Joe Rogan Experience #1652 — Anthony Cumia Transcript

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0:00 the joe rogan experience train by day joe rogan podcast by night all day when you were doing it from your house in the basement I can open a bottle with anything, by the way. What was Phil's buddy's name? People are like, oh, Bud was. Good to be in Austin. This really pinches the back of your tongue. Good stuff. Yeah. It comes with the territory. better just so you can sleep and it's it's funny if you got a girl in the house you have to uh

3:37 The what they call cancel culture thing. To us, this was like, all right, it opens up a whole new world of what we can do. You're getting into the mind of a crazy homeless guy on the street. I think that was a month suspension from satellite radio. Cringe stand-up. Nobody knew what a podcast was. He had questions about this. Dude. So people remember the name of the show,

7:27 was in, we called it being in the barrel. Now you're sitting there going, you're looking at all the comics going, what can I use to get this off me? A lot of shows, a lot of hosts. oh that was on the opiate anthony show So it doesn't really matter who's saying it. something stupid I'll get fired I got into radio late. I never realized how You know, sometimes you got to talk out your ass.

10:36 talk and they're like jesus christ he's got like 94 men like what is going on here this is crazy Which is weird, right? I think there are people that actually think we have evolved out of that. be you're not free it doesn't and it's also equated somehow or another with cruelty with I think for what Howard did for the shock jock genre in radio, we kind were right at that precipice of of radio and podcast

13:51 and behind the door with the GM and the PD and all the other management people, they'd And it turned into they really did get mad. I met the guy. When because now you're fucking up their sales in the burger industry. You lose any of the magic one of the best things that happen with this podcast like in in this weird journey from doing I go, we all right?

16:09 Isn't that great? They're fucking great. It might be something else. your arm to see if you have COVID-19. That's true, too. his show, and it was great. I've done his show. of the top of that armored vehicle with a bullhorn, I'm like, I am fucking watching. have so many names in their dark little corners. Lie about you know, Wuhan lab being the source of this virus like no it is most likely most source of the virus

19:36 The way he was addressing those things. And that he actually knows what he's talking about. do, either they are so good at bullshitting the public, or there's When he was talking to them about censorship. was like for five days later and he's like well i'm back but back. But meanwhile, you can be good sometimes. Isn't this theater? And you see Fauci

21:44 him. I mean, what the fuck was going on there? What did you say to your neighbor? And it's a great story. And, again, I don't know. But cameras, have you noticed every crime that happens, Yeah, yeah. And then he flees down to Florida, which has no mask rules. He gave bonuses out. He could be the president. Is that a word? It seems like it should be.

24:49 Dude. Yeah, sure. They boarded it up and he's got to bust it down and then the cops show up. They're literally the healthiest fucking place on earth. the flatten the curve thing, the flatten the curve thing was completely based on, hey, You want to spread it out. When did it turn into, hey, you want to see a Yankee game? He needed to put his info into a government site to pop a code up on his phone

27:45 Hey, Bobby, I got a ticket to the Yankee game. They thought whoever got it would get over it, and then we would go back out, and no But how long was that supposed to take? what Jordan Peterson talked about when he was talking about laws, he's like, because then ability to just decide what the narrative is and block people from doing things. Oh, my God.

30:01 That message goes through. It's an actual medical doctor who treats patients, right and i don't know if that's why i think more likely there's people that are that are Yeah, yeah. He'll be back. What is that like Xanax and. Yeah. let me know when you can do it in person. So they said it was, Disavow, Joe. And it was just bad all over. I didn't want to hit her or anything.

34:19 We drive. I'm like, I'd never been arrested in my life. be pled out so i had to plea and sit there and do one of those things where you stand there and go When we see a trial on television, it's an anomaly. Or should I just plea? oh, wait, they're getting everything wrong. It's not just me. Any story they do is a lie. inform the people. off of this what who's gonna who's gonna buy time on a news show it's like well if we make the news

38:06 It's fantastic. version of something possible so if you present this horrible scenario people people are going to watch and then they're going to yap about it. So they're building. There was something you were getting to. yeah well it's understandable than the difference between see where your wife is, you can see where And I think one of the ways it's going to get us out of this,

41:03 It's more of what they're projecting. Yeah. Here's what's going on. all i just don't get that mindset why would you do that and it is because these people are just angry and they want Oh, no. Right, a human being. You find things to do that make you happy. It's fucking confusing out there. Because one of the things that happens when you're trying to get rich is all you think about is getting rich.

45:02 And that's a whole other thing. that's what you know So you kind of just let it linger in your mouth. You'd have to talk to Bobby Kelly about that. Why wouldn't you? Oh, right. Steps. But that was pretty much the gist of the whole thing was that if you can get to the reality that you are just kind of specks, you're just yeah you're a bunch of stuff stuff you're a bunch of stuff connected to a consciousness is connected to

47:57 Yeah, that's a lighter. Oh. That way, yeah? There you go go and then push that up there you go you really don't smoke cigars No places that get hacked more than porn, right? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. As a matter of fact, and then Nick DiPaolo, I do a show with Nick on Mondays on my channel. you're dead you're dead man you're dead meanwhile you have a thick neck now look at you that was

50:30 Missy makes me I Yeah. shit again. I have been It's right to porn. do you think it's like perverted porn it isn't really perverted i just like pale girls with big Hair is coming back. And then just cut everything off. Because it was that big triangle. over at my house and we were starting to fool around. I'm like, I don't care. so we're talking about 85, I guess.

54:16 You never knew when she was going to say stop. Oh, God. Fucking And it was like click and then bam, right in the front. Right, right. When I was 13 years old, there was this kid in my neighborhood. His name was Pauly Hudsonson he was a dangerous kid like he was already smoking cigarettes I remember thinking that. Not many guys did. He had some issues.

56:51 Nobody's dog was ever in the yard. It was this weird tree would grow of the really good kids and the really bad kids. They were calling B&Es. I had to ask what a B&E was. B& it was like yeah, he's doing B&E's like what's a B&E? When I was out in California, my dad lived out there. I'm like, it's a marionette. I'm going to buy him guns. I'd saddle my horse and ride up in the hills.

59:22 It's ranch country out there. Are you allowed to drink and drive a horse? I've seen many people hammered on horses back then because everyone was drunk. fucking have a good time on his horse have a a couple of brewskis. Ride around. Poor guy. Whoop. Got to get that out of there. Like the literally get back on the horse that threw you kind of a thing.

1:01:40 She was constantly buzzed. And she goes, why don't you go up and take a shower? And I'm walking to my bedroom. So I look in the room and there's Buzz. I think this, I'm going to have some sex. The older woman. And so you're a boy, and this is a woman. I got into bed with my underwear on. the next day and i looked at everyone differently i was just like these guys don't know what fucking

1:05:16 But it was the 70s. have just gotten an abortion. Hey, yeah, I got tickets. It's like I think people aged very quickly back then. That didn't exist before. I'd walk into my grandparents' house. He just wanted to check out. That one's done. You just never hear those names anymore. Wow. Yeah, stop that. It's just accept it. I always said Sylvester Stallone was my canary in the coal mine.

1:08:36 Keep an eye on him. There's fucking science that's making us live longer. which is an indication of your biological age, by 20 years. Oh, yeah. I go, looks good. shit, when people Isn't that fucked up? They want you to stop doing what you're doing. It doesn't make any sense. I know. I like talking to Joe. think back to the Dice gig Who else was with us?

1:11:39 I couldn't look over at you anymore. Right. Oh, God. his back on his buddy underage it. And he goes, oh, I haven't spoken to him and I don't plan to. And if you get blackballed, you're fucked. We can't have you. No one's being punished for that. yeah he just said he's kind of you know he didn't say i'm cutting him off as a friend But if someone said, are you working with Jim Norton?

1:15:38 innocent you think there are uh phone calls that go back and forth and go dude i'm gonna have to for films and you're constantly auditioning well you're you're you also or present themselves as liberal and they do that specifically as a marketing strategy yeah it Exactly. I just fuck up. Because I'm lying. And I won't next time. Maybe he didn't know.

1:18:25 Jordan Peterson said he was talking about the courage and bravery that it takes to actually say, hey, I agree with this. repercussions, these days that is a brave thing. had him on the show quite a few times and i get you know from the fans why you have this piece He's that guy. They don't care what the context is. that the names and labels and they're like,

1:21:18 You're crying wolf. When you aren't able to ride in the front of the bus. Right. No, get in there. I would be worried about murderous thoughts. And I'm pretty fucking liberal. I assumed you understood what I was saying. It's something I cultivate. I'm not perfect, but my intent is always to be a good And what's the percentage that I'm high and drunk?

1:24:41 Yeah. tit thing. And then you have Like, ah, fuck. this is you know it looks bad but if you listen to the tape in context, you'll see that there was no seriousness to it. I was just walking down the street. They say nothing he said is violated in any of our terms. Yeah. Because I don't and when a comic says something, It's not your lawyer to get out

1:27:10 We're doing this Comedians of the Compound thing. They're like, Rogan's coming here. You got a power. the curtain don rick knows there and rickles they didn't know what the fuck was gonna happen yeah We were sitting in my house watching on my laptop you doing live in the compound. That's why. Yeah. And you had a full setup with broadcast style microphones and real production cameras.

1:30:14 I enjoyed it very much. I could do whatever the fuck I want. Because Mark Maron was the guy for a while. it's like there's less chaos i think you're more open to um other people's ideologies too at least didn't tag in all the liberal people that I had on right all the progressive Joe Rogan favorably It's always a minefield. And I'm not trying to be a bad person.

1:33:05 you ever been chastised of lack of a better word from uh your ufc job never really fucking how He's a great guy. he goes hey listen i don't give a fuck what Rogan talks about as long as he's talking about MMA to give like I just want to enhance the broadcast. sport, and it comes across Who were like their big guys at the time? So I would talk to Dana about Pride and K-1 and like you should try to get Sakurai.

1:36:06 Best Damn Sports Show period. Remember that show? Chuck Liddell fought How did you feel doing it? I tell that to comics when they're thinking about doing a podcast. Full of piss and vinegar. Oh, my God. I'm like, ah. That's what I wanted. Doing things because you like them. I did it because I saw you with a machine gun standing in front of a green screen.

1:38:35 you've always been fucking supportive and then when that happened that's when i started doing The bandwidth charges are giant. Well, let me tell you something that happened in fucking 1997. and try to put up on a site. up there all the time and fucking this digital camera. Then time. Like I said, mid-90s. And I'm like, oh, that's the catch. strange. And if your material

1:42:00 oh they do it all the time tim dillon is a a real problem. Like, Tim Dillon's, most of his stuff gets demonetized. Yep. And then they'll tell you, well, make your own internet. this piece of shit? thought in a strange way. He's not even gay anymore. He really is. we can't call him homophobic we can't call him anti-semitic what label can we put on this well they just

1:45:11 right but i'm saying that it's common do you say these things on purpose joe that i'm not saying It's not thought of the same. Got in deep trouble for that very thing. Yeah. hanging on if you found out they were banging 17 yearyear-old kids, you'd want to high-five those kids. we read well not immediately we just read what happened right it's like all right she drove him

1:48:05 100%. That sexual equality, there's no sexual equality in Look at his little beard. And it doesn't make any sense. there is no equality show me that again i don. I don't even know what the goal is there. She's hot as fuck. where they're going he's got his bottle of milk and then it ends and then they go, okay, so what do you think? Do you think someone was sitting there just going, like in big, I don't get it.

1:51:06 and fuck some old ladies it doesn't make any sense it's the craziest commercial of all time army. That men pass every single, you get the wimpiest guy who's going to pass it. And women I haven't seen the commercial. He was happy that the head of the FBI at the time, Brennan, had a rainbow lanyard on his thing. Yes. They had another thing going on this week.

1:53:42 The Daily Dot. Is this it right here? You are worth it. Well, you know, they're just trying to tap into this movement that we have today. never gonna see that so I think this is just that it's another way for them to of fulfillment in a very different way here at CIA. I love my job because I have I'm also encouraged to curate special collections that challenge expectation.

1:56:48 This is the CIA. to ensure that every single person, I would... Does that guy want to be working there for real? Like working somewhere where they're not trying to torture people. Maybe they're doing that to recruit people because they feel like the world is a little different than it used to be. The CIA, a lot of it is undercover work. That seems like theater.

1:59:52 corners of the world where real horrific It really does. Because they didn't want to exactly say that it happened or didn't happen? They're like, all right, we're going to raise this submarine and find the missiles and all their intelligence information in this thing. Dude, they took this thing out. They got that through playing Yahtzee with a nose ring.

2:02:30 bottom of a ship. Sci-fi And it took a while to build the ship from scratch. They actually were able to tell the press, Yeah, that was the old days, man. And that's always been my argument. have fun, have a great life regardless. to Fire Island in the summer. they don't give a shit no an old queen So it's almost like you're looking at a nom vet that made it back or that.

2:05:35 Wasn't that the Bryan Singer argument? young person's yeah he just said look my again personal experience was this he was saying what through the fucking night. I don't know if that's true or if it's Now it's turning straight. What are you doing? experience where you might be depressed or suicidal or something a lot of born-again christians have And that's over the period of just a couple of years.

2:08:34 So I have to make accounts. have used her period blood to dye her hair. Something like that. And that was it. Gone. Gone. Exactly. I dog whistle a little bit. Yeah. they'll move left yeah and then they'll keep moving left and next you know either you're a They banned his Twitter account. Anything that can get in the way of that. And you're like, what?

2:11:50 There's no discrimination involved in this. Can't have that. And it was the SNL thing with Elon. Woke fans. He is, which is genius. the 10th Falcon 9 sending rockets up on the daily. I believe, and it's ironic that his company is Tesla, because I think since Nikolai Tesla, this is the next guy. Second time, they bring the first people back. And it's funny when they show the interior of the capsule.

2:16:06 where you could just sit there and it will do the work for you. the apollo program uh you wouldn't have the atom bomb without guess what if you just told him elon Does he seem like... There's no question. And he's one of those people that inspired and was behind one of these big jumps technologically. Yeah, I guess we can at some point. And that's what people are going to be.

2:18:43 And that's what he's ultimately thinking, the progression of Because what we're dealing with a lot today, know how to manipulate right but then when you're sitting there with some piece of shit that you How many people end up like the positive image in those commercials and not the laundry list of side effects? And then he takes a camera and just starts taking pictures of her.

2:21:29 But this is what the problem with selling pharmaceutical interventions is. Yeah. I just know the song. She's doing drug commercials. people because if you have and i'm not saying this is going to work for you but he has pretty Right. Now, but look, go further. were taken when I started the diet in March you're allergic to, for some people, it just might be sugar. It might be grains. Who knows what it

2:24:39 bribe they bribed these guys but they gave him like fifty thousand dollars and these guys come is fucking lies. It's nonsense. Yeah, there's a real argument that the growth and doubling of the human had to get smarter and more calculated. Oh, absolutely. And I don't have any health problems from doing it. That's how you're supposed to get your sugar.

2:27:12 seeds when these delicious fruits are in the center okay you're eating all this delicious How does that work? Right. reward systems that think that you're supposed to or eat, but I know a lot of people that do it. Well, she had an issue as well. But here's the thing, not optimal. are doing a good job, but you're still putting shit in your body. are we at? Something like that?

2:30:11 Everyone in this country has the ability to survive. chicken. I know. And you're They got to be slaughtered. Yeah. We have 70 percent of our people are obese. Oh, my God. It's one day. miles they are and they and pigs too and that's not including pigs and cows and everything else It's just not going to work. They don't have their own water. Are you telling me it's easier to go to another planet than to suck the salt out of the water?

2:34:30 Do we really? do it faster I mean, think about the amount of money we spend on all kinds of things. There's drought in California, which to me is, Are you loving living here instead of California? Here's a gun. Nice people, too. The taxes in New York. And, you know. Nice people, too. This guy is running a city that is just fucked with crime, unemployment.

2:37:09 How much has it changed in the last year? Everything they do is a potential, not even- You know, know when you're a cop you talk to a lot of cops they sign on to know they're going to And it's a shame because people go, well, just go to court. scenario you're going in there and anything you do is going to affect you negatively now there's thing with new york though too this guy's Oh, there's a debate tonight? Eric Adams.

2:39:59 need a Democratic You're getting nothing. in property taxes in Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Isn't a situation where You bring your taxable income down because you gave that to the New York state. Pay me. 10 years. You're like, who's this? It has to be. that people don't really mind as much also um keeping a small place up in new york and i'm Maybe bang a few of them out there.

2:43:30 It can be at times. Yeah. He's got deplatformed. will say, I don't want his voice going around my insulator. How much do... how much does it I think he's on some kind of conditional release from the last trouble he had where he has to stay clean. such a treasure. Dude, I know. He wouldn't even say that. He just wouldn't It looked like a murder scene.

2:47:31 Oh, he's brilliant. As they call it. again, but years maybe. And to food I imagine cuz you have to eat to live have to eat so you have to like He was doing so well and shit, you know? Well, during the pandemic, I, I like, I remember You don't want to babysit him. And it was funny, I just think it's sad. And they usually pull such asshole moves and they're liars and what have you.

2:51:23 I love watching Artie perform. Where you're not going to be tempted But hopefully the Art already I haven't with Artie and we're away from your nose because you just come out of the bathroom i go everyone knows already Voss is. And that's kind of why I did it. I didn't want to go to Florida. she's always had great jobs she's supervisors at the companies she works at she gets recruited

2:55:07 So after my house is sold, go down there. What's wrong with Myrtle Beach? I'm going to. But there's a couple of neighbors that were pretty cool. They fuck it. They're awesome. Naked girls. They loved in the house. Are you working again? Yeah, Yeah. Dead body in the house. You working again? I let the realtor do the work. And then the basement was a cement basement.

2:57:51 time. But there were also just Oh, no. we would do that. and I'm like motherfucker she's hot holy shit so she came over for my birthday they had invited We're just fucking making out Dude, I want it so bad. and I knew this was going to be a big thing. No, no. with the fucking jacuzzi bubbles, just grabbing each other's fucking crotches and things. and I'm laying there

3:00:58 Dude, Hmm. She goes to one of the walk-in closets. fuck. clothes and everything, her luggage, threw it in the fire pit and lit it on fire. Oh, boy. When is your Vulcan shows? At Vulcan, yeah. the reason why I'm doing