Joe Rogan Experience #1579 — Suzanne Santo & Gary Clark Jr. Transcript

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0:00 the Joe Rogan experience Annoying. That shit can be really fucking. I had two different yoga teachers that did the same thing and with one of them it was amazing and with the other one it The good one. for like eight hours it was just like laugh therapy and just around like wonderful people week before you're just like hanging out but I wanted to go somewhere else. And we did. And, you know,

3:18 you've been through and then we went to like the next phase of it of the trip and at one point And at one point we went up, experienced it at the same time which i don't sometimes yeah it might be that for sure but also it might be possible that there's a frequency that Like, we're like, I just need to bring it home and show everybody proof. know her mother was this like incredibly like spiritual mystic woman and she collected uh

6:48 I believe in that. Oh, Gary. That's awesome. you know, kind of like a reset. sometimes like you know when some some folks don't quite have a handle on their darkness, you probably don't want to do acid for the first time with somebody like that, you know. My mom's there. Like I could see that there's like some weird like grid to everything. It's like the matrix.

9:50 fleeting but completely different frequency like you can't hold on to it for very long and she's she's just a good person but she like handled her shit and continues to do so and i want to go. I don't want to remember just like painful memories. I think you understand it more. I enjoyed the fuck out of that. The guitar player had this effortless style.

12:42 There they are. Glenn, when he shreds, he just has a You went over their house like, oh, they have weed. Suzanne gets sensitive to that. r&b groups and all that type of stuff so i love those harmonies that curtis may feel like you're Of that. interesting place that you get to particularly see live music and then there's the other factor the crowd vibe

15:07 and I'm so used to it it was awesome doing stuff where was that in the houston improv okay but i was like i don't want to get any inside yeah i have some fun fuck it so we're doing a bunch of shows in december and then we're gonna probably what he's doing is so powerful and i i was like i shouldn't go i shouldn't that's not safe i shouldn't go and then i texted you and

17:52 You're welcome. I live alone and I'm single. Yeah, you don't know. It sounds pretty gross. but it's still like, pandemic it's like there's so much information that they need to compile after all this all Just so you recognize, like, listen, bitch, you're not in control of anything. Like, there's just people that have, like, created new comedy specials. There's just people that have

21:00 Touring has been everything for me. I haven't been home. that kind of stuff and just been around for those things and watch their brains work every day pick went to special we went to Terry Black's and they showed us these grills that okay but the main What digital pedal board is like instead of standing on it, you would... Some nerd shit. It's just not as much fun.

23:58 How would you do that digitally? works i don't like yeah that stuff can you shake whatever i don't know how that oh that's somebody it's fun cause it's kind of like like if you could drink a shot. that is my opening song on my workout playlist. I know, man. It was perfect. When they're like, nah, I don't really, you know. I don't understand. I mean,

26:43 but I still like at its core just picking up a And I don't like idle time. I was like clapping and it was like, Yeah, I'm almost done. i think that the show that we're selling i I told you about that. Making music. My good buddy's a furniture maker, and I had a Festool sander, that's like real labor did you use all the chemicals and shit too no i had well yeah my

29:55 But she's fine. She's the best. You know, I got shamed for it recently, and I was like, really? and we're just feasting and loving life. He's coming. Well, because I'm so happy like alone Put a warrior in front of it. Warrior king sounds like a TV show. i was like oh man i think i want to foster a dog too because i love dogs and he was like whoa suze

32:33 No, Jamie, no. but no. should I have to tell you about. It depends. fuck's wrong with you dude and and then he went you know well i am pretty lonely so maybe you Oops. People that don't like cats it's interesting like people that don't like dogs they don't like dogs people that don't like cats hate cats like it's like you know this weird and like that's just got out and killed him in his car killed him in his car no here in austin

35:52 Oh, wow. The autopsy said the bites him company. Anyway. You know what? Isn't that crazy? This police searching for Cobra believed to have killed a man. You know what? And there were bears lions tigers Wow. In private collections You can go see a live show. Texas is a different animal, and they let you have zebras. I'm like, why are you getting zebras?

39:07 No. You know, they're in the horse family, but no one rides a zebra. the wild yeah they thrive in texas oh man i mean a neighbor of mine he's got an ostrich he's got lot of negligence with that where you're like, you don't need a fucking tiger. that's true god what are we gonna do now i'm trying to hang on to my chickens i just lost He's so fat. around they'll make it go at you you think so they've killed people before oh man really i've

41:36 I had this dog named Johnny Cash The gate was open. yeah it's not a fertilized egg well they get crazy they're like you know they think that The way they go to sleep is they sit on these rails. thing and johnny's like oh i got this boom he just wrecks it tears it apart is this on video So I ran. I'm like, oh, that's his friend. That't that coyotes his friend because we've been seeing the

44:43 they don't know what's going on they just think that's what I'm supposed to kill. and then there was a bunch just running around. I'm ready for some some wide open spaces, though. damn no no i interrupted you dr weed what kind of area of medicine too. W-E-E-D. The pot is for losers. That's pretty good. Yeah, right? That's pretty good. Damn. He's retired at this point.

47:13 That is like, that's the dream. I've been taking a peek. because, look, LA's dead. And I don't want to do that. People are nice too. Because if I say Suzanne, they say Susan and I hate it. Because they're broken. It's also it's like, do you need to be there? To a place where they can work. i can't do this and then they started going on the road and then they realized like oh i could

50:58 And I have a lot of gratitude for L.A. it's time to I thought it was a joke just like fried up on a fucking refrigerator. Oh, yeah. you know that used to be like a prime steelhead river no Like, when it rains, it just floods everything because nothing is set up for rain. or he dammed it, right? of the Silver Lake Reservoir. that shit you used to go to Jerry's Famous Deli in Woodland Hills.

53:46 this is going to happen to this place. and then they expand I'm six. I'm six. I'm six. I'm six. I'm six. I'm six. I'm six. I'm six. I'm six. we don't have it that bad it's really not accentuates it with these people this this covid thing is ramp their mental illness up It's like this numb exchange. But I delete it all the time. Get back to reality.

57:51 so fun like to go to a place where everybody can just experience like a fun thing together The Jam in the Van show in October. When was the last time you had performed inside? And one of them showed up. And it felt similarly. and I could not wait to get out of New York. shake hands yeah yeah he was like the first dude i saw with a mask on too he's the only guy on the

1:01:18 them and make out with them when they do that. Did you tell them you smelled Well, I had a choice to go down the rabbit hole of terror. I think so, too. I'd like to see it go around a couple times. Yeah, yeah. I'll probably take it. He's taking the Russian one. Yeah. you did really yeah but they don't know if it's from it they just know four of the people in the trial got bell's palsy uh you see you'd have it's

1:04:12 Yeah. Cool, cool, cool, cool. I mean, when I was sick, I was smoking through it. And light was really, really super bright. a healthy dude and I'm nothing really so I'm just walking all of a sudden just It was weird. they weren't really affected by do you take vitamins at all yeah i took a bunch of vitamin were you guys are you doing something But I guess I'm just going to have to move here.

1:07:43 Oh. my house so my kids no kidding my kids are really good at talking shit they they fucking they cut gonna get weird the next couple years it's yeah yeah yeah it's weird right now but it's it's cool but it's weird it's like you Get your ass in the bed. Yeah. I don't want to say beat, but you i remember this is one of the funniest things you know my mom was like i've had enough of my little

1:10:58 Five minutes. But she came back and behaved herself. Yeah. You know what I mean? Still. Five minutes. That's a long five minutes for a little kid. Oh, she never forgot that. Oh, yeah. But she came back and behaved herself. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Let me try it. It was weird. I can't imagine my 10- old wandering around by herself like but i was doing that yeah i just would go

1:12:34 some kids stole my ball yeah i like monster books no i mean i know it is he's a monster um and he uh goes you like They both worked. I mean, who knows what would have happened if I got in his car. removed from savages you know my grandparents came over on a boat yeah they didn't know what and people just took chances. Yeah. I think that's the thing. I think that we're going to think about that with ourselves and with our kids yeah i think we're

1:15:09 documentary they don't let their kids It feeds into all the reward systems that the human mind is wired for, but it does it in a way that's very unproductive and damaging to a lot of people. this like mindset where they and then i know a lot of people on the left that are like that too This is what you always get. with your fucking tweet. to change themselves

1:17:34 off and you're constantly you know like you feel like you're in some battle you're calling yourself Yeah, regurgitating something. Even if you're talking to one person, what you say to that one person can affect the way they talk to another person. and you could find diseased parts it's you're there. Florida is such an interesting energy to my, uh, I have Florida plates on my rental and I'm like, Oh God, I hope, you will feel like a person without a country. Florida is such an interesting energy to my,

1:20:16 Yeah. They're like, I'm going to trade out these wildfires for hurricanes. There's a lot of nice spots. And we used to get shipped off to Florida for weeks at a time when I was a kid because my grandparents lived down there. gunner. You want to know something kind of You can tell me about your grandfather But we didn't play the song So, do you want to wing it or do you want to do the bridge a little bit?

1:22:05 No rehearsal. We go into your shred fest and then we have the, you know, kind of breakdown. Oh, I'm not. But I see them creeping on a sneak attack When you press yourself right up against my back under that creek fall for that I do what I can like the 13 year old me so you're practicing a lot you know what I mean and doing those same things, and it's time to sit back

1:28:29 Are we starting a band? Oh, man. start to learn how to play guitar, So she's an incredible violinist from Nashville. was like four hours just went by and it hurts like you have to like your my neck like everything but I did. So you might have won while tripping. Somebody send me a picture. I hate to do it, guys. I'm just sad you're leaving. in next month, I think.

1:32:01 real comfortable. You had done You seemed so loose. again because i forgot how to do it i was like yeah yeah what's up you know it's weird right Well, I'm going to come see you guys when I can. I was literally like, I had this thought and I was like, do I take my house plants and my cats in the car? How does this work? Do I Well, you moved to Nashville briefly while I knew you.

1:33:45 My allergies were really bad there. But you can go to an allergist and get shot up. And you know, fire season is a nightmare for my voice, too. yeah but you know you have a job and you're in this area. My really good friend in Santa Monica, And my friend was like, is to be like, keep that open mind if you can, and you brought up Austin, yeah you know I feel that.

1:36:54 You talked about it in June Yeah, good job. You live in a different house. It's good for you. Yeah. I want to have it also not just a hub for comics, but a hub for wannabe comics. And they need stage time yeah and at Got it. That's cool. can't just pop in and do a half hour right you gotta do your time it's three minutes and so the Cool. Cool. Not your thing.

1:40:51 It was so hard to work. And then they figured out a way to do stand-up. I don't know. if you're not comfortable with who you are, period. It's a little of both. How nice is he? He's the best he's so nice i know you know what's so great about him is like he has gotten It's hard when you meet someone and you're a fan of theirs, too, right? I mean, we were like early 20s.

1:43:58 that's a very um special quality yeah well he's just an unusual guy for like who he is like he's so unassuming Cool. Whatever, David Goggins. I know that he has like the perfect body but like well it's he's got a It sounds familiar. So that's yoga toes. Doesn't matter. is I get to have a double bunionectomy Right. two ways what do they do they can either hack it off at the side where that's probably the propensity

1:47:15 Why are we doing this to ourselves? the other three yeah but look at that before and after bunion pictures that guy got it fixed Well, yoga does really help with it because you have to like distribute your weight on your feet in a certain way. things that i found when i first started doing yoga is it would kill my feet they'd be so sore they just pick their foot up and enviously stretch themselves fully

1:50:31 myself but like she's like the diamond in the rough i i wear her heels too but they're designed supplements like for my body not just like what's trending because everything is so specific. or watch fights yeah oh that's great yeah because two birds or sometimes I just sit in silence and That's the one I cheap out on is the stretch. stretching is important for your back too believe it or not a lot of like back injuries start out

1:53:33 of me like for saying warrior king or something like and i really regret it i wish i just said I've just been so off the map in that way that I have no perspective anymore. It's very predatory to be honest, because like, you i don't like it's so weird when someone tells you what they want to do to you right away it's lick your butthole. This is my thought.

1:55:37 Right. or the uh dating apps rather too people are fucking boring they are they sure are not so It's a sound thing. AMSR. This is the one that I saw. And it's from a year ago But it's very interesting to me Not boring at all Yeah, that's what I'm talking about. he goes, she's got to be into something. into something and i remember like thinking like wow that's a that's an interesting desire i want

1:59:36 you're already leading with a handicap, you know? It's like, I am so fucking excited I think we were talking about this last night about being inspired because whether it's a fictional story or non-fiction i've i've just absorbed something and i most perspective like oh you know it's like you're firing cylinders you're getting those pistons But people are terrified.

2:02:57 Now here's the problem. a balance like you like don't get me wrong i want be, um, my champion that I can be a champion for them as well. You know, It's, It's like not good for anybody. especially they're like girls that are fans yeah i mean whatever butters your scone you know I'm in love with you, I mean, the the art i mean i haven't uh dated one that I didn't break up with.

2:05:39 It's both. cycle you have to start preparing for the next one. And I do both. and kind of bounce around sometimes I couldn't wait to get home and sit at my kitchen table. run, away it's weird it's weird and you know what sucks is usually when i'm in that writing phase i stop I just kind of have to roll with it. I get up, I don't remember jack shit.

2:09:02 like your brain is like coming up with an idea and like when you shut that down it's like are you gonna be better for it the next day when to say i mean i my first record my ruby red record i did really fast i we recorded it in a month and i was like writing songs in the away from everybody i'll jump up from the dinner table i'll be like i got an idea and i just said

2:11:27 we need a place to work out and not have a lot of expectation people that are doing the same thing. then you feel like, Yeah. Yeah. Oh, fun. I mean, isn't this a tank? It was a conference room. i've had some conversations about what to do different lamps are beautiful lamps came from all you know all sort of like coming from And that like you can outsmart it, you know,

2:15:14 It's like I can be anxious about feeling like I don't belong here Well, this is my suitcase. And then I'm just excited, you know? like i feel like old me a little while ago would have freaked out and like gone like oh god oh god Yeah. and it was i had a blast yeah well it's i think the thing about live performing is it's so different there's a very large period of readjustment.

2:17:48 And then we had him do one show, You're going to open up a fucking club. like i sat down i was like it changes the way you feel you're like yeah this is like Yeah. or if they're going to wait five days. You get the results the next day? it's like 36 hours 24 that's not that bad especially if you don't do anything between But I have like over a hundred orders, and I've only done 20, and it's a lot of work.

2:20:41 People being like, hey, this is like, So when I get back to LA, I got to get fishing gear. Oh, me too. Yeah. You should Google like how to fix flat feet too. I haven't taken yoga in a long time. Yeah. And then I take a regular shower. like there's a high yeah oh my god i would do that cryo health care in woodland hills when i would I bet they have it where you can walk in.

2:24:23 shit yeah because that's what it's like it's literally the temperature of the dark side of the moon it's like See, the below the neck kind is liquid nitrogen, and you're not supposed to inhale that shit. I think we talked about it a few weeks ago. Yeah, Like, jump in that thing well the Russians so they cut a hole oh big full bite minus 170 or something like that there you you go. Look, there you are. Oh, motherfucking. Thank you.

2:26:32 Good. A house? Come move near us. There's plenty of spots. you want to be able to scream why me like six months ago during covid when i was like just Is that the guy who hates the cat? He's just sad. I get it. Yeah. to you right now. We had to pull over And I was like, I'm good. I wouldn't have it any other way, but I definitely, yeah, man, that was intense.

2:29:47 That's a risky move to be romantically involved with someone that you're in a band with. You would love their music. and then I'm going to be digging a fucking hole. They're amazing. I'm a comedian. people you you can't generalize like that people are so they vary so much like my good friend tom like they understand the stand-up comic kind of crazy.

2:31:39 basic you are, the harder it is to find a partner. rolling around inside your head. you're, I remember going to Thanksgiving dinner that year year and this was back when like we'd yeah you know don't overdo it but like um you know they had the outside bar going on for a while Jamie you want to take this one? That's not what it's for. Oh, you were talking about this.

2:35:37 Is that what it is? I'm like, I'm looking for a capo. And realized you were in negative numbers. So each string has a very specific frequency. And he does. and then other times you can like cultivate it. But I, okay, so yeah, this tune is like, I haven't really written anything like this Cause that hurricane ahead might be never ending safe for love

2:39:27 if you're able ain't no walls that's gonna hold it all together, save for love. Cause it's raining hell on earth Thanks. Like jean shirts and jean jackets. It's page denim. every day it's it's important to know this one isn't i guess so that's apparently not no jumpsuit Oh. Carhartt, that kind of shit? No. Well, because the 60s are like, okay. Oh, yeah.

2:44:26 Have you seen it? you don't want to get into it. Fuck it. Steve McQueen was the hero. Come on. Okay, black one on the left. Bell bottoms, huh? Collars got long for a while. this really nice guy and his wife and they're Midwestern. They're telling me about the kids, pet turtle. And he's like, And I was like, He does. Well, I mean, I just can't roll my pants up like that.

2:47:27 Yeah. And they look beautiful. Joe, this is so funny. And I didn't, I did it by accident. It's a good reset. I did. They'll probably love you. and i think there's there's a balance to well, you can't go to a restaurant. But like you can do, it's like, it's really it's it's really imbalanced it doesn't make any sense no it's not and it was such a beautiful city

2:51:31 And I think that people underestimate thinking that they're always out for your best interest and that you're being taken care of and you don't have to worry about a thing. And I'm like, listen, you're not fixing this. I, There's a lot of great things about it. they want to tell people what to do and what what you can and can't do and they had eight months to

2:53:46 Have you ever listened to Garcetti talk? And Newsom is just a, like, clearly a, like, I saw this horse shit. And every time I look at it, I get a sick feeling. that thing's awesome it's insulated look at that yeah yeah i think that that's where um I used to feel tense in L. The vibe here is more relaxed. Like I feel better here. No, it's a lot of energy coming at you and

2:56:44 enjoy like little rituals like your matcha cupcakes or donuts or whatever and those kind of yourself yeah like i'm too much for a lot of people but the thing is if i'm too much for those celebrating yourself is like a weird thing to do but it's such a good thing to do when you're like yeah don't be an asshole yeah i enjoy very little of my success i enjoy other things

2:59:15 Things that require, they require a certain amount of effort. you're also like pioneering this, this enormous amount of energy that like, yeah, you could be a it's a it's a important thing to do it's really scary when you get because i've seen it other She said, I got a piece of trivia. Like one of the most talented singers ever. Yeah. Millions. Yeah. But what made me sad is thinking about her as a 12 year old yeah doing stadiums yeah in arenas

3:03:12 and she's an artist. probably cluster B personality disorder stuff. It's like, oh, yeah, you know, people are getting with people when they have ultimate power you know it's the old adage you know uh ultimate are the qualities i look for in my friends and i look for in my partners and it's amazing Yeah. but like kind of bringing it back to the beginning,

3:06:45 really really hard uh and efficiently so to to find a place for in our lives and balance and Yeah. deal with who was a real asshole. Call up my wife and call this up and get this was terrified of that guy and look what happens to to him. They just locked him in jail. Like he's, he's fucked forever. But like people still need to be able to take a dick joke. that's all gone. It's changed. The world's a different place now. And so, but like,

3:09:13 like, but they want to control other people. Especially if somebody exposes it. there's levels to how you judge and communicate with other people a lot of people suck at it i almost always, Are they just like out there in the yard? I really do hope you move here and we can hang out more often. sounds good is that good luck I'm gonna Thank you, my friend. Always good to see you.