Joe Rogan Experience #1570 — Willie D & Mike Judge Transcript

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0:00 Joe Rogan Podcast, check it out! Is that right? Yes, thanks for having me. Dude, I was a gigantic fan of Beavis and Butthead. Well, you always get stoned at home. Yeah. When did you guys start? Wow. then when this stuff was happening while we're alive watching it it was just really cool to see It's a community center in Fifth Ward. They played the song and everybody was singing it word for word.

4:22 I'm not aware of it. Do go platinum in the South by itself. But you were there when hip-hop was also getting censored, too. as of as the middle east sit on you what what okay i forgot hey but i had it man i had it for a moment They went after Beavis and Butthead too. yeah yeah they they made that move on us. Because we had planned on going. So they got us on that one.

7:41 That was the Ghetto Boys self-titled album. So sonically, they were pretty much the same, but there was two new songs added. but he was cool with distributing Andrew Dice Clay was like, yeah, man, this is censorship Yeah. That is classic. That was done like totally spontaneously. with Bill. mind you. I made her do it but he's going to survive. he has the gun

11:42 Bill gets shot He'll walk that edge like, I do it, I do it, I do it. Oh, shit. You know what I'm saying? about the album cover I said man i went back down and told him it was a go me and brad went upstairs I mean, maybe the room was right behind us to the right. So, yeah, I think that was Chief's idea to put the props on. And I had a, you know, my shit gets, I book it myself.

14:53 He was in the hospital. Yeah, it was. for the Ghetto But by the time that I wrote these songs for the group, Well, he didn't want to perform Let a Ho Be a Ho. you gotta let a hoe be a hoe. Yeah. Prior to that, the first incarnation of the Ghetto Boys in this direction. Jukebox decided that he wanted to do it. What kind of run-in? I want you to be in the Ghetto Boys.

18:41 And he was like, see, man, you know, a rapper That's who everybody know as Scarface now. He's in an Astro van. You know, that's J Buddy, We get there, and I think the first or second night, It's us. At this time, it's going to be me and Scarface. It's us. So I look and he's drinking a 40 ounce too. but they gonna stop Bill what you think I asked him some questions about himself and I embellished it with what I thought it might be like to walk in his shoes.

22:57 I would say 70, 80% of everything Yeah, see. He was just there for aesthetic purposes. And so after he'd do his thing, then the group would come out and start rapping. only on like maybe four songs that's because he came in late and those songs originally wasn't When you guys blew up, he had to be like, fuck. you need to get a real job. was like 17 years old he rapped like too short cold-blooded think of it a white dude rapping like Too Short. And he was authentic with it.

26:33 so fast forward i seen him about maybe three years after that and he tells me that he's working at So I liked it. Didn't matter if there was a death in the family. but i was okay with it because i had made my mind up well before that that i was not going to let because a lot of people don't know you're a really good boxer yeah and i remember there was a we

29:14 But he had won a bunch before that, though, hadn't he? Well, it wasn't one of my greatest exhibitions, but it was effective, you know? I was like, he knows how to fight. And I was like, you know, But look, when I look back at it, I wish it was somebody else but we was going back and forth. What was your boxing history? 32. changing my lifestyle. I don't like it and I'm not going

33:07 Because children don't ask to come into this world. And you look at, and really, Sometimes you might want to snap. inspirational stevie wonder music very like very inspirational probably saved my life Yeah, I hear he's a real cool dude. It was watching his example of fatherhood, You look at that guy and you say, that's who I want to be. In fact, he died.

36:56 You know, the, you know, quite frankly, it was a lot of buffoonery, right? And they Right. that i became so now along the way you know i was like i said it was baptism through fire I made a lot of and not make the same I think I was spared. their weakness you're setting examples that a lot of young guys are seeing and they're they're looking at you as

40:03 Right. Because I was like, not that I didn't do anything wrong, came to my house first to get me to go with them to hit a lick. nourish our bodies. Right. It came to me, Hey man, I probably would have went with him. And they only took like 30 something bucks. the one that got the less years so my life would have been very, Like I can, Other people's experience is the best teacher.

45:01 from both, but you can learn the terrible lessons from other people without having to do it. You know, most of the dudes are killed before they're 30, are maimed. like natural death diabetes, lupus, I need one more that can like late 20s. since we were like teenagers It should be taught in schools. I agree. Primarily, conflict resolution. Conflict resolution.

48:21 Conflict resolution should be taught in schools. You know, I would do stuff like that. agreeing to do the show then you show up they pay you the rest Our manager, our role manager, chief comes back to the limo. All these people out here? he chuckled. not really thinking like taking that money I'm not thinking on that type of level. but I would just do it differently.

52:01 I mean, I've heard people talk bad about executives and stuff. that um it was uh it was after uh through it was after through brad yeah i mean i was a huge fan i Yeah. That's why I jumped on uh social media So I knew what I was doing. that could save somebody else. but I didn't think it was that many. Right. And they just go like however they feel at that moment.

55:54 Yeah. Look, let me tell you, man. I let them know nobody likes you. One of them had the audacity time. So I got moderators on my platform and handle me. I got time. You have to destroy them. And if they don't do the right thing, Imagine somebody You know, they don't like it. That's all I have. but they already feel bad. You don't get the suicide. However.

1:00:35 give the White terrorist age? I lock in on him. You know, it was just, you know, social media banner, man. Saw him on there with his kids. private accounts if you see if you ever do pay attention to comments if you go into their I don't even respond to those type of people most of the time. You know who I am. You see 100%. You know who I am. You could see.

1:03:43 You enjoy it. like he and nothing's gonna happen to them I love who love me, It's never going to be me. Well, it clearly doesn't bother you. That's how I look at it. You know how that go. win i understand i'm looking forward to it well he basically threw the bat signal out for trolls You have to bully bullies. who is afraid it's the only time they strike you have to understand the psyche of a bully

1:06:39 So whatever that was. And I was around 14. and picking your battles. And so you want to save your energy. Yeah. than anybody or some regular dude, Can you hold your hands? Well, they do it when you Exactly. occasionally you got some real tough dudes that just enjoy hurting people because they've been This weekend. I think not too crazy to me you know because i know

1:10:35 And so it's going to be interesting, man, It's going to come down to who's more prepared. He goes, I want to get him tired. that was retired that had a boxing so it got sexual shit got sexual. There's some rules. Oh Jesus. What if Tyson... that is going to be a fucking man win. But that is going to be a fight. won't be any uh audience members yeah yeah and then And I was going to go down there for the weigh-in and everything.

1:14:45 even work out he goes if i work out my ego get ignited and then i'll i just want to destroy And then they go, what about for $30 million? So he lost almost 100 pounds. So the distance between us is because he was so Like he's got golf balls under this forearm muscle. And I'm like, you know what? i wasn't that close i know man he's amped up i'm trying to find this video i'm trying to i'm trying

1:17:56 Yeah. All right. Mike decided to come out of retirement. Well, Mike said they offered him a bunch of different people, but didn't say Holyfield he said they offered him Bob Sapp okay at one point in time and then there's a you know it's this weird situation Somebody go out there and get hurt, first thing, everybody's going to look for somebody to blame.

1:19:58 Yeah. because it's one of the things that Mike came on to talk about. the basketball league. gonna somebody will be hurt i think someone's gonna get hurt i think both of them know someone's Yeah. He's like, we all die. Yeah. you know, his glory days Yeah. When he was coming up and he would be on television, like ABC Wide World of Sports when he knocked out Marvis Frazier.

1:23:21 He's, in my opinion, like the last great, like really exciting heavyweight. Yeah. And he's thinking about coming back, too. You know, I just wanted more excitement. But he landed, when he landed, it was explosive. But he just played itiveness. I understand. Right. But he landed. I just thought he was too cautious. Yeah. He's been hit hard maybe four times in his whole fucking career.

1:25:37 Now, Floyd's a master. Like, became super famous and super successful by getting people to root for him to lose. a troll, he's a troll that stratosphere to go do something something else burned hundreds of millions hundreds of millions yeah so if if tyson can burn through 200 million That stuff is expensive. Yeah. Yeah. I want to show you this. that's an uncomfortable feeling if you're floyd it looks i've i just googled i thought it happened

1:29:13 But I'm interested to see what he does because, you know, Yeah. It might have been like right around march or something like that Yeah. Fuck out of here. but got washed by a rival of yours in boxing already. Manny's going to beat the brakes off of him. Conor's a very athletic, very fast and powerful guy. did they go i think it made the 10th i don't think it went 10 rounds i believe it did i think

1:32:21 That's it? Conor could have won. I mean, anything's A person always has a chance, even against the greatest. yeah just because it was so hard to get that rematch because Rockman knew that it was not likely he's going to repeat that lightning in the bottle from the first fight. I'm talking about like a good person. I don't go anywhere near the gym, Just for health?

1:34:11 You know, to keep that heart pumping, You never know. Yes. You can do your jump rope, You'd be lucky to get out of that first round. So it was actually George Foreman's gym. That's a dude I'd love to meet. like look out of the window and i look down i'm like i don't want to be like him Well, I'm going to be the heavyweight champion of the world again.

1:37:48 But it finished him. dropped more but more was a light heavyweight he was a destroyer do you remember that i didn't bizarre. When you watch that punch again, Because like I said, and I was like, He's made an insane amount of money off of that. I believe he was 45. Yeah. Kind of amazing, man. when he fought muhammad ali he was a scary guy he was scary everybody was terrified of him and then

1:41:53 people human beings they vary so much in their will and some people have an indomitable will Everything's not possible. But there's things that are possible. levels to commitment you know like you know david goggins is no david goggins is a friend of mine and talk about the thing that's in your mind. But he overcomes those struggles and accomplishes his goals.

1:44:46 He always wins. I stare at my fucking sneakers. like you don't have those moments of self-doubt. But for me, I know one of the things that makes me push forward, So sometimes I'm going in and I say, ooh, man, this is scary. get anything done it's interesting right Man, really, we don't care. So I fought harder. typically you have to fight the same person

1:48:53 to the store Like, they won't let you forget it. I think the consequences sometimes are a lot worse. to this day, Maybe I could have got out, You want some discomfort. going and you will learn over time that there's a bunch of those you'll have a lot of failures Yeah. There's no better motivator to get you in the gym than losing a fight. First round.

1:52:42 I'm at 190. We're friends. Man, this dude hit me so hard, man. You could see it coming, but you can't move. i couldn't get out of the way you know what i mean yeah you can see it coming but you can't move you can't get out of the way fast enough so but i see Head to toe I'm like, yeah, man, this fool I want to get him back. sore, man. I went out there, and I ran.

1:56:01 Dude don't know I'm in the gym. I'm going to get him. because, you know, I got to get in shape, man. And I'm watching this fool do all of this stuff, right? Oh, it's only two weeks. But in my mind, I just got all this energy, man. and he, I know y'all set me up. Right. So, I get on the canvas. ding, ding, fries and shake on him. this fool Yeah, so.

2:01:03 you're still in the gym like they there's always if you're just a regular dude there's always a little green envy monster what he did cause I remember and pretty girls, jewelry, money. to get it for myself. I was like, because I knew, well, I'll always be struggling, you know, like I am going to make something out of myself. man. they never follow through with that.

2:03:03 and the grace of God. why I'm still standing is He had just checked out. know. And I responded. so i you know it it it gave me a sense of of how you know people think about me you know who on our side Oh, I'm, is that, I love who love me. but the things that concern them are the anger. They concern them as strength. They're like, oh, the nice part is great and

2:06:33 been champions for the voiceless. That's us. First of all, let me address that. It's just ass toxic masculinity it's just No. God, man, God showed off when he made women. Oh, God. completely unattainable when they see a beautiful woman they know they have that woman has no and they always made him feel bad. So in his his mind women make you feel bad is a very simplistic version

2:10:17 it's one of those things where if you're going to play this game, so everybody is not qualified to actually be in a romantic relationship because they don't have they're not they don't have the emotional capacity to accept all of these different if I'm a real dude if I'm true to myself But a lot of us, we get out of character because we can't accept the consequences that are a part of being in a relationship.

2:13:06 drink myself to sleep or whatever, and I'm going to do it as long as I got to do it So you have to respect the process. Yeah. you're considered a rebel. to make somebody else comfortable snippets of things like things you said today like they might have the wrong impression of you from little snippets of things like things you said today. because, you know, we did speak on that before.

2:16:55 you know the the the second quarter by the second quarter you know of 2021, you've got a long-term plan. Yeah, yeah. Okay. Holler at me. and people start opening up businesses again But I think whatever you do, Listen to the way you think things through and the way you look at big picture. it says a lot about your character. like if you had a producer or an executive

2:19:19 but I just don't think it's a good idea there and get their greasy little fingers on everything And it was so big, people used to barbecue on Monday nights and listen to the show. The woman walked out on him after that. We're not a talk station. Every day. Yeah. Now, was it raining when you walked down the street or what? So we had an amicable split, you know?

2:23:01 That's huge. producer, you know, that I had working. People are interested in that. So and plus, I like to do stuff that I feel I'm making a difference in. Yeah. had to make sure that they didn't want to change anything i was very hesitant because i was i and It's the same thing with you. space like strong so this the podcast would be like an extension of that well it should

2:26:09 They're used to bullshit. If that guy was talking to you like that in real life, yeah tell us about the zoo willie like it's just weird but we're used to it we're used to that kind So you like racing, do you? back in five minutes like so you you cut every seven minutes for a fucking commercial right and together they don't want that right no one wants that shit anymore the genie's out of the bottle people know like you know when you see people

2:29:26 In fact, they'll be like, you must have got paid. No, there's none of that. For real. five times but they get it they get it that's where the value is that's where someone who's in all of time in all of the time where human beings have everybody knows it's big you think about it but if you could see a million people in front of you Oh, man. More money, man.

2:32:44 Look at that. There's no producer. It drives them nuts. look at what's trending and what's trending is like 500 000 300 000 a million and the kanye one was like five million and we're like well what is But as long as the people can get a hold of something and share it, then you have viral responses. we're doing he goes we thought we were just going to have this little thing where people would put

2:35:48 they're using it to share information. the other news networks. Oftentimes it's used to but it's also they can decide who talks and who doesn't exactly got it he was doing a lot of wacky shit the dude was on drugs but anyway uh new york post publishes this story and then twitter journalists and and people that are for the truth and for for sharing information they're like you

2:38:29 it is happening now you think they're gonna censor trump after he's i think they're gonna ban him again they'll never trust the voting system again that's what's dangerous about it because this is But it's not like no one cheats. They don't think it's anywhere close to that. A bunch of people that has job security no matter what. Every 45 days? And I think if we had

2:41:21 this country really could be great. And look, how many people are here right now on either side, on on either side democrat whatever liberal conservative whatever They talk about that. And the people that created these algorithms, People, there are people out there Like, and it's also an easy lane. Yeah, the algorithm is scary because it's designed to do that.

2:44:57 The AI, artificial intelligence, is figuring out what upsets you. So they have a bunch of different people with different ideas. just going to be here's my son playing football hey here's my dog doing a crazy trick like this to their phones they're addicted to these social media apps. and radio Really? It's exposing that. They purposely conspired to change the message.

2:49:13 Because the executives, they want to go towards what's profitable. I like the idea that these fools are nervous right now. I mean, like, it's going to make a bunch of noise. Yeah, we're— the reason why I'm really excited about being involved in it is because I was there while this meeting is going on and didn't know it. you know, for the whole purpose,

2:51:38 Real power. Yeah. But it was just waving guns and talking about killing each other. Well, you did this and what about you? they don't want to make the music. Right. You know, I don't understand that. just let them come on and say anything. My partner in rhyme, Brad Jordan, Scarface, You listen to most of the black artists, And they're letting people know,

2:55:44 If you're black interested right if you're ain't saying nothing. They mumbling. If you are an artist He's drawing crowds of 4, 5, 6, 7,000 people. No fucking, no, like what good does a record executive do well, And this is why they're still called majors. That would be interesting. On Spotify's defense, they literally never a vision, you got something that works and people see that vision.

2:59:40 Or the worst. That's crazy. and we'll talk about the documentary. got to come to my restaurant man when you come to houston i would love to the station seafood i'm in Sounds good. Willie D., ladies and gentlemen, good night.