Joe Rogan Experience #1673 — Colin Wright Transcript

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0:00 the joe rogan experience train by day joe rogan podcast by night all day because they good luck replicating all the stuff that the bees did to to make He makes wine. I was like, oh, this is tasty, like a weird sort of wine-ish kind of thing. How'd you make it? Oh. Yeah, so that's actually, that's the name of my sub stack. What are you saying? it's not just people who are confused about if men are stronger than women

4:16 So in every other animal, there's a difference between a male and a female but not with humans? whether it's organized around the production of sperm or ova. and then you can find out like where on the sex spectrum you might reside. which is from the whole critical theory field in academia. which correspond to, you know, one out of every 5,000 humans is born with genitalia that are

7:22 So that's sort of where the sex spectrum tends to lead the arguments to. There's sort of a population level way to look at it where you can say like, well, what is biological sex as a concept? So this is sort of the game that gets played along that. So basically when we're identifying Was there an initial explosion that led to the domino effect? You know, it's something I've been tracking for quite some time.

10:54 social justice oh yeah i see it now i mean for sure atheism was the first movement to be that makes it kind of like a religion. Yeah, it was a while ago. Let me see if I can outline it a bit here. And then someone went in the elevator how threatened that she was and it became a really big sort of fissure in And then that just made the whole atheist woman just get engulfed in flames immediately.

14:34 And now we've seen how the same type of activism has moved in and taken over, you know, to the word discrimination, in a way, where we've been told that discrimination is a terrible thing And so now when we talk about trans women in sports or something, you know, they think they're being discriminated against. They declare that they're trans. Anything. Anytime they see a binary, they need to deconstruct it and deconstruct it. And it's based on this epistemology of relativistic, years on many topics, too, on the whole sex and gender debate.

18:00 it's now resulting in, you know getting canceled yeah it's a strange time like it's this is a new thing to get to a position where talking about biological facts, Yeah. the same, you know, we already have male and female to refer to sex why do we need to also use man and woman maybe we can just let you know the those people have have sharing articles like there are five sexes, or there are seven

21:26 Let's sort of normalize this like I did, they get called names. the loudest voices, the most activists, they come out and they'll they'll just say this type of stuff. No, there's not seven sexes. No, sex isn't a, you know, a bimodal distribution where we're just varying degrees of maleness and femaleness. I think a lot of just the discourse has moved into a realm that I was no longer sort of comfortable with.

25:11 So it's a – So it's quite a big jump. be by having exceptional female athletes in there yeah a lot of the arguments for So people sort of have this everyday idea of sex differences. And there's like, you know, you know Laurel Hubbard this seems unfair and people will say that like well you know you might Right. even though I'm juiced. And just because I lost doesn't mean that I, it was, it was fair for me

29:49 And that's what female sports is meant to control for. and preparing my body for this, and now a biological male is going to take You know? I think there would be a few knuckleheads in there that are in denial. Yeah. You're going to get all the woke activists are going to vote for yes, but most of the people who are outside of that small percentage are not going to.

32:09 And, you know, they'll talk about what a woman is, is a gender identity. And if you can be competing in the Olympics but competing as a gender that's not represented by your chromosomes or a sex, testosterone to I think it's five nanomoles per liter right now for one for one full year before And before, a lot of the activists said, where are the studies showing that a trans woman

35:03 so over time before and typically amounts to approximately 5% after 12 months of treatment. This is the number one sports medicine journal in the world. they'll say that she's clearly biased But then, so there's a good retort to the bias thing It was an expedient way to make you shut up at that given time. So, I mean, people are mostly okay with the whole social accommodation of trans people.

38:47 Like, I was reading this thing about Demi Lovato. but the Demi Lovato thing was like now giving insight on how to address they. made an opinion based on something but a they is not even saying that right yeah but it's still And, you know, because I don't identify with this like hyper masculine, aggressive male type, You're trans? you can even go further no don, don't. Please don't.

42:41 like ultra macho are they all trans because if you're in any i mean there's a Most people. Just he would get bored and he was doing like morning radio or morning television and they made him do these ridiculous morning TV shows. Yeah, yeah, yeah. fuck you were talking about but 2021 they absolutely do it's not that long that this Okay, how do you live as a woman?

45:34 they're doing they will just deny that that's what they're doing but there's just no other on what sex is, that there's only two sexes, male and female. I'm like, yeah, you know what? lands on its edge and it turns out to be about one out of six thousand flips of these ambiguous categories anymore but the thing is people don't want you I'm scared. this is being shown in classrooms.

49:06 Now, it starts off with J.K. Rowling on this thing, femaleness and maleness not male or female just femaleness and maleness. Not male or female, just femaleness and maleness. Body shape, if you're just, you know, a very square woman, you're maybe less of a female. Voice gets deeper. different types of helmets. And so all the helmets and to the cyclist, you know, they have the more lightweight, streamlined, different types of helmets.

52:43 sex down into these multivariate phenomena where you have, you know, we can presumably plug in all these things like voice pitch and how much hair you have into some equation and then out pops, you know, where you are on the sex spectrum. They have a higher voice. that's just completely insane that and that's why I'm doing my best to not let it get past this final levy.

54:34 is the end of the previous slippery slope Yeah, exactly. Have you tried to figure out like what's the origin story and where does it go I mean it's coming from And no one wants to say anything about it. because there's this sort of this narrative that you see They'll point to you. So there's this double standard you have where the people who get canceled that are too small to make the news that you never hear about, well, they never show up as a blip.

58:11 I've got an essay in there of just sort of people's everyday lives Did you know about Othering, Jamie? And you're trying to be as either provocative or as aggressive as possible Especially if they have multiple accounts. But one of the things that I've been thinking of they would create a gigantic amount of fake accounts, use those fake accounts, you can erode democracy

1:01:26 Because if someone was going to engineer some sort of a deterioration of society, And once you get to a certain threshold, it's just sort of spirals down where, you know, the institution is 50 percent ideologically based. you wearing a Trump hat and you're not being ironic about it, even if you're joking about it. completely young earth creationist I would stay in touch with that guy yeah

1:03:39 presence in the university at least not the ones who are creationists and Maybe they called me stupid, whatever. It's like it's been infiltrated by a religion. But again, I'll ask you, where's this go i don't know like where how's it i am that's why i'm here Whether it's our monetary system, they want to break down all of the systems that are in place.

1:06:11 And is it like, does it make sense? And I think that was working. like someone who considers himself an atheist but I think a lot of the new of meaning making overarching thing to your life yeah And if you just get rid of that meaning, Yeah, we have a hyper focus on identity as well. And if there's anything I can attack their argument, you know, about what it means to be about sex and gender or something, it's not just an intellectual disagreement anymore.

1:09:49 No one says, oh, if you go just five miles down, there's a brick wall. that would outline what biological sex is. call lesbians you know female lesbians they'll call them bigots if they don't They're not attracted to your gender identity. do I mean there's nothing else to do And even when you do describe the context, how dumb your life really is and what you're like and what kind of an emotional mess you are and how

1:13:52 when he was criticizing religion before like if you're criticizing these core You know, he got his, what is it, the 2001 or something Humanist of the Year Award taken Yeah, did they come to his house with jackbooted thugs kick down the door the most anti-humanist thing ever like this could have been teaching moment It's 100% real. They think primates, the latest information is they think primates originated in Asia, made it over to Africa, evolved into humans.

1:16:51 There was a guy that was doing that on Twitter as a joke. like four years ago something like that i think it has an origin um in some some literature about all of that wokeness yeah i saw there i saw a whole thing about people uh furious that people those activists use themselves to describe themselves still i don't know if they do anymore Yeah. It was just so corny.

1:19:43 Yeah, it's just like an own goal big time. To the degree that it exists as something you can Google, and it's like a respectful disagreement and then you block them. One-way street. You're saying this and I'm like, God, I don't just like everybody else it's really hard for me to come up with like new and exciting ways to say the other it's just such a occasionally people talking about it in my daily life either. I mean, but do they does it come up in your daily life?

1:23:05 online. It's almost like a Darwinian process of how they've been able to like modify their Bogosian and pluck Rose did is like the Sokol squared it's like the nude new you know, everything's a social construct, everything's power dynamics, You know, he just pretended to be the dead cop. Sorry. whenever dudes do that some other people that I respect

1:26:15 Because he was one of the big guys over at Fox News, I thought he was a Mormon for a while. but apart from that, he does seem to be liberal in the classical broad sense And as a comedian, it becomes a real problem because then people start conflating. You're like, no, no, no. paying attention to politics. I mean, she might like peripherally watch MSNBC. But her thought

1:29:31 You want to be president to you fucking greedy bitches? going off to it and i'm clinging nailing tooth and claw just clinging to all of my progressive You might have heard that slogan all the time where, you know, they'll diminish the use, because I mean that the magazine I work for Quillette we just I consider them But if you talk to people on on the far right they

1:32:37 with them. You know, I mean. they'll just conflate those two in some sort of a weird way you know they'll they'll conflate gun And if you are open to all left-wing ideologies, all left-wing ideas, whether it's gay rights, civil rights, go across the board, women's rights, but you get to abortion, to abortion you go man i think that's a baby Is it when it exists out of the womb or when it can exist out of the womb?

1:35:25 with aborting that, what do you call it? there's I don't that's like a philosophical question right like the to even show evidence that would exonerate them. They shouldn't be on this planet. And meanwhile, it comes out 10 years later, 16 years later, that this bad cop did this. I'm undefeated in that courtroom. I'm going to get in there and I'm going to lay down he's trying to defend I want to beat him I'm undefeated in that courtroom I'm gonna get in there and I'm gonna lay down the smack on this motherfucker because like it becomes

1:39:06 I think the going number was in a paper in PNAS that said around 4%, but they said that was a fairly conservative estimate. things that are terrible and you go, Whoa, Hey, like that's not good either. It's not What are the chances the gang member is going to get out of prison and just he's gonna be a normal life doug stanhope joey diaz and honey honey the band we did a show at the wiltern in los angeles

1:41:09 it was, I'm thinking of the Herald camping. I remember they had businesses that people were paying to take care of your pets. The Bible guarantees it. How about a nice little sign that says the Bible guarantees it? atheist movement and the skeptics movement it's essentially there's a there's a real place for Not too much, but I know that it's... You know how stupid that is? And the way they say it is like if no one who understands why all these things work says it to them because like don't you think you'd be able to feel it if you're going 1,000 miles an hour?

1:44:23 You're going 500 miles an hour and you get up to go to the bathroom unless you hit turbulence. You don't feel like you're going. When you're on a plane. You're on a plane, yeah. You're going 500 miles an hour, and you get up to go to the bathroom. So I recommend going there. these fucking losers are ruining America with their stupid ideas and it's so easy

1:45:53 Have you done psychedelic drugs? Three? that like, I know the, the keys to the universe. And then of course, you know, you come down off Just sort of the way I know that what I'm seeing right now is Yeah. I mean, you're taking a chemical of some sort that we on to something more cosmic or anything if i wasn't so lazy i would try to get really good You can actually get to a full-blown DMT trip with like an hour or two, two hours of kundalini yoga when you practice it on a daily

1:49:46 compounds and then these psychedelic compounds are often equated to religion and religion sacraments and all these experience. Nope, this one, oh, he looks like he's having a good time on that one eat and you just realize like what it must have been the one of some of them went to cannibalism and you realize like imagine what it's like when you have just this unstoppable desire to like

1:52:39 room they don't want any room for like weirdness, but some things are weird, you know, themselves, like the Pentagon themselves, they're like going, look, we don't know what the fuck I'm sorry. No, not the recent ones. I bet he thinks he did. whatsoever, no heat signature. You've got two different fighter jets looking at this thing. i mean what do you what do you think it is drones from it's either someone's it's either some like

1:55:56 Like in the middle of the desert, some random crazy laboratory and maybe the great smoke It's where I kind of get lost. like why would they want to have bodies in them if we could do that on mars and do it remote Like, imagine just putting guns on those things. those just the ones that are like walking with the weird backpacks? No, they run and shoot at things.

1:58:39 and then shoots targets perfectly. No. It says during the first two weeks there's a string of low-flying objects Yeah. favorite quote was it I don't know is the Harry Reid quote or who made it That's horrifying, I think. He didn't, though. instrumentation on those things it's not as simple as you saw something you thought it was a balloon through a straw and looking at a mountainside and trying to pick out a very specific tree.

2:02:42 casual person that doesn't know anything about fighter jets, I mean to say they're from another planet is kind of crazy because they're right there. It's really enticing. Because we when it comes down to we only have Hundreds of light years? something that operates on gravity. That number? Yeah, what you're saying is correct but also the universe is infinite

2:05:53 Like just in this universe itself. number of varieties of ways we branch off from these conversations and disagree or agree I thought the consensus was that their universe is of a known size you know and mass and everything like that but I the three-dimensional or four plus time world and that's when i just can't wrap my head around And the thought is that inside that black hole

2:08:11 When you like really look down on it. Yeah. Yeah. or look in a microscope or whatever. And then above that, you have the blackness of space, and it's all right there. That's what made me want to be a scientist. been even more difficult to have those controversial thoughts back then and by I don't know. Mr. X. teaching my kids he got a lot of flack for being the popularizer too like there's a stigma that you're either like an actual scientist doing research or you're a popularizer you're not like

2:12:14 Getting angry at someone for popularizing something because of people like Carl Sagan and Steven Jay Gould and yeah I mean just forms so many times. Is that mostly what you concentrate on now is culture war stuff? Science entertainers are so important So that's what I stick to because that's kind of what I feel the most comfortable talking about. Yeah, it's all woke, anti-woke now.

2:15:04 but at least we can make the going to think I'm a horrible person. They might think I'm going to hell or something in the back living. I've seen kids that have been babysitting. spectrum and they'll just they'll wail like it's the worst thing that's ever happened to them because There's actually no such thing as gender. world like now they've we were wrong about that now they're they're in the

2:18:36 because it's just turning into just these I do get a lot of feedback from people saying that it was very helpful for them. based on something that I wrote. deer in the headlights at it because holy crap there's just so much ideology just this buttressing and they try to sort of do this uh this tactic where they just it really is, is you're trying to play a game. And part of the game is forced compliance. Part

2:21:31 Because when you say something to a person and say that this person is a homophobe or a this-a-phobe or a that-a-phobe, Yes. basically. And so how this manifests in sort of the whole sex and gender debate is you'll get Yeah, it's just, that's all it is. how much they want people to see them with the right opinions. And then now they're full, full blown sex spectrum denial people.

2:24:31 Cults exist because people can talk people into all sorts of shit that doesn't make any sense. Yeah, we're trying to bridge that gap. might just be, might just be screwed. Is it a function of having to go to a location though? And they're like, oh my God, who are you? basically a political litmus test, you don't even get passed along to the department. And so we're

2:27:43 that's that's pushing it back. out for an interview, but there's an agreement when you're being interviewed that people don't screened before they get the job and they have not only the equity diversity inclusion statements but Assistant professor and that he thinks the rest of the faculty would also probably be on board but but articles I've written in Quillette, my Twitter presence where I'm talking about this stuff.

2:30:18 time where I should be studying wasps to doing a diversity equity inclusion where they don't account for ideological diversity, viewpoint diversity, And then a few that are like rebels that are resisting the gravity of everybody around them and they figure out a way to be closet conservatives. So the people who get tenure are the people who are just either

2:32:51 which are always connected to religion, training their students to be Marxist. that i know of it's called ralston college and a guy named stephen blackwell he's It's one step to the alternative institutions. for a lot of the time they just didn't think it was an issue but i think for example laurel hubbard I think you can keep sliding. think is true but i can see the proponents of the accelerationist approach i'm becoming more

2:36:38 How are they trying to extract him from a hotel to beat the shit out of him? he well he certainly could have gotten the fuck beaten out of him. And yet they're super violent to get their point across. Crazy about-face. I do, yeah. so it'll either just eat itself In the whole article in here on the knitting wars on Instagram, I mean, it was just one-upmanship.

2:39:31 like this snowball effect of you. It's unsustainable. And, you know, they seem more reasonable in a lot of ways. But if someone like DeSantis was running, I would probably vote. But I still have the same beliefs and values that I've had when I was voting for Democrats. 20 Tales of Excommunication in the Digital Age. because there is just so much insanity every single week.

2:42:41 And so if I sold it, it would be a double whammy. All right.