Joe Rogan Experience #1648 — Reggie Watts Transcript
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0:00 the joe rogan experience train by day joe rogan podcast by night all day Oh, man. Very bold movie. It's like, I don't know, man. It's just translating as great movie sound, but it's just a rocket. Just the fact that that's a real thing, that in the center of every galaxy is this giant mass that's eating stars. you know that point it's like the event horizon it's like theoretically it wouldn't work like
2:45 We're here, right? It's like the Strawberry Alarm Clock or something. When you were singing it, the way you were singing it. There it is. There it is. Hulu series. Sasquatch was made. Yeah. Oh, my goodness. It's like the Borg, man. We are being called And we've got to get ourselves back to the dark like Midnight Rider. You're a musician. I was my philosophy on music when they're like what kind of music you listen to okay? Like I'm like anything that's good
5:30 Yeah, my friend Kirsten Joy Weiss, she's a trick shooter. and she's shooting 30 yards behind her. This is gun Pilates trick shot. she's almost like she's just a badass shooter on the Olympic team. but I mean, like shooting and target practice with a camera very philosophical stop that right now You don't want to drop your hand down. You got to like release it at the exact right time like yes
8:29 Yes. and they would land. It just makes sense. Yeah. i i had an ear so even if i didn't learn theory but i kept playing with musicians i would have And so I was born in Stuttgart, and then we moved to, I think, like, Italy, ended up in were like, oh, let's get him a toy piano. Oh, yeah, 100%. Then you start to notice, oh, it's a pattern. What do you mean?
12:58 I remember when jump when Eddie Van Halen huge deal right people were very upset It's like someone comes up, And you change the wavelength, the frequency, which was a West Coast philosophy, of a great piano? Really close. Really, really close. Could you tell the difference? They'll sample one note so many times Really? That and Wurlitzer. like there's always you have to send them to a tech to tune them up you know maybe the pickups
16:27 like Rhodes, clavinet, Hammond B3. nord because the nord sounded so good and that was in the early days and then it had everything But the HP series is semi-weighted. and you've got a Hammond B3. As far as I understand it, yeah, they're essentially, they're doing oversampling or they're sampling Yeah, and a lot of it has to do with the interface, And then, like, you know, I remember getting my first synth was a Roland W-30, which was technically the first workstation, which was, it was a synthesizer that had a sampler built into it.
19:50 Is real, doesn't matter because if you know that what you're doing is pressing play on this thing and it's recreating the sound of a piano could there's implications here right like we could get to artificial life and you could have there's people that argue, an electronic piano. Because when you're behind a piano, I mean, the weight of it and seeing the lid up, if that's how you have your playing style.
21:39 that's near the piano that picks it up and you have to figure out where to put the microphone and so they can mix in between for amplification. Like, there's a thing that happens all the time now or if you press it once, does it keep holding So like early organs organs when organs were popular It was just a synthesizer that only focused on making drum-like sounds
23:54 Yeah. appreciating someone's skill? Yeah like people who are really good with drums like and if and it's oversampled or it's sampled But a lot of drummers, you know, when you're listening to music and you listen to a drum, a beat, you're like, wow, that's a really well done. substitution for that you know hearing people play and a lot of drummers started playing like
26:36 And then there was like a bunch of cats in my own town So it would sound like sliced samples stuck together to make a beat just like they actually made the beats. And the confines or the constraints or introduction of new technology is more exciting to me as a creator. You know what I mean? He plays the bass like he's playing three instruments at once, right?
28:53 They're just doing it. Then they're using their voice to put a melody in there, then sneaking a bass line in between the notes, fluctuating. And it's just mind-blowing. but he was a five string basses and then you got five I'm gonna make a sound if I hit the body of the instrument the pickups I put in a different pickup musicianship to see it is amazing.
31:29 But he's like... there's something cool about like you know Russell Peters is a legit DJ oh I He's got the headphones, he's doing the whole thing. I mean other than the records right so like back in the day like oh, I had a record player and the guys like oh Yeah, true. The DJ saved my life from a broken heart. I mean, bands still exist in subculture for sure,
34:20 of the front person. So they're the face of it, right? So they represent the music. So in a way, because they're in the room or whatever. When you hear that, you're like, oh, my God, this is so beautiful and constructed in the musicianship and the production, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Like if you get five people that are in a band So like when you hear something like, oh, that's dope. Can you play that again? Like, Oh yeah. Oh, that's dope. Hold on. I got
36:27 Like, Some people will, yeah, their ego will, their, their eagle, their ego will, will come into it. in the world and you're kind of in service of it is generally how i like to look at it some people you're the real star you know that kind of shit yeah and then oh my god that's so common if that happens like i'm out of there that's not why i'm doing what
38:07 They come together. And then at the end of it, we're like, cool, we got all the songs. You record the music. matt because he's the guy who really did all the heavy lifting and i'm out of here and i just left That's what they said. I had a Hollywood moment. I knew he had a gig. Yeah, well also you don't need it. it's just not it's not worth it to me like I would rather just like figure out like ah shit how am I
41:32 We've gotten mixed up with commerce and nonsense and non-creative people. Yeah, that's true. But even in that It's like I mean I've been really lucky. I've had maybe two okay we'll see when it's made yeah that's about it that's what they do with stand-up specials Yeah, 100%. I'm like, what do you mean we've got to change? Thank you, but I'm not going to do it.
43:57 it that way in front of a live audience because i'm kind of free-flowing. I fuck around. I mix things up. Well, first of all, What was it? Is that correct? So they were just like, yeah, do you have any examples And I remember like the producer paging the curtain for me And I knew they were like But the thing is like, It's a, it's like a, think of it as like my own social media account, if you will.
46:52 We developed it for like, it's my friend, Oliver Thomas Klein, who's a genius. I remember being quoted like close to 200 grand. I was like, it's like I was building a house. we have a solution for it. So the pant itself is the absorbent thing. She did Impossible, the first Impossible Burger campaign. lot of money so much money and then uh and then sasha was like no no no no there's got to be
49:11 And he did it. Yeah, that happens. Yeah, algorithmize you or whatever. Can we watch? And, yeah. oh that's really dope so and such a Reggie Watts thing to do oh man you have Old people like to do it. Yeah. It's like you've been attacked by bees. And it totally turns into a music video and just suddenly out of nowhere. And it, and it kind of doing, but I'm doing a bunch of experiments. And so I'm going to do three of those, three of those as a live stream,
54:05 scaling so you eventually imagine you're gonna have a 50 inch holographic display Right. And it looks fucking fantastic. I'm going to take the feed, you push in to something. Even though it's 4K 60 frames, you're like, someone's setting down a she's gonna kill me. You'd know her. Yeah. Wow. there the designer obviously made it happen but um so that was my first thing, me and Ben did that. How long ago was this? That's a long time ago.
57:42 And right now, oh, and then there's this company called 3d live that I just saw an NFT installation on the 59th floor of the U S bank tower. Just this last weekend, you wore 3d glasses, Florida ceiling display. I don't know, 60 feet across and a wraparound 3d glasses. The NFTs are floating holographically in, in the center of the room. It was insane and I couldn't believe it.
58:31 Now he's like made his own installation. I know it's a non-fungible token. What is the- or be replaced by another identical item mutually interchangeable And you get a crypto wallet. Oh, wow. And then we formatted it. So it's the world's first holographic NFT, which bought by Lee what's name Charlie Lee Charlie Lee who created litecoin We've made it an NFT.
1:02:16 just you'd have to have a looking glass device and then you have to get the file in order to see it I hope so. video sort of so all of the art for a year like 5 000 pieces yeah yeah i mean someone bought it you know he has 69 actual million dollars yeah you just convert it and he can get a ferrari Yeah, you set the resale. So like on ours, There's the most expensive painting ever sold.
1:04:23 MBS. Salman. because this is where it gets controversial may or may not be the work of leonardo da vinci So an art dealer in 2005 paid So this person, I believe, started working on it in 2005, started the restoration. Yeah. technology involved in the scan but the scan apparently revealed that there's more than What is it called again? Mundi. Jesus.
1:08:30 People would, yeah, there's more than one version of it. I see. So they have to find the original layer. So what does that mean then? Yeah, I guess it just depends on what you want right i mean but that's the problem with this feeling of being rejected like that and you're like imagine you're that guy you're that guy i So this $450 million painting is on his yacht.
1:10:50 To have these paintings. He's buying $450 million paintings. And apparently, so I go down a rabbit hole. Well, there was a guy who was, that was his trade. magnificent right right right but it wasn't michel's. But he conned people. Yeah, he conned people. teeth that i could have just brushed my teeth with that same amount of effort and i wouldn't she invited me to that NFT gallery thing,
1:13:42 Can you send me stuff? or I Heart Comedy. It's this amazing fashion designer you didn't want to come initially, but you come from, I don't know how she just kind of distilled Because I've always kind of associated myself most with Anubis, you know, because like Anubis was like the watcher, the protector of the underworld. But now they're doing well.
1:16:52 and you're putting it into something. so if you would have seen that piece maybe when it was introduced and you understood the context That is like the for real deal. Because it's a famous guy. Basquiat. Well, that's not as much. Guess what I have? no i think that's the same one that you were isn't it maybe that's the documentary minute I mean, that's insane.
1:20:18 tech company and all of a sudden like you know you go to an ipo and you sell and you're worth a Oh, by the way, the Spirit Molecule guys, right? Yeah, and the other guy. because I didn't put together that you were the original guy. So I was like, so bizarre that I'm meeting them before you and I because I didn't I didn't I didn't put together that So, we were doing Robitussin, which had dextromethorphan in it, which is also a dissociative.
1:22:15 created the isolation tank he's also a pioneer in interspecies communication he was working on So they just wanted to fuck. Yes. dolphin in order to get it to comply but meanwhile you know what's really wrong how about slavery of yeah so lily developed the sensory deprivation tank so what he was trying to figure out a way and what's his name, William Hurt?
1:24:41 Eventually, they turn it into this thing where he's lying in it, Yes. you're just experiencing, not experiencing simultaneously, whatever. And it's very And to take that and then put that in a sensory deprivation tank, I mean, that's insane. injections of ketamine whitney's doing whitney cummings doing it with a mister a nasal mister Yeah. Excellent idea, would you like some?
1:28:34 it's a fix all everything do you remember the revelations yeah very much so it's different than I'm really fucking high like this is crazy like this is like a full-on Yes. You're supposed to go three. So I was like, oh, I'm breathing in plastic. the dose that I took that was different I've never snorted a drug. They blow it up your nose. to be dangerous, but I've heard of people getting addicted to it and wind up going into rehab.
1:31:43 So if you just keep hammering it all the time. Oh, okay. Or like I'm in Berlin. I'm like, I kind of get it, but mostly just weed. And it sounds so trite, right? It does, but you can. you're seeing them in a way that you've never seen them before and this release of like compassionate And they're like, oh my God, it is a Muppet. being silly in front of people
1:34:32 you're on stage. That's all it is. It's just a human saying some words that are setting up Or it is going well until it's not going, so I was out the other day, great too when the comedian comments on it right it's like you know i mean it's like you know i i Yes. Oh, this is going to be so stupid. it's he makes great wine oh wow like really. Like really good wine. And he's 100% dedicated to it.
1:37:26 Yeah. So he does other art that's more instantaneous and instantaneously gets into your body. So he starts taking wines and mixing them and creating these fake labels. and formulas written down of add a one-third this So he would be able to taste these notes in wine that a moron like me would not get and he was in with this guy I'm like, fuck, I think I know that guy.
1:40:16 If I had it, I'd be like, this is the best wine I've ever had. And then one guy gets a hold of it, and he goes, like, But it's like, oh, what are you tasting? Well. And so this guy has this like immense wine cellar. Like this is fake. you know and i guess probably some people are sitting some on some fake shit but they're It's really good because it's just...
1:44:07 Martin Sheen? And then they have this business where they're taking exotic animals and they're making culinary events, like underground secret, made from the rarest animals, You know what I mean? valuable and it's particularly valuable in some circles of elite people in Asia. No. And that's what it is. Man, you know, that reminds me of like, it was like one thing I wanted to mention.
1:47:08 That's the that's the only criteria for the job. And I know that politics is a whatever in our form, but I'm just not into it. uh vocal um i think it's a digital video a digital audio thing it's like Oh, sometimes I switch it to Australian. I end up just like, and then I change it to mail you know to like what's that like you know or whatever it's my wife uh had my kids do all the voices for ways
1:49:35 Oh my God. If you have like a good friend that would be into doing that for you, maybe you could do it for them. Like it'll make you kind of feel good. Yeah, with a WAV file or something. You could fidget with things and tweak, whereas Apple comes, Really? with it right because that's that's how it's made so they're like no we made it They don't? That's it.
1:52:04 But the reality is like when it comes to muscle cars, Sure. But they're usually called tuners. adjust the suspension in some way yeah or something but uh i don't know i just kind of look at it as moon it'll there's an actual setting that will adjust the aperture to make use of the I always have one Android device and one Apple. Fuck around with both operating systems. Why not? You know it i do it for all situations i have way too much
1:54:52 Where they use that Pegasus software from Israel transparency to a certain degree if you live a transparent life it it helps you know i'm willing Oh, yeah. And now there's image stabilization and video and iPhones. I looking forward i think the future is uh hopefully going to work in our favor. They're going to be simulations the way we're talking about, like a keyboard, a synthesizer simulates musical instruments, that someone will really take an actual account, like a real audit of all the things that people say.
1:57:41 going to cry they're going to get sad if you're mean to them oh my god it's going to get weird and then you're going to get tethered to them i mean if it's using it if it's using to happen and then they're going to cry. They're going to get sad if you're mean to them. Oh my God. You're going to have to bring it Like she's so annoying. You think so?
1:58:28 She's designed to please you and to be your friend, We take our AI very, we take our AI's privacy so it's going to happen. and you're going to go, An impression of a robot in the future picking up a glass. I think they're going to be able to actually make not just like a silicon-based life form, sufficient capability where almost anything is possible.
2:00:46 Yeah, I mean, if we can do it, we're going to do it. That is it, right? but there's no actual living beings per se. We could be that thing, yeah. and the things that they have Yeah. Yeah. any ship, moving at these insane speeds. You know, simulation theory, whatever. Like if they really wanted power, they would make sure that their community was doing well.
2:04:52 Well, yeah, absolutely. that's like, what do you want to, do you want to like constantly live in poverty right now? And We're just redistributing it. More people that have an opportunity to grow so that the economy grows. Exactly. Because you have more players. You're still going to deal with China. Hey, well, how did this, how's the experiment going? It's like,
2:07:48 We're doing all these weird things that intelligent creatures do to alter their environment, circle the wagon train because that's my whole thing it's like you don't have to like everybody There's not a shortage of resources that accounts for the level of poverty and all the disparity that we have in the world. It's like, what if you relinquish some of it?
2:09:27 What are you doing, bro? Really? No, but I mean, imagine if someone like that decided to just pay off all student debt. If we could even Google this. Okay, so he couldn't do it. It's just a little over. Okay, 56. Yeah, right, of course. Sure. good fellas fuck you pay me it doesn't matter what happens to you fuck you pay stuff that i mean luckily some things are uh what do you call apprenticeship possible it's possible
2:13:30 But are physical universities as important northern climates, snow days. I'd be like, sorry. And in the hallways were just, just covered in water. And then we just like went and got inside the school. What a fucked up way to die. and just dropped into the active volcano. Yeah, there's videos. pain or muscle fibers being ripped or sheared or something.
2:16:47 Yeah. Maybe it's a spiritual, automated spiritual transport system. Wow. Yeah. So you get to watch, you're helicoptering over the lava. It's volcanic activity. I never dropped a car. Or obviously if you threw it a cut of meat what i've seen is actually uh i think it was molten steel they had done i think that's what it was and they It's like, you'll see.
2:19:45 It could easily, right? cigarette or something like that and then there's an underground fire that's been burning for years Apparently, they tried to put it out at certain times. Whoa. Here it goes. Chucks it. And. Let's see. That's a really familiar, familiar volcano. I think let's see the jug. Oh, Wow. It's just God's jizz. or the same sphere, It's just like we've got all the shit
2:22:35 yeah like you'd see it like hey you know at any point in time this shit could go sideways and then Oh, my God. Yeah. That's so crazy. Yeah. They have a hypercar I know What is this? Tuatara. What? Yeah. Check that out. It uses these weird Yeah. I'm sure he loves me for that. I saw a hydrogen-powered Toyota. I can't wait. It's weird. It's a weird sound.
2:27:41 efficient, and it means business, but it's just 3.2. Like, look how fast things are passing them. that are like competing with world world-class engineers i mean it is world-class engineering It's the new 300 plus club. and you know somebody with an airstrip. There we go. It just still looks fake. Yeah, it's connected to the steering. Oh, yep. And as you turn it,
2:31:02 So I think they've only gotten it to 200 miles an hour now, which is a slightly detuned version of what it's fully capable of. Yeah, they're... Yeah, that's it. so as it ramps up. That sounds awesome. go to H-E-B I think you could yeah salad yeah it's just like guys they'll be right back it's like come on man Hennessey about it and he's telling me like what a this crazy task it up to 300 miles an hour. So there's engineering involved. I actually talked to John Hennessy about it,
2:33:03 What does it look like? It's got the single fin in the back, What? Active arrow in the front. You can get a regular driver's license and you'd buy a 2,000 horsepower car. 350 kilometers is what? It's like, it's got over 5,000 newton meters of force and torque. That's so nuts. Oh, yeah. the steering wheel comes to you probably that right yeah wow just keep it keep it static pretty
2:36:34 There's like a... McLaren? In the back. Whoa. and I don't know. It's still releasing CO2, but it's net zero. I kind of want to see. it yeah it's like a it's not a concept car no it's a real car it's a real car eqs edition one and his zone where he actually films the shit in that gigantic box with the overhead lights i mean And the woman asking the questions at one point was like, are you ever going to, people talk about the range of Teslas.
2:40:28 They're not fuel efficient. They're focused on how do you get those electrons to the motors and how is that expressed and how does it feel to interface with it. No, I haven't gone to their – It's just about speed and handling and engineering engineering engineering motor so like when when there isn't a charge in the applied to the motor um essentially it acts
2:43:14 coasts like a regular car does right but you do have a regen switch that you can press that adds It's super future and it sounds so sick. That seems silly. You know, it's just like. overcompensated, electrically powered steering. So I'm just like, hey, what's up? I'm in a, you uh an anti-roll so it's a gearbox at at the center point of each axle that fights against body roll
2:46:07 So you're like pulling like two Gs, maybe a little. correct me. I've never even heard of 10 pistons. It's crazy. It's crazy. I think, I hope I have Look at that too. Carbon fiber wheels. I think that's like the test model. about 10 hours. In 20 minutes? Yeah? I put in a Tesla, a Porsche charger in my garage for my Taycan and it's so complicated. It's like you plug it in, it's got to go online. Then you put in an access code and then it has to go online
2:49:36 Why did you make that so complicated, Portia? If you got a Taycan, you don't need to change it out. Here's the deal. Well, one of the great things about innovation and competition is that when other companies step up and make something even better, it forces the original company to catch up. I mean, Tesla can get to that point. Yeah. It's worth it.
2:51:34 So it's kind of like an outback. There's actually Neptune blue, which looks a bit... So those are the rock guards on the bottom. Yeah, Cross Trismount. I think it's a handsome color. But it was- I think we're going to see the next 918. I mean, they they just wouldn't understand it. They'd be like why yeah, I mean or maybe or why they just or they'd be so terrified
2:53:50 It's wild. I don't know if they're Hornets. I know. Wow. I mean, they're able to, like, bank and add thrust factoring. So it's like having rear-wheel steering, like, on whatever, sports cars. so it's going up. Look at that. And they also have, like, a low heat signature. And so imagine as a weapons platform, it's just rotating in the air, just firing weapons.
2:56:33 as well as an audiophile, a musician, and a comedian and all these things kind of pile well listen brother my pleasure you gotta come down Reggie Watts, ladies and gentlemen.