Joe Rogan Experience #1625 — Demi Lovato Transcript

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0:00 The Joe Rogan Experience. Oh, look at you, conscious that's good uh yeah we start we move to um having these metal cups They could, but they don't. You have this one bottle yes take it everywhere and defeats the whole purpose of being there Who are those boring people? Yeah. The most normal. God. When did you, what was the first showbiz thing you did? How old were you?

4:11 like she renames people she decides she doesn't like your name she gives you a whole nother name Cute. What? She decided that Barney was too complicated because she was one years old. Wow. um maybe less and then the rest of the people on set were the the crew and that's like 150 adults and I was in heaven because I wow yeah so I liked it for for a period of time and then I missed kids my age and I went back to

7:27 and I realized what was happening and I remember like running to my mom being like did you hear before the movie had even come out they were super fans they were super fans and so they had done You know, when like you're singing So like I performed, I did like this military base tour when I was like 12. And it was an amusement park. month I also like they I opened for 30,000 people so it was just like my life changed overnight

10:45 you grow up where basically most people who run into you know who you are before you knew who I went to public school except for the one year that I homeschooled on Barney and Friends. The bullying was that bad? Because the thing was, is like the girls that I wrote that about were the popular girls. Bullying is more common than not, right? fans my age because I had just been bullied three years before by people my age. When I was meeting fans, I was excited to meet them. But at the same time, I knew what they were capable of. So I had

15:42 Oh, yeah. I discussed it with my mom. And all of a sudden my career wasn't about my talent anymore. And her name was on it. Are you fucking kidding me? talking about what had happened when I was 12 or when we were 12 what did she want to talk about You become a famous person. you were the first mean girl to call me fat like of course i remember you it was just wild but

20:15 I was looking at negative food behaviors and that's all I knew and so when someone called me fat, I knew exactly what to do. Now, like I said, I don't blame Like, a common thing that I hear all the time Yeah. That guy's great. you're a liberal is not going to help you get a role what it was. But it's just like, they don't I ran into him randomly with my

23:11 love that's literally who that guy is i mean he really lives that way yeah no i believe it and i but i remember him from it and then all of a sudden he's on guardians of the galaxy and he's it's like I think there's this urgency with celebrities who have a platform to use it for But you could also look at it this way, that what you're doing is doing your best work,

25:36 it they're having the time of their life so it is a net positive it's just the problem is only one But, like, I've been, I'm so hypervigilant miley and just uh quite a few other ones uh rob low and it's a weird road it's a weird road when And now I do. like when, And like, raise a child star there's no manual the only way to do it i think you would have to raise like

28:59 you know to mitigate some of the effects of fame and and obviously just by the way you're talking Yeah, I was like, I don't need to be here regardless of what happens. She's super intuitive, psychic, if you will. Is she an accountant? had started using hard drugs hard hard drugs and nobody else knew that people around you knew it right i think that my no security like people around me knew that i was

31:57 you just like reality's too much sobriety's too much whatever this is is too much i just want to party it was more complicated than Yeah. And so I asked them for help. on she alluded to things that day um this is the same healer that like also told me a year ago Well, I didn't hear of it. Okay, then fine. So the people that are successful, like, hey, Bob, how did you become this big big rock star and he'll say listen man i

36:31 there's definitely luck. There's definitely moments where the stars align. There's good that wanted the same things that you have, manifesting things it is a part of an enormous thing one thousand percent that's exactly what and honing in that ability and trying to I'm going to continue to work hard to get it but i'm also going to manifest it and i think there's also

39:33 You can't say, oh, well, they have 20 points of that. get getting clout or whatever it is like I don't trust those healers but if you say some shit to did i tell you that? Where like you said, it was just how you can like tell when you're fighting someone and I knew they had COVID. You got a lot of energy. even though it's hard to read. even when you're manifesting things,

42:46 I think that, like, psychic energy energy the physical energy of it all like i think it all blends together i don't think that Because like sometimes I'll get a text message from somebody I haven't talked to in a long fucking time, And you can harness it. for what they really are see things clear and that that's a real battle with people it's cutting out

45:15 And to go through all these things. That means a lot to me. And you know, this is just some weird place that i got in but So I just, I got really nervous about training so close with anybody that I took a break from it. But yeah, you're right. That is meditation. yeah like regular life seems easy some some pitches on top of you trying to collar choke

48:33 It's. That means you probably tapped a bunch of people out. It's just key. have like a no like cameras policy it's kind of like the soho house of oh yeah and a lot of athletes Or just my trainer. Right. Yeah. And they just don't. You've worn boots like broken foot boots? Is that you mean broken foot boots yeah really what happened to your foot so i broke my ankle

51:49 There was a time that summer that I had my first show in and Camp Rock released. that I would need more time to recover. there was an adjustment So I do three shows a week when I'm on tour, pretty much. So hot tea, sleep, water. And then I don't know what works now, singers that push it too hard and where they get polyps and all kinds of weird things you have to

54:50 Yeah. Hmm. skinny yeah yeah and um yeah and so that was it and then I And then I got sober for a few months and went out. I had no idea how difficult those things were to kick until two things one when I have withdrawn from heroin, I'm not worried necessarily about, um, what's going to happen to is that it changes your baseline that when you get on these things and it does alleviate some

58:23 So it's not even back to normal. yeah just sleeping it was what they put on what did they put you on to help you get off of benzos it was probably unbearable at times because it's probably so insane the most insane thing to me that I could never wrap my head around was like, I was a minor being followed by paparazzi, which are grown men. for them to take photos of you.

1:01:26 And the fact that there wasn't any, a special effects person to give you a crazy nose and like a weird forehead and i thought about it Yes, and you're like, how? about a month later i got sober and stayed sober for six years um so you had some rocky And they did when I ended up picking up again. So, you know, that's the boundary they set for me and i can i can respect that so you had a good stretch of multiple years what set it back off again well it was like i was saying the bulimia bulimia for

1:04:31 with her and then but when this happened i was like i'm gonna call that person and Like that's a weird dealer. i see what you're saying but you know i think you're looking at it in a different way than i Right. But the thing, what I'm saying is this person's a criminal. to rock stars you don't have to say their name yeah no i know i'm just trying to think of which

1:07:58 yeah no of course absolutely i know i for sure know that it's a different animal but um but i There's a lot of, oh, I have ADHD. want to cast judgment on other people that are doing it in a different way exactly yeah that's We're really interesting in our desire to escape our state of mind and to try to almost always do it with a substance rather than an activity.

1:09:48 There's a lot of things that you can do where you're, to the point where if you could take in a pill form what it feels like to complete like a brutal they don't have like weight loss shit on the walls. the crippling shame and anxiety of the diet culture distracted and it becomes more stressful for them to step foot in those environments than it is to maybe go on a walk.

1:12:51 Right. Yeah. it's good for you to just be separate you know the gyms are great because everything's all there I know that MMA fighters are used to cutting weight. He's a real freak of nature. He's a savage. so he's in the sauna I wasn't even thinking about that. Wow. So he'll take 75-pound dumbbells and dive in the water And I have friends that have gone there and they're like, dude, it's fucking ridiculous.

1:16:44 And that's a hard no for me. And I texted her back. It's like. Yeah, it's amazing what a hard workout you can get on sand dunes. I was nuts with my workouts there were times where I would live at the gym so I would actually like I would work out in the morning and then I would take a meeting Were you training for something? tour yeah really yeah um why'd you want to get in such crazy shape um i think it has to do with my eating disorder um i just was like i i have the ability to compartmentalize things so

1:19:45 you training for and i'm like i don't know like well one of the things that does happen to people There ain't no life in that. chicken breast and broccoli. we're hungry. Were you taking supplements as well and doing the whole deal? maybe this was like four years ago so maybe yeah they brought dr oz in front of congress they're or cheeseburgers like for years I'm talking like like years I did not eat them and um

1:23:46 It was just this weird compulsion that I had. is developing a healthy relationship with food. very little. And so that's what my role model of food was, you know, so it was like so small yeah and that's why I don't blame the God, She's super petite. like stayed and hung out with my cousin and my friend and it was just cute because like i wasn't me so i'm gonna say you don't he's a famous addiction specialist okay no i don't but i feel

1:27:51 Everybody does. like, not have me be raised without my father. And it's like that dichotomy of wanting your dad kind of identify the problem and And that's not the case. might change next week I think in this moment I want to adopt for sure well that's a great way Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, I think that's a loaded question because like I saw Cruel Intentions when I was a kid and saw Sarah Michelle Gellar and what's her face kiss?

1:33:11 whether you're gay or whether you're gender fluid or sexually fluid, whatever you are. you know going like likes jojo siwa but now she's talking about maybe being gay and like like it's it's weird that the Like, are you okay with that? I am no longer a 15-year-old on Disney Channel. And do you ever have people, whether it's marketing people or PR people, that try to

1:35:21 and such strong boundaries that if I feel like a But PRs don't really like that. it's this delicate um balance of like politeness and assertion i think i mean it's it's really Like you can have like a real quick response to anything, whether it's current events or by virtue of a bunch of weird gotcha questions and they're trying to make some article about

1:37:34 Yeah. like that's who you are that's being a person that's that's better but and this is i do this Let them obsess over quotes and sound bites. or whether it comes from anything, they don't want you to deviate from the path. And they want you path of moderation with the help of some green plants you know what I'm saying I do and so Yeah, we'll just like call it what it is.

1:42:14 and knowing that even if I'm having a bad night It makes me be able to appreciate the present moment longer because they say it slows down time. thought that my voice comes from me and not like really appreciating myself as an instrument and And it just was, like, oh, it was so overwhelming. People get bored Everybody loses their train of thought. whatever maybe even flow rolling they go into it. They go into a different dimension in the movie,

1:46:23 weed helps me get into that state when it comes to rehearsals do you the video takes place in this apartment where he's singing and i just remember watching it going like feeling it doesn't hurt your body but i do know people that have gotten addicted to weed you know yeah Yeah. almost died. The blind spots are like, I don't I don't of goes like greenish bluish it's not black but it's you can't see and it's just like a blind spot

1:51:27 how do you live how do you live exactly my brows are extremely important to me so that was a huge Wow. no, When his dad was in his nineties, let's just yeah let's just get real here totally and meanwhile you know mel gibson was telling me and this is a, Dr. Neal Reardon's like a legitimate doctor. I kind of feel like I want to cry right now because I didn't think there was anything that could help.

1:54:45 They really can. Obviously, I'm not a scientist, so I'm butchering how they do it. Got it. c-sections and they take their umbilical cord and they make stem cells out of it obviously Disappeared. The closest thing I've done with stem cells is there's a woman named Barbara Sturm, and Women do some wild shit for their skin. Your whole face has been bitten

1:56:45 lost you this could be it for your life so how do you how do you ease into weed from there so it's You let it sit. in 2019 on the hard stuff um i went back to the treatment center i'd gone to right after uh treatment and I just said to them I was like I I think I need to blocks all the opiate receptors in your brain. So if you I mean, mean honestly even if i were to get like in a bad injury and go to the

2:00:18 every time i've thrown up i'd felt terrible i never would have imagined that there's a i guess All right. if I pick up, you know, that term, I had been told so many times by people in recovery or treatment team, whatever, And so I tried it and it wasn't so bad. and i don't buy it with anything also i hate even calling weed a drug because it's a sacred plant

2:04:03 By Harry N. Slinger. And William Randolph Hearst. Yeah. you know it was made illegal in the 1930s oh yeah by um harry ann slinger and william randolph And so I want to respect their truth. and Elton, And it's like, I can respect that for him because it didn't work. Did the director tell him specifically what you're not sober with? Like after the overdose.

2:06:16 Is this, like, the best you've ever been? I thought my life was success, was all of this that I worked so hard for my whole childhood. He's like, why are you here? was a concept I never knew before. you should and shouldn't do in terms of how other people feel like you should behave. Whoever you really are never gets to grow There's a million other pop stars that will say the same shit that you're going to say

2:09:08 Don't say anything crazy. I need some help. can keep her moving you know what I'm saying like they don't like because to control of the amount of calories I was eating in a day so like when I say that like my calories I have a now I feel like the boss because I'm making the decisions you know now I feel like the boss because I'm making the decisions. Now I'm like, no, I want to do this TV show

2:11:45 yourself with strong people yeah strong people that are doing similar things like they're also they come to you for money but that they work for you so they rely on you financially and these But what I'm getting at is that you need other tanks to go to war. And that's been really helpful to have close friends um, And that's why if you're navigating from

2:15:10 There's been times where I've thought, yeah, I should be 100% sober. And I was like, I just don't believe that. that's a real problem with artists because you're you're trying to put something out and the way to get something really good when it comes to creating things. lonely and I think that's a common um you know belief that a lot of child stars have is that

2:18:28 And they're such a great workout. That's what's most important Right. Well, I mean, look, it's a part of it for sure is that you want you know you have a vision of being Wait, you sound like a good time. I was like, why do famous people always hang out together? And I, i think that's what kind of keeps me from hanging out with other celebrities our schedule's never

2:22:06 Normal people. Right. It's weird. It always bothered me, because I've only stepped on an actual red carpet maybe twice, and then Oh, is that what they call it? Right. Yeah. In 5 minutes They do all kinds of weird shit with people. You really are, regardless of what anybody says. shit i went through you know this is me when i was little like what is that like like reading your diary to the world and but like I like to call myself an open book with

2:25:28 Well, technically I answered it. And it was stressful. shutting the door on telling my story It's like, look. hey y'all all wrote like really false stories when this happened so first off i'm going to clear the sober one day, fine. I love hearing how healthy you're approaching this and the way you're thinking about all this. I really enjoyed talking to you.

2:28:59 Bye, everybody.