Joe Rogan Experience #1669 — Kyle Kulinski Transcript

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0:00 The Joe Rogan Experience. Oh, that was fun. That was definitely true. Thanks. Comedy is an interesting art. That's what it's kind of like. there wasn't confidence behind it and it just fell flat and so it makes me feel And for a little bit, he was on top of the world of comedy. He gives you just the right amount of pause. Have you always been that guy?

3:37 Yes. I have endless amounts of energy. And that's, you know, according to some psychologists, you develop. Like Bill Burr is the best at that because Bill, his entire podcast for years is and so he has like one guy who is right there with him who laughs at everything he says to three and you actually have to talk for one third of the time, I struggle with that because

6:26 yeah, when I do my podcast with Crystal and we're interviewing our guests, it's sometimes, Because if we're doing this like this and we're talking at the same time with no headphones on, that's how people talk in normal conversation. and you occasionally talk over each other, it's normal. Well, I feel like when you think about late night talk shows or any of the things in traditional media that we've been exposed to that were people interviewing people,

8:23 And you're like, hey, stop fucking moving. you know two people sitting there like the way You still get something that's more raw. Yeah, sure pretty sure see my memory starts with Johnny Carson Yeah, Steve Allen with Sammy Davis Show. Okay. Because it's saying the Steve Allen show. Okay. What? Like, if you're like, yeah, my father used to host a Tonight Show.

12:03 If you told me that that was a real person, I'd be like, there's no Remember that? Remember that? one of those, you know how they used to have like the porn Because I don't think they're stopping people from jerking off in regular theaters that And it was all black poles, white holes, that kind of shit. I think we saw a bunch. And I'm sitting there like, hold on, I thought these were the conservative

13:54 Right. I have no idea, but there's obviously some percentage of people who haven't really caught up to the times. I don't know. But it's funny to me that like, they also have those uh porn star expos and there's people who follow these That's definitely not never happened. you feel socially like They're big deals. And this is coming from a guy who wears a fanny pack.

16:12 It's kind of in the neighborhood You won't wear it. I'll give it a test drive, Joe Biden. He was asked a Like, what the fuck are you saying? I was reading his Twitter feed. thing like you know that you can't possibly believe what you're saying is true that putin Killed a bunch of people who talk shit about him. Look at this. Don't worry. So scroll down there.

19:33 It's fucking demented. pablum's a good word so it's interesting because this is why people hate the media, right? but the second that he got the nomination, they stopped. Nobody's allowed to say it. And if you So in terms of what Trump was doing, Trump bombed Syria, who's Russia's top ally. but they're framing it as if like, oh, Joe Biden, he's so weak and he's, you know,

22:45 Yeah. So it was always out of the realm of policy. They're actually very intelligent that I would agree with. That's a good question. around him knows that but a lot of the big decisions I'm sure they have to land on his desk and what did they do dirt for Like he acted like a normal person. There was that debate with Paul Ryan in 2012. like this about politics? When did you get really into politics? That's a great question. So I had to be probably high school age, maybe a little bit younger than that.

25:44 The tide goes in, the tide goes out. Really? Like why is it impossible for everything to come out of nothing? Like, well, not only is there a way, they can show you all the steps. would need to be infinitely more complex than the thing that they created. are on this stuff but i'm just humble in the face of all of it and i always say i have no fucking

28:43 Obviously, that would have profound effects on our climate. His name's Louie Gohmert. if you let a guy like that do an experiment where he moved the moon? thought that barack obama was going to resurrect the ottoman empire in a speech he gave on the Very likely, yes, that's the case. I don't know how That's what he's talking about. He thought he was saying something else,

30:41 He's like, go move the moon. It's smaller than that, I think. the Earth's diameter, though, Or is that Mars? Because I think that's Mars. There used to be One of the theories as to how we started to exist is some sort of meteor or whatever coming from Mars and landing here in some primordial soup. are carried on asteroids. Paul Stamets explained it to me

33:15 why when you take them, you feel like you are communicating with aliens because that's Right. So, but you told me it was in one of our previous podcasts. You're like, Hey, was all gone. And now I was just in the moment in the here and now. The other thing it did is I It's almost just like just a little this just a little this is it for ik feel you meaning when people were on low doses of psilocybin, you can detect, like you see,

36:41 going, it seems real because it's like these compounds are affecting the actual visuals that you receive, and this stuff has a wild reaction. I don't know. divine wisdom. And it's real. You'll experience divine wisdom. You'll be in the presence of God that are tactile and measurable here on you know conscious earth this experience that you have when

39:47 or shielding yourself from or maybe you're too hard on yourself and it wants to embrace you with wild visions of the horrible things the some anxiety or depression or whatever it might be. There's a lot of people in that camp. Um, with an intent and going into it and experiencing it in the right set and setting can have a a lot of a lot of experience doing it like you've gotten that high a bunch of times you can like

43:10 And, yes. And I remember being so scared that I woke up in a cold sweat, and I was scared for like an hour in the conscious world. because if i view myself as generally happy which i do then then you can see where my drug preferences now come from. past where you know like sometimes in a relationship a person presents themselves as one thing and then

45:16 where you think this relationship's gonna go one way, And I think most people that have a very involved career and they're, I'm like, Yes. Very disciplined, work a lot. That is very true. Yeah. Oh, she's great. They're worried about getting intimate with someone who turns out to not be what they're presenting. that gets back to the point about psychedelics,

47:38 I'm not really skateboarding and I'm not really worried about Godzilla. I think they're just And when you're looking, you're like, getcha! Gotcha, Kyle! see if you could pull that up, but wait, with the Exorcist demon and then It says the Exorcist 10. Do you remember that part? quick shot of that thing isn't that thing scary looking yeah kind of scary i'll fuck that dude

50:15 I thought I was a hardcore mild only person. No, I'm not a meatloaf guy. I like it lit up. No, it doesn't bother me at all. she'll eat jalapenos she she goes hard and then the other one I want to have Oh, yeah. Yeah. You're not, there's Like, right out of the box. Yeah, it's funny I'm sitting in the living room But then the more study they did on the genome, the more they realized like, oh, this shit comes down to wolves.

53:27 That's a good question. I didn't know a tiger could kill a crocodile, but they can. Yeah, a jaguar you said you thought you saw, right? on a complete different level than everything Wandering around a residential neighborhood. look up Oh, yeah. So that's what it is, a Jaguarundi. So if I took a guess, I would say it was like, you know, somewhere North of 60 pounds.

56:16 You go, hey, man, the gerbil's my friend. And the dog's like, okay. That's how they're wired. Yeah, and those things are not easy to fucking domesticate. Yeah, this was in her yard, and Whitney always has like 80 fucking, look at that thing. It may have been a mountain. so you're kind of splitting hairs yeah it's not domesticated like the way you know a fucking an

58:33 It's calm enough so it doesn't kill you. Three what? Three wolves. He had like wolf hybrids. They were like seven. Oh, the wolf dogs. I had a friend who had three of those things and it was weird three wolves and they didn't kill him but they could Whitney's house. Yeah, she's got a fucking bobcat wandering around her backyard. I have no idea why it started out.

59:59 floor window and scientist on and squirrel scientist was saying that squirrels a female squirrel when she is in This is embarrassing for me, not you. You can cook a marshmallow over a cat pussy. I don't know, man. term, like you said. Yes. Yeah. I think if you put a flare up and they give Oh, like a peacock doing the... Joe, I want to ask to see that, but I don't want to be labeled horny for monkeys.

1:03:05 I think they're like, Yeah. monkey butt colors. Click on the article, Popular Science. It says right there, only the blue light makes it out. is it. But there's no article Because we're gross. No plural. Like if deer did that, And how long does it last? But then if you go to Colorado, the rut's in September. And that's also when the antlers. Maybe, I don't know.

1:06:48 I'm not sure either. Well, you know the size of the balls of primates is directly related are naughty. and whatnot? I'm not Chris. We read, it's funny though, cause we asked him some questions about sex in relation to And that there wasn't possession. Like a lot of fighter pilots would wife swap, They would share everything in the same way that they share mates.

1:09:39 want that one to be my own and so i don't know i don't know i feel like the funny thing is i feel like human beings have both instincts and so it's really like almost like pick which one wins out which one is more and roads. That is the way we do it. It's natural. That's why it's a tough conversation because, I don't want the AI to overtake us, Joe.

1:11:14 but my instinct is always, especially when it comes to people's jobs and people's well-being, with fucking nothing and then the robots doing all the work and giving all the money to the top going to have, I mean, we already have worse income and wealth inequality than the fucking That's just factually not true transcend the current state of their existence in terms of like their financial situation or where they live and you

1:15:05 But the competition thing seems and this is coming from a person who's very competitive and a bit they want to knock it down. because they want their genes to pass on. is all going to be enhanced by technology in a way where we're willing to give up this idea of a woman carrying a baby inside of her body and then it coming out like that. I wonder if we can get

1:17:12 evolution but i like your point about competition because there are people who would argue you just is create a system that allows all of the things about you to thrive, and you harness those things That might be where we're doing it wrong, right? I am 100% with you on that, that I think that if if our if our country really looked at itself like a community and we really wanted everyone in the community to have their needs met and we all agreed on that, you know, because this is this idea that some people are lazy and this is why welfare doesn't work.

1:19:36 So you can't have a quality of outcome I think that we have to think of the other stuff. There's a way to cover people's expenses in terms of food and in terms of health care Now, by the way, studies show that you actually save money. The taxpayer saves money. but you're also doing the right thing economically. you know, it's determinism. why someone didn't make it, that's when things

1:22:05 Yeah. That's my point. So they found that the percentage of the money that went towards what people view as vices, so like drinking or gambling or whatever it may be, 2%. Wow. So most of the The polls on that thing are through the roof. You better look at all the corruption in our government. Yeah. And what you mean by civilian death rate with drones is accidental. Yeah. People need to

1:24:17 He got rid of the guardrails too, though. Eighty three percent of the benefits of his 2017 tax cut bill went to the top 1%. If you're worried about where your money's going, look at that shit first. companies. We need to retain the talent. Because it all comes back to the corruption. what would that look like in terms of the restructuring of people's taxes and how much

1:27:06 The people are there, but of course the government is not there because they're corrupt. was struggling. Nobody had money, and they were like, fuck, that sounds like a great idea. just the increase for the year in military spending was $80 billion. like how many people are we talking about who would go to college would that pay for? out. But also to answer your question on Medicare for all, because you said this is an easier sell,

1:29:47 But University of Amherst, that is a socialist hellhole. It's a great area. There is no cut going to a middleman anymore. Right. But it's the private sector. Like the way it is now, it doesn't work like that. That's right. It doesn't work like that. Where's the funding source coming from? But here's the problem with that. It doesn't work like that in the private sector.

1:31:17 They wouldn't. Canada that will come to the United States for surgery and pay for it out of their pocket, Rand Paul went to Canada to get some sort of procedure, some sort of medical procedure So is it your- to doctors who say that this The part that people don't want to talk about, which is actually, I think, the way more important point, overburdened and all that stuff. I mean, again, the point I would make is that it's a funding

1:34:24 And you absolutely can craft a system like that. And even if you do that, you end up saving money No, you know what it was? A tissue. Okay. and plenty of patients have received bills that can be thousands or tens of thousands of dollars Yeah. So I mean, this is one of the things I talk about all the time on my show is that I really don't think people fully understand because you're

1:37:00 one of the richest countries in the world. Unpaid vacations. That sounds crazy to me. This country, the last time we had a government that really looked out for regular Americans, It's like all the impacts of it are already done. And then Biden was saying, I'm going to do $2,000. It just seems like if there was any time to pull this country together during the pandemic was the time.

1:39:01 and negotiate. That's the Belt and Road Initiative. In Africa, they build some infrastructure, and then they say, now we can take all your stuff, right? Then what's going to happen? Give you a little loan. There it is., maybe built some schools, then what's going That's what's wild. And they're doing the opposite. Whatever. It's all bad. You have dilapidated place after dilapidated.

1:41:26 Dilapidated? them healthcare. So, I mean, you have to fix that. If you don't fix that, it's going to continue to One way is to actually get the corruption out of the system and make it so the politicians a right to free speech you know these are all things that they can't just vote away. But on economic issues, on foreign policy But we can't have a system where up front we say you have to learn X, Y and Z before you vote, because if we do, you end up with poll tests and literacy tests and a lot of the former Jim Crow and segregation methods

1:44:10 and just stagnated. making their way from Wyoming they walk walk down into Colorado. They didn't think that that was possible, but it's happening. They're smart. Like this is like to make it legal for people to, whenever they want, go out and hunt wolves. everything else that would eat that stuff too. But that's how they did it. That was the only way

1:46:25 wolves come along and chase the mountain lion away, and then eat the cat's deer, It's interesting because I'm a fan of wolves. I think they're fucking awesome, but Yes. I don't think it was. Or maybe they don't understand it. That's it. i i would contend that if you give people a direct vote the majority of the time bar some and Republicans were distraught on the night Biden won in

1:49:59 Trump was winning and Biden wound up John Cena for the Chinese. He wrote this book, The Devil's Chessboard. I mean, they despise him, and we had him on Crystal Kylen, friends. assassination books. Was it Cuba? Was that when Trump was in office? How much real influence does a president actually have once they get into office? every four years, you know? And so they're calling a lot of the shots, particularly when it comes to

1:52:50 the CIA people would be like, no, I have a moral stand against overthrowing our own president, not that a bullet can't travel weirdly through people's bodies it definitely can the fact that scenario is more fucking bullets more gunshots and then also like the bethesda maryland autopsy You start going, Jesus Christ, these fucking people got away with it.

1:54:57 Yeah, he was in bed with the Nazis. Well, the fucking entire That's still not good. on their faces. and they would slice the fuck out of their faces. that did the dueling thing. and they're like this this is what they look like. Whoa. Yeah. Can you go down and get the guy in the lower bottom with the blue hat? He definitely did. Look at the guy in the upper, with the tie,

1:58:03 Superiority and human beings and of course Yeah. to get away. When Mitt Romney lost, you got to go away. Nobody wants to see you. Nobody wants to He did it for like less than a month. started talking about, we're cracking down on borderline content. So in other words, it's a giant hit. I went from, I lost, what was the number? Jackson Hinkle looked into this, another great YouTuber

2:01:20 Maybe I'll show some nipple. No, that's not when I was on the podcast. Dude, look what happened to you when you came on our podcast, though. So what happens is. When we talked to Andrew Yang on our podcast, Crystal More views than a CNN show as if it was some horrible thing That's right. And Joe, when you read those articles and you listen to those guys talk, Stelter's done this a number of times.

2:03:39 And they wonder why they get no views. with how this stuff operates in corporate media. And it's even more gross than I thought it was. At the last minute behind the scenes, the higher ups at the Hill changed the title on the video if people tune in to the show Rising for Crystal and Saga, Crystal basically had to beg the higher-ups, What did they have it on?

2:06:25 She gets the okay from the higher-ups over there. So in other words, they said, no, you can't put it up you're not allowed to put the new show on YouTube, even though we gave Did they have an exclusivity contract where they couldn't be on YouTube as a part of the contract? the worst part is um she so i launch it and tell my whole audience and we're so excited we get a

2:08:41 of what we could make. And they say, by the way, we're going to cut off your access to half or more of the fucking people who would want to watch your podcast. Like, it's part of the fun of podcasts that you can kind of help each other out. Are they a criminal? And that's the point that I'm making here is that that's what that old world is like. So the new media world, we're all friends. We're all talking

2:10:32 That's great for everybody. Everybody wanted Thursday at 8 o'clock. If they do it live, it goes up later. That's exactly my point, man. And look how they're doing it. And guess what? idea how pissed i was joe when they told me she can't even mention the existence of the other The new folks. Two times already? Emily, not the same Emily, a different Emily.

2:13:50 And I watched one segment that they did, Joe, Swear to God. Well, he needs to do his own show. Saga and Crystal are my friends. Listen, Ryan Grimm's a good guy. They were objective. No, I think Rising, as it currently exists, is going to fail. 100%. Okay. And Colin's not good? Well, Colin and whoever he was co-host. I'm trying to find it. I still can't

2:16:56 No. Crystal and Sager are super unique. more populist left and populist right. So the populism is the thing very easily. It's very difficult. Who could take your There's no way. None. I don't even know what I did. That's the fucking hilarious part. could be themselves. I want there to be, But anyway, whoever the two of them I want to help people. If someone's like, you know, like fucking psychics or something like that, you got to

2:19:44 No, I'm not going to let her, I'm not going to let her read my cards. Yeah. Do you know the way to San Jose? Look at that. this psychic changed the way I do my readings. Be the end of our relationship. end of our relationship? I mean, is this going to ultimately How the fuck did you ask the psychic something The song that you just sang, I've heard before, but I didn't

2:21:55 Because it really is. Do you remember? Oh, look. Oh, that guy was a real charlatan, right? what? Oh my god. and lying in a different way it's just instead were caught less than two months He used to have all these infomercials at night Look at that fuck. Oh, you know what I tried watching last night? Never saw that. And I watched the preview. I'm like, nope, not gonna do it.

2:25:02 then, but I'm a little bitch. where they're tearing down these old churches to make room for more mines. That was Netflix or Amazon Prime? It might have been that. That one sounds that one sad is it? Yeah, that's sad because the people that were in that cult The sunk cost fallacy is real. But I was getting murdered in the boxing gym. And you get leg dexterity from taekwondo that's really difficult to get from other things

2:28:11 Martial artists that just start out just doing MMA don't really develop but by itself as a standalone So they can't take you down, But the point being, to just get good at Taekwondo was not good. I was only 21, and I was still flexible. Not even close. He beat Howard Davis Jr., who was an Olympic gold medalist. He beat Vinny Pazienza. His name like the form of whatever it is that they're doing.

2:31:03 With Dana, it was really his dedication. I'm bullshitting myself. didn't want to be, you know, like there's a thing about combat sports is different than anything But he also has like Long reach and length Relax. pedophile or he's actually a drug addict or he's actually just a completely delusional psycho con So on my show, when the former head of the CDC came out and told CNN he thinks that COVID-19 likely came from the lab.

2:34:36 It was interesting. And he basically said, we have a virology lab where they study bat coronaviruses right there. front to stop the march towards this new Cold War with China, which we shouldn't have. And I mean, We have to be able to tell the truth, even if the truth makes you feel uncomfortable. No. The idea that we have to dismiss this theory out of hand because Trump said it.

2:36:48 shouldn't listen to celebrities because of that. He's telling the truth. And it's funny because millions of people is so How come it's okay to say the Brazil variant? How come it's okay to say the Brazil variant? Ready to call people racist for anything. Yeah. really need them. And then he went on to admit someone told him hey we have to say masks work but i already said they don't work and so then

2:39:30 What's getting in there? But is it? wasn't enough whereas like no masks right close talking to you you're getting the full blast well and it changes from store to store. It's been over here for months. It's just whatever the rules are, they are, I was reading into that. How do you do people out of state? It is in Hawaii. The thing about Hawaii is it is separate.

2:42:37 Yeah, it's nuts. winter? Well, it's because it's a vitamin D deficiency season. He's like, no one's outside. I have firsthand experience with what you're talking about because I've always said I'm Whoa. But then if you're in it too much, you could get skin cancer though, right? That's one of the reasons why black people and brown people were disproportionately affected by COVID in a lot of

2:45:03 You're a solar panel for vitamin D because there's no fucking sunlight so you got super pale Because some things you take in and it doesn't even absorb the right way. Some people say more. People should be supplementing with a host of different vitamins. what are you saying balanced diet you tell me how you're getting vitamin d from a balanced diet

2:47:14 statistics and information, all these different studies. And now we know about this. Now we know Take that vitamin D. There's some evidence that vitamin K accentuates vitamin D in its efficacy somehow or another. Drinking a shitload of water. I think it's a solution. Why are you eating that filler and all that? Listen, it's all beef. It's in D.C. I don't remember the

2:49:30 English and the food is off the hook oh my god you ate there right how good really good I yeah that gordita crunch is banging. Yeah, man. I had bacon this morning. See, my hierarchy is Five Guys number one. I was just going to say, it's five guys, In-N-Out, and then Whataburger. Yeah, you have to. I like that. I like mayo. I lather the mayonnaise on, and I fuck that thing up with some habanero sauce.

2:51:56 It's not bad, right? Can you do a spicy drink? and it had like spice in it, like capiscum. I know that sounds questionable as fuck, but when you take a sip, you're like, you nailed it. No. hot one- It's weird. In that Mexican joint that I was telling you about, they would have pickled That's amazing. Pretty much every day. Wow. No, not yet. Always a pleasure visiting.

2:55:11 Yeah, so it's free on every audio platform, every podcast platform. He did it remote. Yeah. He's so soft-spoken these days. He's so soft-spoken, and he's old as hell, but he's still got it. He's not bullshitting. Oh, my God. There was an argument that included Gore Vidal. So this Best of Enemies is about television debates that were going on during, I guess it was the 60s.

2:57:16 I don't know if there's another one. That's right. Pleasure, man.