Joe Rogan Experience #1635 — Katie Spotz Transcript

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0:00 the Joe Rogan experience row did. Like after the row, I felt like my body could probably continue going. Um, but it was just, I might as well try to run. marathon. And every event was like started from really that place, that one mile. Like when you see it, when like the parents are more invested and you're like, settle down. I never imagined doing. Do you still think back to that first mile, like completing that first

4:57 I mean, yeah, I think there's like, it's just one achievement opens the door to other ones. It changes who you are. I didn't know how to pace myself. Maybe it's blood. with this first mile and then you eventually work your way up to all these challenges. Yes, yes. And then eventually you decide, Mount Everest I know people sail around the world I know about all these things and then he mentioned

9:05 was intriguing to me because it's like, okay, how can you dig deep internally when you don't have But it was a matter of like researching everything. you're doing in the gym. For ocean rowing and for like the more adventure type athletic pursuits, Lake Erie. my back were the main source of like power but um i think the best like you mean a sliding seat like a

13:34 went yeah i would say so yeah i i anticipated it would be 70 or 100 days oh my god that's a big gap. I had 30 days of extra food. It was pretty amazing. so that was definitely like a pleasant surprise to see that must have been really crazy yeah have That is so wild. Like how amazing? Like I think it was right up to my boat. I had. Yeah. Yeah. off but sometimes they would just keep following my boat so every time I I named them Ed, Edd,

17:19 Those are delicious. because i was pushing it so i had like freeze-dried meals um which aren't like the MREs that have liquid in it. And I had a handheld one, which fortunately I didn't have to use that, but that would take two hours to pump the water that I'd need. So your ballast water was fresh water just in case of a chance that you needed water,

19:51 in these like i think it was like a platypus type water containers so yeah so who planned this stuff Really? Now, when you're getting this from this guy who's done it, did he look at you and go, You'd have to be a fan of his maybe. What's one thing that you do want to do before I get it Okay. You're like looking into my brain. What? Yeah. That's very difficult for a lot of people to pull off. That's true. It's hard it's also taking 70 days off work. Yeah.

23:34 How old were you when you did it? Cleveland companies that were able to partner up. They build wells for the pygmies. It's right there on the table. You know John Daly, the golfer? And they did an interview with him, I'm like, wow. His teeth can't be good. Golf is such a strange game. But water. create service learning opportunities for schools here. And I think that, you know,

28:08 people that have gotten clean water through adventures and um yeah i mean it really doesn't And to see the major headlines, to see the rules like, countries it's already the case and to me that was kind of like that one sentence that I couldn't Is that what you mean? cure for all childhood cancers. And then imagine in 50 years from now, these kids are still dying

32:11 and I was learning about how some places they don't even give their kids a name They're real people today. Look at this. If you're not naming your kids, That's the pretty part. Like, it's hard to. There's just not a financial incentive for people to do it. a long walk, but when you're coming back, you're carrying the jerry cans, which could be 40 pounds.

37:08 And then I have been able to visit some of them in Kenya and South Africa after the fact, after the projects were built. that word okay so there's 30 000 rotary clubs all around the world what's a rotary club uh my dad Oh, well, let me tell you. fundraisers and um and then so so there's partnering with schools partnering with rotary clubs and then and you have a series of sponsors for all your adventures.

40:25 I do, but of course, like, no one ever does anything by themselves. signal. Yeah. Um, yeah. I mean, I'm open. I don't know. Are you going to do something else crazy? I definitely feel called to do like, so with ocean rowing, most people go from like Half of the people do. I have a lot of other things that I've done and am doing that I'm, I'm interested in.

43:55 and 70s, I think I would enjoy it more now just because of that ability to recover and like But I don't know. Yes, it is. But let me... You're kind of crazy. these like waves and winds and it's just known for that kind of thing. So I had an option of landing there, but I would need a boat to tow me in because I could crash into cliffs or crash into something because it's so impossible to be precise when you have those big waves.

46:56 You might have to, right? Yeah, see, I think you'd do it again. Maybe not. I don't know. You know, that complains about that kind of shit. And you're, like, I'm just an iron thing. Someone should start attacking them on Twitter I forget what it is. As good? Oh, really? he's done the Moab 240 and the Bigfoot, I mean, I have seen, like, 200 is the new 100. Yeah, these people are out of it. Wow. I mean, I have seen like 200 is the new 100.

50:42 Oh, really? I think another guy holds, Goggins held the world record, and then Truett broke Goggins' 54-year-old Mark Jordan. He's heavier. No, this is 2017. That guy's jacked, though. That is so much. It's easier for slimmer people to do chin-ups. I don't know. By yourself, alone in the ocean, for fucking days and days and days and days and days and days and days

53:15 Eddie Izzard impressed me the most because what he did, he had zero training, running the next day eddie's out there huffing it. I mean, but not in shape. Like that, 32 and 32 days? When you're that badass, I don't give a fuck what you call yourself or who you are. I'm surprised that And then. And if you watch the documentary, you just see it's just sheer will.

56:29 Just did it, like, last weekend, the 100-mile race. thing like one of the races i did my friends and i we stayed until the last person came and communicate with the same people and you don't get out you don't travel and you don't meet Dunning-Kruger effect. It's a commonly used phrase It's not inside of the Because I thought that it had to do with someone being really good at something else.

1:00:31 yoga. They have zero experience in yoga. And I've had arguments with people about that, yoga class and she was in her 50s and she was fucking shredded she had like this crazy six Yeah. And it's hard. well that's because it's harder when it's hot exactly because it makes your body produce heat It's massive for inflammation benefits. Yeah. of sweating by running and biking and swimming so that that's the only thing that i've heard like

1:04:50 the only problem is having to pee And I go, why are you doing this? And she goes, well, water is really good for you. you're forcing water into your body i mean right people have died from that i've had hyponatremia Yeah. Yeah, so like, yeah, I know that like the stuff I do, no doctor would be like, yeah, that sounds great. I was like, the fuck out of here.

1:07:58 Like, well, it'll be more vulnerable now. And I'm not in pain. Oh, boy. Like, you don't get better by avoiding it. Do you have the hand things too? I'm used to having to have kills. and repetitive hip muscles hips and then i think that's your hip muscles? Hips. And that's another area that matters a lot with like running because, um, like I think Yeah.

1:11:31 That's what my friend and I are doing every weekend now. It's really, okay, so I have the three-wheeled rollerblades. Oh, like a blade. So I think rollerblading is really fun and people should try it if they haven't. My middle daughter does gymnastics. She loves it. I think a lot of things that look hard when you finish them is a feeling of elation does

1:13:52 Do you have anything that you're like, you know, I think it's fascinating. three minutes and like wow it's from muscular so it's like it would be It just, you have more mobility everything moves better And they have a roller that does the same thing. The free solo climber. I'm like, no, it's not. Like you say, I would like to be able to do splits. Oof.

1:17:49 isn't a day you just do it but if you wanted that that's this thing that you keep saying It allows you to have more range of motion. Exactly. And then he realized it was just tightness of his muscle. you know what one sucks for me the most is when um sitting down grabbing my toes and flattening Yeah, you loosen up. That one's really good. And it's hard to stretch those things.

1:20:40 You know what's the best one? Yeah. And you can do back extensions on that thing too. Just to try to balance it out. Let me guess. No, those are great, though. It's called monkey feet. You know what monkey feet are? or your shoe and then It's phenomenal. It's really good. And it's amazing how fucking weak your legs are No. wow yeah so you hook that thing onto your sneaker, and then the barbell, or the dumbbell rather, at the bottom hooks onto this thing.

1:24:18 But it's hard to get ankle weights in 25, 35 pounds, right? Because I'm doing this thing. phenomenal strength what he calls dense strength in your legs like look at look what he could do There he is doing it. What is it? You can go from your toes all the way down to your knees like that. Yeah, but it's a slow build. That's a very, very difficult movement to control, and that guy's doing it super slow.

1:28:09 Take it from a woman who rode across the entire fucking ocean. Yeah. is but sometimes the farther I go the easier it gets which is kind of cool to experience that makes sense i guess up to a point yes but those like moab 240s Gels? So like, I, I think it's really helpful to do like liquid based because you're not, you adjust to the liquid only, I think it ends up being a lot better. Less can go wrong.

1:32:29 it's like you went to the buffet and just had a little bit of everything. Yeah, I can only imagine. if you have chickens it's the best move because that's like your pets they give you food yeah That's not good. Detort your animals. why like large animals are the way to go yeah because it's one death and you can eat it all year. Yeah. Maine has some whopper moose, too.

1:36:16 Yeah, we're fucking weird. That shit's terrible for you. they've shown increasing rat liver cancer and all these problems these rats are having. It's just nerves. ground you pick it up and you wash it off you don't throw it away like you this is you grew I get it. it yeah you appreciate it yes you appreciate it yeah we're like some spoiled trust fund kids

1:39:56 people now it's like this is not the the better option to be eating so much that you're fat like we're so weird that our poor people are fat like how certain fast foods have things that make it so that you're more addicted to oh yeah for experiencing bad food and shitty people and poverty and being in this like weird crime-ridden and that's a lot of people's lives. Well, if you have more people

1:43:07 there's zero political emphasis on this. If we can go to Afghanistan that they're what they're imitating because people imitate their atmosphere Everybody's friendly. I agree. I do know what you're saying, that through, yeah, through pressure you create diamonds. people, but I don't necessarily think the kind of challenges that you get if you're born in the

1:46:41 It's almost like you hear that more than you hear like, oh, everything was perfect. You don't know? That's most of the group that I hang around with. Some people, Yeah. and I want them to have good friends They're interested in challenges. before civilization came along. You're not going to be good at compromise. And like, yeah, it's almost like our society is so like all about success and like just kind of.

1:50:53 And she says no. yeah yeah but like that is a beautiful thing and like i think yeah on any journey to be successful it's like you have to really get comfortable being unsuccessful or And then before that, I was a martial artist. Yeah. How come I can't pick something up with my left arm? And, yeah, there's always that. You're trying to kick a person who knows that you're trying to kick them.

1:53:30 I haven't kickbox sparred It's like you get an ankle rolls and then your knee pops and like where have you ever tried any martial arts no you're really strong i'm sure you'd be Oh, okay. Goggins sent me some pictures of his fucking knees He's just going to keep going. Like? Just tells you to stay hard. He's not interested in having fun. He's not interested in that.

1:57:01 He's missing out on some fun. No, no, no. And you could do them in different ways. But one of the more recent ones that I put up. on ventilators. That should have caused a lot of demons in your brain. Mindset's the only thing Look those demons in the eye. That dude is thinking that while he's saying it, while he's doing it. They just start running or they hit the gym,

2:00:20 I see it. I know, but you're not that I've experienced about motivation. Like, most people like think you have to be motivated before you run 100 miles or before you run a mile or before you do things. But I find that motivation don't know if motivation, do you see what I mean? Like, motivation is like feelings. I completely agree with you. thinking that but i have a schedule and so like especially like my kickboxing workout days i know

2:03:24 Now I'm'm now everything is savagery and then after that it'll give me a whole minute where I could drink water and rest and I And then just go do that. need a video they need something that's true and just i think just seeing someone else do it yeah That's pretty good. That's the maximum they let you do that you can get to get like we get tested on um

2:06:39 No. He always did those kipping pull-ups. Versus even going up. Like, right now I'm doing a lot of barre, which, like you were saying earlier, like with. But, like, some of these workouts, I'm only using, like, five-pound weights, You don't need a lot of weight for a lot of actions, you don't need like 15 pounds is a lot when you're doing those. I use, do you know what club bells are?

2:08:57 the bar, you'd go like this around and then you hold it in front. He's doing a two-hander one. Cam Haynes is a good buddy of mine. He's certainly in the top three. and you have to get to them before they get to a valley less than 10 success rate is bow hunting for elk so very for the average person not for a person Oh, so he kind of. since he started doing them, he's been doing it for decades, but they've actually developed these athletic contests

2:12:55 that are guides that take people, like, that know the terrain They say it's legs and lungs. Like running up hills is fucking terrible. Is it pounding on your knees? Isn't that amazing that that's all because of Nike? Yeah. yes yeah wider toe box is big i have. So for me, that's very important. You don't like the way they look or you don't like the way they feel?

2:16:10 They're toe jam shoes. Because if you don't have that, you know, yeah, yeah, of course. So on one of them he wore two socks. That's him. Totally does, right? Probably by the fucking Russians. So there you go. i think that just being on concrete like the last ultra I did was like running across Maine and it was all concrete. What do you do when you get out of there when something like that's over?

2:19:28 That was a first um so usually it takes like two days for me to be able to like walk again like normally um stairs are usually really hard but world record a world record yeah i can't you can't tell anybody can't tell can we help can we like sponsor All right. Well, I'm a little bit of like on a shoestring kind of adventure sometimes. Those rollers that I was telling you about, same company.

2:21:57 Because I think when I say I love running too much to run immediately after is because I don't want to get burnt out. Do you think that it would have maybe relieved some of that pain with the ice bath? out do you just say okay i need a wacky challenge i need something something that really pushes me this or that just because there's something so pure about doing something that hasn't been done

2:25:39 there's real physical challenges. But for that adventure, I'm driven by meeting people and seeing parts of the And also doing, like, 200-mile bike rides at one go. Okay. You should link up up find out yeah i mean i've talked to people about like their experiences if they have done But, yeah. athena that means like bigger people like athena really yeah have you heard of that before

2:28:42 140 pounds. and small people. You know, he's a very small guy. Maybe it's a mind thing. Is that a weird word for girls? I fucked that up too. What is that supposed to mean? She's a savage. I'm like what do you eat? She's like candy you'll see it more that women are holding their own and like compared to men like one she fucking Oh, interesting. Who calls it that?

2:32:41 He probably hates it. Doesn't like it. and being able yeah completely handle that yeah yeah most men most men do not have a high pain tolerance. a day i'd be a woman for a day wouldn't want i'm only gonna having sex with me like that's where When girls talk about sex or girls talk about work or girls talk about life. I want to run around and see what...

2:34:43 Have you pulled women? You want to punch a bag. ACL injuries a really elite woman kick, I'm sure there's a lot of variabilities. and worse being male and female how did he he do that? Like, it was... And that was one of them. Yeah. you know i i would agree like yeah i'm sure everyone it's different yeah but walking around with a baby inside of you a little thing

2:38:14 Like every time I hug them, Yeah. Like I think for a woman it's like exponentially crazier because they, they I mean, I feel so passionate about these upcoming, like, adventures. unless you've had a kid and then you know you have kids like no that's not real does people Yeah. run like so this is so these feats and these uh adventures are incredibly important to you

2:42:22 I've definitely lost speed and traded it for endurance and so But it's kind of like you pick your you pick your battle. Do you want to be fast or do you want to go fast, but it's kind of like you pick your battle. that it's really hard to do I mean, our bodies are really amazing. Hang in there. Hang in there. Could you tell?irming a little bit and they got to look in their face and they're like, hmm, maybe not yet. Hang in there.

2:44:40 You're an athlete. Yeah. Thank you very much.