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0:00 The Joe Rogan Experience. very skinny who goes, you've really given me a lot of inspiration, how you'll just wear a midriff So I just crop that bitch. All I have is sweatpants. You need to find somewhere to cut it is all. I thought I hated man buns. this is an intervention. I don't know. It's long. I think he's transitioning. band. Was this like a COVID

2:49 I like I listen I'm all about I've been dealing with I realize I've been really judging a lot of people and wasting my time i mean he actually didn't it was like i said it right of course people are all faux i know but My kids love it. Oh, my God. You should have had a better name. You know, there's a lot, obviously a lot of Tex-Mex, obviously a lot of barbecue.

4:51 There's a lot of different, You don't need to go anywhere else. It was fast. Well, it's a cafeteria style. I like doing the thing. butcher paper. It's an art. It really is. Slow smoking art, offset cooking. So good. that had like I hate it. It's mental. Yeah, that's true, and it's just you want to get it clean like right when it comes out of the oven, too

7:35 I watched an episode recently. You were ordained and married this couple yeah they were from Dallas yeah nice folks what No, they quit. you know, for this promise you made. non-religious wedding and the lady was very nice but she had the corniest fucking vows that you Did you cry at your wedding? I cry, in a lot of ways did you guys have like in that regard

10:18 you're like, okay, is this happening? Yeah. I have a lot of friends that have gotten married three, four times. but you're going to be doing 50 extra percent. How cool is it that it's 180 degrees in this room? That's what I'm saying. But that's a common thing here. and it's hard to... so it's like that shit's gonna get in your eyes. And I'm on stage and I sweat.

12:28 I'm like, is there something wrong with me? We need to make an excuse for this hair. Yeah. Oh, I don't think- So they put bales of hay in the hallways and lit them and filled them up with gasoline. everybody's wife i know once a guy's like i'm gonna fuck your wife that's when you gotta go i It's a wild ass indoor surf place. Oh. And the bodies of the people are underneath the water.

15:25 that would suck right you have no one to roll with this is like you have training i have not I'm sorry or welcome, whichever you're into. And then. Yeah. I just worked with her a couple of weeks ago. crowd work i mean she's like unmatched and i'm just so bonnie for 20 like 27 years i think list but if i was missing arms they wouldn't make fun of it and bonnie's like rich your like lisp

18:22 They just have two people that are just bop, bop, bop, bop. Well Well he can take it better than anybody I've ever met in my life. When everybody was piling on. like got out? and I always sat next to him. No, I was talking to Bonnie about it. You know what else? And he would just start doing stand-up. satellite radio. I forget which one was first. I think terrestrial was first and satellite was

20:54 i mean that's a good point but i think we just put it in i think we might have just put it in The guy just left the truck and forgot to put the brake on or something? Oh my God. I forgot. I've, I've been talking about this on stage, but I've never told you this. I had and she was really funny. No underwear? I had to go on stage. You're right. Oh, my God.

24:06 Was he just doing like the chicken heart? I didn't even know you could go behind that. LBS. It was like in the 90s, the shows there were so – it might not have been the 90s. You know that room's going to clear out. also, it's like a, you're to have to pick the whole room up is wild, but I would, I would go on But what I learned, this is something I taught myself over the pandemic too,

26:33 only guy that i ever saw that went up at nick's comedy stop and did well after the local headliners then eventually took over and was murdering yeah because if you're if you're thinking about this I'm not scared of any spots. Yeah. 37% of all small businesses in America are gone for good. open yeah you know target was open all these different places were open and they told small

28:38 That it was on purpose. Well, I'm... Yeah, I call it... But I, as someone that knows that I'm projecting an Adderall vibe right now. That was so fun AnnieLetterman.com. The days not too long ago when you were slapping hundreds into my hand well you were broke i know no i really appreciate it do but do you remember when i was gonna miss i'm on a plan i want to plan like a weekend do a weekend there just take a trip and and see

31:28 How are you obese and homeless? But it's also it didn't used to be like this. And they could do drugs. That's fucked like I'm just walking my dog. Well, and cops don't do anything. If someone jumps into someone's backyard, they don't arrest them. And New York. New York's been a disaster. wearing their pimp jackets. But in gangs are look this is what's

34:36 He used to love that area. But as we're talking shit on Los Angeles, there's still a lot of homeless people here. Well, there's a thing. Gutter people of Los Angeles is better. He just comes multiple times. That's not the case. Look at, they're all like six figures and more. You need a lot of people to deal with the homeless situation in LA. It's 100,000 homeless people.

36:54 but you're like, I understand. I want one of those. however the way they want to Well, that's why they like you can't loiter or litter or something so now the homeless people are like cleaning it's like Like it's like people that are not, you see them like leaning into that life or you're They passed a ban on it here, Two to 3,000. I was like, I was promised no masks and no homeless people.

39:20 I'm ready for them to be done. D you're talking about, is that the same you get from the sun? It's better if you get it from the I was yawning on the phone? Did I talk to you after the sauna? It's like a thing that I do. And I feel like that's like, everybody's vulnerable it's important it's important to express and it helps people but honestly I'm like do I want to go back do you want to go back I don't know I have to think about

42:27 it's just a lot. I'm sweaty too. mad fucking water. It's, I thought you were like, That's, What are you saying? Jesus Christ. Nice. I'm trying to find the right person to bring with me because in the green room. I can't, unless, you know, I find the right person. Well, the worst is when I've been pixelating. working oh that's nice it was so fun and i did their march madness contest where i like

45:40 coming back I'm going to all these different places my my thing will be coming out I'm coming back. I'm going to all these different places. My thing will be coming out. I'm also doing a show for the Eagles. It's for this charity called Laughter Heels. are you gonna say cunt Steve Simone's gonna be on it an all comedy show never stops working she's always grinding it's really unbelievable

47:44 business doesn't care about me you do that and there's all these exactly 100% energy of energy that you waste saying why what about me what about i don't know all these other people Someone doesn't like you or like your act before I didn't realize that when did it start over this this pandemic you didn't love yourself And I look at everything like the way I wasn't making money, the way I was like, I felt so

49:48 Yeah, that was me for a long time. But I've really worked on not doing that anymore because I would have so much anxiety even performing. that's awesome yeah i'm really it's been really amazing did you read books i've been taking out The Adult Chair, that's this really amazing woman, Michelle Chalfant, that I listened to. and I do these, I do meditations every night I do

52:32 people, but to me it's huge. stress. Why didn't you call somebody to see if they'll buy you out? I did. And they refused. So my circumstances were bad. They took our laundry away. month we live here. I don't give a shit how we do it. I open up my mailbox. I get a, there's a check Do you think you made that happen with your mind? With your shaman. you know what I've been using to what Duncan told me this when he did a episode of my podcast,

55:23 Yeah. I have a whole vision of what I wanna do. and I'm just open to looking at other studios. Just, I cried. the things that I love about you guys that I'm like like I want to that's what I aspire to be as better and then I'm looking for the positive and the good opportunities so right they always want to think they're the only ones who are struggling so they always want to

58:26 So my brother and I made this video. me ahead of time because they know me by it but look what happened instead in texas than all of the wild of the world really because of like of rich people wanting- Because people just have a fucking fence. Like zebras. No, you cannot. Are cannot are they short no they're It's like sweetheart of a dog. and he's kind of pulling him along on the leash.

1:01:30 Yeah. That's crazy. I thought you were going to say it was like a Black Panther rally. I have a video. It's a black cat. That's not true. I don't like Lone Star. Itthers do not exist in a Lone Star state. That's not true. Listen, that's what it looked like. If I was a girl, I'd want to get fucked by that. I don't believe so. I don't know. He said it was just like that.

1:03:47 Well, they probably are saying there's none just in the habitat, but it's because people- There's a lot of retired people. Look at you. Just get a fake one. Do you know that hunter? See known Jaguar shown right there? You're such a girl. Except look at those slides. But my point is that in South America, they're plentiful. They eat them. thinking deep dish pizzas and they think they're taking on the spirit of the jungle and this is

1:06:46 I am leaving today. that he would always be Yeah, there's no I think I broke through. Yeah. before he passed away, you know, It's always that way, whenever someone kills himself, it's always that horrible feeling where you could have done more. don't engage with Brody. Yeah. I don't want to say it because I don't know for sure. it was uh we went to this place outside of San Diego it was a in the desert it was really

1:09:46 it would have been really cool if I was able to touch base with someone and then have someone that was trained in there hard but gorgeous experience you know it was like so disgusting and beautiful i was i always think always like that's the only time it's okay for your dad to be inside you but it was like I could what if shit you know what that is though that's living in the past because that's that's you going

1:12:37 They always have this feeling like in another career are, and you go like, why don't I have this? This is like, you know, this is an ocean job. But anyway, so these people that have these jobs that have success in them then come into comedy The problem is, you know, when people have expectations, oftentimes they're either unrealistic or they're not grounded and centered in the reality of the circumstances you find yourself in.

1:14:36 How dare you? Yeah, it was great. It was fun. and then paul had the fucking antibodies which is kind of crazy he he goes yeah i was sick i to test everybody. Because they were worried about everybody being up on the roof together. And I'm like, well, just test everybody. But Burr was up there with us and Jay Leno. It's validation, right? And yeah, it felt great.

1:16:36 with showtime an hour i guess but it's you you get you you miss stuff you have to kill some of it Well... and i'm like okay i want to be nice because i love jay leno rich i'm like this is so crazy like He doesn't know. that stuff and you got to just be with a friend doing Jay Leno's car show is fun cuz you're hanging out with a friend buttoned down it's kind of stiff and you know you're waiting for the next thing and i just feel

1:19:39 Like you'd have to practice it in front of the audience. And then there's TV and podcasts. He told a fucking story about being at a mob club. I didn't even know I was going to love him and everyone. I'm like I just think in his mind that was his world when he was coming up, you know and in in his world Does he have kids? like five years ago i had just gotten into this stride where i was so happy with my set too. It was like maybe like five years ago. I had just gotten into this stride where I was so happy with my set.

1:22:00 I'll tell you later. I finally have an agent I love. I'm here to like make what I love. If you like it, other people will like it. Nobody really knows, you know, and the the industry folk are really just trying to find their way in about like but isn't that how you talk normally he goes yeah but this isn't normal you're on stage Yeah. Kill Cliff, pineapple jalapeno.

1:24:43 Yeah, but this stuff is so delicious these uh It's like a dehydration. I have to drink out of that. I was doing a bit. Oh, thank you so much. Really? But there's a punchline, the ones with the, Well, I fucking love that dude. suspension geometry and the way they That's what your license plate should say, boss bitch. Don't you want like anonymity? I don't want fur.

1:27:51 Yeah, with those moves. so they can sell more stuff. weaselly, non-talented little fucks and that's what they do. They just try to find people that Or if they don't suck, they're definitely not at their full potential. I just go on Twitter to like, I post a few things here and there, but I don't ever read It's a terrible way for human beings to communicate. And they're communicating

1:30:09 information all the time. You're not getting a real nuanced, balanced perspective. And one of So the millions of people that listen, Yeah, and you're right, it's not people that already, Because they wouldn't. And if you take things out of context and with the doing it to try to get the least charitable interpretation of who that person is, you're doing that in bad faith.

1:32:38 Look at this. Context especially since the guy opened for Tony the guy was on kill Tony even his like that was a thing his resume You know, even though I saw the whole set. They say things that are shocking that the audience knows they don't mean. it out of context and now you actually are hurting people right like it is there are people watching and that are going like he said that you know and now it's like what

1:35:04 all comes from the same place. Yeah, but it's not like a carefully crafted statement that definitely represents all of It's a leaked set. been monster so when people were looking at it go oh that's offensive he made fun of the the people It's almost like foreplay or something. Both holes? Yeah. That's a fucking right so she had her sitcom she came out and she had her sitcom, she came out, and then basically her sitcom went away.

1:38:18 right and they all their life they wanted to be the boss and all their life, they wanted to be the boss. And all their life, they get shut down. And all that stuff happened. Do you remember her? Her stand up was really good too. She goes, you know, when she was on the podcast talking about, she's like, I lost my fucking There's a lot going on. She goes, I thought she was Jewish.

1:40:36 and apologize for accusing her parents of like molestation or something because she got false Some lady couldn't see because And from that moment on, she's been mentally ill. spit and ground everybody went crazy they were so mad at her just screaming yeah she's nuts but wrote all that stuff she was explaining to me how the they they started phasing her out of the

1:42:29 There's a lot of shows. do some like eating nasty stuff they have to do all these different physical We're just, it's like Survivor. You never told me about this once. I mean, it is horrible. this is shocking. Obviously one of these? Which way do you? Where do you put it? Do you on stage. I'm like, are you guys one of these or one of these? Some guys are into foot jobs, right?

1:44:44 If you're lying on your back and you've got your feet up in the air. I get it. Listen, I got, I'm in the gym all the time. That's really hard to do, though. a pull-up i'd like to do pull-ups is my new thing yeah well you know what you should do you should Life cycle, I think it's called. I'm doing like a... What's a V6? He couldn't sleep. How do you say that word?

1:47:33 And it's incredible. point of bringing it up was that the church was having a negative impact on the land? No, You're like, holy fuck. And it's, if I had one car that I could only drive ever, I think it'd be a Tesla. It does update. is amazing i wish i was high population no you don't think you would have gotten paranoid i don't I'll send you some of her stuff.

1:50:52 weed, but I do sometimes feel like that. But I also, I know it's how you use it, right? I use it the scope yeah go full screen with this because it's fucking bananas the scope of the impact of I mean, I'm sure they do know why, but I don't know why. When you see it from the sky and you get to see the scale of some of the things they've done. There's this farm.

1:53:23 the last one down the road they just bought it and they were tearing it down. They do. When there is a they can extract resources, they do. But when you watch it in these films, away the mountain it's wild it's a weird movie because you're like whoa we're fucked up yeah I thought it was in Nigeria. Look at the size of that. Make it, tighten it up. I mean, they've got fucking millions of people, man.

1:56:07 There's quite a few. and there's not really arenas okay. oh and he's back just in time salvation ministries hands of god cathedral and he doesn't get taxed right You don't love the Lord as much as I do. Is it really? I don't know the exact... See? Boom. Perfect timing. That's all I needed to hear for the day. It's never over with anyone engaging with God. See?

1:58:21 Keep it together, bitch. Imagine if God said that to you, That fucking period was really. know when and i'll see if i can make it and i went in all caps i go you better not be mad at me she's Yes. Yesterday. But it looks like a car? And that's for cutting cigars? This trims the cigars too? i sometimes i try during when we're on that rooftop i was trying and i'm like i don't even

2:01:08 Grow out my mustache. I'd like to try race car driving. skydiving and then he um it would be gangster of us to keep going yeah that's what I'm saying but I was like this guy's not gonna want to die. So he's gonna do it, right? in the audience came up to me him and his wife and she goes at work and they're not there no it's like what happened they're like parachute didn't open

2:04:08 And he fucked himself up, but he still ended up doing the challenge, which is like three like that he only has one hand yeah i mean one of his hands only has a thumb like this but yeah but he's you know choking people like this where he's sliding it under the arm and then gripping his hands. Sure. It's okay. workouts or anything crazy like that kickboxing that's fucking you're you're putting a lot of

2:06:26 Really? Wow. yeah, Saying that as an open general statement is so fucking stupid because people have bulging discs that push on That's the type of shit I want to see. because his spine was crumbling. And he was, this is how he told me that I did have a bulging disc. And he took me in for an MRI. You have all these bones, and in between the bones, you have these discs.

2:09:39 a crazy thing to say because like my friend travis luter who is in here with Kevin Holland who's his coach he's a an infamous jujitsu guy like faint very But I just went to class as the exercise and learning the things. on is like strengthening my neck and strengthening my back and strengthening all of the the different Yes. always want to cut you.

2:11:33 Some doctors are awesome. And then I found out They take your own blood and they spin it in a centrifuge. For me, it was two weeks. Regenokine, again, it's like a platelet-rich plasma thing. Like everything I do, I do pretty much the same way I did when I was 25 or 35 or even 45. August what? I'll come up with something right? of dollars for all these

2:13:38 like these needles in my back. And you're like, it's fucking stress. Too much jizz? So TMD. Can you make that smaller, please? What the fuck, bro? I've tried like acupuncture. And I posted it and added don't suck dick. My jaw will start clicking. There's really, it's like. into um what do you call them what kind of doctor cranial sacral doctor like voodoo is that voodoo

2:16:40 I think it is. Oh, okay. What? Does CBD work for you? Does that reduce inflammation? A lot of sicknesses and disease comes out of inflammation. Yeah, there you go. These things right here. It's wild. While you're in there, I'd like to, can you help me with my gag reflex? basically just yeah probably good i probably did feel good and that's like oh i do feel a release

2:19:57 I had to do it. Hey, you're looking at my asshole. But there was one I got where this guy left the room and you know how they're supposed um, I'm like, than the girls. but trust me. Someone else had already done it, but she was doing like a fake kettlebell workout. In real life? angelica has the pussy i just went to her page did you see this thing she posted yes that guy

2:22:21 They're hanging from the ass meat. I went to this party up in the, like in the mountains, So they had done an episode where they came, there were these like oil, these like lesbian How old were you? they had a bed of nails. i think a piercing and then they did they pierced people's backs and they were like suspending them They would put a cut in their chest plates yeah and they would uh hang them

2:24:53 The really tough guys wanted it to rip through their muscle tissue Oh, okay. What? Well, she likes to have a tight booty grip on the cock as well. Yeah, yeah. You should get her in. Smell it. Wait a second. in the paint oh yeah yeah he was uh i never heard hard in the paint. Oh, yeah. Yeah, he was. I never heard hard in the paint, that line, but I understand.

2:27:34 And then he'd go, okay, can't do this anymore. We were working out in her gym, watching you guys. No one knew who won. Like in some audit of the... I'm a comedian. Did you learn that from your friend, Jim? You were basically living in her place for a while, right? And I think it's such a good podcast. You know what it is? we got really tight after that.

2:30:16 It's a good one. There's some government official reading those things. guys together it's a fucking wicked combination and you definitely should do something together It's like me and him together. out here and look around i go dude move here sell your fucking house it's too cold in ashville get solid fucking options now and things are coming together finally i it's a long story and one day

2:32:40 But once it's up and running. people are fucking addicts i'm this close this close to getting a fucking flip phone yeah i think I didn't watch it yet. Okay, wait. Some of those are great. Some of those are great. But also what's starts dialing someone else. And then I would swipe out of it. So even when I was calling people, it was trying to hang up.

2:35:08 Thank you so much. Like this whole checking Twitter all day It's a nightmare because it sucks you in. it's like i just post my stuff and then i i away. I think my move is to have that as like an extra phone So first of all, everyone's always like, Okay. That was her ketamine phase. I'm like, this is the number. Because I know ketamine is like, I think it's a disassociative.

2:37:34 I was on it for a little while, too. Apparently like Neil Brennan did it. He said, cause I go, what is it? I go, you're going to, that's legal. I mean, They strap him to a chair. Like he's a mental patient and shove a fucking needle in his arm. It's an insane dose they give you. I mean, I used to do it at parties. I'm like- I was like, oh my God. And Jay's like, okay.

2:39:49 This was the beginning. It makes more sense. anytime comics can get together like that that were our peers rates of transmit or the rates of uh people getting it now are so low. I just hope more people use a preventative approach from here on out and take care of their body. that are just normal healthy folks this is your chance this is your wake-up call get your fucking

2:42:07 And I was like, oh, you should wear this outfit. Yeah. You have to do it with a mask on. I know, right? You know what I like about them? And then they pull it up and they have to. and then like I did a show uh Friday night in Arizona and it felt normal but it still feels lot of things like that it's like comedy is like so many of the bits that turned out to be some of

2:45:05 Like this, this version of the bit doesn't exist. And you can get them all or you can get a lot more of them if you just restructure things it also for me like i know the discipline of like knowing where Or maybe you need to look at it from other people. That's a great perspective. It was so sweet. Would you go with me? Do a show. What can we do? Well, I'm booked in Vegas already.

2:47:10 Yeah, July 8th and 9th. I told you he got me in my starting comp pretty much. And Esther Koo was like, Oh, put her on your new show. I went on the road with him. you should have come up. But it was at the point in time where people were really freaked out. I'm really happy about that. I was having GERD, which is so... Did you hear a fart? It's horrific.

2:49:48 That mouth sphincter. here it is pylori and i didn't have the h pylori but i was shitting black i was shitting fucking black look Do you? I mean, anybody can. ID to get. You'd have to drink like a gallon of it to catch a slight buzz. I'm like, you can eat shit. What the fuck? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. You had to buy your alcohol. rules. I had a friend who was a Mormon and he's like, you can't have coffee, you know, in my religion.

2:53:23 Well, they're just finding like loopholes, right? which I'm excited about. on your Instagram, Annie Letterman? Save stories. It'll help you a lot. Yeah, but it just will only get seen by like a few thousand. but because you are in our small business, So if it's taking up comment on it, and you want to promote it you'd AnnieLetterman.com. Do all that shit.

2:55:52 because when we first met I feel great. This must have some sort of milk or something in it. remember when you would perform and they didn't know who you were oh yeah it's so hard because because they knew me from Fear Factor. And that took a while it was during the beginning of the podcast And then I slam them into a wall and ask for a hundred bucks.

2:58:11 yeah well i'm so happy that i don't need that anymore no i'm happy you don't need it i knew He really shit is that dude? Yeah and they're really good at putting, where you just get to kind of perform to so few people Like, and you are doing a show, and Jessalyn X on the show, and this person and that person, all these killers. I don't want to do it.

3:00:29 I really honestly, I feel like very happy with my trajectory. And you're awesome. Annie Letterman dot com Bye guys