Joe Rogan Experience #162 — Daniele Bolelli Transcript

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0:00 Kick it, Brian. We've got to get a new computer. many people are editing podcasts and videos and this and this one this is the old what's the power Yeah. The 50 Things They Don't Want. and you know you might if you're healthy you probably won't get through a whole paragraph the formula for this book too. And they were like, It's just when you're just simply stating the facts and documenting things,

3:28 So, I mean, it can only be so serious. I was like, ah, screw it. So you kept it. You just have a very distinct Italian flavor. Yeah, that sounds like a lot of fun. Everyone sees the grass greener. when you fake an accent. She only did it Madonna's like a legit artist who just got a little carried away. I want to do that. And you see this coffee right now, and you're like, oh, that looks delicious.

6:17 I just take them right into my fucking veins. I'm just going to have a double espresso when I need it. or if I just got a really good batch at Starbucks. kind of from it like i can feel it right yeah you feel like you're poisoned yeah and you're I like herbal tea. have a lot in common, man. Everything depends on the kind of stuff they put in their head based on religion so it's powerful stuff it's amazing that it still works yeah isn't it

9:13 He's an awesome dude, an awesome thinker. and he was in a coma for a little while I guess and then you know We both just said that. It's like the real moment of actually dealing with loss is really intense. He's a comic, man. like and they got suspended for it i think that was what he was defending but there was a woman rather to try to make people laugh. And he broke it down so well. And it was so funny the way he

12:36 And also, our favorite stand-up comic, Patrice O'Neal. So I'm going to speak as the expert on funny. Your world is... I'm trying to make fun of anything I think I can make fun of. years ago doing something against Anthony Opie because they were just so outrageous and their violent images that they put out to women was just uncalled for. It was hilarious.

14:41 You're living in the context of fire. You know what it is, John. We are outraged and fired and fired and fired. You know what? Here's my question. Well, why not? You've heard a funny rape joke? trying to say hitting her in the back of her head her body don't be punch which All right, Patrice, why aren't I hearing Al Sharpton All right, excuse me. She's not representing the nappy hole part.

18:20 She's awesome. you're just interested in the people you represent aren't all victims. We are fed up. That's it. So, Danielle. thinking okay now with modernity we're in a modern world, a more secular world, all the kind of more traditional superstitions are all It's almost like religion is some sort of an evolutionary device, like a bridge to take us from being monkeys to being enlightened beings.

20:37 until you get it right. somebody had to invent religion in order to just patch up the road till we make it there yeah But very few people actually look up and go, wow, you know, that literally is infinity. i mean if you look at the i have a chapter in there that i had a half of the fun of doing this You can pick it up. beginning of religious behavior, they

23:04 in the hunt, and then animals are dead dead so you need to make sure there are more for the next time around because, I mean, how do you know really? You're actually a professor. And I did a second MA in history. Yeah, I got really into American Indian history a few years back, stuff you know what they would do just heartless ruth like they treated them like they were not It's horrific. It got really terrifying, like serial killer stuff.

25:43 Wow. there wasn't golden calf or some crap the strict monotheistic people Jews against the polytheistic That's amazing. And this is the Old Testament? and talked him into eating a fruit it was just a piece of fruit that's all they had to do God, what the fuck, man? the stories are like really similar to all older stories from other religions you know like the one

29:12 and just wondering how they got. Everybody came from Noah. or something like that? depictions were actual events talking about an oral traditions for generations And that's the word of God for you. There's a different grasp to the words Right. And then it's like, no, there are so many filters to go through Right. that bring Christianity as one. We go by the New Testament.

33:15 it and when you're trying to, you know, study theology, how do you, I mean, how does anybody Do you worry about that? It's just showed that you are so damn fearful that you just want to ignore any evidence in order to decide, There's, Seriously. And that's just as bizarre as coming back as a baby in the 50s. I can sign up for that. for the hell of it.

36:25 love this stuff this is fun i got to talk about all the stuff i like and this is awesome and so that book ended up in the Bible. They don't mention anything. It's awesome. And he wrote a book called, we wrote a couple of them. psychedelic drugs From such a promising start. was like God would come on the earth when it would rain. And then mushrooms would grow out of that.

39:22 a bunch of things that have been central to people's religion what, 10,000 years ago? and tuna bones, but now they're thinking 40,000 years ago, they were in boats catching tuna. What is going on, man? And they have all these animals that are drawn on it 13,000 years ago when we never thought people were making stuff like this right we don't know shit, right?

41:54 the last 50 years is this thick know much well we also we look so much different than anything else here you know we are we're Yep. because it changes so much from one experience to the next, from one person to the next. about how we like freedom. super attached to this is how we do things this is the truth of combat when in martial arts you So you've got to think people should have known a long time ago, but not really.

44:46 That's amazing when you think about it but I just saw this scene that cracked me up. Centaur. The centaur is the best. I bet they had a couple of them. No, you suck More evidence? Yeah. Yeah. when you signed up the final documents, that's fucking the world. with all the shit that you know about religion? about any single one religion I'm saying that has been the...

48:55 And I'm like, really? Have you been listening to... Isn't it a problem that some people are just dumb? There's a great variation of human beings. you know you come across a wild pig or you come across a pig that's in a pen, Maybe that's why religion keeps working. Right. yourself right you know there's no need to defend yourself it's gross when you that's one of the

51:39 is because there's a lack of social repercussions. right next to you, because you don't feel uncomfortable when you're standing next to a fucking bear you're supposed to be and then you know still working teaching writing. So I'm just like... because I feel it in my body in the last few months. but at the same time save some energy for just from pulling the things out of the drawers

54:22 And I love her. The love that you get from babies, man. them you know they're constantly screaming for you to touch them you know it's amazing to watch Absolutely. hey man, you're going over the edge. on being able to just train again and do all this stuff. And it was the first time in my life that I hadn't done that. with your body, through your desire and intent

57:37 You know what I'm saying? The consciousness of the full focus and concentration of someone utilizing their So I was just like, I want to go on a mountain with Master Yoda showing me how to fly in the air. to look at it in combat sports. and to have control over itself. It benefits you to be sturdy of mind. No, I get freaked out. in my body shutting down i'm about to die kind of feeling you know everything freezes and and so i

1:01:19 And the ability to control your mind is the same as the ability to control your body. That's intelligent. Let's go eat out of here. That's intelligent. But at the same time, it's like the most instructive thing in the world Yeah, it's not good. they're around guys who are athletic they'll say you know dicky things and it's like to disarm this It's like, yeah, fine.

1:03:44 and he's going to fucking do one of those instructional videos on your head. Whoopsies. a cartoon fight. A real And that's a guy, Minotauro, he's a real martial artist. when he had the car accident and he was in the hospital for a year to me like a real victory for technique yeah and mixed martial arts in my opinion minotaur like Fucking smashed. And the referee's like, nope, the round's over. He's like, okay,

1:06:32 Crazy wars. Sacco was all relaxed and just flowing. like, really, and he was a little fat. That was a pure victory of technique over size. He kept stepping up, man. And that last one when he got knocked out, and Vanderlei caught, who beat the fuck out of him three times. He kept stepping up. He kept stepping up, man. The Melvin Manhoof fight, when he fought Melvin Manhoof.

1:08:39 sakuraba and the guy came back after that he kept fighting right i mean he's he's still And the guy stayed with it so he could get to the knee bar and win the fight. people who don't know what that means when you wrestle a lot or you get hit in the ear a lot So when he takes guys down, he'll actually, like, not gonna stop yeah he's not gonna stop but they're not gonna have him stop right they're

1:10:49 Yeah, and drinking all the time. he actually chain smoked and drank. I love that. I, man. Yeah, you think he's the... Yeah, he trained hard, but I'm pretty sure he actually chain-smoked and drank. Yeah, they get mohawks and tattoo their whole body. trying to get rid of the possible hair. him in in zan they have this thing they call the certificate of enlightenment where a master

1:12:36 you know, we'll make you abbot of this monastery and stuff. hookers, and sake. He figured it out. That's Zen. And whether or not you're just reacting to every a person is just enlightenment for a person. experience here right you know that's what we're all searching for whether it's through religion you know what maybe maybe this is a mistake here well you guys are nice i enjoy hanging out with you but

1:15:42 gangbang and you can't take that gangbang back. Yeah. you know, the octopus and eating the fish. He set up a camera and caught this octopus doing this. We don't need to tweet this. It might not be real. And they also found fossilized imprints of giant suction cups. It's essentially all soft tissue except for its beak. that, they're It's weird as it gets, man.

1:19:03 It lives in the water but yet can't it Have you seen the octopus jack the shark? You can watch that. Once they get a hold of his body, The fuck it would. TV behind you. Sharks don't even really have any natural predators. I'm just running shit down here. No. In the ice? Yeah, you can ever get a lobster in the mail? No. Bitch, come here. this is de la jiva guard because he's trying to get away looks like he's got him also he's trying

1:22:12 along the line some hundreds of millions of years ago we were probably cousins of an octopus and Yeah, I mean, I guess some form of animism is basically... but they have some common themes. And it has no morality. It's not about you have to be a good person. you know what's taught in schools when it comes to cattle worship why are there so many cattle

1:23:55 and Soma was considered to be, It's amazing that if you know about their religion and the place that Soma played in it, Actually, I think I put him in the book in there, too, because it was too much of a fun story. Because one of the theories that Wasson has about that is that he believes he was Amanita Muscari at a summer. where they do a couple of things to brew it,

1:25:42 you get the high, He was like, I don't want to drink my piss. your own in this case is even closer because it's somebody else's just because after Fear Factor starts airing, which airs on December 12th. genetically but it's variable by location season, and that some of them might not even be psychoactive. We tried the amanita. weird head space. I was like,

1:28:09 In Siberia, especially. that the Christmas theme And it has a mycorrhizal relationship with certain carnivorous trees so that it grows Like, it's like, that's the ornaments on the trees. But the Santa doesn't even matter. And those stockings, when the fuck did you ever get a pair of red and white stockings that you wore? I didn't notice that at all.

1:30:01 There's a guy, Andrew Rudigy as well. He had all these really cool Like, the idea. mushroom does and it's it's really a trip when you see that you go oh my god like this is what You got to keep entertained somehow. I always say something harsh about the big picture. But on an individual level level it's like hey man it doesn't mean i hate you you know

1:32:13 And he had this, one thing I picked on was this passage in the Quran get peace then you want to do it so first what wait he said first he tells you that uh you should No, I think all the people, all the ones who believe that there's only one right way that you know if you disagree who the hell cares it's right do your thing yeah asian martial arts or

1:34:49 I mean, you say, well, you know, this area literally was Sumer. that your brain doesn't start oozing out of your head you know it's like it's brutal and so it's I strongly recommend that, yes. i mean some tag i can disagree with some stuff in buddhism but it's it's pleasant disagreement um yeah it's um it's interesting to me that you know there's no uh there's there's no i wouldn't

1:37:40 But because we know more shit today. That's what he said. Don't you love it those He blocked me. Yeah. And she had so many threats against her life yeah they're really they will kill you isn't that amazing it's amazing that of opinion that's in the name of respecting religion. Go get them, boys. Yeah, there's like a number, like a place where you go where you can't bounce back.

1:41:26 Yeah. You will learn something about the reactions of people. I think it was my attitude over the last few months where I was like, I've been through enough shit. don't hurt yourself over there um so your book when is it going to be out i should be this week Daniele Bolelli. Really interesting conversation. Or MMA or drugs or anything. Oh, go to JoeRogan.net.

1:43:47 I should use some. that's fantastic for people who work out really hard. But we'll tweet it. And so Kreischer will be on that. we've been having Joey Diaz what is it 15 bucks? I mean, even if you don't know the guys' names, I guarantee you, Wednesday is at the Irvine Improv go to the Irvine Improv's website. Just Google You got it. i think is one of the best podcasts out there it's all of us

1:47:00 and it was everybody and the one before with Yoshi