Joe Rogan Experience #1584 — Todd White Transcript

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0:00 the joe rogan experience train by day joe rogan podcast by night all day You said my wife would never move there. I probably met you in like 2000-ish or something like that. He's on news radio. went over to his house and i was literally hypnotized watching Hoyce Gracie do what he did. Yeah. you know, like art speaks to me that place and they were done. But I could smell all that sweat and humidity and nastiness. And I

3:12 I was just looking at him going, I want to be you. So I thought, okay, I'll go to the valley, you know? Yeah. they're all horribly out of shape and they can barely move. And I'm thinking, God, this isn't Boulevard. He wasn't at his place in Tarzana yet. He was getting ready to move that week. oh, hello, hello. like two friends. to John Jock right so I was there

6:06 and I was an animator for a long time. And so it came very – I wasn't a wrestler, but it came pretty natural to me, the movements, right? how that they like get ready to fight and they're like you know they do their poses and he did that I mean, he's a short guy, but he's real stock. So I'm sitting there and I go, okay, I think it'll work, dude. I copy what I saw Hoist Gracie do.

9:04 He starts hitting me with his elbow on the top of the head, right? I goes down. He lands on me. We fall into the guard. He starts hitting armbar and i cranked as hard as i could on that arm and he screams okay wow and i get up right and i'm like you got that blood rush i'm like hair messed up Both those guys. yeah the greatest belt you can get is blue yeah i say that it's to this day and i'm fourth black

11:07 Here's my take on purples. than they were further from it. He's like close. a guy from another school or someone come in and he's a blue belt or even a purple it was like oh yeah let's roll and they run right to you right yeah you rolling today let's You know what would drive me the most crazy? You're sitting here waiting for everybody to get tired.

13:10 know what to do yeah like i'm thinking you know but just like just you know working on my art I'm like, wow. just earlier today rather that um sure the restaurant out here yeah i go in had no idea i I came out of high school. I had no social life And I just looked at it as I'm going to educate myself through the hard work and the grind. They're dead-looking.

15:31 and i just i would i had vhs tapes of them at the summit and everything and i used to watch And so I spent the next, you know, 10 years in animation designing characters for shows. he gave me marine biology books. And he was a really cool dude and a surfer. Yeah. So I don't stare at any of them. yourself in it you see yourself you see your boys weekend at vegas that time you had the greatest

18:30 The blonde, like from the left-hand side, the third one, she looks like a bitch. Everyone has their own personality. She seems like she's happy. in relationships a lot of people they look for conflict in relationships i just look for nice But see, what are we doing? And then she's going to fuck all your friends. get to a point where it seemed like labor or like it does a dope hendrick shirt son what you got

20:30 I'll give it to you. and he goes, I try it on. I'm like, Oh, perfect. He goes, I've had to fix it. I go, hey, see if this fits you. so much i mean you have a lot you like like had requirements, right? I mean, was it, was it ever where it felt like work? pick and it's a different all right what's the story of the lady with the what's the story with dinner with him or cutting up steaks and having a bunch of laughs and at some point in your mind

23:13 You had the first portion of your life, which was a youth struggle adult. james hetfield and you're just having conversations and you're like dude my god you got me through i mean you're really good at it so it's not like you're it's not like you're flying by the seat of fu dudes they never let it go ever so well you got a lot of uh the day of the dead type so during

25:31 Why not? No, no. It's a guy that owns a pretty big strip club chain. And she's 40 now. I don't like hearing that. dirty little floozy just a little scallywag is she a dame no no is that a dame what is a dame They're strong. Yeah. Yeah. my wife is, Stab you in the back, how so? And they just fucking jump on you. You're an object. far it gets you you know because

29:29 like stand-up is a perfect example But I'm not a needy comedian. You could do comedy. sometimes my wife laughs at me like i think i can do it and then go get an idea across in front of you're like uh my next thing is you know well. Well, you know, Eddie really got into comedy. And he did it like eight or nine times teaching classes. And then he eventually

31:44 And dude, and he was touring with Sam Tripoli for a while. But it's the pain of doing, but he was like, listen, I'm trying to run a school. I don't just turn my work over to a company to produce my work It comes out. hey, we did 50 of that image we sold out in a day. then the canada will pick up 20 and then what's left over is for the u.s why is that why is the

34:30 instagram instagram is it's a it's a strange day in time right now because of covid and shutting And so that's what happens. and in the morning she'll have four or five emails If they are a collector who's custom to a gallery, Yeah. I see no point in getting, for me personally, doing, I'm very fit. have headaches i don't have any of anything there are false negatives yeah and i go dude we are

37:37 He's like, these are the worst things you could do The people that are dying, they have an average dependent and it's comorbidity dependent the uh the people that whole country shut down for that but it's the people that are vulnerable are really vulnerable older people right sick people but what it is is we it's exposed andrew schultz said it best that this

39:15 that they get it, and it's nothing. That's probably half the nation, though. I hate that word. closed, people can't get what they want from their store. So they go right to online. I don't think Oh no no Cowards I'd look at you raising your eyebrows. on purpose but if you were really conspiratorially minded that's what you would think you would think

41:29 We're surrounded. All caps. caps not a factor I was I was working at the jujitsu school one day and and I'm under the I feel like I bought something Oh, no. He'll punch me in the face. warrior and went through those that organization he's very creative in his his endeavors of writing Yeah, he's smart with everything he does. That's one of those things.

44:48 When I was in my animation days, And they say, well, we're going to have them put them in the guard and they're going to roll around. And I'm like, well, I'm not a fighter. I just did jujitsu. And I know that really well. And they say, well, we're going to have them put them in the guard and they're Yeah. with like a just that mental um inner genius going over the edge you know and i see that a lot you

46:21 miserable that we're using this comedy to put band-aids on. It keeps my approach to comedy reasonably healthy, too. You want to feel like it never ends? You want to feel like you can don't feel like you want to feel like it never ends you want to feel like you're you know you're like you can't do this like come do that and then once you do do is the best way to deal with the things that we all deal with everybody's got some sort of

48:14 I drank too much water before I went to bed. And I was like, fuck. And my mind got away from me. think about minutia, I try to think of a blank piece of paper I'm trying. And when one shows weakness or is bleeding, Training just pushes all that out of your system. And I want to get her into jujitsu And I use jiu-jitsu every day of my life and work and dealings and talking.

51:55 it's the greatest feeling driving home after a hard workout and you got the windows down and like the kind of hunting i do too is mountain bow hunting right you're walking and hiking for a long And I started paying attention to websites that talked about hunting and talked about what kind of life was that and i was like am i contributing to this like what kind of fucking

54:46 exceptional people like jujitsu right it's very similar like a person to get good at jujitsu like The guys that excel at it, the guys like Cam Haynes and John Dudley And also for me, I was really fortunate to find a place like John Jock's. And then when you're eating your food, like I'm going to give you some elk today. Yeah. I'm like, oh, no, my papa's here.

57:09 your teeth biting into a pellet um you know what i never cracked a tooth because i was cautious And it felt like you had to shoot it while it was further going away and supposed to right in front of you. And then I went pheasant hunting with Anthony Bourdain. I sent a little bit of feather flying. from tool you know maynard does jujitsu yeah or daneain was obsessed with jujitsu did they ever roll together?

58:59 so I looked was there and i felt like if i was there that wouldn't have happened if i was there i would He kept going. Trying to sit in front of the fire. He had a competition he did. 59 or something like that. montana i showed him some stuff we were just rolling around a little not even rolling around he had another guy that he worked with that was really into jiu-jitsu too that was uh you know

1:02:40 Camping's awesome. goes well what you're what leads you to get really good at things is an obsession an obsession and so obsessed with it i was just so driven and and jujitsu and martial arts for sure when i was addicted to things. Yeah. I mean, I've never, I never tried any drugs all the way through like stuff and if it felt good and i loved it i would dive into it full holiday that's why thank god at

1:05:38 and very untrusting with everything And his demeanor slowness to look and pay attention at the same time you're defending and fighting and looking and Oh, yeah. I need this now and you're going to get it today, tomorrow. That's interesting. That's right. Caught him. It was in Huntington Beach. And I did this, like, old mobster 30s painting of all these dudes and thugs, band of thugs, and I'm going to do a painting called Band of Thugs. And I did this like old mobster 30s painting of all these dudes and thugs,

1:08:58 You're no longer a Todd White gallery. The Butcher? Look at that. and and it it it it went so she ripped you off to the tune of a couple hundred thousand bucks? I had galleries calling me he goes, play it up, live up to it. Go ahead it go ahead go oh yeah you can carry me and you know It's awesome to think. and something wouldn't got signed by me so she gives me the signature she gives me this image

1:12:50 that. And I go, I think she is. So I get home and we tear it apart. We break open the canvas. We that and then we just start building a case and i got the lapd involved how crazy is this through Whoa. He says there's no way you can tell And he has his own podcast. that they can do this, and they can't. The way he says it, man, it's not real. She's guilty. i don't know

1:16:08 I have no idea. Yeah. the whole course this past weekend yeah i was caroline yeah that's good it's a different world that are buying up chunks of properties all based off Joe Rogan moved there. And developing homes. I'll tell you that it real quick before we get too far. It's saliva they like science research centers for detectives. He's the greatest Googler on earth. Oh my god, okay. That's different. If this whole thing ever collapsed, you could definitely go work for science research centers

1:18:35 That bite mark shit, I used to think it was legit. said it had to be him because he's missing teeth there's a spot here no no there's no you could Staged a one hour interrogation So the other side of that that they got her in that room the tangle webs we weave and, you know, that would never kill normally, Might not even really be love. your wife at a restaurant or bar or whatever,

1:21:02 There is a difference. They lean. And I can uncomfortably stare. I look at the way dudes wear pants. That's all I refer to, you know'm i'm no longer the one thing i the one small thing i miss about not being in Right. You need to feel like what it feels like to laugh at somebody else's stuff and be like, ah, it's inspiring. It's like you would go there on any given night.

1:23:38 Same thing in the art world. And sometimes he'll call you on shit and be like, oh, that's a horrible idea, you know. Like when I go to Jocko's Instagram, right, i just see his his workouts or i go to david goggins or cam haynes You can grow from them and learn from them. or starting fights or needs too much attention or or shits on your work or whatever the fuck it is

1:26:00 Yeah, I'm totally lucky on that end. It's easy to talk to someone who knows you that well. If you have five good days and five bad days, which is a lot of people, it's extremely tough because we work together and we're, you know, problem and and it was good to like talk to people and get things out and try to wrangle well i always my brain often like an engine like i gotta keep that fucker tuned yeah i gotta keep it tuned and

1:29:04 thank God you don't have my brain. Yes. Just drive straight. And I think that is a lot of times that's what happens when talent and ambition don't have discipline. Does she not know what she fucking looks like? they would say, we need something that no one else has. I'd use Sharpie, and I'd give it to him. We all want to be the superstar. are they really scamming they're giving it away they're not selling it it's a

1:32:59 And I go, I know, I know. Right. You have such access to everyone, right? My dad, he'll try to tell me stuff. You're never gonna get some bullshit through. Well, the old days man people could lie about anything you had all those people with the the saddest things when you see a guy get called out on being a fake black belt. His name, he had a different name, but he came up with a name.

1:35:40 And so Eddie rolled with him one day. It's difficult to set up, and it's hard to get someone in, unless they just know nothing. There's finer points to the setup. He has a conversation with him on the phone. And he goes, you're a fucking liar. he tells us that this guy asked him to kill the guy i'm in my trailer actually getting ready to uh to go out for fear factor and i get this phone call

1:38:57 He had a friend. a trophy that's the same size as the bag bro it's so dumb it's so dumb so he says he went into the because the guy's a liar like he's so dumb he might have said he killed the guy when he didn't we would turn on their cell phones and listen to their conversations. And I'm giddy. their head no like i'm not saying a thing well and i'm like and you have siri do you have siri

1:41:35 The time now is, and it scares me. next thing you know, my phone rings and the cops go, yeah, when you were just talking about hide Yep, that's him. Oh, my God. Right, fake black belt and convicted murderer. into a position where he was writing for well obviously like if you're writing for mma uh mma it was just random so this dude who's a fake martial artist tricked people into hiring him to write.

1:44:47 So for people that don't know, Sakurai at the time was a legend in MMA in Japan. Because he was showing control with Nogi You see it anywhere? That was another jiu-jitsu match. What is that guy that fought in the ufc as well that Yeah, yeah. i know the guard yeah i know the struggle you're having with that motherfucker you know what's And, you know, he was very generous to me and he would say, look, come teach here.

1:48:10 And sometimes when I'm getting out of my head with thoughts or whatever, That should be out there. What are you going to do? There it is. I don't remember what he did. Oh, he's like he's got that surgical tool. Look at that. Get in there. It's like, what is the most effective way to participate in no- jiu-jitsu with the you know standard jiu-jitsu skills here we go he's

1:51:05 and I love that it's one and I trained there third and that was when extreme fighting was going on you remember extreme fighting. And that was when Extreme Fighting was going on. Remember Extreme Fighting? He was out of there. I was a white belt over there. That was his original I was training at Carlson Gracie's training at john jocks no it might have been 97 i went to john jocks it was like right around that

1:54:02 Jesus, dude. Dothan. And I remember it was the debut Well, I take a lot of supplements, too. and he was telling me how the art career was kind of taking off, My mom was visiting, and I was doing this drawing sketch. It was like 300 bucks or something. That's all you get? And I use it. my own money to buy supplies we don't have any and dude you wouldn't believe it in this country

1:57:19 They're just getting rid of it. where we get great letters and we've traveled to Virginia. Let them know about the two rules of life. You can't just want it and not put the work in behind it. Isn't it weird that that's not? Told me, maybe you should fix cars. really interesting is oh here's some of my stuff oh not terrible yeah that is uh from isn't that

1:59:59 So anyway, I had a terrible art teacher. I have a really cool one that I found recently. He told me this fucking asshole said the same thing to him. Yeah, you like to draw. Look at that. The logo of the school, the mascot, was a lion. I'm not drawing shit. You got to see it. It's got a lot of hill country. That's crazy. all there's a lot of exotic game preserves around and those things get out every once in a while

2:03:29 And what's the other one with an alpaca? coming to try to eat your chickens? because they look like cute kittens, and we know And they piss and they smell that everywhere. Don't shoot them. They're pets. No, they're everywhere, dude. because they were reintroduced they're thought of as exotic even though they're native to the area incorrectly they're vitals a lot of these uh asian animals and many of the african animals

2:07:05 far as the rib cage does elks have much larger lungs so neil guy like you have to you have to you're a good hunter if you get good at bow hunting you you you could really feed your family fairly I got a great taxidermist here. I think they call it a French mount where it's just a little fabric over the skull. Right. of those little, from her sleeping bag,

2:09:31 animal scimitar oryx it's like a whitish animal with these big long black horns really cool so those animals in their native habitat are very uh close to extinction they're very uh they're disturbance, overhunting, drought, and loss Yeah. You should. isn't that good for you i doubt it because it'll level it says yeah dude a lot of There's a lot of different minerals.

2:12:33 Yeah. Trinity spring. People are like, yeah, well, that went dry like four years ago Throw the Jew down the well. and magnesium you're beginning through that yeah there you go active. For me, I'm always like, I only musicians that I love, and I'm like, I follow them. I'm out. daily carry i'm not gonna show you all right well uh listen brother um i'm happy you uh initially

2:15:11 It's going to be kicked up and opened on January 4th. That's only for elite friends and people. where we roll around. run it's head up by all ex-seals. They'll take. run it run right to your station at the shooting range the guy's sitting there with a timer go Don't shoot your knees. So for a regular jiu-jitsu, we opened up a new school in Dripping right off 290.

2:17:46 It's in. Bye.