Joe Rogan Experience #1684 — Abby Martin Transcript

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0:00 The Joe Rogan Experience. Hell yeah, man. fucking camp it must be an email campaign it must have been a campaign because it was like the same 100%. now has very much shifted don't you think like with this last when you see like that iron dome believe Israel's an apartheid state. no longer say that they're acting in self-defense over the last 20 years with the bombardments,

4:12 that you can have as a human being, like to leave and freely travel. And these people can't do that. because with the advent of social media, of Democratic Party voters and where they're at on the Israel-Palestine thing. And this year, and they actually direct these missiles towards sleeping families And also this was happening at night. like a bookstore that he's,

6:38 And their counter is that Hamas allow less and less people to leave, allow less and less water, bomb more and more factories, you know, all of these things that basically make life harder and the documentary that I actually came on last time and talked about. It's now up for free, 500 people were shot in the head. So do you think it's a part of their culture?

9:40 force, you know, there's no doubt that there's racism when it comes to the disproportionality of Yeah, they're trying to take over the land. And so the West Bank is here. Gaza is a totally separate where you cannot do anything. is. So when people say, we want the two- and I'm not Palestinian, you know, I advocate BDS, which we can talk about because I BDS is the boycott divestment sanctions movement.

13:25 wrap your mind around the reality of it until you're there and you have to go through these 99.9% conviction rate? by the state to do whatever the fuck they want. And they can walk around with guns, This fucking guy who's just an American dude literally squatting in some Palestinians house. Yes, but if I go, you don't go back. This neighborhood is home to 3,000 Palestinians,

16:06 I think he did say that. Basically, they're just expelling hundreds of Palestinians from their homes in Like, how is this, how are they trying to get these families to leave their houses? 70% of Jerusalem needs to be Israeli Jews. So what happens when you have 31% who are Palestinian of a gun to your head. So they come with a gun and they say, this is my house now. Yes.

19:48 Yes. And so all these people that live in these homes, they have to abandon these homes because if it's our territory, you can't live here. give up their homes, but they have to pay for the legal expenses of the people that are stealing They're not giving you another option. And then they get demolished. Right. And they're made homeless. You had Al-Aqsa Mosque, which is the third holiest site in Islam, on fire and thousands of Jewish Israeli settlers chanting death to Arabs and burn their memory, looking at this ancient,

23:43 Why did they attack? were they trying to find the but they were firing smoke bombs and grenades, that sort of forced this issue to be recognized would you find enough people all at once saying kill all the black people right exterminate them born and bred, hating Palestinians, other rising Palestinians. You have forced, you know, You know, I mean, that's the problem.

27:54 simple answer is yes, there are plenty of people there who disagree with the occupation, who maybe propagandist and I was banned for life. And so I can't even go there. And so I had to work through this blockade and get files every couple weeks I mean, it's very extreme. of where American society was at. But the liberals, you know, they want to sanitize this reality from

30:38 this is, there's no clear, there's no like clear moral high ground for these people. how do you resolve the crisis in the Middle East? and said she didn't know enough to. I would condition, and first of all, this is just my political face talking. They were politically active. getting attacked. You even saw like a six-year-old boy getting arrested by the Israeli military.

33:44 Really? Yes. 30 states in the boycott of Israel. Really? such a contract. I was supposed to speak at Georgia Southern University. And I was given a And you won? It's amazing that that's written into law. legislatures to pass these laws. It is like the most direct admission of foreign interference Because if someone said something like if like here's an example, if there was new laws on the

36:16 Remember the blowback just for John Cena? So he disconnected the phone and then came back, and when he came back, And we sort of accept it with some countries, you can't talk badly about, you can't advocate for whatever you're advocating for. That's how it works. they've faced legal challenges and they've all been ruled unconstitutional because they are.

39:15 it's a huge coup for Israel. I mean, you should see the kind of shit that they've done. They tried Luckily, that case was thrown out. But it just shows you she's an American is in America. Wow. And you can never advocate. You can't advocate for boycott. America, neighboring Venezuela. We pour tens of millions of dollars to militarize them and do all

42:29 who was discussing what he knows of the world's plan. downstairs just to say hello to some of the people on the joint staff who used to work for me. He said, I guess they don't know what else to do. He said, he reached over on his desk, he picked up a piece of paper, and he said, They don't give a shit. because we need them. We need them to protect our assets over there. And so we empower them in a

46:43 to that gives them this actually no longer controversial anymore. I mean, you just have to look at what they're doing today. And even Holocaust survivors have said that these are I'm done. Well, you were working for Russia Today. And I think the way I was describing get the fuck out of here. You, you knew your time there was, it was over. for me to do my job. And, you know, I wasn't stepped on in terms of my editorial freedom,

50:26 100%. And people have this kind of false perception that they think, and this is like on at all they are completely untouched by management is Lee camp still at RT he is yeah Look at someone like Marco Rubio when the Parkland kids were talking to him. said 15 years ago that I stand by today. We don't know the truth about 9-11. But, you know, it's unbelievable

53:19 first person that was supposed to be administering the commission, a decorated war criminal, Yeah. I mean, according to the official story. What is this? The title of the article I read was that 12 of the 15 people that conspired to kidnap 12 out of 15. No. the case, if that's really true They radicalized him, gave him a cell phone, gave him this fake bomb, and then he presses

56:56 Could you imagine if you're one of the three dopes that's not in the FBI? Like, oh, yeah, you're funny, bro. Because we know that. But if you were trying to do that. and then all of a sudden now you have a violent protest. So then you can send the police in and start arresting it's existed throughout history nero burned rome hitler burned reichstag i mean they did this to

59:32 George Soros. Yeah. Yeah. Of course. starting that and it's still going on and it's absolutely horrifying but explain why what happened We could just have a fucking bolt clubbed into the back of your head. But no, I mean, Yemen, I'll just explain how it started. a nuclear weapons program forever, and they were trying to steal US secrets and hire spies

1:03:19 Look at Gareth Porter's reporting. Iran wants to just follow the rules, man. I would imagine they would want nuclear weapons. They didn't want their influence waning in the region. It is disgusting because people kind of fly under the cover like, You know, I mean, why would we look at look at Afghanistan, for Christ's sake, going to take over. I was reading this story about Afghan interpreters and people that have

1:08:01 and it's a free, and this is why, this is how you start conflict right you make sure that things are happening so that you can justify military build-up you can justify all Yet we are waging a genocidal campaign in Yemen to bomb the Houthis. Yeah, right. Even environmentalists, and we're making a new documentary like explain all right so um so our trailer is up i don't know if you let's watch videos yeah

1:10:54 How does the ocean catch on fire? Terrifying signs of things to come. One single organization, one single enemy, the Earth would still be headed towards total disaster an incredible investigative journalist would still cause enough carbon emissions Like, for example, a B-52 bomber produces as much carbon emissions as one car driving for seven years.

1:14:22 overseas, he was telling me about these burn pits. Yeah. you were to pull out a hundred people from the streets, how many people would say the U.S. military is one of the largest contributors of not only climate change, but just pollution? going to find this on- The 55th ranked if it was a country. Well, we're going to outline... The climate change research is very... It's hard to elucidate

1:17:37 elephant in the room, Joe. And people don't want to address this because they want access. A lot Somewhere, Coldwater Creek, Missouri, nuclear dumping from nuclear waste. I mean, this is radioactive compounds that have the shelf life of billions of years. It's permanent pollution, in Navajo land, all of these things that have benefited the U.S. military. And they've just,

1:20:09 What does it do to the environment? because apparently when they use them as rounds, it just goes right through tanks. Yeah, that's the scariest thing about all this shit And then if they get wounded or if something happens, It's horrific. It's called a forever chemical because it never actually goes away. It's going to be an error. horrific the statistics are, but it's bad, you know, and it's not just human health. Like I said, I mean, this is biodiversity.

1:23:18 lunacy it's madness and it's lunacy and i get a lot lot of people are patriotic and I get that a lot of, you know, we fetishize the military. We worship the military. We're born and bred to think that this is necessary to have a global empire. But I want to make people shift their consciousness and say it doesn't have to be this way. about the people that are pro-military in particular, is they're worried about some nefarious government,

1:24:21 totally counterintuitive. But what China does is very different than we do, right? The way they treat their citizens is very differently. The way they like this is, I mean, I'm not making excuses for anybody, Like if the Communist Party somehow or another gets a foothold in America and conquers it. We got this. Way to accept this mass murdering earth-destroying machine isn't it I mean to basically put this hypothetical scenario

1:27:01 They're offering countermeasures to development in Africa and stuff like that. And you can argue about the benefits of that. But it's definitely not the same as what the U.S. is, you know, putting the barrel of a gun to someone's head and saying, do this or you're fucked and will sanction you to death, literally to death. taken upon themselves to censor sanitize our reality curate what we what they want us to see

1:28:50 It's shocking when you compare the difference, like with certain controversial subjects, Look, we're living in a panopticon here. there's nothing in there isn't that a scary yeah it is you know but yeah i can't talk too Get ready for this because Sagar sent me this. It was on the cover of Newsweek. Meanwhile, they are saying QAnon should not exist on the internet.

1:31:46 Fire hydrant? You cannot keep people from discussing things. Let's play this and start it from the beginning. reputational damage we may incur. And so insofar as our environment, you know, the environment we Absolutist. intentions. And so anything that happens as a result of those good intentions, well, it's not Yes. collaborators, it's also European nations, it's NATO, it's all of these junior partners that also act to secure these interests and keep, you know, these countries poor and extracting all their

1:36:16 With other countries? That China is not thinking just about China, that they would go, okay, we'll cooperate. triggers all these other countries that build up there he probably didn't even know what he was We have to look at the context of how this all happened. more by our politicians when you talk about the difference between pre-pandemic and post-pandemic

1:38:46 And it talks about Detroit and it shows what Detroit used to be like because Tommy Hearns This is like during the 1950s and 1960s. And then 20 years later, after the government has changed, or after these organizations, rather, after these corporations have decided to move their manufacturing overseas, source parts overseas, do a lot of the work because they save money this way.

1:40:25 me too, I've got one, here it is. That's how crazy it is. Could you imagine? digging it out of the ground with a stick and that You never saw the video? It's scooping up this plastic and converting it into actual goods and recycling it and using it. And he'll post good shit on his Instagram. the Great Pacific Garbage Patch and much of it What breaks down, it breaks down.

1:43:29 I don't know if I can watch this shit. they found out that he had this straw For whatever. Because we still have plastic caps for water bottles. why are we even the individualizing the problem is so depressing because it takes away from the Yeah, you're doing your part. that we're reheating in microwaves, or leaching from plastic that gets in our water bottles,

1:46:06 It's one of the most disturbing podcasts I ever did. Environmental epidemiologist. to female size. Penises are shrinking. Test are shrinking testicles are shrinking sperm count is shrinking and that's happening to human beings, like a real direct correlation between increased miscarriages, Like helping facilitate a lot of the people who are coming out as, you know.

1:49:25 sexuality that's all great you can look at things but to me that's this is a Classic gray. That's what human beings are doing. We will reproduce through genetic engineering only we will reproduce through some sort of yet-to-be-invented process that's far superior. just everyone's fighting for the position on the top of the hill if we Well and soon with elon musk's invention withuralink, it's going to be in your fucking head. How long before we are some sort of a symbiotic thing where we're no longer a biological entity? We're a biological entity that interfaces constantly and inextricably with technology. Inextricably, rather, with technology. You can't take the two apart from each other. We are technology. The same way a person who lives in Alaska in the winter has to have clothes.

1:53:18 is a part of our biology? And maybe that would be the only way we would be able to leave this reproduction, every aspect of nature. And then when you become that vehicle of reproduction and occupies so much of everything else and we have technology, like you're saying. And it just kind of dawns on you because our mind occupies so much of everything else.

1:55:20 Biological caterpillar that gives birth to the electronic butterfly And we don't even know what we're doing. It'd be, you'd be rude to not do that, right? the way elon described it to me and again i'm a monkey so i'm gonna do a shit job of don't need any muscles anymore and they don't need sex organs anymore cause no one's having sex. You know what I'm saying? Like, there's like a complete, if you think of someone who's just locked in a cubicle doing programming all day,

1:58:15 the fucking aliens you have no muscles now and you have a giant ass head That's really creepy, man. Maybe we fucked everything up and we need fresh genetic code. fucked up dog but like maybe that's what happens if they don't source genetic material i mean or mass from the phenomenon yes but also i first heard about it on your show and then yeah watching

2:01:01 and it's easy to just kind of like look at one debunking video and you're like, yeah, yeah, yeah. Honestly, these stories, these stories, I, for people who didn't you know who didn't hear your show of the guy The Zimbabwe one is interesting, but there is a problem with it. they were through hypnotic talk to them john mack talked like the day after it happened so i don't

2:04:29 Almost like to tell you, hey, bitch, I know where you're going. military craft, wow, holy shit, have they been working. it now why are like former CIA directors like Brennan Woolsey even Obama has like made the like And I don't know what that looks like when you apply it. is bone chilling because I believe, especially when 62 people see something or people, 200 people

2:07:32 Is it something that we can explain by, you know, the realm of quantum physics that we actually don't understand? and people like Marco Rubio with that PBS special that came out This is no longer some fringe, kooky conspiracy theory. officials in terms of learning or wanting to find out what UFOs are. It's about, going back to what that UFOs are something that are real and they're concerning. They're potentially a threat to

2:10:49 That we're admitting that we are being visited. many of these things. And if it's oh, there's so many people seeing it. Shit, this has been going on for 70 years. Well, Christopher Mellon, who used to work for the State Department, told me that they have way more shit, way more footage. It's people are releasing these videos and photographs. That's a different kind of leak.

2:13:45 pyramid shaped crafts that they were a transmedium vehicle And they're like, fuck. They have access. About the go fast video. and get a very detailed, high-resolution video of that. from however many miles in the sky these satellites are, can get such a high resolution video that you can clearly see a license plate from space and read it for the show i mean i do think that art imitates reality in a lot of ways and when it goes back to

2:17:53 When you see the New York Times has an article talking about these unexplained vehicles and taking them seriously. one of the questions and he was like yeah yeah like i saw a ufo and it's like dude yeah jimmy Yeah, right. The electromagnetic. Do they know what that is? They're claiming this is another bizarre thing is like like something that seemed science fiction a decade ago is now being told that it's real like

2:20:18 Yeah. They wanted to pursue a communist state and the CIA never forgave them. And so there's been Like you cannot do this. Now lift the goddamn embargo and then let's figure out what's going on. Castro. Some people didn't like the communist government. But they said, look, please tell And you really see how the media is controlled. Right. Bombing Cuba, an option that needs to be discussed, says Miami mayor.

2:25:40 It was lifted for a while. Trump put it back. and covid has completely devastated the economy even more so and the sanctions that trump put on place have completely debilitated beyond No. And I looked through the death records. I was walking with opposition protesters. I saw what Who owns the giant corporate conglomerates? I lived in D.C. for a couple of years.

2:28:24 necessitates this kind of subjugation around the world. You're a capitalist. You're a Zionist. I mean, that's the kind of disproportionality that we're talking about. work for governments or corporations. 80% of the news that's delivered through this filter They believe, they believe. are always couching your opinions in establishment entities, authority figures and think tanks.

2:31:36 Because we never hear their perspectives, Joe. It's one-sided and it's curated and carefully get an understanding. That's not ever how we're going to figure out where our similarities lie, There's always a common enemy, Joe. That's a necessity to manufacture consent, And I need to speak out, use my platform, use my voice. My education was sanitized for me.

2:34:22 The CIA, the Latina. They have nothing to do with diversity. agents have been able to rebrand themselves That has to start with conversations that are uncomfortable, right? and everyone knows someone in the military. My partner, Mike Prisner, who I do the Empire Files with, he was So it starts with conversations, Joe. I would recommend people get off Twitter and get in the

2:38:37 don't think that that's a thing anymore we don't they get in debt I mean it's That's the only form of debt that stays. They come knocking on your door. It's actually kind of cool to think of what our children will do. of that is going to apply to them. other countries are up to no good. They have nefarious intentions. It's us versus them. That's it?

2:41:45 Or of the government in China. they're doing with the interest of the Communist Party. But even if you were to take that narrative And I don't think that it has to be that way. It does not. Thanks, Joe. Join the journey there. Psychedelic art. Bye.