Joe Rogan Experience #1594 — Yannis Pappas Transcript

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0:00 the joe rogan experience train by day joe rogan podcast by night all day this is like the Brooklyn Bridge of. and then he made a joke he was like yeah if anyone talks to me i'll just shoot him and he I don't know how I'm gonna Who says that? I've had Franklin's Is fucking insane To chew it It'll go down With the cheese in it And it just slides off the rib

2:36 It's next level down. We're like, we think we're better than everyone and we're just, we're, it's just all bravado. It really is. And that is one thing that separates it and makes it superior to Los Angeles. It's true. I went to school in D.C., and that was the first time i left new york and i realized how segregated that city was and in new You will get legit Chinese food at 2 o'clock in the morning.

4:40 My worry is that it's not going to be that place again. I mean, that shit stinks. And, dude, I'm not exaggerating by saying the garbage was stacked seven feet high. That's another rat. get paid they get paid because nobody wants to do that's it you have to be strong right you gotta You're hilarious, because I know he's probably reading replies. because people can see your funny writing.

7:25 you doing like you want to go hug him yeah it's a it's a it's a negative evil place and actually i out of this i'm not getting getting any progress with my head. and I guarantee we would have a reasonable discussion yeah you know it's like it's just the worst way to communicate with people i remember once i was like doing some uh one of Twitter it's like the

9:15 podcasts probably inspire the most hate tweets ever. She's a wonder woman. I mean, it's the only show that has Mion and Elon Musk. and you're like, he's a cool dude. who happens to be an actor. We shit on her hard, more than actors in Hollywood. So they needed something to get their name out there. What kind of shit was happening in your life Yeah, it's probably Stanley Tucci.

11:35 You're silly. That's his side of the story. The real issue was not even just that, he left dishes behind which you shouldn't you're Yeah. He just like is this true comedian and he goes after everybody. They don't leave. Is it really? like you either work the city or you were a hack and I was always like god damn I guess I'm a hack they planning on reopening i heard they were i hope so i hope so you know it's a great place but

15:08 They had the best fucking cheeseburgers. I don't think they were doing food for a while. He was a Greek guy from Cyprus. he's like an 80 year old greek guy did you ever meet scotty um scotty was the the power lifter Yeah. like a bodybuilder your set was that was no one was doing that. You grow up, I mean, They're a little too aggressive. We saw a fucking giant brawl happen right in front of McDonald's.

18:41 and then there's like those guys just can't handle their liquor. Like nighttime, there's just piles of vomit everywhere. Yeah. Because they're kind of like the country. like when they make those videos, He's on it alone. Well, that's what he's doing now only. Just Daniel Day-Lewis. That movie. Yeah. I forget what movie it was, but I'm like, oh, De Niro is just getting paid.

21:27 where he's gonna have a moment that's not, like i should divorce her now like when we get in an argument i threaten divorce all the time Yeah, I'm trying. there with her I won't go even if she ever divorces me I will be nice to her state like it's you it's a legal contract with some people that you don't know and they're going And he's still paying alimony to a woman that, what did he fuck her so hard she can't work?

24:18 because I'm like, okay, look, the commitment of money is a lot, I'm committed. Yeah. like what are we doing like i'm not going dark with my friends right that's what i love about What year was this? When we did the New Fronts, we had Gronk come on. Outside, yeah. what year it was Vitor it's just like a calm and a peace Or if I walked around and I knew that 99.7% of the people I could fuck up,

27:03 I mean, when he was the champ. weidman and kane velasquez was another one the limitations of kane velasquez were the limitations He would break guys, and Kane was the same way. which is like amateur, high-level, world-class wrestling. outside of wrestlers ever reach. doesn't want him to fight that a lot of the other wide man never really got into that he was just into smashing people yeah smashing yeah just

30:14 He's just dedicated to smashing people. you know what the best the scariest thing that he ever said he goes i want to change his face yeah He won the third round, and that's probably the only round that Khabib lost in his entire career. I mean, he's a monster. to that level when he wrestles guys just different I mean he's a fucking beast Well, not just that.

32:58 need support and like a lot of times guys will have guys cut weight with them and they'll come So when he fought Conor, he wanted to change his face. He went to submissions faster than he has in any other fight he's ever had. They showed an x-ray of his toe after the fight. body obviously is uh ridiculous too but his body is ridiculous because of his mind yeah you know

34:56 Right. Islam Makachev is smashing people. There you go. They play a game of basketball where you don't dribble the ball, you wrestle, and they submit each other. Yeah, exactly. He filmed this. You know, it's like comfort is not a fighter's friend. Luke is tough, man. where you were advocating you can argue that, And MMA is so exciting because like you said, it's so hard.

37:32 sport that mimics an actual Well, that's what UFC used to be. And you're going, like even men are turning away. Yeah, and those crazies just take it and just patiently their face would turn into a pizza until they got like an ankle. was like 265 the guy was like 90 pounds bigger than him legitimately right yeah he armbarred him Well, Bruce Lee was the first guy that actually incorporated all these other different styles like judo and jujitsu and submissions.

40:14 you were taught that your style was the only style. working out with judo guys and that was a real wake-up call but the biggest wake-up call was That was the other thing. It's like they do it every day. So a jiu-jitsu guy always has an advantage unless the other guy also knows jiu-jitsu. watch because no one had ever seen a brazilian There's a few of those kicks to his lower leg that had put him in a bad place.

43:13 Right. They looked like He-Man characters. And everyone was like, Canseco's coming in. And he dropped dime on everybody. Why did he have to... They figured out a way to do a cream, That was the head of Balco. but at the time, so like 2000... I don't know if there's a reason why. When he wrote that book, was he still playing or was he suspended or something?

45:40 He fought for a while, you know. But it was one of those deals where he needed money, Yeah, I hate when like, yeah. Yeah. arts talent he really was a legitimate martial artist yeah and was training with kane velasquez man too i mean those are all over the island yeah See, Tiger Schulman's is a weird one because you would think, because it was a chain of karate schools, that, oh, it's kind of like McDojo-ish.

48:24 He looks like he's sculpted out of fucking granite. Damn. Coming for your fucking soul. Baseball should have just... I mean, they had a lot of very, very legit guys. I want to see it. We're like all these sports have adapted. something to speed it up or steroids or something yeah but people love it they like to get drunk and Cracker Jacks. And me and my buddy were coming home. And I was 14 at the time. We were walking. And we had to

50:51 And I walked up, and it was the craziest divine timing of all. was hanging from a chain so we hear the whoop when his heel slammed into the bag and then But what I saw was so insanely impressive that I immediately signed up. But it just appealed to me. that's what I need to do. You know, I just found my thing. is the time they spend writing. is two days a week,

54:31 And it's a workout. the way a guy like Bill turns over material yeah you know and I think if He was always great. I'm sitting there freezing on the sidelines watching. Kind of like the way Jack Johnson just kind of, shit while he was fucking you up. I don't think he was even, he might have been 200 pounds yeah you know like how good pull up how tall and how much did jack johnson weigh six foot tall yeah galveston giant a giant six foot

56:53 Because they didn't have any fucking food. Huge cock, I'm sure. man yeah shredded he was shredded built like uh like a modern elite athlete yeah and this is you that right there? he was born in, And all guys had top hats. in six years and had to lose well over 100 pounds to get back into his championship fighting weight what's that they cut the broadcast what's that

59:27 It wasn't that fight. let's figure out 1917, Jake. So one of his fights was the case it was like way late in his career they think like even like when he lost like lost betting on a white guy against Jack Johnson. 35? Well he Yeah. Richard Pryor changed comedy. And then there was Lenny Bruce. I think probably if we look back, podcasts are going to change comedy in some way because

1:02:36 changing people's conditioning well it's also the first time where famous people real right the benefit was in you like you know towing the line and you see that from actors today And I think one of the benefits of podcasts Right. Yeah. It's like, it's so strange that they have to cut every seven minutes for a commercial. I remember Fusion. makeup looks stupid.

1:05:22 Me and Jay, and there were some other people on the show, I used to hide from the makeup girl before the show. From friends, actually. I'm like, let's just. Because you can't do this. I don't mind. They actually like it if you look unmade up. well they made me do it on fear factor for like the first couple seasons yeah and then after a fun it's fun and he gets you jacked up and he's charismatic i like him a lot he has a strong opinion but like which is why i didn't get mad at him yeah but it didn't

1:08:43 And it's made him an amazing career I love that guy to death. And Stephen A. Smith had some points. to talk positively about the one who dominated and who had a spectacular performance. It's never I know everything about their history. You're talking about a guy who throws a ball into a net. You have a cup over your dick. You have shorts over your ass. That's it's your soul you're exposed you're literally naked you have a cup over your dick

1:12:04 show up you fan from a fan's perspective you're like oh that's the tone of mma for for that reason like you know They've certainly died in boxing. that thing and and it's applicable for sports it's applicable for football but i don't i don't think for what they have to go through, right? Where the consequences are as grave You can't go to a veteran.

1:14:49 I took my dad once. which was that Vietnam movie. And he's screaming at us while he's driving. He's scared. Wow. know you broke my basketball you know you break Mike Tyson's basketball he's And it's very, very appropriate for today. destroying their way of life. I mean. they report on everything. There's not enough news for them to cover. worst things that happen in austin texas i mean there's a car accident here and there is a murder

1:19:16 to go outside Like, it's not applicable to our life. Usually there's only one? And a hangnail. you can't disagree there. Yeah. Yeah. who mysteriously who had mysteriously gone missing oh shit and he actually did an interview him, yeah. lining of that like you're memorable at least you know least, you know? Yeah, here it is. Yeah. Like war is not going to be fought anymore where people storming your border or that's antiquated.

1:23:24 Well, the weird thing is that there was these demonstrations in Hong Kong and they've been vocal about it for a long time. it's a very eerie warning. And that's the dangers of that you agree with like yeah it's it's not good if someone gets on there and They don't stop at things that we can all agree are Yeah, I know the year Nazi if you guys but I think it

1:26:32 gave them license you're going like country like whoa whoa whoa what was that shit you said the other day right right you said that Yeah. let's take this effort they're going after andy no's book now let's get that out of stores let's with zip ties. Zip ties. deniers, so they're not wearing masks. No. This is it. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. photo of that guy like he has like a chimpanzee face yeah well you know i think you know i'm

1:29:12 But go to the one on the right-hand side. That is... Yeah, I think there's like four levels of humans there's like you got you're really dumb you got you're brilliant you got guys Don't say something stupid Figure out differential equations. of had the longest success. That's why they figured out the whole system, a big we're all free fuck but also that's weird the the real problem was the like being able to

1:31:48 Someone who was like mastered reality TV and Twitter, She asked him a question about disparaging women, How about like, I don't trust him, you know, but then we'd realize that we had fucked up. And I blame the media. I mean, the internet came and then you can also listen to astronauts and- But then like, you know, without it, there's no yang without a yang.

1:34:37 Politicians are celebrities now. Why am I listening and unfortunately, Now I got to listen to fucking Mario Batella, you know? What Austin's scared of with this california entire crowd can we jam 400 people into this place are you testing them yeah okay yeah and right we're in a bad space but is it the worst but no it's not adjust adjust you're i can't you

1:37:30 what it basically means is I don't remember which one she picked either. She chose him? And you could do that back then. Today they would rewrite it. They would. Like, she chose the girl. the girl that's fucking i'll put her on notice it's fiction yeah and you could do that back then today they would rewrite it they would like she chose the They're all figuring it out as they go along.

1:38:55 We didn't know. I'm a survivor. fun yeah he was a good dude man he was a fun guy the eye of the tiger guy and he would he would Yeah. And he's just every step of the walk. Comedy Central fucked it up. Him and Dave are still tight Come to the show was like, I got shot and then saving the world. But no, Where'd you hit it? And then a couple years later, the bullet came out.

1:42:28 Christian ladies and I went and got the x-ray and brought it back to my office and they all He was robbed and he was trying to rob because he knew that... Why couldn't a woman shoot me? car and tell my friend to drive which was stupid he kind of sped up and then kind of fell into the him because that club was always a problem so cops were always close by and uh yeah what year was this

1:44:48 set me up with it at and it was like PTSD I guess yeah and I'm an anxious person to begin with He was like, yo, man, yo, son, you're funny. Yeah. so thank you, Donnell. that when he connects, And he would just rip. And the first thing Burr said when he got up there, Chappelle's one of them. same place they're trying to make you laugh like the intention is important they're just trying to

1:48:46 Yes. It's like, and that's how- To be a Quaker? Parents just put me there, you know. So it's like they have a different, you get a pass or a fail. They make oats and shit. But, yeah, a lot of it is sitting in silence. headmaster was sitting right in front of us and he turned around and he still had that pre-coffee because we couldn't stop laughing.

1:51:02 where we're, You change what a thing is by putting it in quotes and just writing it. Have you ever invited any of these cocksuckers on your show that's it i just i i've thought about it in a bunch of different ways and i put myself in their They're going to defend comedy because everybody loves comedy. The most hilarious thing is when someone chimes in

1:53:44 All this works in my gender studies group. you know they take this chance yeah it's funny you know They don't need comedy. I don't even know what year it was. How many of you people are virgins? but it was a weird moment there's nothing creepier than someone And you know what? my wife look at me yeah but it was the other part of the joke was uh the the the woman in my act and the joke was like i'll do it with my hand i'd be like and i said what would make you think that

1:56:39 Yeah. when you get a little cause it was just like she took my hand how do these girls feel? came to the comedy store and i did the bit i did and and everyone's like you're gonna do the bit Remember we had that show, The Girls Next Door, Donnell could tell you a story. And I said to Donnell before, funny and he you know dono just like older comic was like i'd son do you son you know like and he

1:59:58 So I was on there. and then BET banned live comedy on that show after that. i even said the n-word well that's kanye west song yeah kanye uh no no uh that was jamie fox Yeah. He's got this perception of life that's very unique. Very underappreciated in that respect. you know what I mean cause I always feel like a lot of people They're like, all right.

2:03:14 It's $600. To like for illegal streaming they try to slip that in you slipped it in they did slip it in Bob Lazar, Flying Saucers They said the information was too small. They get you high as fuck. Yeah, and when you hold off for a while from something you really love And it looks like they printed a CD label on like you would do when you burned a mixtape

2:05:28 I hope they're, to be able to travel that far. we just fucking mind fuck yeah they don't have dicks anymore yeah they i think that's our future I mean, we are less biologically impaired or dependent than, say, the lower primates. If you look at, like, a chimpanzee, like, they're always, I mean, they're fucking shredded, We're so much more feeble than a gorilla.

2:07:48 single-celled organisms to multi-celled organisms to a some sort of a creature travel. That's us. right they started coming here in terms of you look at the historical uh ufo sightings So maybe you're right. Come on, guys. the headstone, Have more. Who gave us that? That's a lot of booze. What did I call it? with the cosmos I didn't pay too much attention to Stonehenge that is kind of

2:10:56 and that's what this is. This is his depiction of this, the vehicles that he was hired in the late 80s, early 90s to back engineer. Is that aliens had come down here and taken the lower primates and genetically manipulated them We think. I have a friend, Paul Verzi. He's like my best friend. their jewelry but he says and his too, because I asked his mom.

2:13:23 Because he's one of those guys that doesn't believe in that. jet pilot and he he scrambled to to encounter one of them off the san diego coast and it's a famous an intelligent thing so at this point like there we know that there are aliens like they then I'm not scared of aliens. you kind of come back around to the other side. Maybe because also politicians are falling victim

2:16:34 and liberal arts and started like slowly pushing this kind of anti-American, we're always the killed more black we kill whatever's closest you know and slavery is horrible and american slavery You know what's the darkest truth? Saudi Arabia, they still had slavery until like 1960s they had still had slavery. You could literally watch. and not just murdered, but murdered with a fucking knife up his asshole.

2:19:08 seen that I think it all it it all comes out look it's been thousands of years of human civilization there's going to be a number of people, And that's what I think. man i mean they were they if you look at the early Islamic world, they were the And we need to educate people as to why that's awful, And what's important is discussion and logical discourse.

2:22:23 And that's the only way we'll get better is if there's champions of that. You saying that, that just what it is it is and that that's that's the only way we'll sure up their arguments, that don't want the world to be a better place. but I think he was arguing for it in this really convoluted, bizarre world of influence and power and bankers and special interest groups.

2:24:25 people that are like on the right that that don't that they don't like my love of obama but when But what I like about Trump is Trump gave support to the military in a way that Obama things. figure and the whole world is hanging on every word you're saying so that's what obama was really Yeah. Humans are—he was great this position, becomes the president. Yeah.

2:26:44 That's what I like about them. It's then they keep going where it's like we're at this point like exists let's be honest i had an argument with a professor about that once where he was like And there's exceptions, right? do you know that from is it because science told you that there's been different cycles of climate called women let's call them women but then let's start calling women who can give birth mortal gods.

2:29:21 You're like, well, then you're fucking discriminating against trans women yeah for not allowing them to give birth i mean like what are we doing and you see with like there's a there's a couple of athletes now who have just dominated there's there's advantages and how come we don't hear this She's always been a woman. I know what men are built like.

2:31:34 This is all science. I can tell you that I think that they're what I've said out Why can't they be two beautiful things? They shut you down and call you a TERF. Martina Navratilova. I mean, she is a fucking icon of the LBG without the T. He had a bit about it too. Like, lesbians are different than gay people. and doing ecstasy a bit about Boys Town because it's right down the street

2:35:06 No one can get pregnant and everyone's on speed. I'm like, lesbians don't develop neighborhoods because a warrior there's that thing and're an activist or a warrior, There's so many people expressing ideas. little boring the truth is a little boring like you've actually said Well, the discourse spread. I got something to say too. You handle it well, man.

2:38:55 And that's all I think about. and answering questions on Twitter. a lot of why you've handled so well performing at a bar live. sort of a person of the people because you if you get too big it becomes like that steve martin And I'm like, what the fuck is this? You need to work out. that you feel do you think that's in any way tied to having children because i know i've had like

2:41:37 I called him and I was like, you're right, Bill. And now that I have a newborn, it's like I've experienced this kind of rebirth of hope. I want the beautiful precepts that this country was built on to survive. You know? What's that? And I would put a camera on them. a monster. of the environment that you evolved and grew up in, the people that you encountered, the love

2:45:11 all of them all my favorite people grew up in the most tortured and and and and and and confusing But I was like, it's so hard for you to recognize that your life is easy. And I don't know how much to expose you to. communication other than expression I want to express to you how what I've I think of what was Jamie like when he was a baby. that were wrong, and he didn't get hugged enough

2:48:13 He's not. Yeah. You know, when the tech revolution hit on top of the industrial revolution uh and then the advances someone else's shoes you don't evolve it's like everyone is kind of just really really bunkered Yeah. I remember that when I was a little kid. this shit to happen it's like you're fucking famous and richer than 99 of the white men that

2:51:47 Well, there's also the lack of these kind of conversations. I think he's, right? And because of that, And I want to understand it. Because I'm a comedian. It all worked out. I really think that's part of what's going on. from it's possible is it just getting hit in the head because i'll take a few blows to be a better person it's possible i'm joking around

2:55:52 That's not really sewn into the fabric of America, unfortunately. Yeah, but that's scared America. What comes with the position of being, whether it's the number one podcaster or the president You want tiger blood. yeah no he's in trouble now good ones yeah charlie sheen had a good i don't know if he had a good one yeah i don't i think I've spent so much time with people who work with brain injured people and people who deal with sick people.

2:58:44 saying not being selfish doing this selfless thing and like those are the people that keep one bad cop becomes defund the police. podcast as a joke you know just for for fun and goofs has become like a legitimate place to You probably even got advice like, Ari's one of my best friends, money right that was part of it i was like i don't care what people listen to right you don't have to

3:01:34 we need more people talking about shit. Right. Yeah. It's not going anywhere. There's always a place for carpool karaoke, yeah. Yeah. And it's, I liked him as a fighter. In three, four hours, fucking let's get to know these people. it's like, Fucking 10 hours. that would go on live show that's special also that like everything is like curated and everything is uh filtered and censored and gone through a series of executives and producers and networks but some things aren't

3:05:42 That was sort of seen as reality yeah that's coming in Philly nah man I love you and like I hate you you're a liberal yeah he was just I mean I lean left but you're a cuck say he was like calling me a liberal cock and like i hate you're a liberal then you have to reconcile that with the reality of like hey that's coming out of somebody else's it's because everyone wanted the benefits of socialism,

3:08:01 right i mean it is social security yeah your parks your police fire that fires are put out so that everyone's house doesn't burn down we all agree yeah we we need Absolutely, yeah. If you could see that, more people – taxes wouldn't be as maligned as they are. who's dying, Really? She was just a bitch, maybe. as women get older they cut their hair shorter shorter because they don't want to have like a

3:11:37 She was my age, but she was more advanced. She was from Norway. Yeah. But we only hung out for a little while. It's like Rosa, Rosa, Nana. this girl was like weird she was weird but i remember meeting her i'm like i feel like i was Their government's really, they have like a fund where they don't spend all the money. would say like the swedes because they go work in like the bar industry in the service industry and

3:14:35 Really? Bye, bye, bye. And they don't, you know, they just go, he's American. I don't know if it's because they were doing eugenics or whatever, especially in Sweden. Yeah, it's gorgeous. They are. Next is white. They speak four languages. They're bugged out. They like have Asian eyes, but they're like blonde. Yeah. Yeah. Why? No. good luck fuck face they love their culture they got good stuff they got good cheese and stuff

3:18:55 Like seven times. Well, it's spelled Duvel. Budweiser gets warm. I haven't Oh that's why Except for fucking. You want to be cozy fucking. is like one of those countries finland sweden or norwell in the north they got a weird tribe of No. Yeah. We should go to Skinny and be like, have you tried the fucking Chick-fil-A chicken sandwich? I'm like, whatever.

3:21:38 They're legitimately the only fast food, like major fast food chain that's closed on Sunday. Arenas. little stale but he's fucking killing it doesn't have to be good yeah he's just like there's not a Which one? Jesus! does have an earpiece in yeah and he does i love that the cold reading is like is anyone here did She crushes Of course not It's like she wants you to know she's full of shit.

3:24:24 Make that bigger so my fucking old eyes can read it. Go to the photos. i want to see the people documentary about the guy who tried to prove those guys wrong and did it oh what's he oh god but he did it before Darren Brown. It's sad. Yeah, people are people want to be manipulated. They reality is kind of like Maybe your dog is. Comes back. well the weirdest the weirdest description of uh life i ever read was this guy was

3:27:32 Do you love your friends? The times, you know, you ratted out your sister. Like, I mean, death kind of gives everything meaning and i wasn't sleeping i had to take i took how long this covet has made you better? that always think about ourselves. but being with my daughter and my wife is just like nothing i just want to be with my daughter Yeah. And that made me scared to a mile.

3:31:47 Yes, yes. a true thing and you almost don't become a better person unless you have adversity there's no it's Like, if you think Conor was in the flow, Do you think that eats Conor up? I don't know. You know, really fast punches and kicks and just tries to end you quick. You're like, this guy's strong here, striking. kids. They're scared. Parents are paying just no struggle. They're scared.

3:34:35 If this was my political platform. Isn't that? Like just jump them one night. There's some people that get through five years they rise yeah it's like we don't want to deprive people of certain folks all right, I'll remove it from my platform then. Yeah, it's a, you can't put a timeline on evolution. like spearfishing, right? That's us like a million years ago, whatever.

3:36:32 Because they don't have the distractions. Yeah. What drugs are you scared of? Hmm. Yeah, everything felt scripted. one of my friends we all thought everyone was here for us like uh i like uh the being like super paranoid oh my god i get worried about like i'm i'm gonna be a better person yeah yeah that's it's a scary thing that you always survive Breathing is huge.

3:39:51 Yeah. That's how I think about myself. learn something I'm gonna have a I'm gonna have a revelation what was your That I can't recover from. How many minutes in? Realized. Well, that's the best way to bring back the economy. French laundry boy. Make it legal and tax. And all the maintenance to look good and get your tits done. But we have to recognize that gold digging is not that much different than prostitution.

3:43:52 and interrogate her. Or Zero chance. Yeah, no, that's the same thing. It's a choice. No. up and some guys need to come and you just just need, you need, those are needs. Yeah. Right. Yeah. They go, what the fuck, man? So what's Cuomo's plan? Legalize gambling Now all the rich people have it mattered but when the shit hits the fan and someone could shut down restaurants you're like

3:47:30 I think New York needs a Republican mayor. In every, throughout history, Yeah. yeah you know that i didn't know that but you didn't know that no she sold sweatshirts Yeah, yeah. You should be. This was so much fun. Praise Odin.