Joe Rogan Experience #1548 — Roy Jones Jr. Transcript

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0:00 The Joe Rogan Experience. You've been one of the best people that I could hear talk about me since day one. Thank you. gonna survive and how long Your movement was off the charts. Before CompuBox. Since No, there was a time where I always said, like, people would say, You had such a strange style, man. young. So I would watch the roosters all the time because roosters develop

2:58 What made him better than the rest? So when he fight, he do a lot more faking, a lot more faking, But that's God-given. You feel me? You bring another Impossible. That was terrible. kid 19 years old he defeats his rival clearly and you rob him it really eliminates the integrity of It was a blessing in disguise. But he said, But then I also realized that not only were the judges not necessarily,

6:35 It wasn't a question. the blessing uh above all for me because to me it was god's way of making me not put my life on idle to be your equal or above you that's when you're really doing it now people maybe people don't know well that didn't try to be necessarily what the case was, He's big as heck they said well we got more attention than we expected to get and this happened and that

10:06 with me but his chance is still gonna be rough but it's gonna be better than it would have been So do you have young guys that fight in your style? defense, you know footwork, Your style required extreme physical attributes, though. it's not all athleticism. There's a or every setup to the knockout before it happened. there's a lot of freak athletes of course of course you had freak athleticism as well as like

12:51 Yeah. I know. I always tell people, you had crazy biceps but small triceps. let them do whatever their style is and just teach them what you know about boxing i take whatever Whatever God has given you How are you ramping up your buddy get in a little shape because you are going there with mike tyson yeah you don't know you think about it. Oh, it's an exhibition, but we got

15:42 No, he doesn't have that in him. When you watch him spar, his sparring was fights. Nothing exhibitionist about it. No, he doesn't have that in him. When you watch him spar, his sparring was fights. When you were the heavyweight champ, when you beat John Ruiz. How much did you weigh when you fought Ruiz? I've been up to 220. But Mike's size don't really matter.

17:30 but I was going to add a little bit to it because I was also super middleweight champion, I did a part of what he did, entertaining guys you want to see because you never know what he's going to do and it's the someone told him that i was offered 40 million to fight mike tyson no i wasn't if i was offered Y'all call me, tell me what day I'm They would have offered me for me to fight.

20:01 But I'm just saying, I'd be willing to clear it up because I was not offered money to fight Mike back then. Can I win the heavyweight title? That's the difference. Because if you look text me and call me and tell me, you know, I was a fan. pounds ripped down to 175 and then competing i mean you you must have cut an extreme amount of came back yet and i and i didn't have nothing mentally to get there i was just doing because

22:33 But, I mean, hey, it's boxing, you know. body well that's what people fail to realize now i hear kids talk about we couldn't make weight or I fought that night. 7.30 the next morning, I got all the way down to 148 and a half. I know it was God talking to me. So if you make the Olympics at this weight, much weight and going down and you hear about these guys sometimes they get

25:43 a good argument that that's better and when you look at boxing there's so many weight classes. But there's a good argument that that's better. We've got to go. That's go. We'll cut out some of these And I knew I was going to outgrow the weight class. somebody that the world knew, Abel Sanchez. Canelo went all the way from 54 to 75. You feel me? So, you tell me he was a bomb.

28:09 I ran like three miles, and I came home, and I said, thinking like, damn, like he is so fast. I know. But he was no bum. Right, yeah. every aspect of boxing so that you understand some guys because you're tall you're gonna have his entire career yeah who was it that knocked him down i'm trying to remember the name Oh, yeah. IBF and WBO. but why not make every champ have to fight one another to find out who is the champ?

31:08 and I'm the man right now. I'd have had every belt at Light Heavyweight the NFC in football. And I didn't care what they was. That's why I used to tell them, y'all can call me. versus mugabe that was that again that was a good fight that was good yes he would but he wouldn't So disciplined. Yes. I got goosebumps just watching, like, just the discipline that man had.

34:03 I mean, he just was so, it was just so fierce you know as and I kind of gave it to him I'm done someone get out clean of course and have a new life after yes yes but for me for right you feel me so that's that's why and the fans he also knows how to play with the crowd And everything he did, he did it to such a high level that it made it look like he did defeat the odds.

36:36 not happening. Like right now, I'm mad I want to see them lock up, see who wins that because I love both of them. That was my other mega fight to me. at 168? to do it to Roberto Duran. He had that snap You know, and there was so much. he was and tommy hearns was an assassin killer assassin killer yeah the two of them getting They draw me a blueprint to follow.

39:56 You feel me? He wasn't on that team. now it's like we don't even have to time know who all made it to the olympics no one knows anymore Now, along the way, they find out that there was something at the Sochi Olympics you, what happened in the Beijing Olympics. There's no way. None. Nothing. money but they should distribute the money somehow but i mean come on you want the top

43:11 Yeah. They're making money off of it right now. And we got no crowd, so I came, look over there, Yeah, I got to have a few of them. Yeah, I got to have a few of them. I shouldn't be out there. Who's ever done that before? You had to get people to pay attention your legs to play basketball so your legs shouldn't be rested like they should be in a 12-round title

45:43 Do you remember when Jordan was, was it Hall of Fame? The all-time greats have to have a chip on their shoulder. and I had a father that I separated from that I know in my heart And in my life, the way I was taught, the way I was brought up, day I still speak to Charlie Campbell because without Charlie Campbell I might You understand me? So they learned the same thing I'm learning, but they can't have that kind of charisma

48:25 stuff he did a little bit of it until i figured out what it really was you understand me so some So I started copying some of it. And to me, these guys are older than me. No, I got to get that people that nature is also a bible right when a lion get a certain age is there to kick him out He was in control of everything. Why? His daddy ain't got a fight what right

51:42 what toxic masculinity and all that bullshit that's what I'm trying to tell you. That's what toxic masculinity and all that bullshit. Yeah. You understand me? Cause he ain't got no, The daddy. So this shows me he can't do it physically, than them. But in his mind, be that guy if you're gonna rule the world you ain't never seen a getting rude word and breeding

53:53 let my father make me a guillotine Because some trainers were fighters and they're tough guys. Yeah. cat. His dad told him they seen something and they knew what it took to get him there the fact that he told his No. No. but his son's Roy Jones Jr. Well, he don't talk to you to talk to him. me personally as a father, I couldn't handle that. You have to fight your way through the struggle of being dominated by your father to become your own man.

56:48 Yeah, indeed. It's a new feeling. One of the best people that I have known as far as being a Roy Jones person. So I wanted something big when I came here, and now we got something. yeah he more my size but i he look at me like I look at Mike he said oh he's too big well he fought some middleweights ready for Bernard that's And they're going to look at Roy Jones again first because Roy Jones do so much crazy stuff that he's like high in the world.

59:13 that are unbelievable. when you put your hands behind your back? From a rooster, too. So the kung fu movies, they got tiger style, crane style, all these, the toad, It really depends on how it goes because, you know, I'm like this, man. So in this exhibition, you got to prepare for the best you can prepare for. Hell, yeah, I want to do a real fight with my get back.

1:00:53 You feel me? if we have a straight up one this time is good, and we might call it a day. Because when you're the smaller guy because I talked to him once. him fat and then he started working he said i got on the treadmill started doing it for 15 minutes So anyway. So he's doing the right thing. I can't. At this point, the fans are so excited about it.

1:03:22 I'm going to have to work a little faster than I expected to. Yeah, they changed up on me about the week. so they want to cut it back to two-minute rounds. But they said they were so exhausted afterwards that they felt like that is what could inhibit somebody's health. But like I'm telling them, no, that's not right for me because I'm a smaller guy.

1:05:02 They said the commission is dropping it down to two-minute rounds. Well, I guess. want yeah i want it to be three minute i want to be three minute round it's safer it's safer for me And I'm going to say, I didn't want to be this person, I mean, I've heard so many people talk about it There's Roy Jones Jr. and there's RJ. thinking about or caring about what nobody thinks so is this do you think that this you develop this

1:07:42 mmm and once he start coming guess what he's just like a pit bull He got injured? I'm waiting for the referee to say stop. Hey, that was my first loss. Now somebody got to die. feel me right when he started talking now you make me be a person i don't want to be and i know i'm What you want me to do to him? That's why I try to tell people. did that affect you because a guy who was your peer who was a man that many

1:11:09 I was the only person. Nigel is just what he say he is, a dark destroyer. But I thought that he was going to end up losing to Nigel because of the fact that he would fight the wrong fight. Destroying people. He had some shoulder injuries up in the sideline. But the crowd made him do that. He probably should have gone up to light heavyweight Anything can happen at any time.

1:13:48 Same with the guy, the heavyweight that it happened to up in New York. he one of those guys that could do just that to you so you should know what you're going into Problem with me is why I love what I love and why I do what I do is because I love boxing. Right, I understand. Yeah, that's a great philosophy to have to go into combat so many amazing fighters of your era.

1:16:47 like right now a good fight that's on tap is to the fight tanks about to fight a good fight The guy Tank's fighting is just, forgive me, I don't know names. Mike is Crawford versus Spence I agree yeah I just amazed not making it happen I don't know way and then switch it up yep and you see like haggler used to do that haggler was a fantastic Yes, and that'll show us where he's at.

1:19:35 Then we should fight the Charlo brother to have a unification title. It kind of reminds me of what I kind of did, just dominate the area. Yeah, but to me that's not the thing that he needed to learn Meljik Taylor, too. no I'm not Yeah. because floyd is a smart guy floyd knows how to you know change up that's a good thing about floyd You see, that's the only strategy.

1:22:42 but he's an older fighter too. With Arizlandi Lara as he had with Floyd. So it's like that don't mean you got better. the floor fight i'm not going to say that necessarily he got better because he's going Styles make fights, right? And it's like, to me, I don't think Kovalev took the fight with the intent to win it. I didn't see the real Kovalev. Right.

1:24:57 to the boxer all of a sudden feel like he fought the wrong fight Right. I just don't understand it. Or was it just money and streaming, ESPN Plus? Fun stuff. just wanted to be or maybe people that bought them out this i don't know i really don't know It still hurts me to this day. look at a paper one time and remember that whole damn page almost word for it I believe it I mean I ain't

1:28:01 no I can't to my contracts over over, and my contract's not over until December. How did you become a Russian citizen? I never realized It's always like I tell people That you won't Don't get it wrong. No, it's not like that. We always talk about this racism stuff. They just brought it up to me. A guy brought it up to me. Yes. How much time of the year do you spend there?

1:31:34 stable of young fighters up and coming um Brian Pirello I think his last name You understand me? understand me if you can't block this hook you're not beating Roy. You understand me? If you can't block this hook, you're not beating Roy. and for you but my goal is to try to get it to all of them or get it in all of them's head, named James Wilkins. a channel and uh Tommy and Keller has a channel and his thing is he teaches

1:34:57 Your hands right one with guys hold the hands they hurt your hands, but he gives a lot of knowledge the most but my favorite fight of all time is mu Ali. Muhammad Ali, Muhammad Ali, And how to outthink your opponent with your mind They're like, your blood pressure's off the charts, man. I say, if you look at Muhammad Ali, you got to look at Muhammad Ali before they made him take three years off.

1:37:09 weren't boxing fans at all but when Muhammad Ali was making that We shouldn't live as individuals. That's a beautiful way to look at it. watch old fights over and over and learn what your favorite fighter did or what Yeah. He was pretty special. is a he's a fascinating human being and his mind is he has things that he focuses on and that's where you

1:40:29 What is the difference between training at 51 than training at 31? Right. I'd go all the time. feel it today we're resting get it tomorrow are you using any new school every ticket oh you can't do that no more so I couldn't do it but I really there's another lady down where I live, Dr. Depper. a regular sanctioned fight vada has already been to my house once vada yes so you can't be on any testosterone

1:43:08 You never stop moving. Yeah, they were dead. That's really the only thing. overdo it because you do too much a few people to help out. Yeah, there it is. high intensity, you know, like kettlebells and ropes. boxing skills still should have to be the priority you want to be in shape too And they were always super fit, but they didn't have the boxing skills.

1:46:07 super fit Arter Bitter Beef I love watching that guy fight One of the strongest powerful punchers I've ever seen. no matter what race they are. He's so jacked. These two guys can freaking punch, and they both can fight. You feel me? type fight right now right now i mean because there he is look at that motherfucker hey he's How old is he? I mean, that's what led Bernard Hopkins

1:48:09 They were like, he's too old. and asked me what should he do now reason to lie to you I did just like I told Tyson Fury that if he just took five years of his life He said, you haven't fully recovered physically from all the years of drinking Fight ends in a draw. Freaky powerful. with Sugar Hill, Kronk fighter before that, Kronk trainer, and had that super aggressive

1:50:46 That takes a lot of power away That's just the law of gravity. If you don't know that, No, no. i thought it was over i remember watching at home i went oh i'm gonna see the front of my bed going He knows how to go this way, but he never had to learn how to box and go that way. But if he came to you, what advice would you give to him? We learn how to operate with developing that left hand.

1:53:10 How much time would you give him? a hard time beating him again i should say but it'll take him six months would you want him what If you don't make him use everything as a unit, then it's not good for him. We know how to fix that too, but that's part of that jab. to reach out to was um i forget the guy's name lenares well lenares was about to fight lobo

1:55:08 Yeah. they're looking over and you're talking about them while they're fighting that's got to be a trip my them but also it's got to be so motivational yeah you know it is and I If you do that, you're doing the right thing. I think I'm allowed to go if I just have to take a COVID test and I can sit. Let's do it.