Joe Rogan Experience #1612 — Robert Bigelow Transcript

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0:00 The Joe Rogan Experience. It means a lot to me. my grandparents had a very close encounter that was dramatic. And they were taking an afternoon, evening drive And my mother had told me this story. but what was the shape of it as it got closer? And the family had an event that kind of started things at that date. had done and Russia had done and that there was a lot of interest in in obviously in that well

4:15 And there's a direct uptick, though, from the Trinity experiments, right? So, you know, that wasn't necessarily an exclusive event, is what I'm saying. be laying in bed on my side and a typical dream always the same there would be three short but there was nothing in the whole genre of comic books Maybe I would be embarrassed to talk about it. But I'm better off not knowing anything, so I'll just block it off and forget about it.

8:32 and we repeated it three times so that the margin of error regression, not personally, but I found a hypnotherapist that could do that. That this style of hypnotic regression and bringing up these very specific scenarios to a bunch of different people, But my experience was with different hypnotherapists, they went out of their way. Supposedly, if somebody has a very close encounter with supposedly somebody that's ET.

11:59 people that did not know each other and particularly we're talking about before social media before any of this stuff right they And then everything just started pouring out. just talking to her And then she tells me Yeah, we talked about it. I've talked to people like Bob Lazar. And the same thing with, well, like Ken Arnold's sightings. And the shape that he described was, I've always thought of them a little bit of a manta ray shape without the tail,

16:30 And they're trying to figure out what the hell these people saw, but something that sped by them at some insane rates of speed, and there's a recording of them discussing it. a long cylindrical object flying right over the top of the plane as he was flying. have been evident that it had some kind of propulsion. of a mistake right yeah i mean but so it's just yeah there's a lot of those that's the problem

18:36 I believe it was infrared, the camera And they're kind of freaking out. It wasn't just lights. But it was, though, right? He had a guy dress up like an alien and made a mockery of it. what they aren't, whether or not they're some sort of top secret aircraft And my feeling is that the government is not that organized anymore. And then there was all sorts of sort of semi-reasonable explanations

22:46 were seeing well there were people living on camelback mountain and that at that this is how Yeah. pretty spectacular zoom capabilities it's pretty interesting stuff if you got that took a photograph of some similar shaped object, Do you know what I'm talking about, Jamie? Oh, a different one? I don't know. We may be talking about different ones maybe i don't know okay uh break sorry breaking uh debrief media has learned the leak of an unclassified photo said to have

25:49 david fravor's experience with the tic-tac ufo off the coast of san diego that sort of like You didn't care? And so we had to shut down because of the COVID. hail marys and part of it is because of your obsession with extraterrestrials space okay now yeah i think those are those are full scale uh architectural renderings Do you contact engineers? for a lot of reasons.

31:12 There wasn't a manual saying, here's how you do this. And so we started from scratch and we had no assistance from NASA whatsoever in arranging the architectures and engineering. And then through And we finally engineered envelopes Kind of crazy, but for some reason that... And there's something called secondary radiation that propagates. you start to evolve a shield.

34:54 And so assuming you've located it now, anything you put there wants to stick to the wall right? But depending on a Like, why did you invest in this? And so I was looking for some place to go, He has so many awards, you hardly can count them. So many people have. are they with NASA? NASA is financially hurting, everybody hurts. Depending upon who is providing the leadership,

39:30 You're definitely going to learn. Oh, no. I think it's a combination of things. They might brown bag it, you know. Not bring it to the lunch at commissary where other people can see what you're reading. Well, as I could speak to, you know, just the general science population But the thing about the UFO ET subject, as you continue to do research and work in that whole community,

43:14 and and here we are still in 2021 and um still waiting to get back to the moon well i think when you know, all full respect. Yeah, it is. The event happened in Like they knew, it knew where they were traveling to. that were tracked by instrumentation. everybody has to kind of go, huh. so afraid of ridicule how long is it going to take us to get to that point right you know and

46:35 sure but instead of that it's actually your consciousness yeah and what if you're not even Well, and our physics is incomplete, in my humble opinion, Like micro, macro, PK. and your challenge is to have the two lines deviate. You're causing it to go up or you're causing it to go down. Small objects. Something small. best he is the best so what is she doing here? Well, she's...

50:34 Right. below the table i can't see if there's a bad a magnet i can't see what's underneath this sources as possible you'd really have a large volume of stuff and then you'd have a lot of that as the human animal evolves they'll eventually develop some sort of a psychic Okay. Well, it's an albino, right? Right. We know that there's people that are just not that bright.

53:54 But, I mean, if you go back to Nikola Tesla, it's sort of the same sort of situation, right? makes a person create something. Some people are really good at picking out talent. I think a lot is possible. So whether it's clairvoyance or telepathy or psychometry, micro, macro, PK, remote viewing, the whole basket. Yeah. But their official conclusion was that it was horseshit, right?

58:04 I think there would probably be at a point in time it was classified for a long time. a remote viewer could almost taste it, boat dock there are a lot of boats and maybe the gravel pathways getting there maybe they're having They would be in that kind of a position. achieve a certain state of meditation? Like what did they do to do this? So they would be in a room and with a

1:01:30 and who figured it out initially? repeatable skill like something that you could teach someone how to do right yeah and and i believe what i've been told is is that um most people have some degree of abilities that are I mean, you could do something thousands of miles away And so you have actually experienced this That's pretty big. who manage the programs

1:04:22 He's passed over. but they go to a lot of effort so that maybe even the person that's with you doesn't know Then he starts describing this other craft that's following behind the sub. coming in and out of the water well that was part of the tic-tac the commander david fravers and the Tic Tac craft faced them, was that that's when they were launched to go check it out.

1:08:02 Yeah. we've been seeing these things over the last few weeks. Well, I don't think they have a choice. done nothing yeah it's a very strange situation to be in to be you know the a fighter pilot with the and a bottle of gas, helium. breeze and Bob lets it go and we're on the opposite side of the mountain range from supposedly s4 Bob said he worked for Area S4 and he was hired to back engineer what they believe were alien crafts.

1:12:16 that we really can't do with any of our conventional aircrafts. And then Bob gets that I'm pretty much aware of. know wednesday nights to go see something out there i kind of missed out on that or whatever So obviously they had already met. this stuff that's just a theoretical element And the more he talked, the more interesting it became. I I I would tend to say Bob is is legitimate um and uh you know, there are certain aspects of things that are parts of stories

1:15:52 And exposed all the different aspects of this story that seem to indicate that he's telling I go by reasonable doubt. and really did work on these spaceships whatever they are that's what where i'm at right now my trying to observe them and back engineer them. are trying to understand the propulsion system and then you've got people that are giving you

1:19:03 And that fellow observed it from a distance like that book that he talked about years ago coming across. whatever the stories were became a hologram. about the origins of human beings surfaces that we created or fly in planes They find semi-intelligent, curious animals that are using tools or using opposable thumbs, and they do some things to them.

1:22:44 I'm here. I don't want to look a gift horse in the face i'll take it for what it is And so it gives you an awful lot to think about and to try to position as to how can you measure future information you might get against that story. and people like George, who's an investigative journalist, it gets more and more, wow. and to go walk through it with him

1:25:18 Just for our own edification? ever evolve to having a soul or a spirit you know so I mean that's a really that's that's a good it right now hey i'm living in the desert well listen they have movies in the desert i've been When is that going to happen? They're covered in hair. They have smaller heads. And then our heads are bigger. Our bodies are They communicate with thoughts,

1:29:35 either inanimate objects or combination biological material And so that is what it's like to be a human being. but there are many other demonstrations I mean, does everything have to be perfect? Or isn't there some beauty in having some the people that came before them it's part of being a person with everything with architecture you would say well what is this species doing what are they doing well i'll tell you what

1:34:41 Look at Johnny. He's got the new car. He's got the new phone. She's got the It's the stuff that puts us into space. to some sort of paradigm shifting invention where all of these technologies where literally instead of carrying around I think you've got half the coin. Well, and who knows in 50 years or 150 years, whatever. Wars, right? It's practically flatlined.

1:38:32 So an intelligent species like us, not just all species. it's careless about the way that the disposition of the technologies but more than likely it's can be a really serious problem someday, maybe. So what's the solution? But who ponders that? We're very, very busy with things that aren't exactly spiritually satisfying, right? I'm too busy running in circles.

1:41:27 And what do you think? I a it's a really important subject um so we have two holy grails right and the second holy grail is are we alone than the brain is, in a sense. Is there any way to recapture that? conclusions or whatever. So you have to be respectful of all these different kinds of know and know that you have something else in addition to this well that's always been what

1:44:34 okay they almost always come back going there's something more to this right and and we don't know And he was talking about it, and the CNN anchor was clearly a little rattled and along the line they get to talking about They've gone to this other place that seems more real. two no no there's no evidence there's uh even the memory is shaky like your memories are

1:47:14 What's the lessons learned? and that these things have protected us and gotten us to this stage, is try to remove the ego and shove it aside. Yeah, yeah. But the ego is also what keeps you alive. then you get this cool feeling of actually benefiting people actually helping people with Because other explanations are really tough. the literature is replete with stories thousands of stories like that and same thing with near

1:51:39 And maybe they're not so good at relaying what it was. with her i mean she might have said hey go sleep in the other room hey crazy you know yeah i don't How can that be measured How can you say I don't want to hear this Okay. profound in some way I can see doesn't mean they're all well okay But yeah, most psychic mediums I think are full of shit. Yeah, I know.

1:54:33 All right. And then there's people that are genuine yes genuinely unique yes yeah And they've been bona fide. But I think that would be uh yeah i i would And that helps. Is it a woman? Oh, you know, pound for pound, they're the best astronaut there is. You're launching less weight. Yes. I'm old-fashioned. occurred for many, many years, especially back when the study of spiritualism and the whole investigations of psychics was very, very strong from about 1835 or 40 to 1930-ish.

1:59:07 But they could be lucid. explorer and a researcher investigator a student but um so um i'm trying to gather information through other ways and uh i've had personal experiences but i'm not nothing of automatic It's outside of their world. just because someone's automatically writing, they could be receiving How extensive is this subject matter? You want to go to what is the simplest solution instead of trying to find swamp gas to describe the craft that just landed.

2:03:22 that aren't true it just means that we haven't set up experiments ourselves to verify it ourselves and actually watching, implementing it under controlled conditions, double-blind conditions. Maybe it's in a different language completely. kind of recaptured this this survival of consciousness inquiry that I was into in the 1980s. and Yeah. I have. So my personal experiences are not having ever seen an apparition.

2:07:02 Hundreds of kids having to be taken care of. The full Monty. which is a long time for noise to continue. Nothing's wrong. I didn't touch it. and bags broken open yes but nothing did nothing you had children at the time uh i had uh teenagers Yeah, jawbreakers, whatever. When nothing has happened, well, no, we're talking about a poltergeist. Did something happen tomorrow night? No. That was it? Just one loud noise and that's it? To me, it was probably like, okay, what's going to happen tomorrow night? Did something happen tomorrow night?

2:09:56 Wouldn't be a good movie. Right. You have to have, no, no, no, no. than you can imagine of different kinds of weird things happening And you can't send us an essay. Jamie's got it up here. No, it's perfect. You know the expression extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence? Yeah. So we're excited about that. And we want to post all the three winners.

2:15:32 We don't own anything. It says beyond a reasonable doubt. Like if you're talking about convicting someone for a murder, So you're guessing. An applicant. It is. No. because I did have a long discussion with someone who is an investigative detective, Because we know for a fact that murder is real. Let's talk about it in terms of vandalism. with a message on it on the back side of your house i'd go to that lady she probably fucking

2:20:32 Prove it. and you can talk be convinced are in the tens of thousands but that interesting interesting to have a sitting you could have both chocolate and vanilla ice cream I can talk to you about martial arts events. event you want it to be. Okay. Okay. I can fill this table up with examples, with literature. Okay, my own city, okay You're a famous public person, and your history is available.

2:25:19 I think it's like 60, I'm 76. So let's shift to something else that could not have been written down. and I were playing a lot of loud music in the in the room for my wife. And the medium said to me, and I'm recording this, and the medium said, thank you, What is she talking about? so what i would i don't know if she would do it but i think she probably would be

2:28:28 How did this go? What did they say? Were they fishing around? Did they accurately get to No, don't tell me things I know. But it's supposed to be a sitting for Joe. i'm saying they're they're telling you they're giving you these questions in a way like i have spectacular. But to my understanding, and I've spent a lot of time reading about these things

2:30:50 be fair in his judgment. What is fair though, in terms of psychic ability? If you could prove Wait a second. akashic records and figured out that there's some music in the room when your wife is dying. I would argue start with, and time is precious for a busy guy like yourself, would or they wouldn't be skeptics but i mean that's what they do they study things that are

2:33:13 But you seem particularly convinced that... The Lamberdoodle. 640 horsepower, four-wheel drive, eight speeds forward. He's got the same color, too. I think they're lying to you. come on i'm gonna go be it's a lot of fun larry rubo puts on a hell of a show every year for these It's a Stingray. The new Corvettes are better for that. let them be behind you they make me too nervous i understand yeah the new ones are pretty sweet

2:36:59 that if they had been produced uh in mass it would be billions and billions of dollars for these through electron microscope and Elixir, tests and this is what we know and here's the press conference right but that's never happened spectacular experience I actually haven't been there at s4, you know, I wish there was a way we could convince whoever is in charge of that

2:40:14 I have no understanding of its properties and what it can do or not. way and he wanted to get it back and and uh and this was when he was at s4 yeah yeah yeah so but His diagrams of the, uh, the UFO of the... purportedly is in corporate hands. You know, you don't have diamonds that are more valuable. So you think that's what they do with it? Is this the discussions you've had?

2:44:52 And so it's not poorly known that certain corporations are involved. it may be too precious for that I'm talking about like alien bodies. That was one of the weirdest stories about Roswell, what he saw, what Nixon showed him. Jackie Gleason's And takes Jackie Gleason a story i'm looking through yeah yeah so he saw something yeah listen i'd be friends with nixon

2:47:50 vehicle that he observed moved mirrors what bob lazar talked about from 1990 now we're now we're Maybe that's part of it. He was told nothing about the circumstances of their recovery. Holy shit. you ought to buy it that's what i'm talking about bro that's what i'm talking about it was for sale And Jack Gleeson was amazing in it. I love that guy. What would be, why do I think that?

2:52:02 And she said he took the story seriously and And after they checked out, he said, I can tell you now about I flew crates and wreckage out of, And that Truman, it was Truman, right? i don't know what creates a Big Bang. The Big Bang is on its way out? It's on its way out. Oh. that 13.5 billion light years of sight. Right. Okay. That may be a very, very small neighborhood,

2:55:42 You have no idea. In a neighborhood. You know, Big Bang started from what? that exploded in an instance and created all the matter that we see in the universe today Right. No. A certain kind of steady state of elasticity, expansion and contraction that continues to go on and on with the orderly force being whatever dark energy and dark matter is to maintain organization.

2:58:21 That the idea of inside every galaxy apparently is a supermassive black hole another universe and that there's infinite universes because there's there's just all So I don't buy that space is finite. So that means that, okay, time could be infinite. Like when you see the number 13 billion it's like okay there's actually like a good path and a bad path for at least sentient life forms and that there's

3:02:07 innovation and for material possessions and for there's a lot of weird instincts that people have And it seems there's a lot of work being pushed in that direction. whether it's autonomous soldiers So then you keep it open that God can be a creator and can respond to the power of prayer. If you are praying for somebody, and there are a lot I don't know that it's true that prayer works like that.

3:04:50 Who's written some good books. then your life is fucked and then you get it in your head that your life is in order to make sure that they're balanced in the group, that it helps also the number of people that are praying for you I think we're three hours in? very much all right goodbye everybody