Joe Rogan Experience #1622 — Marcus Luttrell Transcript

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0:00 the joe rogan experience train by day joe rogan podcast by night all day We're not going to be able to make it out there So almost to the day We learn fast, our people. Yeah. for the better the better day i mean you can sit there and become a victim of being a victim and Everything knows if something's badder than it was just walked in the room. It's wild.

2:48 It's quicker for them to get into the Octagon. perform better when people are watching that's what makes them special yeah they want to hear So a brawler as opposed to somebody who's been trained to fight. The difference is like some people just love to fight, and they don't even know how to do it yeah also super smart and technical like he tempers it he takes his wildness and then he tempers it and that's one of the things that makes him the greatest of all time is because he's he's also super smart and technical. He tempers it. He takes his wildness, and then he tempers it,

5:03 Have you talked to him about that? I mean, he has this insane opportunity. and some girl got just got canceled for some fucking tweet she made when she was 17 like now No, it's just people are being bullies. that just want an excuse to go after someone. They don't have anything to do during this pandemic. If you see it on there, someone's thinking's thinking it yeah and in a way that the cancel

8:00 making everybody atone for what they've been saying. There's that, yeah, but there's also the lack of forgiveness. grow exactly and we change probably what every nine years ten years maybe after we go through a They're being really shitty with it. Those people who get nasty text messages or threads about, because you start a new day every day. It's just the problem is it's still written down.

10:04 If someone remembers something you said in high school you remember call that girl You want to pretend that they are who they were when they were 15 or whatever. I get up, look in the mirror, everything's good. And you put yourself in positions to deal with different realities. a beginner again isn't that great yeah i love it walking in the gym as a white belt in that new

12:02 That's why they're called teeth. Pride. Right? My wife is nothing like me. They wouldn't want to marry someone like me. Exactly. there was a pamphlet on there had some babies and some puppies Right. I don't think you and I are ever going to understand how a woman feels. in sometimes and i don't even know Right, the amount of punishment. Yeah, if a baby came through your dick and made your dick explode and they had to sew it back up every time, there'd be four people on the planet.

16:00 That joke doesn't work. Yes. those are usually the stories you don't want out. the beginning bro i'll tell you some stuff you can't believe you said let's start off with whiskey Yeah, no. but I was in the hospital. Like normally if SEALs die or something, it's on the bottom of the ticker, and they said, hey, we're going to declassify part of this operation

19:28 Like when Patrick and I met, he came out to the house. and tell him the story. Because my name wasn't in the book. Love Jocko. He's just, what you see is what you get. We have those guys. Yeah, they're real. No. and they're like, please don't die. And that was the and we had to find the fit and then once pete and i linked up for the first time rest is kind of

22:40 um just getting to meet all of everybody oliver stone i sat down in front of him i mean This is real. And then my literary agent was this guy named Ed Victor. What do you say to me? supposed to get on my plane but we went late and missed my flight he's like just go down there and And I want you to watch it. screw it up i'll have to you know no no yeah nothing personal for real and um right when

25:32 He came back early and didn't tell me about it Oh, Jesus. And it's just everywhere I go, I was always taught to make a friend He's a director that you can tell when you watch his movies. that we blanketed the set take all the liquor in his bar and leave. yeah, I love it. The only way you get to have the kind of freedom where you're concerned with microaggressions is if you have SEALs.

28:29 Willing to die if necessary, protecting the blanket of freedom that you sleep under. protections we've had all this softness and we've had people like you out there protecting us from the worst aspects of human nature. And then because of that, people get At our best, we are brothers and lovers and family The most dangerous thing down here is an undisciplined human mind.

31:00 you'd want to pass that down well that next gen will never understand it they just don't our hard times to understand what somebody at a certain age is going through age is rank can't It just does. we have a saying in the family, else keeps moving you got to figure it out yeah it's like a game of life imagine when you come The only way. It is. your clothes are wet, everything's wet. It's the rainiest place in North America, maybe on Earth.

34:12 You don't appreciate it. they need lovers they need friends we need the whole thing to be able to figure it out there's So the grandmother loves the storms, the rain. you i want to talk to people in seattle i'm like you got to get out man it rains every day it's too It was always cold. look back at what we had to go, cause we're hybrids, case they lose it so all that stuff is a tool as they progress through their age i'll hold on to

37:17 aren't made the mistakes have to be made like all the dumb shit has to be done it's just no way you try to perpetuate it or like where we're from if you don't know something be like man I don't know but they don't mean at that time you didn't get it right it's Tomorrow, we don't have any idea if it's going to show up. Whatever you run into, man, run into it and give it all you got.

39:22 and you're like, man, I understand that. Because there was just two of us down here. by themselves, and they're a part of this conversation. There's a lot of shit that's cool. and your consciousness can be taken away my father i'll always tell me he's not he wasn't my friend he's like i'm not your friend i'm your But you take one of them away, then you kind of notice that it's gone.

41:58 but you can walk in them every now and again if you need it. He was a chemical engineer, nothing bad, as I was growing up, So I say that to my kids now. It says it. A lot like him. Definitely like your great-grandfather and you're probably the exact it's not it can't no it's not spare the right here. It can't be comfortable. No, it's not. It can't be.

43:54 That's why you got a butt with padding on it. predators that eat meat just like humans humans and animals kind of coexist together you can see It's just we kind of want to put them into groups. going to become them, why would you need them to exist? this is this is how we progress we don't learn all our lessons from our own life experiences we I mean, if you like something, you just went in, you were good at it,

46:12 maybe they don't have the best genetic tools i'm sharpening you making a blade blade even when it's getting sharpened has no idea what's going on They're designed to polish you, sharpen you, or dull you out. If you weren't willing to carry it, I will. to you and you're trying to carry them and if they don't want to keep going, you've got to recognize that they're taking away from your resources.

48:07 And when you come back into their life, you're back in that spot. a husband a family member and you can't ask everybody to walk your path no it's yours yeah because you're going to have to run into them and we need rock stars, i mean just famously right yeah and we were two different worlds i mean we just are and um that's It's a trap that your mind sets up.

50:32 I don't give a fuck if I can hang out with you, if you're cool, if we can talk. Maybe they're morons because relatives and terrible neighbors and terrible bullshit and they just they just didn't have whether you can progress forward, their style like you have to get past that to as we go through this that's the best part is taking off that black belt and putting the white

53:10 And it's actually the best teaching tool for, It's a problem with brown belts. that's what I thought too and I was like no when you should have zagged and they get to point b and then there's point c and d is tap like you there's a chance that even those of us who have been around thank thanking your lucky stars because you got a real good lesson you got a lesson that if you

55:29 I just feel like such a piece of shit. you tell me that guy didn't have dark moments in the gym. It's a fight. You know, that's a great way to compliment him, too. Can you imagine back in the day, growing up in that? Hearns, Sugar Ray Leonard. Oh, really? Oh, that's hilarious because they thought you were too tough. had the white geek pants on. Japan Valley

58:30 You had the Faces of Death videos. We were kids. I think it's still open. In Oregon. I don't even like hanging out with Cameron because no matter everything I've been through, He's got a smile on his face. That's the thing. goggins will send me text messages out of nowhere i'm just letting you know stay hard I think this shit is bigger than me. It makes him almost like an antenna.

1:01:16 Obviously, with us, too, it's an evolutionary thing, meaning day by day. toenails are like, That's, all greased up Is he here yet? Right, I agree with that. I was like, oh, just laying around. And then there's the interim in between. When they try to talk to us, they still... and throw them into one fraternity. With no one around. Run! went to Iraq.

1:03:45 After that movie, the events that happened in the movie Lone Survivor, you went back. which is Jocko, Chris Kyle, and those guys. The day before we were redeploying, I had two point men. buddies comes walking i was like what's wrong with you he's like man i think somebody hit me maybe it might have been a little bit more, And a lot of the training,

1:05:57 With us, it was 19. Yes. But then in my head, I was apprehensive because I just had my ass kicked real bad. I mean, look at the fraternity I'm in. went back out there, matter of fact, the first gunfight I ever got in, I remember taking a knee And they're like, you got into it. I was freaking out when the gunfire started, But there are, in any situation you go into, there's going to be that kind of hesitation.

1:08:38 can't just be calm about it well you you that uncomfortable feeling right whether it's a fight or then they start training us then you get your pistol so you're completely exhausted and when it's actually a bad thing because that's when we start to come up. all of it whether even even like when you have a child like the birth of a child it's uncomfortable

1:10:39 Getting dressed in the morning, doing everything, I mean, it's the same thing. When we go down in the gym and I'll work out chest as hard as I can, I get battle hardened. Period. I've had the bones knocked out of that, I'm going to be stronger. Because I don't get battle weakened. I get battle hardened. and you're going to lay up for a week. pain and put them through the same thing that's

1:12:34 Isn't that crazy? I mean, we can't even imagine. And so we're kind of going through right now. doing it because they don't have anything greater. because you lack the other experiences. like lower it, raise it. My seventh grade teacher, I was cutting up in class. We love having it here. But the schwagger is the same. Billy Allsbrook. You pull him up.

1:15:20 I'm like, good morning, Texan. it's gonna say Texan, right? talking back talking back to their women women are a big thing around here our texas women man With the Comanches On the podcast Holy shit We were talking about that. The Hunter Thompson picture. Do you know who the other guy is out there? Yeah, that photo. It's all fucked up. Like, if you run into the highway boys,

1:17:34 I mean, then they'll find some stuff, right? speech to his troops right before he died. He was sitting in camp that was gifted to me look i'm telling you man as as much as people like to give that guy shit... Do whatever the hell he wants, man. I always told him, I was like, hey, man, you're the city version of me. He played Axe. That guy's in everything good.

1:19:43 He's like, hey, what are you doing? So we started driving. By the time we got to the set, we were best buddies. It was difficult. And as we're driving in, Good Old school. Keep talking. It's just an honor to be here. The way they hit those rocks. Because the difference when I tell between the movie and real life is like, because we're on top of the mountain just sitting out there all day and stuff i was like man

1:23:37 They'll all say no, I was like, hey, man, if I see this on TNT during Veterans Day, And they just cheered me up. They whipped me so bad, I got whipped back to my mother. I started that fight with all my friends and all my gear. and being afraid is afraid to leave you a blobber and mess you just be laying there i don't i didn't And then I started to think about it.

1:26:24 And SEAL seals are the worst I need to hear it I tell myself that every day, stay humble. That's why it's so difficult for me. By happenstance, I guess. Did you make a conscious decision to not watch the movie? I think Mellie knew the story, but she didn't ever, she never had any kind of idea what was going on. And then my mother was like, That's like,

1:28:34 I can, did what he was supposed to do, if they were going to make a movie about you, Like, I'm going to walk like Denzel in Travolta. Not from. And then when you're kind of sitting there and they think about it, and I'm like, I'll tell you what, I'll just pick the other, but it was the best, like, vehicle for carrying your story He nailed it. That gunplay when they're out there on the street, man,

1:31:16 and do all this stuff that's all well and good too but all you need to do is tuck them arms As big as I am, as much as I weigh, I don't It's kind of funny with us. I came here to whip you until you get in line. got nuclear weapons what the hell is that all about we got enough weapons for everybody that's Right? I shake your hand. Where you grow up?

1:34:33 have had a limited limited number of those and those people are the scariest because those people all right. But the real vulnerability in our society and our culture is men who don't know their And this is one of the genuine problems that we have with human beings in our society. and we run into them. So not only do I not have to go through it, you did.

1:37:00 absolutely you get it you get a community or a civilization that literally learns how to run so Never let anybody's perception of you become your reality It's like a motivational thing to you. and then all of a sudden you're getting all this focus and attention? good job i'm like you're like you know right come on like we're a family yes and my i none of my

1:39:26 You don't even want to mess with them. Really? they're like, You have to learn how to work It's so we'll always remember to love each other. I always – I learned this watching the leadership. I'm going to do this. That's his style. I'm like, yeah, have I accomplished all this? And then I'm going to learn how to operate with it, It is, right? With that being, when you know that, like you know the outlines, right?

1:42:42 Hey, I had to go through it. So will you. It's okay. Just do it. or where they were trying to, like, if you have to go to the bathroom for an hour and a half? And it's great to see. that's an opinion anything but it is how it went down and then so he started writing and he man he and we would still wreck him. There's so much stuff that we kept from the story that if I told you, you wouldn't believe me.

1:45:52 But the craziest part about that whole operation was getting me out of there. We were in this, like, a volcano, And they kind of, like, And he was sitting there listening to an AM FM radio. German, Japanese. Why did they save you? Can you believe that? There's an insanity that goes with thirst. sliding i rotated upside down and i remember looking over and my rifle was sliding beside me.

1:48:51 looked up and there was that water fountain there and i remember sliding down this is the craziest I'll never forget it. He was just pointing at me. I was sitting on my butt. I had my rifle in my hand i was breathing i couldn't breathe i'd bitten my tongue in half My safety was off, my tension was out of my trigger, I don't know why I didn't kill him.

1:51:08 And then he kind of put his hands up Two English words he knew I was like shampoo hydrate you know how good that sounded i was I don't care. And this guy was like, man, I got you, man. I couldn't walk. So how much of what was in the script, I know you didn't see the movie, It looked horrific. Isn't that crazy? I'm still here. Man, it was a hell of a week.

1:54:36 because y'all came and got me I couldn't believe it y'all made it out here we We were out in the middle of nowhere. Those Green Berets and those Rangers and PJs that were on that plane, I mean, there was a gunfight going on from the top and the bottom. What is it like to talk about this now? Yeah, yeah. Right And they I didn't like that know with all my buddies like I mean what happened 19 dudes died and I didn't know what to do, especially coming back to the team, you know, with all my buddies.

1:57:59 look at it like, hey, you can get an ass whooping and come back. And then to honor all my buddies, I'm going to be a podcaster. gold squadron and they went in on a on a 47 to to help out and they got blown out of sky and And then he was like, 12, 15, that we grew up with the young boys they're just dead they died and you learn how to deal with that

2:00:52 you are or why you were there but recognizing that in their eyes this enemy was on their mountain We take things a certain way. 100%. Protected me But his kids do I know it And you have Muslim friends? They're so great. I was in a river, lying. When that dude found me, huh. You had them. how great is that? You know, those get over it so quick. the plane and they were carrying me off there and there was there was a girl sitting there i'll

2:05:23 They were hauling my ass everywhere around that mountain. We laid up in the middle of the night. Isn't that crazy? I got another one over here. of the reality is that he made it willing to put out like that i mean, that's how friendships are formed. Yeah. like there was a reason why he found you sure of course yeah always Like you're meant to tell this story? Well, I mean, we're all meant to go through certain things.

2:08:21 And then you get down there where you're in the middle of a hole The river was, like, right there, and I wanted to crawl to it, And I'd crawled in there to hide. everything around me I'm humbled I was like just get me out of here and I'll make sure that I So that's what it's like, right? we want to kill each other, tear each other apart, And we fight like that because you see your buddy fall and you're like, ah, come on.

2:11:09 thing for me i've never had a dream like that before and i bring weird shit in man you name the thunder and the lightning yeah but it's a it's almost like a taste that you've you push But, oh, yeah. It doesn't make any sense, man, because there was no reason for me to have this dream. was like hey bro i was like you got something in your teeth? I'll never forget that.

2:13:19 That's not funny. He's like, bro, I've been shot again. That was the hardest part, man, was that. sometimes when someone has had an experience that's so I woke up confused. i was drinking my blood my like urinating I mean in nothing like you couldn't man I hadn't thought about that like dirt in my mouth knowing that I was going to talk to you today.

2:16:21 Yes. I don't know, because it seems magic. I believe in it, but I believe a lot of people pretend. Well, then there you go, man. if we were all look at the like this perfect picture what is perfection it's imperfection and as we go through this everybody has their stage in life and and at no point in time is it You don't want a perfect person different and then the best way to experience that is to encounter these different people and

2:19:48 I mean, who's your odd couple friend? So when they see us palling around with something completely opposite of us, when you're around different people. about relationships that's so important. like the sin or the virtue, stand by for the ride. that hate me. Yes. I'll go deep. Yeah, it is a true statement. Boring as fuck. Yeah. Yeah. They were born in chaos.

2:23:16 that's natural too. it's natural. No, I don't like... I'm not what you say I am. and you kind of sit back, where there's so many wars going on currently You want to get into that? Go ahead.