Joe Rogan Experience #1644 — Ethan Suplee Transcript

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0:00 The Joe Rogan Experience. In jujitsu. I'm like fuck that guy. Let me get away from him. He's too big you look fucking great. That's awesome Well, over the past 20 years, I've gone back and forth with dieting. weight. Does that make sense? Yes. Yes. So when did the the process start so you kind of went back and forth but 270. Yeah, you're naturally building muscle just by like raising your heavier arm than the average. I used to always say that to all their weight. Yeah. You're naturally building muscle just by raising your heavier arm than the average.

3:39 I bet you do, dude. Yeah. It's crazy to see. Yeah. That's what everybody wants for abs. Yeah. Like this picture down here is, I believe, They're not all scarred up from surgeries. And prior to that, I had no sense of self. I wasn't eating junk food all day long and you're growing in your body too yeah Was not happy. Why were you miserable? I didn't like the way I looked I

9:45 like I would you know I should be slapped for saying that right a couple pounds on you I mean a product of all of your life experiences. And the idea that you're responsible for everything you do at every step of the day, that's not entirely plausible. what you do. it's not like I'm not saying there's nothing special about me. Some people can do it.

12:38 extraordinary the accomplishment is so it's magnificent i mean it really is it's an amazing accomplishment not He's the guy who I read and I go, oh shit, I don't have free will. And so once I'd lose weight and I'd wake up and go, well, none of the habits that I had cultivated for decades But there was a long time Right. It's a drug that your brain makes.

15:42 like $10 for their name, and they would bet that $10, anything man raindrops going down a window pane they would gamble on which drop like you see their There was a time when, and it's so bizarre that it came out but they have all, and they design it to like, But, you know, I don't think that's even really a realistic thing to do. It's that we have to come to grips with the fact that human beings are so different from

18:38 overweight and sedentary and wasn't doing anything and now he's a fucking beast that guy trains so We'll get you a trainer. And the minute that you miss a workout or miss a few or you hurt yourself, if you haven't People don't even know what a broken record is anymore, these fucking kids today. that are on anti-anxiety medication or SSRIs and all these different things, my first question is

20:58 can I walk past my car? Wow. It was incredible. I'm acknowledging that there's an issue you know. And that makes a lot of people feel uncomfortable. You can see through it. awful you know yeah gorillas are big yeah and it's just a weird thing but I think um you know And I wasn't in there every day. I was only going to yoga a couple of days a week. And I'd go

23:54 It's 105 degrees. the rest of the class with my heart rate jacked up and thought like, I can't believe I'm going to allow myself to die in this sauna because this chick has a rule. You know, like mostly ice and then water because it's going to melt during the class. Right. And I was like always trying to find the right level of ice and water. Yeah. You know, like mostly ice and then water because it's going to melt during the class.

25:10 Right. You only did it once? Wow. I used to do, well, there's a couple of times I did it and I said, I can't do this anymore. of what i'm capable i was like oh i have no pop no explosiveness my body's just so tired my body's You know, it's just, it's fucking, You have a timer. Psychologically. Stop it. part of me like and david goggins said that about uh himself he was like people think that it's easy

28:41 that's what I should use him for. around just watching television and then you shut the TV off and you feel like I thought it was, It's great when you've accomplished things and you feel good television just like network television in years oh no, no, I don't watch that. You put it on, the commercials are all medication and food. It seems unethical, and it seems weird that it's allowed like for sure

31:13 in a commercial and you're like, if you say to people, if you plant those seeds in their head, do you have this? Do you have that? who the fuck wants to that's not a Maybe you'll feel better. But here's the thing. fields of wheat and flowers. Because this is the problem that I have with a lot of things that people are very upset about today. back and you assume that everybody innately has the exact same set of values, then yeah,

34:50 But I can't tell anybody else to do that. necessarily have to want the exact same stuff. Yeah. There's also so much biological variability, If the goal is just weight loss, I don't think these are the same way surpassed that. That's awesome. Congratulations. Thank you very much. Yeah. I like, I have to thinks you're starving to death right you know and it's trying to slow everything down slowing everything down um over long periods you're

39:08 five years ago and in it and I had tried I was dead convinced that I was allergic to carbohydrates Nothing's poisonous. Nothing's awful. Like salt. If you have no salt, you can die. If you're, You're not going to put diesel fuel in your gas car. You're not going Maybe it is for somebody, but I couldn't do it. For I mean, he's a savage. an animal based diet

42:18 and they if you need to lose a shitload of weight and the idea of giving up carbohydrates, off the rails it's pasta yeah i'm a fucking glutton, dude. I'm done eating. I'm like, you fucking slob. it's not fun so it's not one of my go-tos but i do have pasta or rice or whole grain bread or Hard to digest, yeah. Dude, when gluten-free bread was invented, because this happened in the midst of me becoming

45:29 But, you know, there's so many trendy diets that come out and it's like you have a group over he brings me some jesus we make a deal like i give him elk meat he gives me sourdough bread and whenever he comes over he brings me some jesus we make a deal like i give And it's more delicious, which is crazy. You know what I mean? When I was a kid, we used to use Wonder Bread for fishing.

47:32 I mean, it's either that or, like, worm guts. Have you ever seen those people where they're driving boats and the carp fly out of the water and hit them in the head? them that's the thing they're so prolific they're a real problem because they're they're one of the Holy shit. Yeah. Yeah. You ever ever seen this i never saw it that crazy they're nuts that's like

49:27 It doesn't say why. Yeah, I was going to say it was a crab cake, but I was like, wait, it's fish. We have to add shit to our food. When I got to this waterfall down the street from my house, it was just choked with carp. In this place, there was not that thing going on. cover, like the bass, they want to hide so they can jump out and snatch up the other fish, but

51:21 Someone was just saying this, and it's a really good point, that invasive species, if you just found a way to make it profitable to go after those invasive species, that's the solution that they're trying to come up with with the python in Florida. They've killed all the raccoons, all the rabbits. You're like, no, man. Yeah. I mean, in California. So much so, have you ever watched that Swamp People show?

53:30 Because when I was a kid, I lived in Florida for a little bit. They're walking through people's backyards. A baby came out of the fucking pond at disney world I mean, if they started to mess with the beaches, that might get them shut down. They just decided that they have to kill all the wolves except for like a small number they poisoned them to the point where um at the turn of the century they were virtually extinct

56:08 it was really, it was in Canada. It was real blurry. It was at dusk. I saw this like dog-like they're one generation away from being wilbur just domesticate all the pigs you know that is the Like, do you ever heard of Hogzilla? But there are thousand pound pigs out there. What are you guessing, Jamie? I don't know. What was the number in your head?

58:17 It said over 1,000, but this Wikipedia says weight was 794. was one of those domestic pigs that broke All right. I doubt it, maybe. And that's what, again, this is my friend Steven Ronell, who's a legitimate wildlife But the one hanging from the legs, like right there, yeah. Look at the size of his feet. That's so weird. That sucks, yeah. That might be little.

1:01:29 could be a 500 pound pig which my friend shot a 300 pound pig real recently they're real and um Or the one he got was much bigger than that? So what they do is they set up at night with night vision and just like they look for these weird glowing bodies and they take them out. Texas is a, see there's like a tree stand back there or a feeder in the background.

1:03:15 I mean, it's harvesting meat and it's probably in some way more ethical than farming. Well, those things are different. that knows how to cook wild game well, They do. and then drive it out into the middle of nowhere like in Texas, you don't even have to have a tag. and they gun them down with machine guns. in... Exactly. That's all right. In a city.

1:05:53 That's crazy. October 7th there was October 23rd said they weren't I was trying to figure out if it said Yeah, archery is tricky. hits a kid you know people are i mean it all seems like a bad idea in a neighborhood yeah you know Because if you're not really good with a bow you're gonna have to figure out He's not a vicious dog, but he got this possum.

1:08:21 He's looking for squirrels. I don't even think he necessarily wants to kill it. Like I always go, Marshall, come on, buddy. First of all, possums have giant teeth. But they don't even defend themselves. a disease or whatever. Passed it. Dude, that's what it looked like. It can take the marsupial anywhere from a few minutes It's an involuntary reaction to threat.

1:11:31 They're immune to pit viper venom. Yeah, exactly. These giant teeth. i didn't even know how much fun this is right so that's like his favorite thing to do yeah other I think they're two completely separate things. Oh, boy, did they get upset. and then more and more people get involved giant stadiums full of people? StarCraft. For video games. I don't really understand it.

1:15:24 They're on the new games now. This guy's a star. to the games that will exist 15 years from now, they'll be even more immersive. I was starting a movie, given an Xbox 15 or more years ago. And the next thing I knew, So you never went to sleep? I had a virtual reality to virtual reality setups at an HTC vive and I had an oculus and Box in it. And when he hits you,

1:18:50 if it's true who cares we're here this is this whatever reality is what it is if it's fake Okay. Hundreds of billions. and you won't be able to tell the difference. He believes we're in it. when i talked to brian green and he was trying to explain it to me and again too dumb for that But they can kind of show it with mathematics. All the shit that the Pentagon's releasing and all of that.

1:23:19 than there are stars in the galaxy. Yeah. because we're a single living organism relationship with fungus and with with the nutrients that are in the ground and i mean when you think about what a probiotic is right like if you drink i love kombucha i drink a lot Right. guys too exactly so there's actually a company called defense soap and defense soap shout out

1:26:02 And they keep the skin biome healthy. And you're clearing it of everything that it's learned to fight over however long we've been here. unfortunately that some uh epidemiologists have made about our current situation in terms of like She had Corona? But she's just watching TV and chilling. a huge period of time where kids fingers are just dirty and sticky no matter what

1:29:03 I don't know that that's true. because i was asking if somebody's had corona why why are they pushing so hard for them to get vaccinated when the amount of reinfection doesn't look to be calories, but I'm going to not measure my ketchup. Yeah. Are you really counting calories? at the caloric value of them and eat them. That's perfectly great. And then like a sicko like me, I'm reading all the keto recipes of like how to make bagels

1:32:37 It does satisfy you. and but i am yeah but you can get to this place where you know your body is in some sort of a So I'll just kind of do this diet again sporadically um And I do it in private dippy phrases and words and ideas yeah yeah mindfulness is a legit concept yeah but it's because I was a mess. And that was his value. He was concerned for me, was basically at the

1:36:26 He had this conversation with me on a plane. I'm not going on a hike. of like fiber pills and vitamins and shakes. And that's what I ate for 60 days. And how much weight Just being malnourished. Wow. Yeah. I've been choked out It happened to me once One turn and I just I'm like I got this and then like just the blood go so yeah Hoot, hoot, hoot, hoot.

1:40:03 And they could get to like seven, ten, nine. They go way higher than seven and a half, and I'm fighting, and I'm going, and they could get to like 7, 10, 9. I was almost home. And I ate that way for another few months. are suddenly confronted with this fact that they have billowing skin and it's shocking and very Yeah. But muscle is. You want to do that.

1:43:53 Your brain wants you to look good. It's going to disappear. It really is strange. lift weights to gain muscle like no no you have to lift weights and then you have to tell your And then your appetite kicks in. Why are we carrying things? What is happening to that stuff inside your body? I feel like Superman. of the night where my stomach's like. Because you can use it.

1:46:46 And they would literally say like, this is the perfect, perfect meal for right now. It's high octane. I mean, this is the idea that food is fuel, right? Yeah. And there's so much going on, emotions. The turkey industry and then the pumpkin industry is really pumped about October. Pumpkin pie, I guess, actually. Pumpkin pie is pretty fucking good. It can't be much different.

1:49:14 Have you ever had these kelp noodles? Right. Yeah. The gas, everybody in my house would be furious with me. grams of protein into one meal a day, it would be a disaster. It would be a fucking disaster. And then he feels infinitely better and wrote this book about how, you know, how to cook he's got his body kind of dialed in to where he needs it and what to eat.

1:53:24 Yeah, I don't fuck with it. Craft service can get you, man. They come around with sandwiches halfway through the morning and there's still the table over there. They want you to feel like you're catered to, like as if you went to a resort yeah and they walk by would you like some ice cream yeah yes i would i'm on vacation anything especially in the morning when you're tired, when I'm tired

1:55:00 I don't start cooking hungry. Yeah For cardio You could pretend Can get into a movie And the next thing you you know you're like I'm fucking 150 beats a too hard or if the deficit slips too much, it's going to tap into, it's going to use some lean in loose shirts and they don't, they just, Yeah. you're super core focused yeah really because everything i do whether it's kickboxing or

1:58:27 I do a lot of those, and I do back extensions on those too. is flat on the ground, it's so much easier to sit up than it is with just this little hump. Oh, wow. But when you use that for sit-ups, it makes the sit-ups more demanding. And then I'll take two other 50s and I'll sit back and I'll sit up with the kettlebells. swings a day for 10 days. And I did that and I didn't get abs. And I was like, fucking I'm over

2:01:00 It was awful. It was really painful. yeah but like doing curls with my legs doing that it's very weak but it also allows you to do things because you you want to squeeze someone and hold them in place and you sort of develop that strength They weren't shit. I mean, Marcel Garcia. Yeah. Kimura's because he feels like Kimura's are a strongman move which is really

2:03:57 Kimura's because when you have to defend Kimura's They kind of have to do or they can do rather you know so you got this thing and you're yanking it back like that like they kind of have to do this right so as you anticipate that then you transition to a marcello got the back i remember i was in bra Brazil in 2003, and I saw him put Shaolin to sleep.

2:05:21 That's awesome. Done. And Shaolin is a world-class black belt. He kind of pulls guard, uses his legs to upset the balance, and he uses those legs as control when he gets a hold of a guy. shoulders like no no this guy this mousy looking fella was always smiling yeah And like everybody knew he wanted your back everybody knew knew he wants your back. Good luck stopping it.

2:07:55 I mean, we were all like, whoa, who is this guy? man and that kind of can work in other martial arts but man that smaller guy's got to be so But everyone's betting on Floyd, even though he's literally 50 pounds lighter than this guy, Yeah. I met the dude in person. Okay. yeah you would floyd is the favorite yes yes big big big big way oh 20 to 1. That Floyd wins. Right. Yeah, you would. Floyd is the favorite. Yes, yes, yes. In a big, big, big, big, big way.

2:10:33 Yeah. I really think. So you bet. Somebody's going to make a lot of money. him and hits him and hurts him. So if there's a moment in an exchange where Logan, who is a very good wrestler, I mean a very good wrestler, we saw him wrestle Paul Costa, who's a UFC middleweight What we're going to do is we're going to cover up. You might twist his ankle and fuck his knee up.

2:12:58 When he's throwing a punch at you, close the distance. underhook? It depends on the referee. That's the thing. Like some referees say fight, fight through And that's what he got. That's what's crazy. floyd was just not there when those punches land and then connor's punches became more and more him no it's it can it can there's no absolutes right you know here's the thing you have to think

2:16:30 Yeah, you beat him and he won't talk to you for two weeks. sleeping on silk sheets. pounds for life. My goals were literally just, I'm going to do this diet for four months. And so You have to realize he had $100 million in the bank and he knocked Cowboy's block off. And he shows the adjustments that and he shows the second fight and he shows There's a thing called compartment syndrome that happens where your blood pools up in the leg.

2:19:43 Look at that. Exactly. After the fight, his one leg is... just from swelling and tissue damage. that's in the calf and the compartment syndrome in the calf is uh it happens even more often on a disc somewhere i i did i did i i actually um i don't know why i want to see it i i will And I was like, I don't even understand what you're saying, i said i got my wisdom teeth when i had my wisdom teeth pulled they handed me my wisdom teeth i

2:23:47 I had one of those wound backs, yeah. It looks a lot. it was like something I had to take every day, no matter what, in case an infection happened. You think he's the greatest of all time? This is the consensus. situations and taps them like it's nothing from John Donaher who's And Gordon's like John Donaher's his striking coach as well. and every time I talk to him, I'm reminded how fucking brilliant the guy is.

2:27:14 And the two of them together, unstoppable combination. but who gives a shit? They have kickboxing with small gloves. When was that? if he does do MMA, he has to do it with wants to get manhandled. They get manhandled. For grappling because no one wants to get manhandled. and he said, open this envelope up after the match is over. And that's exactly what he did.

2:30:16 He's better than he was six weeks ago. go over here yeah like we're not gonna stop like we have a we're not gonna take a year off get the like multiple-time world champion. we got to this whole, we got to Gordon from this conversation about staph infection. So Gordon had He can only consume small amounts of food too. If you have this condition, damaged nerves and muscles don't function

2:33:21 Gastroparesis. He can't eat what he wants, and he's still the best. he'd need to eat a lot more exceptional human beings who can figure out He was training every day. Eddie Bravo always says that if you really want to get good, One was that he couldn't control Hickson because Hickson doesn't, he don't listen to anybody but Hickson. guy yes so hoist was a better example a better it was a better demonstration more impressive certainly yeah in that way and

2:36:39 No, no, of course. Yeah. Really? Pena is really good. But then if they put enough money, people will start to risk that. in mixed martial arts at least, to start having full stadiums again. It was Abu Dhabi Abu Dhabi exciting yeah it is it's uh it's a crazy sport man there's nothing like it really is nothing like it There's more involved. Prohaska.

2:40:44 and he just comes straight at you and puts it on you in this wild way and then he got really fucked up by Prohaska. And Francis Ngannou, if Jon and the UFC don't make an agreement, francis yeah because he face planted curtis blaze with one punch you know derrick can knock any man Yeah. Either way, I'm in for all of them no matter what. Yeah, he's something special.

2:43:15 he fights is not like anybody else yeah he just goes right at you yeah he just puts it on you he's Knocked him the fuck out too, which is crazy. Yeah. real dude who his job is to train tier one guys in edge weapons blades knives and stuff like that where I'm going to have like a street fight. And so when I would think about that, I would think Oh, really?

2:45:37 Right. These are California's laws. It's interesting the attitude about guns in California and how it shifted post-COVID, isn't it? it. had it in their house yes and and know how to keep it safe yeah yeah just make make sure that You know, I know you have more than one gun. Yeah. you don't even know how to aim it. so vulnerable yeah and you realize like wow that's what bullets sound like yeah little explosions

2:49:30 Well, people don't like the argument that if you take guns away, then you'll be helpless against a tyrannical government. They didn't have much of anything, and they seem to do pretty well against the U.S. government. Right. They're trying to say something that would work. It's, you don't want to ever think that the government could go south and become tyrannical,

2:51:11 America. Look what's going on in Canada. When you see 200 cops show up because these people If they see you outside your house, are they going to shoot you to protect other people? for COVID were obese. Michelle Obama had some get out and move campaign. Most people need vitamin D, even if you go outside, though, unfortunately, because you're wearing clothes and you don't want to get skin cancer.

2:54:17 Right. All that gets discussed is, you know, locking down, vaccinations, all these different things if they did start doing it, people would diet culture to racism also? And for me, I understand health was not my main driving motivation. I mean, today, And it's a bad proposition. They spent all their vacation time in the hotel room crafting a response like, man, don't do it.

2:58:19 When a wolf is cowering from the other wolves, they'll all attack that wolf and fuck it up. It's toxic or whatever it's it's toxic or whatever You're more confident. my family ate healthy when I was young it's hard for people to recognize that but i think overall in general we need to be way more No, you just become that person over a long period of time.

3:00:40 I'm like, there's Tom, that 40-year-old asshole. gas station. There's that old saying right hurt people hurt people that shit's real it is my fear with determination and and I drink this water, don't drink this water, I don't think this is the point of Sapolsky, but I think it's easy to hear that and to go like, You fucked this up. that's piling on on someone,

3:04:21 because it's a shit way to communicate It's right there, but it's not the wise thing to do. And I'm going to try to be a better person. So why would you just do it to anybody? Conversation and try to see their point of view I often. And I often have empathy and suddenly they're a real person. But if I They just decide, fuck the krauts. where you're just like, wait, what are you guys really fighting about right you guys are real close

3:08:22 that you did. Fuck. Imagine trying to tell someone who's 500 pounds, this is what you're going to have to do. Back. Dude, that's fucking real. If you think we're not in this together, if you think you're on your own, you're, you're, I love fights too, Well, him and Conor hugged after their second fight. It's a beautiful virtue. Yeah. shit yeah but if you caught me like three days in a row no gym who knows man maybe i maybe like

3:11:32 And I was thinking about this on the way over here. I love that guy. He's such a freak there's no one like Michael Malice I love that guy he's such a fun for sure I think about this sometimes But it wasn't like chaos of people killing right and left. other if you murdered someone they were the other yeah you know i think it's there's certain things

3:14:19 were just getting buried because potentially they were killed by their family. Yeah. want to make this you know this judgment that today's filled with monsters and assholes and Yeah. Yeah. we just did more than three fucking hours. Dude, thank you so much, man. I would love to.