Joe Rogan Experience #1554 — Kanye West Transcript

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0:00 the joe rogan experience train by day joe rogan podcast by night all day And all this joy came over my body, just through my soul. And people were just like, oh, like their minds were blown. And I remember saying one of my responses to one of the people, But what was Oprah's rationale when she said, you don't want to be the president? at least somewhat which is an idea that people have thrown out at me to...

4:01 I believe that my calling is to be the leader of the free world. I mean, if it's in God's plan want to do differently if you were the leader of the free world well um well there was a couple I'm not coming here to down any of the other. that i think i'm different from i mean we're all different so i'm definitely different from things oprah said is she said you got a

8:26 so i met with um this gentleman sam uh one of the founders of y combinator so y combinator is a the world has just stopped for a second. And there's an opportunity to look and say, what are So record labels are afraid of saying, it's a confusing thing for people on the outside yeah so before when i told my father i wanted to I'm saying that in a way, everyone's responsible.

11:51 someone being raped you know that's the reason why i compare what's happening to in the music Like, music, like, at this point, it loses me money. industry the always fighting to you know represent you know who you are against media, entertainment industry that's trying to tear down anybody that's not going with the flow. Yeah, I mean, but I think about that anytime I go to the hospital.

15:27 the hospital it was in the weirdest place you know so what what did they not but for all artists it's not about me getting my masters back it's about it's about mini trillion and then i asked my a rhetorical question but the dumbest question i've ever asked with this innovation, you will be better than the person, you'll be better than your next door

19:21 And there's people who said it wasn't a church and different things. And I was four months in before I gave my life to God. ego and when you're doing things for me, this is like what I feel God is saying to me. Because it really irritates me when people say, like I just grew up on MTV in the 90s, and I love Mark Romantic videos. inside of the church stealing, doing different things, trying to just take them away, and God

23:52 Do this, you know, through this translation or the English version. Jesus. And it was through the mouth of babes, Like, this person, I'm going to listen to the for a lot of people it was the first album that they could play with a certain production level that's the only album they play and it's just bringing these gospel and I tell you like my And what that, have you heard soccer chants?

28:24 But picture 100, thousand people in unison and that feeling, And Donda is basically my version of like a cyber extension of my brain. and Aetna was the designer in The Incrediblesibles which is kind of almost really similar to Donda I'm just seeing these lineups and stuff kids this. People always make the kids version. I don't like this, the kids version thing. Kids need to understand how, what if the pandemic was,

31:33 I feel that they're part of still what Edison's idea was. all the same thing. these things that Da Vinci never completed. And we can look at all of these things and see how do we create the most primitive versions of this to create a fully sustainable ecosystem, which is, you know, what COVID actually helped us to, you know, get closer to our families, get closer to our children, understand like, oh, wow, that, you know, that was mapped out for us to be 50 minutes away from our home and our kids' school to be 30 minutes away and to put us in traffic

34:48 And, you know, money isn't, it's not even real. dark cloud. So, you know, God is using me and he has a calling, you know, in my life to make the But that's a city of angels. of a title okay well whatever the engineer you're you're deconstructing all of these things and you You have thousands of people that are chanting and singing along. a time where you get together

37:25 You've got this superstar musician who's doing this in this mass form with thousands and thousands of people in these gigantic areas. So talk me through how this starts with you. We need God, but he called me to serve him. And I was like, wanted to prove, but prove to who? uh my show and then it's like my like this like my head popped back and the spirit jumped out and

40:53 And it was, you know, a thousand black people in the show. coma and that was the album I was playing that day so that's the reason is robbed in Paris and so we we just because I'm I'm in the middle of tour while i'm doing the fashion show while a Black Panther. But, you know, when Disney makes Black Panther, now when you look it up, Maleficent, they called her race of people the Moors.

44:40 you know obviously if we just go on wealth period of what we call wealth like You know, no matter what religion you are, what we can agree on is it is always now. Like the most gangster gang of gangsters wouldn't go downtown. you against you you become your own uh you become your own worst enemy and i just went on a riff Like, if you look at the way

48:32 they've brought you to med how did that happen well well i'll say these two things i think things you said are crazy it's fascinating the way you think because i can see that you're thinking Have you always been this way or was you less, was it less manageable before? What sets our serotonins off? Like Maslow's hierarchy of need is like our satisfaction chart.

52:52 with shelters. Yeah. It blocks your pineal gland. And I said, I'm not going to take this. It's not a safe place. The main thing that it did is it destroyed my confidence. You didn't mean people being abducted and brought into slavery and put into chains was a choice. silicon valley wouldn't be what it is today if Steve Jobs didn't make that want to stop people from saying certain things.

59:06 It has to evolve and change. down i can self-medicate with exercise and meditation and You know, what I love is there was some perspectives that people showed about what a true manic episode really looks like after I was in South Carolina. I'm looking at a way to say this. I know what you're going to say. I felt like I was too busy You know, we have to decouple the conversation of Planned Parenthood and woman's choice.

1:03:54 then spread across the world to orphanages and africa and in china and just um uh across the Plan B, meaning the pill, meaning the morning after pill. And everywhere you go, you see someone with a mask on. The hurricanes still hit. The earthquakes still still hidden people are still suffering from that Time is love. but we have a competitive spirit. We like having a bad guy. We like having a competitor.

1:08:55 under, you know, a bridge in Calabasas. Because we ignored the homeless person sleeping in front of the Gucci store. We've got genius level scientists. All of these people who break away and then create the smartest people on the planet and make them work on the smallest things that won't change anything. the game of life and they've got something that they're going to do no matter what school they go

1:11:44 There's a lot of fears. It just has a mental management tool. worry yeah worry yeah anxiety that's that's what it is stress like it can kill you you can't be So it's hard to hurt that much ever again. there was a friend of mine that did like a really bad move where he tried to say, I thought we tied you up. and i'm sorry disney star wars design team i know you're gonna like put my face up in the

1:16:10 and Frozen Trillion before there's a new concept. And we've been stuck in a loop, like on Westworld. we plan it here and they would just do it to 70 they do it to 60 earlier when i had that point The program is done. he didn't let the older system tell him how to spend his money or how to show his money. It was up to him because he's his own king. but it's another frontier to being a king.

1:19:51 that fucks with your head. I still don't understand how they talked you into medication man i wish i knew or urban musician where he had to go and I'm urban and he came with Thriller. it and and i mean he died he died penniless at the end you know i'm not gonna say like he turned And you can make these in 25 minutes. And for the longest, we said, you know, let's, I've been saying I want to get rid

1:24:12 And that was a big thing because that's what we grow up. still go hungry? And I like that in theory, but I was like, man, farming is really hard though, from my memory but i got this whole the future that's in my mind that has to be brought so this but he designed full utopian communities. are way closer to a Kenyan village than it is to like a gated community village.

1:27:55 and they see a guy like you and they like try to find flaws they try to find things that are wrong I don't know if that would have worked in today's world with cell phones and all the different electronics and even you know modern air travel We feel like the internet is everything. We have to have shelter. imitation of Adam and Eve. at the same time. And it's like a father-son relationship. Because sometimes when the son

1:31:47 The good thing about the walls and the perception and all that is this, like, That barrier entry was so hard for him. It's like a corrupt industry also. through. But the rich people with the Hermes belts didn't want to lose their position so bad that they would rather wait in the first class line than to have the time back and go through that. Now, this gentleman is a surgeon that works on people's hearts through their feet.

1:34:18 How do you segue off of this when I just go into this? Do you have ritual? do you have yeah i i uh drive my children to school i drive my kids to school and i stay at school I work in tech I have all these like website ideas and tech ideas. We're supposed to be in the future by 2000. We have this opportunity to make life as fun as these second lives.

1:37:56 so did i answer the question of my schedule every day yeah but i mean you so you just basically go on what you feel like working Like when I take a meeting, how I know if it's a good or bad meeting, and it's across the street. And then we talk about afterwards, why do you think that's positive? You know, like if you have a meeting, right? The word is to ensure.

1:40:35 Look at these words. people we don't even talk like that like this is a skill set but i'm still talking white basically I said, Givenchy, I wasn't expecting to see him. And I have to decode. could see you know how i'm looking you can see my energy and the way i'm saying it too yeah so aren't carrying something already like some form of chip on their shoulder where they gotta like

1:44:10 of art it's it's a formula like two plus two is four let's put those together we'll make some and then the toys from Star Wars have not come out first which would be like and it was awesome yeah there's there's something about uh things that are pure But when it's the most pure, and what was the other one with the guy with the multiple personalities?

1:47:53 take a hot shower isn't eating soup and you know just how bad did you have it i don't think it was And, you know, everyone's like, you know, and I'm not trying to take any sides of like Republicans or Democrats. I'm just saying, why were people so much thinking that I was like a form of a pawn? And then the idea that, you know, liberals would say like, the funny thing is liberals, I think, and I'm, I don't know if I could classify myself as liberal, but I'm definitely kind of liberal elite.

1:50:07 that liberals who pride themselves on not being racist the nuance of institutionalized racism and this would be like somebody from the art world you I'm one of the greatest product producers that ever existed. I mean, The Gap was, market cap was lower than Yeezy. And I can understand why, because what is our opinion based on if we grew up thinking we were slaves?

1:54:21 I've simplified the design. was afraid of in 2000, But it's not about the money, as I said earlier. and you're not having that conversation, you don't have the control. checks you know i had people flying in and out. I had a consultant agreements, like people who weren't on the salary, but they were consultants. You know, you can do it. last year. And after the gap deal happened, my net worth went from $3.3 billion to $5 billion.

1:59:50 I went and bought a chain. wardrobe for Sunday service. And we would redesign t-shirts. And it says in the Bible that Jesus wore I literally was designing t-shirts for Sunday service like David working out in the field, to invest in me. Nobody invested in me. When I went to a wedding in San Fran with all these You're only a rapper. And a lot of times I don't like to watch these interviews back until about, you know, three, four, five years later.

2:03:06 Oh, he's crazy. Or it's just a black guy saying it. Or it's just a rapper. thoughts and ideas also that you'd like to have be a part of your interview well Listen, they do or they don't. It's not an if. crazy to your right so it proves in some way that But when I talk about the budget, raised to respect a penny. But as a black person, I've been raised to look down at a

2:07:19 Explain that. So that's why you became your CFO. I'm designing the kitchen, the way I'm delegating, the way I'm working, the way I'm being a better Like when I talked to the, when I was with the president of Haiti I mean, take ownership of the land that they have right now. See, honesty. They're going to need to, they're at a college town, they need to stop by this, you know, frat party and, you know, drink and do the, but when they're, you know, but you got to go here. So then you

2:12:23 all of the moms and dads have something Like, I don't know a lot of, yeah. project. When I went to, this is like the eighth wonder of the world, but I saw spaces that we can Somehow, the people who have figured out how to make a living off of art is- Yes. and there's all these things these sharp edges these corners these anxieties these fears these

2:16:06 One of our lead architects I've worked with since age 24, he built this home in Majorca with John Paulson. And he has like this golf course, which the acoustics are incredible, but it's this part where you can walk along that's 20 feet high. but you take that exact straight line and put it 20 stories high. just when we talk about this country, and then we ask them to go out into the world and try to manage this money and try to get a job that's going to pay them a fraction of what they owe for their education.

2:18:33 taste and I have the best taste on the planet I mean Quincy Jones it's a couple was alive and well and even at the same time in in the ghetto it was a living hell and we were being Because also I don't have, like if you were to ask me about COVID, I could only give you But Jack Dorsey decentralized Twitter two months before it really hit, because he was

2:21:48 as a compromise. the people on our side thought of us as three-fifths of man Yeah, England. don't even wear the vote t-shirt. sort of accepted and it subs it's all this subliminal stuff that's that's based on like But you know the problem? democratic socialist because he's got these ideas that are scary to capitalism you know what's funny mean it was a beautiful long symphony but there's a there's a cap on it there's a pop we don't we

2:26:38 And with that thought, I was like, Meaning, when I talk, I'm not talking for a conglomerate. or to do electric power. we're all a bunch of people that are together. population it's just it's an a giant part of what what it is to be a person is to to worry about are the our jobs there's a lot of that that affects us and puts us in those uh situations

2:31:17 have like i talk about the the guys at mit the greatest scientists in the world. There's people who are, the things is the silver bullet like what what I went through with the medication when they gave They want to keep you sick I think is the word. and I also went by and saw this other amazing school in Cody where they have autistic children and kids with special needs in the same classrooms as regular kids.

2:34:01 the principal and these guys, they talk maybe at a softball game or something health care yeah i mean in in some reality some financial realities that have to be in london Like I don't. There's no price on it, right? then they said the ladies looked at the nanny and said, And we are keeping ourselves sick we're all responsible like the black mirror episode we're all responsible in some way we all

2:37:17 and like click the thing I'm going to to our loved ones, our families, how close we are to our jobs. We got to experience a lot of this. And there's this like photograph where you're holding the guys, the little girls holding a teddy bear. more for me planned. I don't think they're going to come for me until he done with me. Yes, I do understand what you're saying.

2:40:29 spirit of everybody helping everybody. This is the spirit of Christianity. This is the good spirit of for the kingdom, look at me, look at me right here, working from the kingdom, not leaning Yeah. and where we're going. Does the meat industry have a great impact on the ozone? From what I hear, I don't paint inside of the lines, right? with technology especially with technology and the people who design the curriculums

2:44:29 all the way from 95th Street to 119th Street to go and just keep programming because of military conflicts. Yes, I would. And the fear had been taken off of us. self-made servants and if they see the seriousness the significance of this subject yeah absolutely we can't jump from that's going to get a rise out of people. It's going to take that love and that time and moments of listening,

2:50:48 that it doesn't become a two plus two equals four situation. My dad was actually a psychology Like, when I was a producer and I was a really young man, I was running around, hopping on trains or, you know, hopping turnstiles and stuff and like stealing from cars. Like when Roosevelt went in, America was in shambles. touch on 10 things at a time, resonating with me that you're being a hundred percent honest and natural and

2:55:09 What you're saying, though, You made him seem like a rational choice for president. it's very impressive, man. So Brian will play this video on how they can write you in and we'll wrap it up here. on your ballot.