like what you do the thing that you concentrate on the most is for short spans but if you can just keep doing it keep grinding keep grinding keep hammering And goes through, breaks down my hamstrings and calves and hips especially. with your hands right there's a girl who does my massager name's aaron she is so amazing i mean i

1:09:32 there's levels to everything. did you pull your hamstring? If something happens with those, you're training. That's the other thing. That's bananas. Yeah. you did it then with with jeans on i remember seeing the video yeah nowhere on 52 years old Let's get going. and say, hold on, let me warm up first. I can still do all those things but i haven't been injured yeah that's the difference yeah i mean's, I don't know. Are you taking CBD at all? Yeah, sometimes.

1:12:37 And it's from kicking, you know, just from, because you're always like pushing off. eating candy oh those uh cbd md gummies are like 1500 milligrams i just chuck like fucking 10 of them down at a time Oh, well, I'm going to get up high first. Both of them are going to get high. We're going to do mushrooms. I'm going to bring in a shaman. It's hilarious.

1:14:39 I bet he'd lose a lot, too. thing he um trump said he wanted to do a drug test before debates really Really? Yeah. No. What does he think Biden's on? It's sad. You did it. You can't be at the top of your game when you're 80. And then Biden winds up being the guy. They're banking on people saying, well, she's young and healthy. to protect not to protect the government from the people that people from the government from

1:18:14 win an election i think it's in north carolina but he mentioned something about the age of Who's 70? 26. covid no edward rutledge wow well no they're counting his death as COVID guaranteed. special if you had a letter like that god i know the way they communicated back then was just they're a little more we're a little more diabolical now, though. Or even the access to the tools to write.

1:21:24 Yeah, I mean yeah i think people we're still going by the doctrine they came up with. You don't have it with you? Okay. And I was like, what? I mean, do you know how many people die every year from drug overdoses? Yeah. really weird it's like people say things just because And the guy was like, you're trying to take away guns. So what happens It's the first time I've ever heard it.

1:24:59 Dog Face Pony Soldier. and he knocked out victor ortiz when they were kissing or whatever they did. Floyd Mayweather was like, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. I mean, you can make an argument No. and he's an enormous man. He's got real wrestling skill. Did he go to college? He knows everything about Ohio. And a wrecking machine. I mean, Paulo Costa is a monster.

1:28:02 Yeah. i saw you know i know he lost his boxing match. Yeah, he's got to be, compared to Logan, tiny. Imagine what the crowd would do. Fuck it. yeah it could be more i don't i don't think't think Floyd walks around at more than 155 pounds. But here's the crazy thing. Yeah. Roy Jones Jr. is posting some shit on his Instagram. and all I'm finding them is like play sparring.

1:30:59 going to be one of the most ridiculous things ever though if you can get a youtube star to to box the literal best boxer What do we got? Hmm. Show me some wrestling, bro. At least there. Maybe I'll find it. that video right there there's this video he's smart Imagine if Floyd goes 50-1. He's training with Shannon the Cannon Briggs. Does he? Yeah. Oh, yeah.

1:34:20 That's not how it works. Just put up some new stuff. He's still got hand speed. I mean, God damn, dude damn dude yeah his hand speed is phenomenal Yeah. a fight the day he had a full basketball game so he had a full basketball game played like he played like a semi-pro basketball and then He had a weird body, man. Bro, his biceps are his biceps are bananas they're bananas and he had

1:37:15 Incorrect. You know, Fedor did it for a long time. i'll say jones looks fast i found it for you oh here oh look at this look at this deep on reddit And Paulo Costa's a beast, dude. I knew it was real. yeah and smashed of all time Because obviously, when you see the Tyson training footage, he's still got that speed. i was telling you yeah this new studio there's a certain distance this uh this table's a certain

1:39:56 And he was so... i really enjoyed it and then the next time was when he's fit and slimmed down. Yeah. yeah Trump put that on his Twitter like you want to come when you're you're beating people up it makes sense and it's mike tyson That we widen the table? like what what happens if roy can move away from him what happens if roy could avoid avoid the

1:42:39 watch this recent one that's when he thought i think i made a mistake maybe but the fact that Yeah. And I remember him, when he was on his hands and knees No, he, I can't imagine he's going to dial it back. Yeah. In Vegas after fights. Did we eat there? touched a boxing glove fireworks not me Jones apprehension Yeah, you see that? It's so interesting for me to see.

1:46:03 Everything. He goes, I don't want to do that. What I remember is seeing some of those clips of him punching lately work right and the back's not completely blown out like especially if and i don't know what the there was a video look at this mike tyson gets more ripped with each intense training video This is where I saw I'm sure I did. Both had that sort of bobbing and weaving style.

1:49:24 If Tyson's like, look inside, you and how bad i want it if tyson's He's a Muay Thai trainer. I wonder why he went with him. Cuss D'Amato. He probably would have been even greater than he was. but we also talked about how Cuss hypnotized him really oh yeah man when he was young cuss hypnotized him and that was uh part of his uh Yeah. many fights this guy have oh he's only had two fights kids had like 30 fights right and so they'd

1:52:28 And he's giving this kid information and talking to this kid about what he can accomplish and That was when he was 19. no matter what you do but those guys still been knocked out well listen yeah listen yes they do And he's a big giant. fury story though too it's amazing i mean yeah what a comeback yeah the fact that he was like Yeah. Oh, God. Well, and then coming back and using that guy from Kronk, Sugar Hill, right?

1:55:53 him to sleep he hits he hits guys and it's like what happened like they got shot with a sniper So I'll go Logan Paul, Mike Tyson. I can't imagine that happening. Yeah, it's a fight game. yeah it's weird how do you i mean do you like doing ufc with no and then you know the coach will there'll be a camera on them and we'll listen to the corner while they're giving instructions.

1:58:23 So I don't know how many, but it lines up with the NFL schedule Yeah, so they'd be all spread out. You know, people get drunk, they can watch football. Hopes that fans will be able to attend. Man, I don't know. Everybody wears masks. And that dude, Kamzat, I don't know how you say his last name, Chimaev. But Gerald Mearshart has got a lot of experience, man.

2:00:27 Kevin Holland in the headliner there's no doubt about it Shut him down, outlasted him, and then wound up beating Colby up in the final round, Yeah. He's a destroyer. Yeah. He's a fucking animal. And he's an animal that wants the belt. And he a tough kid. He's a fucking animal. Yeah. He's a fucking animal. And we were talking about Michael Chiesa. Right.

2:03:36 He was starting a rap career. And then you drop down a little bit. And at the end of the day, there was also Holly Holm, getting to be the best I mean you know him well we should tell people yeah you've trained with him And I think that training with you also, when, you know, when you took that dude running It's P-I-S-G-A-H. Pisca. There's no G in there.

2:06:24 Okay. Pisca. There's a that's a k i'm just saying that And someone like you who does that grind every fucking day, Yeah. And that's where he's been obsessed with getting. back then because this was the fight where frank shamrock outworked him oh and frank shamrock wound was smarter, just had a better Yeah. you're tired yep all sudden of him and gilbert wound up winning basically every round but tyrant never looked for a way out he kept trying to win that fight yeah gilbert was a step ahead of him and gilbert wound up winning basically every round but tyron never looked for

2:10:30 And he was like, I was trying to take him out. that that wasn't me yeah but so so how do you do that how do you go to a fight and that's not you mind when you're running for three days in the mountains yeah but there's something about people don't have it right you know and that's what i saw with tyron woodley i never saw any quit there And Tyron does not want to lose three fights in a row.

2:12:54 This is your ass kicking. When he, if and when he wins the title, I want to get him in here. He's charismatic. And he starts talking bad shit. Yeah. that looks good it says legalize being black. What? He looks really, it's a crazy fight, he it was it was a career saving move that turned him into a star yeah and out of nowhere i i look like to talk all that shit and then go and fight pressure on yourself

2:16:34 People do that. It was legendary. know he's a big thick dude so get up in here and and get on top of guys and push them up against Green, who is a world-class Yeah. That's hilarious. You said you're scared to get hit, you're European Yeah Oh, God, those punches are stout. He didn't have big cams. Yeah, I remember that. Yeah. Any kind of video on Instagram or what have you where you can watch them and you get you get fired up

2:20:52 But inspiration's nice. Like I love the fact you're always putting the Sorenix Lab on Instagram Outlaw Strength, that's right. I want to see motion. his own like lack of motivation is that where he said he videoed himself yeah being a being a bitch yeah he goes i sound like They kind of put in some work, and then they pat themselves on the back. They've talked about Truett doing pull-ups.

2:23:35 pull-ups yeah yeah that's a lot of pull-ups his motivating factor was Goggins I mean he's all The Goggins pull-up, like what Goggins' record was for pull-ups, And he was doing pretty good, but he started to fall behind. i think and when apollo had rocky hurt and then rocky gets up and apollo had his hands up and few years ago he was a a boy now he's this big savage man yeah yeah he's uh and he's a ranger

2:26:18 and it's a butterfly effect, and it'll pass on. And it's wind. Yeah. i think for the most part i feel like i owe it to roy to give the best i have every day i think about him often people don't some people don't know who roy is yeah roy is my hunting partner to die so um to me you know it's and I've talked about this before but even I've had a lot of

2:29:00 of negative aspects of social media but there's's some positive aspects, too, that are undeniable. Because he used to. He goes, I like shit talking. sometimes people wanting to prove people wrong yeah sometimes that's uh that's good yeah and And next thing you know, you hate yourself and you're 35 and you don't know why. and he's got these uh crazy videos of him doing kicks see if you

2:32:33 Yeah, watch this. lot of these he's just really talented really skillful but he had to do a video he's definitely fought MMA. They must be a compassionate vegan. Or that they're showing you that, you know, they're there to stand up for the animals. How many animals get ground up when they're using the combines? Like you personally for the food that you eat are causing a small amount of damage.

2:35:26 like gold and then you got people judging you that are you know have a double bacon cheeseburger It's like, Oh, this is what I do. you've got a task in front And they talk shit. and this sloth that from last year from my last year's hunt i'm like do you know how hard that is to do it's so difficult just to keep your nerves together when you're, when you see that arrow boom go right into the pump station you're like

2:39:30 um feeling good smiling to then the death of the animals we walked up and it's a complete And you think about that and a lot of people, It's these but who's a lineman, Kevin Akers, he's a lineman for PGE, hardworking guy, manual labor. We just love all the time. and that was a bull had moved so we were like okay all right now i could go kill so i come to full draw on the bear and it like looks through the blackberries

2:43:30 And there's, so I had a bear tag, a mountain lion tag, And I look up over the blackberries up on top of the ridge. So I took off my boots and snuck up there. I was 55 yards from him and he was just laying there it's as you say you've just achieved this this goal that i don't even know it's so hard to I mean, it's less than 1% of hunters. change. And, um, I think people do it just like you, you know, now, cause now you've done it,

2:46:28 You're seeing 22 minutes of something that probably took many, many days. but you can pull it off yeah there's no fucking way you're going to be able to pull off a long Because especially, I know there's a few fighters that have gotten into bow hunting. And there's, and there's also not knowing exactly when to hurry, when to slow down, You know, and that's what leads ultimately to success.

2:49:16 It's all these things together. i'm excited to do it i've already got ideas i'll tell you after i'm done i don't want to tell you