Joe Rogan Experience #1581 — J. Prince Transcript

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0:00 the joe rogan experience train by day joe rogan podcast by night all day Yeah, so we got a lot of shit here, man. Willie D was on here, and he explained the whole story to us, that you're the one who talked him into being into the Ghetto Boys. And I realized that we're from the South and we just had different stories. We came with ghetto stories. You know?

3:31 you know everybody that didn't have a voice you know a lot of the things such as the mind time you know i was hustling a different way and I didn't want my brother in the streets. you can't fake it in the rap game it's one of the the rare genres of music that has so many people that are both in and out of that world. is such an immense part of the rap world.

6:07 When the Ghetto Boys came about, which was like late 80s, And in the case of the Ghetto Boys, show the pros and the cons and show the psychological effects of that life. and then how did you get a part of the Ghetto Boys? And I basically took Scarface with me that night. You know, I drove and picked them up every day to make sure they showed up in the studio.

9:26 going to school, they come here every day practicing and, you know, I tell everybody in my DNA to a certain extent I'd like that phrase more is caught than taught but he didn't wasn't tight with them, right? You know, it was somewhat difficult because everybody was solo artists and everybody wanted to do their own thing. And Scarface as well. How did you figure that out early on?

13:19 Was that your first big business? that i dreamt of being in did you have like a checklist yeah yeah yeah and so when you opened And so did you use that as a springboard to get into the rap game? I said, well, how did you know that? Yeah, pretty much so. which ultimately led me, I prayed for a champion. So, you know, I knew a friend that knew Mike, I'm like, oh, okay, thanks, bro.

17:42 I'm like, all right, brother. asked my friend i said who who number is this number right here he said oh that's floyd mayweather the 130 pound champion Yeah. But as he evolved with experience, he got comfortable, you know, with the defense. i've had opportunity to like witness a lot of fighters work ethic andre wards and floyd may And Sugar Ray knew it, capitalizedized on it and forced a quick rematch

21:36 We used to do that all the time. He was, you know, his right hand was a thing of beauty. Oh, yeah. No, that's true. All right. Which one is this? Oh, yeah. stuck over there yeah as of now he's been over uh in uh in Paris for the last few months Yeah, but it's no worse or no crazier than the music industry. That's very good. So you're personally involved in selecting everything as well?

26:05 And I became, you know, kind of sold where wine was concerned. not supposed to be balling yeah when you own a vineyard, you're a baller. You're owning a vineyard. it really unfortunately i don't have a lot of time to really learn about wine but yeah i've developed a deep respect for one i don't know much about it really unfortunately He had a $12 million contract on the table at the time I came in

29:19 And one of the things that I told him when I met him, I said, You know, I went home and done some due diligence on Diego Corrales at the time. So he heard then where you know I was celebrating because I'm like whoa we finna get Diego so I called the people My head of the home is to surround Diego. by a wise man who understands publicity? Which is, it's so crazy that a dude who is a YouTube star, who's a good athlete,

34:04 before he fought him. He wanted the best. in jail really yeah yeah i got the blessings from florida i said florida you have a problem Do you remember who his opponent was? behind my Las Vegas place and I was called and you know his right on the next street behind my Las Vegas place. And I was called, and, you know, his wife was like, on motorcycles like that what makes them great sometimes does them in is that heart, that courage, and the willingness to face fear.

36:59 Yeah. Not as much as I used to, but I like the Harleys. saw someone get hit and two people i know crashed one one crash and really fucked up his shoulder And his bike has crashed and he's laying down. It's a terrible way to go. They enjoy the thrill. Because Maidana gave him some difficulty in the first fight. is concerned no no matter how close it was yep a

40:09 He literally didn't have a right arm. I mean, it's amazing what he accomplished. Very unique. gold medalist in the Olympics. Yeah. a lot of millions he walked away from a lot of millions a lot of me because he was the guy that It's Andre Ward. Who do you like in that fight? Yeah. And you realize, like, wow, there's fucking levels to this thing. Yeah.

43:27 I think this weekend's fight is 168 though correct i think so yeah yeah the uh the gentleman is fighting callum is like he's like No. That's crazy. And he's a very, very good fighter. what to do it's amazing yeah i love that i love seeing when when people achieve a level of Like the Conor McGregor fight. tension is a badass kickboxer like a really good kickboxer but he's 126 pounds he's a tiny little dude and the the japanese people

47:10 these people fight that are mismatched size wise they enjoy that for whatever When you see him smiling at him and walking forward, it's like an execution. level with what he done yeah yeah um but what happened with you guys you guys have fallen out didn't recognize your talents and have you stay involved with them you know like your main source of income by any means this is just something you truly enjoy yeah no i really love this i actually call steven tony yoka jared anderson tucker jihad tucker julian rodriguez mazi duke reagan

51:06 so i'm a manager i negotiate against the promoters i protect the fighters that's the big issue with job promoting him you got in your roster one of the greatest of all time a real stone cold killer. Yeah. Terrence Crawford is a stone cold killer. I mean, it's crazy. Look how good this guy is. I'm a giant Terrence Crawford fan. Yeah. because he didn't have his fucking seatbelt on.

53:48 he protected Earl Spence that day. to show his true greatness you know he's he's he's had great fighters you know to to establish the some shenanigans who wrote that yeah that's shenanigans i don't agree with that number one in boxing it's very difficult to get champions to fight champions when they're represented by They just have to agree on terms.

56:26 Did you see him fight the other night? I mean, it wasn't nowhere near close. audience you know or very limited audience like uh anthony joshua's fight they held it in london there's something about the intimacy of these shows where the fights are taking place with no audience. I like no audience. Well, yeah, if I had to choose, I'd want the people there because I want more people to experience it.

58:59 But there's something wild about when crazy shit happens and the whole place gets on their feet and goes nuts yeah and then when the fight is over just the roar of the crowd there's something And I feel more joy in that space than a lot of the other businesses that I'm in. Yeah. So after the rematch, Fury slacked off? Yeah. When he knocked out Ortiz, he hit him in the forehead

1:01:47 Yeah. Your costume was the reason why you got knocked out? Wow. And people are like, your hand doesn't bend back that way. and then dropping the right hand on them. I was in training camp with Tyson Fury. And, you know, you just got to tilt his hat to the guy. Yeah. No one accomplished that. it's crazy his power is crazy but sometimes and I'm sure you see this as a manager sometimes when

1:05:22 Well, you saw that in the Hopkins rematch, right? His speed was faster than Floyd's speed. So when he started arriving you know things change How long ago? And I was like, Roy, man, let's get that bird, you know, you got any excuses tonight, Roy? Tarver was a great, great boxer. Yeah. when they're both in their prime. Because everybody thought that Felix Trinidad was this young, up-and-coming lion.

1:09:27 I remember that. Right. His defense is so good. Crazy. And he remembers that guy. All right, we'll leave that alone for now. And that's one of the things that I love so much about combat sports is that they're how much you put into that yeah is what you get out of it that's right you know it's it's just muhammad ali and man i was mesmerized like wow that looks special I got interested in boxing when I was a

1:13:05 cat williams lights him up like a christmas tree yeah and then they make him take three years off boxing like what is this and i think that was what got me really interested in boxing yeah around the world you know what he meant to them I was like wow what the special Yeah. And I think it ruined his career. The problem is we didn't see that. like shit Jordan down in an All-Star game

1:16:31 Yeah. the same boy wasn't that a brutal fight man brutal fight when richard steel stopped it was like two student of boxing love it the heart feel like I'm sitting there talking to Yeah. Yeah. And then Gerald fought Nigel Vann. this fight's over. He's a beast, right? Yeah, in Las Vegas. him man he'd been beating up all the the cell mates the inmates the you know the guards

1:21:04 to fight again in their 50s? Yeah. Nonstop. My God. Crazy Holy field. And I watched that fight recently. He's a technical beast oh my god yeah and I was with my wife and a couple of her friends as well. and said hi to him. I don't think he was really training for it. business it takes a long time to learn but i think if they approach it correctly She's young.

1:24:51 She signed with the PFL, which is a smaller organization. decided. Yeah, I talked to her But I'm a big fan of hers. And the big problem has always been Yeah. I mean, come on. yeah leila ali is another one yeah muhammad ali's daughter rose to fame he made some money but You know, Christy Martin was on a lot of undercards, and she got kind of famous.

1:27:55 they get the accolades, they get the respect, they get the money. Oh, Khabib? Yeah. This guy, he's not just undefeated. You know, it's never without that discipline and that individual they they don't do it they like to call it luck but when someone's You know, my wins, my't really thinking it would cover. followed my uh you know my track record and thing from the past, I was low key.

1:32:41 So was it all the lessons that you learned in your life that are just sitting in your mind and you're saying, like, I have to share these. it was like a build-up was taking place over the years that okay I need to share you know my glory and you read what they were thinking what it was like for them and you absorb that and take it in in the structure and the different rules of how to do things then pick up a book get the art and

1:36:19 and he came back with his eyes on fire and like, you know what I mean? He had saw something special. It is education. been a praying man i always pray for wisdom knowledge and education and when that book was more qualified to do these things than I was. So I stayed in the background, worked in the studio with the artists and just made sure product was, you know, being done. But after reading that and

1:39:26 I fired like 25 people and kept like three. Did you get inspired by any other books after that? life I was working against the universal laws and to understand how the universal laws operate you and jump down and I'm not going to float, Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I mean? From a business perspective, from a a personal you know like a road map in my personal life just proverbs you know so it's different

1:43:34 things that i read about you that was crazy was that there was a time where the feds had tried to take you out mm-hmm you were full story yeah yeah you were You know, I was, I remember, and here's what happened. We became the number one independent label for years, you know, with ex-convicts. it was a need for artists to come after us and we was destroyed it they hit suge knight deferral we know what happened with that and they came at me

1:47:47 You know, I brought the investigating report so you can look at it if you choose. All of this is public information. But a long story short, you know, they were able to speak up on my behalf. And, you know, which ultimately, oh, there's so many connections to this. So I went and heard the sermon. And before the So I was being set up. stopped me he got behind me on the streets when i left out of the office, but he stopped me on the freeway.

1:52:12 Make a right. to hurt you in that dark and i didn't want to think you was trying to hurt me. Well, where are your guns? but he went on the passenger side so I walk around I say You know, a warning ticket. You know what I mean? I didn't understand. People that worked for me you know i had a street team that would promote my records in different clubs at night what they

1:56:10 You know, I just want it to be known because if a situation take place and I come out on top, They put it. How did you be? I said, man, i don't really want to talk about that i said i'm trying to go to a party you know why are you stopping me so made me get out put me in the back of the police car any of that so they tried to get me to cop out for probation and cop out i'm like no so the pill changed from ecstasy to drant transact whatever that field is and it

1:59:13 And the police that's supposed to be protecting me, the ones I'm paying all these taxes to, So I was dealing with a power that was greater than the power was from the streets and from the police. to be something else going on they They probably can't help themselves. to do different concerts and this particular female ended up dating one of my guys that was working for me.

2:02:10 And all you have to do is get the key off of the tire of my vehicle and go to the room and get the bag and go free. And, you know, when I read the transcripts they having a conversation and he couldn't you know they put kilos in that bag even though she told them it was going to be money the feds Think about the lives that he destroyed. look out their prison window and see legal marijuana grow operations while they're in jail

2:05:46 use human beings oh yeah they get caught up in that trap literally as batteries they're like it'll be shameful people people will be embarrassed by who we are today yeah no no i agree you know perpetrators and there's you know violent offenders there's all these different things that they like that game because if you can win that game and get more convictions their career will escalate

2:08:33 It's crazy. of these type of uh this type of hate you know what i mean where because it's not that one person these cops are involved in this grand conspiracy but in a way they are because what they're doing And what I witness, and I can't call them good, but what I witness is, like, I believe there's some good cops out there. Right. they they tell themselves the only people you can trust are other cops and we've got to stick

2:12:26 old girl who's on the scene who happened to be filming it with her phone yeah well for example Oh yeah. what they done was they went and searched his desk and his locker, him and Chad Scott. his other sidekick is on his way to prison. He was found guilty of doing the same stuff. five in new york city it's an amazing documentary and he came in and and talked to me about on the

2:15:40 That's what these guys was doing. Yeah. situation that I feel scarred me to a certain extent you know there's no doubt about it uh definitely i'm in a i'm in because there's this when you have this system that is uh they're they're unsupportive of people escaping the life. now the younger police officers today like now i would ride through the hood and i would get

2:19:40 all of them watching my movement at ground zero, which inspired them to, you know, to come to fruition with their movements. being uh racially profiled all the time because you know i ride clean i like nice cars you know And the people loved me for, you know, to get to the position that you're at. Right. Yes. In the sauna, at the gym, audio books. I've read it.

2:23:57 Yeah. One of the things that I know that you are very passionate about is raising up the South. hustle i give them credit you know what i mean and they was like spreading their troops as if we not in part of know, our people not special. yeah being undeniable at the end of the day and i i think that's also what's happened with you you know, sometimes I think i made their heart uh skip a

2:28:08 One of my favorite quotes have a sandwich without us I wrote about it in my book of how me and Puffy, you know, a video so i was on my tour bus and i turned it all the way around i think i was close to phoenix I think a few weeks. And, you know, I just wanted to echo it it was on my spirit that dude had yeah just vocal power you know yeah and Tupac was the same way

2:32:53 Right. Yeah. when they would stop me and pull me over. And now that guy is driving a Mercedes. break the law. an anti-human sentiment yeah that a person can't change that's's one of the worst things you can say to a person. you know the way this system is built is is really unforgiving you know and you know like the brother through this too like you don't have to be who you are right now. Who you are right now is who you are because of

2:37:26 that's the most non-human idea ever because the best people all change when when you're young but this thing where drugs is concerned, you guys making money off of this and no one is getting are you really protecting society You know what I mean stand up and not twist and let's lay it out because this is a terrible terrible place this is a terrible scenario

2:41:33 But it's beautiful that now you're celebrated. Everybody who is down on their luck, who's not doing well, is in a bad situation, All of them. owls are concerned you know I like eagles I like eagles too you know but you know these i mean it's a lot of strength where owls are concerned you know i like eagles i like They are. And I want everybody to know that the Art and Science of Respect is out right now.

2:44:32 I appreciate it, bro.