Joe Rogan Experience #1600 — Lex Fridman Transcript

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0:00 the joe rogan experience train by day joe rogan podcast by night all day And they're just. Do you know, remember Michael Malice? same haircut as me which I don't even know what that He's an interesting guy. You don't even know police. Like, what are you you talking about but he's a brilliant guy brilliant it's uh it's interesting It's like, wait a minute.

2:50 I think he's highlighting that for red-pilled folks that there's sometimes a cynicism about the future of the world, It's always going to be greedy people who take power and take control. So the idea of anarchism is that you're supposed to, in this emergent way, form groups and agree together how those groups should operate. Different state, that's the whole idea.

4:30 The current. Yeah. i don't i don't want to misuse terms but the step back from the anarchist view is, you know, we should get government out of most things. to be removed off the table yeah yeah that's the biggest problem because with when you have He's one of the best alive at it. And he has a free pass because he's gay. Yeah. His Twitter feed's amazing.

8:00 And he was like, this is also a really nice tent. It might even be deleted now. There's tents all the way up on Highland. Our tent isn't even that nice. How do you put that genie back in the bottle, Lex? Well, yeah. And the concern is that when you are too lenient on the homeless folks and just allow them to camp wherever they want, shit wherever they want, they just do it.

11:06 who are struggling well i think it shows that there's a problem with people losing a place to state government just seems incompetent at solving this particular problem but it also seems to be You can't just keep doing this forever. The long-term consequences on the economy are going to be potentially orders of magnitude worse on the fabric of our society.

13:41 I've been listening to that. This guy's legit. steers yeah yeah but the michael malice devil uh argument is that you know that's one way for the You have to have an incentive to do that. no economy i don't think that i think that's like one of them doom and gloom q anon type deals yeah do that and everybody starts getting tested at the the individual level, the accuracy is not perfect.

16:37 He's been screaming about this. Do the crappy at-home tests have a lot of false positives? about to come up um ice or no ice uh no ice please I'm afraid of Silicon Valley now. I don't understand. So culturally, the whole kind of defund the police culture is affecting the stability of the society. over again people do this in a place where it's literally the highest real

20:18 If with that little app or change the world, it's large scale thing where do you go right here baby It's calling you. And then, of course, there's people who are like, Woo! Because you're an Android guy. Like one message back and forth And I know Samsung has an equivalent to AirDrop now that's supposed to be pretty functional. It took an hour and a half.

23:22 Finally, they got it. brick of a 12 just sitting in my dresser hmm it's like the buying the treadmill that you never use or jamie and i were just talking about the ableton uh live push sorry what's it what is it yeah that's a little deep incredible, yeah. Oh that looks dope it does look pretty dope the well but the point is it's a symbol of all my failures in life because

25:42 record just the basic just even our conversation how do i record that and and then you have to realize there's like you have to be a little bit less harsh on yourself because you're very productive the problem with I could just, like, I said, I'm in. He calls me within seconds of me posting that. Then he calls, and he's like. Let me me hear his video let me hear what he says started from the beginning all right that time of year again the second annual four by

28:35 midnight, different times. This is all for charity. Didn't have anything to give away. I've been giving away. Yeah. Oh, Jesus Christ. Trust me on it. I was like, alright. that's why you don't have any fucking time but that that those are the demons you have to face Really? of training with killers without getting injured so don't you know make sure

32:33 And so maximizing that allowed me to just be lucky, honestly, because you can be just unlucky. And it just popped. I really should have gotten myself in a better position and just used my shin and instep Hold on a second. And if they do, I'm not, this isn't like a challenge, sorry, for me. I try not to judge people in regular life, but in jiu-jitsu I'll judge them harshly in

34:54 That are creative. puts on the on the knees yeah he's got a very unusual game too like his students people but my god the break dancers of today follow stance elements on instagram the break Look at this. All of it but this has just like creativity and he's doing it to music and he's dancing to Funny. I believe it. control is just incredible the flexibility is incredible the explosiveness and the control

40:19 I'm very excited. Who do you got? Michael Johnson hits very hard, and he caught him with a perfect shot I saw that you put up the numbers. Someone's on top of the guy and beating him up and holding him down for five rounds. back and forth I know it's weird it is. So there's like a lot of love back and forth. Fascinating human being. like that is tight

43:14 He gets that close to defeat because he's fighting world-class fighters. the businesses that they build, You know, you have the Bovasi, Asetiev. You know, we first talked about it a long time ago, but he was struggling with his English. But his English is much better now. Yeah, it's really good. I would have him on anytime he wants. You know, we first talked about it a long time ago,

45:05 thoughtful about life. With Joey Diaz. That worked out. the going back and forth. He really did, yeah. Khabib. I'd love to just sit silently and translate. He's not. He does it, okay. Yoel. Yeah. Looks like a Greek god. Look at him. I'm glad you had him on here. attention of the media of the the love of the crowds it's it's a different world they do it for the love of wrestling and the love of competing in one of the most difficult physical

49:30 I think, that amazingly well. I talked to uh so jordan that it only got not much views relative to others and i was like this is one of the most special He let himself get distracted. Obviously, he has daughters and family, so he's, like, softened up a little bit. Even as an older man. Yeah. Should shoulders as well And he's never succeeded. I spent a day with him i spent a day with uh

54:13 i don't know so whatever but i was the the what made you change your mind uh like uh a bunch of the iowa folks non-stop messaging me like where the fuck he we sat down on the couch and just watched these like documentaries about people being life small town life yeah there's good and bad you know right there's a Whether it is, whatever the variables are, whatever the things are that they don't like about the Democrats.

57:15 the way he was with the Obama administration, It's a weird way of chastising people that don't share your ideas and in terms of white supremacists or racists I mean, one of the things that I do does bother me about sort of the, I don't know, is it the left or something, is not loving this country unapologetically. like naive or delusional support for america like everything america does is right

59:50 You could just love this country and be skeptical of all leaders that attain power. Too much work. tens of millions of people died. China, Russia, Europe, obviously, just they had to for a century Yeah, it's crazy. And it's always like an exciting, it's like Christmas or whatever. You mean 2020, right? One, he got a lot of shit in this level of optimism.

1:03:18 extremes it's poetic it's beautiful of the person who was there so it was written in the 90 uh i want to say 60s and 70s by a person who was a journalist that lived through it and it's just Very, very difficult. that that stance you know and saying you know being self-deprecating and saying he's not a not a historian Because I think it's the most useful to understand because it's so modern.

1:06:18 What was the criticism about the Trump episode? and to be able to once it gets going, you're going to have a really believe that i think deep down in our hearts we know that a charismatic leader with all of the wrong intentions, Like those words, and there's a real question of whether or not those words were inciting and whether or not what he did was illegal.

1:09:35 Yeah, that's a really good point because you have to read his words exactly. you could probably attribute most of the Nazi regime I can't remember. and he meets Mussolini, and he just starts ranting. interesting relationship with mussolini but mostly he was always on board he was like but can we just there's an element of like Jeffrey Epstein style smoothness and charisma

1:12:39 to the point where he's not buying anybody's bullshit and he met met with Epstein, and he said right away, but he's also flawed. First of all, Eric has gotten that is their kryptonite. kryptonite for scientists. For dorks. That's why he saw through the bullshit. in the darkness it's it's possible no no no no no no no he's saying that he's a part of the

1:15:15 been that he was either a What I was saying is, if you wanted to compromise, cheers, sir. There's two ways you would compromise the scientific community. With the promise of But it's not a matter of integrity. The compromise. that they were working on and then you have other scientists that are also going to be there hey this guy's going to be there

1:18:32 Yeah, no worries. initially to begin with but i mean who fucking knows we're we're we're throwing a lot of tattooed that on whatever no this is from like more like legitimate science i i i ignore it manual human operations of vehicles it It's complicated, but yes. Can I try to lay it out just real quick? No driver. It's trippy. It's great. What is that?

1:22:26 You're right on the Chrysler. They don't. It has all the intelligence. we both have the same ancestors it feels weird to let a robot control your whole life as it's traveling 50 miles an hour. they're mastering Phoenix, Arizona currently. To hundreds of thousands of people. Watch this, baby. the comedy store when i was tired so like i'd be there hanging out and it'd be like 1 30 in the

1:24:53 Just relaxing, where I can just hold on the wheel and pay attention to the road a little bit, kind of weirded out by the fact they're doing this yeah yeah I mean I don't know So, like, it's now able to, for the people in the beta program, Service announcement. I'm just kidding. And some of those are in the hardware. a background in AI, drinking whiskey,

1:27:56 One of the only people? Apple Android is a good analogy. waiting for the people i switch because people a lot of people are switching i talked to moxie They had an outage a couple, a few days ago. So it was this weird plea to Big Brother to look in on everybody and to make sure that everything's Some people don't see both sides. Millions flock to Telegram.

1:31:14 NBC's disinformation team the Clinton administration seized the Oklahoma City bombing to demand backdoor access to all encryption. You should be able to say things privately between each other. torn about the whole banning of all these different accounts of social media. the ability of banning your number, I don't think that's crazy. Yeah, I would...

1:34:32 to where you're not even close to that side of the spectrum. But here's the thing, man. And you see these guys with like flannel shirts on where their bellies are poking out and the buttons are stretching because they're so fat. some secret intel on the u.s government by q and q is got he's got they know they know i got more oh shit i got a lot more people coming i've been doing like an alien interview once every

1:37:37 He's brilliant. not affected by the sun's gravity, it's it's uh most likely to be a disc yeah which is course jeremy says flying saucer like of course Cigar shape? But you know what, man? are doing is trying to evolve human communication whether it's through biology or whether it's Are the Proud Boys evil or was it all just a joke? intentions and maybe some people that you thought were bad or not bad maybe they're really good

1:42:13 know what the fucking the family history of these demons from hell like this is a I think on the path to reading each other's minds, And I think despite the media and all that, out for make a better life and it's gotten better and better and better better because of that kind I was trying to bring Spot here. It's a robot dog, folks. collars yeah no that's right It has to be custom made.

1:44:59 I'll get you one. I'm like, hi. herniations by keeping everything in alignment but just twisting operating against resistance you never not going to be like yeah jerk off jerk off yeah exactly uh that because girls wrist curls so i get tendons don't want that the overuse injury there injury. There's a fine line between this idea of 40%, like people quit at 40%, pushing past that,

1:48:04 Age and love. I preservation choices because i think um you you i look i i love david i love david goggins and i Puts in his fucking punches o'clock every day. And the other one broke David Goggins' pull-up record. to the doctor we were in vegas went for the fights and he had something fucked up his foot it turned When you see Cam Haines, you see a guy who's like this fitness,

1:51:51 Fred Bear is the legend. pound bow so all these other bow companies or all these other bow hunters rather a few of them that but he's built like The Undertaker and he weighs 300 pounds, Your problem is with yourself. puts in another 10 miles during lunchtime. He's just nice. Have a good day everybody Sorry Is because It wakes you up. Yeah, his wife.

1:55:20 In a puddle of sweat on the carpet. before uh before all the shit went down and she was like he's he's nice he's normal he eats bread Drops down to the pushups He knows he's got an inner bitch Like as if he was, like he pushes his mind to do things that the body does not want to do. It's this badass movie Oh that's right you did like legitimately yeah i'm Not that great of a movie.

1:58:38 No one does it better. Is that historically accurate? That guy. We text. He does pretty good judo and jiu-jitsu, which is, I got to give him credit for that. I mean everybody. That's why I like superhero movies the russian bathhouse boom boom great it's going great you still you still i keep cheating though yeah i keep cheating with this is the problem with carnivore because i've been eating carnivore thing going? Great. It's going great. You still... I keep cheating, though.

2:01:40 But I'm lean. body though it's interesting right yeah it's weird it's like weird. There's a recovery to it, but it does make you feel really good. Like mentally super, super. I think the problem with the environment polyface farms or there's a there's the company piedmontese farms they just sent me some beef Butcher Box, they use all grass-fed, grass-finished beef,

2:04:56 i think you need to understand that that death for an animal that is essentially a prey animal. Like if you look at this, this weird mandala, The way they get eaten is horrific. ethical question it's a debate and it should it should be handled. You can have a respectful conversation about this. it's devastating to the wildlife, it's devastating to small mammals,

2:07:46 I would, I don't know how to put it into words, my gratitude towards that, yeah. But health-wise, I think I feel better when I eat a lot of meat. we'll look back and say this is was a really fucked up thing that we did as a society i'm not And are we acknowledging that there are certain – there's a lot of people that are vegan almost cult-like. But they also have some good points. Like they're not killing

2:10:21 ignorant made me realize you could actually do it as part of, like, multimillion-dollar-funded studies. what he calls a creative, like somebody like you, a comedian, um maybe alcohol but that was it's like it's like saying So that's not the sense. But I didn't want to just jump right into it for a little bit and i felt a little clunky with my descriptions of things but then we got into drugs and once we got into drugs

2:14:18 Yeah, that's, it's funny enough, like, so you talk to Avi Loeb about psychedelics like what's of so much more than you were cognizant of. And I think our ideas of drugs, our negative ideas of drugs, are a lot of times they're flavored with the limitations of human personality lot of like fucked up words and you say a lot of shit you probably shouldn't say i'm like well i'm

2:16:54 There's nothing to do with psychedelics of a fighter He's laughing. It's post-fight. a more pedestrian, a more placid life. The other one was on the side of his head. not even it's almost a way to embrace the dual nature of life, that it can be really shitty and really beautiful. And so comedy, that's why it sucks that the coronavirus is keeping a lot of comedians locked up.

2:19:43 and he said the most inappropriate joke. the world as it as it was it'll be back again and the real ones like ron white and dave chappelle There's a broad spectrum i remember like i would feel like when i was uh when i first moved to la i didn't have any friends Like, what am I doing here? It's going to be okay. I'd probably be just like a lot of these fucking idiots that are online raging about the world and looking for acceptance and looking for social justice brownie points and virtue signaling at any turn, hoping that it gets me some love and likes.

2:22:43 it was. I got to. It's like the complete opposite of Dan Carlin. to just pushing back there's a lot to discuss there but like they they helped push uh stall Yeah. just i wanted to ask like because you mentioned about friendships in la and so on like are you I think, so what I heard, maybe a slight romantic thing. Usually it was like Joey Diaz shooting shit for the years, right?

2:25:53 my friend brendan chobb was just he drove his bike down the comedy store the other day like trying to plan ahead that if he's going to be continued being married, The reason why I don't bring my wife up too much is she doesn't really like it. lightly you know if i if i didn't think i didn't like her i wouldn't be well see i say i wouldn't I had children.

2:28:51 okay imagine if you did that to your best friend like lex you and i are friends i love you i think he gets rid of her and cashes her out for a new model and then she's fucked And I think as a guy who grew up without a father, without my real father, And it doesn't mean that I love my wife any less. I don't love and that's about awesome things Yeah, I really do.

2:31:58 Yeah. It was horrible to be around, to be a little kid, My grandfather's name was Joseph, my grandmother's name was Josephine. of bad ones growing up especially when i was broke when i when you're broke and you have like and like if I found out about it, there was a relief. I keep hearing 50%, but it's something ridiculous. You know, you know, Or Putin.

2:35:03 Oh, good job for you. he got divorced he's been divorced for 14 years he's been married to a new woman for 12 years he It causes some men to look at women as like parasites. That's the scam. a baby man the weird feelings that you have about love like the the the intensity of the love, it's so overwhelming. I used to think, well, that guy's a fuckhead.

2:38:51 and the athletes and the musicians and the this and the that you can get famous doing a thing that you love or you can try to be famous. Like how does someone get famous? podcast in the world and just all, like, do you look in the mirror and see I think so so i see that myself to a president or something like that but I I think I got a slow drip of

2:41:54 different than anything I've ever done. Have you seen the memes? So many awesome memes of him doing different things. I think he stood for what he really truly believed. and I don't know, maybe I'm a romantic, if they work a job. And, you know, the economists be damned. I don't know if they're right. I don't I was confused. She served... Stress? those people and it's like these the merchants of hate out there trying to spew their vitriol on people.

2:46:17 Crazy people? platforms there's a there's a complexity to that human being oh for sure when you hear a story it she kept inserting her obviously liberal point about this bitch she was always mean and, she always complained and blamed other people. james i got we were talking about putin a second ago about being the richest man in the world i've It has 50 million views in two days.

2:49:36 I haven't seen a video get that many views that quick in a long time. They're like, one of the guys that was looking into this brings up that they have a- They're bringing up this, it's a stripper room, in the world that's that comrade can we take the video down according according to him he like owns This is what I mentioned with is he's really good at his job, actually, of being a manager, of being president.

2:51:50 You can have positive perspectives on it. calling you out on your bullshit if you're corrupt he's actually really good at fighting it bothers a lot of people, especially in the West. And if you love the idea of freedom, But ultimately, we want to be free to pursue the thing that we love doing, whatever that is. breaks that slow you down and so like the left defines that as saying you know if you're a

2:55:41 And then really effectively in Putin's Russiaussia all of those freedoms are kind of absent he was talking about Obama. And I think I'm better today than I was yesterday. your best interests. And I'm going to try to do my very best to run this country the right way. in place as corrupt as it is as as fucking entangled with money as it is but if there was

2:58:41 I think the question is whether, in your case, fame. I like letting people know about you. I'm 100% aware of it. There's, I think, how many people can really talk to putin and being and say nobody Human beings do that. He's legit. Although, I think Wikipedia says I have a belt in judo. They have refined technique. He really loved judo. But I'm also fascinated by Donald Trump. I'm fascinated by the man but I'm also fascinated by Donald Trump

3:02:17 is a good speech With a beautiful speech. I think he's way more fascinating than people give him credit for. If Kennedy lived, who knows what we'd think of him. I mean, he was the smoothest and the cleanest in not because they're easy, because they're hard. general one about in a lot of ways We'll end it with this Goofy watch? Like one of what a watch is for, bro.

3:05:51 bottom that's yours that's yours you see the moon on the bottom of it do you see that this is a happy You can't get this back because you just did it on record. and I want you to have it. but uh fuck man but you see the little moon thank you so much you see it at the bottom I love them. because it's beautiful it's a beautiful high resolution image of the moon with like little

3:08:26 a day or i forget what the what it is but also with a complication there's this crazy complication Different kind. can do anything I want with my life. The free bird leaps on the back of the wind and floats downstream to the current ends and his tune is heard on the distant hill, She's an incredible person, and this is an incredible country. Goodbye, everybody.