Joe Rogan Experience #1699 — Meghan Murphy Transcript

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0:00 The Joe Rogan Experience. Yeah, yeah, yeah. What is your impression Vidja, yes. Let's tell people the story of what happened.ya, is that how you say it? Vidya. Vidya, yes. And nobody likes it except for me. like reserved You like it hard, lady. right that's what that moonshine was we used to drink I think oh it is it's We all cheers. Yeah. It's rough.

2:59 So I live in Sayulita because I ran away from China. Like, I do like, like, scotch and whiskey and whatever. Because it's like you're in this new place I can't. I mean, I'm not sure how far back you want me to start, but... I first started talking about it back in like 2016, 2017, because the liberal government was pushing through Bill C-16, which was our gender identity legislation.

5:30 Because some folks aren't hip to the argument. if rather some of your speech violates the laws that they put in place, you can literally be arrested. And it would mean that, you know, yeah i was just worried about the implications uh i testified at the senate jordan peterson and I wasn't saying that to try to be rude. So now yesterday he was a man.

8:21 But you can decide to go back and forth throughout the day. It's just something you say. Just a question. hateful conduct, but they don't say, oh, it's this specific rule. Like you're not allowed to but men aren't women. from twitter has communicated with me no one said what i did wrong so i'm just guessing can i tell Which is fucking bananas. Is that what we're doing?

12:06 I think there are people that have gender dysphoria. like you literally believe you're a male. You actually believe you're a woman. But I'm not going to lie to comfort you or whomever else. It's weird because like this it's very So they locked me down for those two things, right? And then they would realize that he was a man. a woman and you just have to accept it. He has a penis, he has balls, he obviously looks like a man.

16:10 I was banned on Friday night. Yeah. Misgendering a man who's a predator It's just so weird threats like you should die you get the wall you should go to the gula like people show you know Believe it or not. Trans-exc exclusionary radical I mean, technically, the word radical is meant in this context to get at the root. So the difference radical feminists would say the difference between radical feminism and like liberal feminism would be that they want to upend the whole system of patriarchy rather than just changing some of the surface things like legislation and things like that.

19:23 You just think that because you know that you could beat them up. Like, they've shown up at my events before to protest. Yeah, it's there's a weird like misfits revenge aspect to what they're doing. and that they're all willing to participate in this anarchy of fascism they're they're literally trying to enforce their ideals upon other people. what you're doing is literally bigotry.

22:02 and they've subscribed to a predetermined set of opinions. i identified when i was a teenager i think i identified as like a marxist um and then as a My parents were super progressive. Like I just thought that anybody Which is stupid. They just want them to repeat the mantras like they're in a cult. find that have opposing viewpoints and the way they do it it's really nasty it's really nasty and really shitty and it's not compassionate at all it's not in

25:58 a horophobe i never heard of that one before yeah this has been going on for a while you're a I think it's obviously incredibly misogynistic. brothel owners, traffickers, and decriminalizes the women. this and he was saying that he knows people in new york specifically where girls have men that they have sex with for money. and these women will do it with several different guys,

28:44 We're painting this with rose colored glasses, right? Right. And I'm not saying that... We have feelings. be married, like you have to be But I think that there are kind of mental and emotional repercussions from engaging in those kinds of relationships that people pretend don't that I couldn't answer and I wasn't being challenged enough. So I appreciate you challenging

32:44 it's supposed to put the brakes on any argument. Like, things can get real dicey. Or did they get there because there are certain aspects of society that are a meritocracy? What are they called? house and be a loser then you can go do that But you don't deserve to have the same amount of money or prestige or power or whatever it is as somebody else.

35:26 So I'm getting sort of like meta here a bit. But, you know, feminism can be very like pro collective and advocates, you know, like collective decision making and things like that, which is crazy because if you're working in a collective and some women are, you know, 50 or 60 years old, they've been doing this work for a really long time if you're 50 or 60 years old you probably know in general a lot more about life and your work than a 20 year old does and yet within a collective everybody has an equal say so you

36:09 Well, specifically of those ideals that they would like you to subscribe to very rigidly older. People that used to be Marxists real estate portfolio. Like, don't advocate this thing that is directly opposed to the life that you're living. And I'm like, yeah, I want to make more money. And who gets to decide that? of an equality of outcome because there's no way that it's ever going to work.

39:36 Just out of the good of your heart. Like most people aren't going to do that. comfortable all the time, and everything should just be given to you. I mean, all these, what is You deserve nothing. I mean, I'm still at the bar, but I'm productive aside from just being at the bar. Yeah. Yeah. Not every day. Like, I feel non-binary. You know, I'm obviously not a very passive person.

43:20 tournament there. So they just did the So in Sayulita, So you went there as a tourist because you were kind of stuck in Canada. Go to Jordan Peterson's Instagram or his Twitter page. It is exactly the example of the kinds of things during COVID financially? Yeah. psycho and never ending and like destroyed, you know, so many many businesses so many small businesses um we've

47:14 identity shit, right? And you also, it's basically, it's practically illegal to say anything critical People really, really trust the government. So all these ongoing restrictions that were happening during COVID, they people genuinely believe that the government has their best interests in mind. He said the only protests that are acceptable was Black Lives Matter protests.

49:20 And this is the same guy that just made a vaccine passport. back. I don't know what to do. I really am. I'm stuck in this situation. If someone has a, what's what's what's happening here well here's my main problem with it there's a lot of people Well, not only that, it's not really a vaccine in the traditional sense. A vaccine is where they take it a thing that it's not it's not exactly what you're saying it is and you're mandating people take it and there's no repercussions if they have any side effects there's nothing they can do about

52:47 Like, why do young, healthy people need a vaccine? is that if you're vaccinated, studies. I think there's real, there's some interesting evidence that shows that prophylactically No, if you take ivermectin. whereas in Mexico you can buy it over the counter at a pharmacy for real cheap. Please take vitamins. please eat healthy foods, Yes. you've succeeded like try to learn and and become better at like a new skill yeah um try people don't

56:58 A lot of people. In fact, there was a study that showed that physical exercise was as effective, What do you call this? I take a thimble full. And I'm not drunk all the time. I spent a very long time not exercising at all. which I really enjoyed a lot. But, you know, like it makes me feel like if I ever feel any kind of like anxiety or if I'm feeling sad about like it makes me feel so much better.

59:50 Like, I want to stay in bed. things that i don't want to do like and they're beneficial it's so it's just so good for like how So it's frustrating. depression but I've never not exercised so I've been very fortunate that since I was a teenager And I really wish. So I'd be like running or playing basketball or something And I think it created, it made my knee pretty sensitive.

1:02:57 but there's a guy who's got a website called, sorry weight training helped a lot that strengthens the knee when you put the knee in positions where it's generally thought of as being more unstable, knee is over your toes and these and his idea is to strengthen the knee in all of these ranges of motion where you traditionally would be weak and make your knees and all the surrounding muscles strong so that you can move in any direction and never have a problem with that sort of instability.

1:04:53 But in my brain for a very long time, I've been like, I can't run. Really? Maybe you should do one of those. In most cases, the kneecap shifts too far toward the outside of the leg. Ben Patrick. I really hope that She's doing it a little lighter with the. build up to it slowly and he has like a whole system where you start out very slowly and Okay.

1:07:22 lines. I'm almost done. Please do. If that's what she wants or he wants, yeah. Okay, Debbie. And I feel also that it's unnecessary because I feel like it like so I feel like it plays into this idea that it's offensive to say what I say, for example. I feel like it sells out people who don't use correct pronouns. about this. They're like, who cares? You got kicked got kicked off of Twitter no big deal and it is a big deal for me because I'm independent

1:11:21 sometimes so they don't understand why i'm doing it because they're like, why don't you just be nice? to the point where it's like doctrine, you know? Like where there's no getting around it. Like this is that people they want to reinforce it to the point where it's like doctrine you know like Like, I was looking at this one person. Full beard, like terrorist beard.

1:12:45 want to be defined as a woman because you want to be special because you want special treatment. There's crazy people. They don't want to be accused of dead naming her. Like Charlotte Clymer. Oh, thank you. say and why I say them. he's a guy like it's, you know, these people, you know, like that weightlifter Laurel Hubbard, you know, you know you're a man.

1:16:25 Really? Did you ever see when she's on the podium and those other two biological females are beside her, Oh, you didn't? And she just doesn't say anything. Historic moment. processes in a male to convert a male to a female or a female to convert a female to a male. How the fuck are you going to do it? Because then, like, you will be, like, one day I'll see you and I'm like, when did you become a dude?

1:19:23 No, but you enjoy being a tom no i've never had an ex-boyfriend named tom i have The solution of getting a ton of really like awful, painful, these are still experimental surgeries. i don't like that's not how nature works like that's that's not a healthy thing for humanity And then I'm like, oh, like I'm still not what I wanted. about caitlin jenner is that um he just felt like in the shadow all the time like i don't know if

1:23:33 Yeah. from the beginning like two years ago. Like, I didn't watch when it was on. I actually, I think I watched the whole thing from the beginning like two years ago. He seemed like the only one that's accomplished on the entire i mean Maybe this is like because you're a man and I'm a woman. Oh, my goodness. Is that what you heard? And that's what autogynephilia is.

1:26:08 And of course, he's been like canceled many times over But stop trying to lie and say, like, I'm a woman on the inside. Like if a woman chooses to be a man. He's a great guy. I go, yeah. I was going to get to that. And or they're predators. Well, you could wish you were a woman and want to be a woman. So they want to be in the changing room with all the other women.

1:30:44 So I'm like either holding a hand and walking with them Yeah. it's weird you know louis ck had a bit about taking his daughter to the bathroom and that Like, it's so, the sports thing has been, I think, probably, like, the best in terms of opening up wrong like the sports thing is the only reason why i got involved in this discussion at all and Good luck, bro.

1:33:31 There's an advantage of years and years and years of having like huge levels of testosterone pumping through your system in terms of like a biological female. as like a normal physiological female. Good luck. So they made her compete against girls while she was taking testosterone. You can like talk to a scientist. yeah and that a man shouldn't be in a women's prison like it's like why like you know

1:37:06 Guy who has sexually assaulted women, who's doing activism around this. women, these women who are really vulnerable. I mean, think about the kind of women who are in It's disgusting. I mean, the liberal government, like, they're the worst. And I mean, he- This she-covery and she-session, like- That's our leftist party. That's like our labor party basically in Canada, my entire life. Like

1:40:11 the erosion of civil rights is the most disturbing aspects of it because they're willing to accept through COVID and have natural immunity, and it's just as robust, if not better. the politicians like it's the regular citizens like it's the public i mean the problem is not why are you asking me like personal health questions? But also, like, why are you intruding into my personal life? Like, why are you asking me like

1:42:35 Um, either if it was over text, they would start like bombarding me with links. did you do it too you should do it yeah we all did it you should do it right right this is this neighbor like they're the problem they're the danger they're the enemy it's fucking creepy I don't like inhaling other people's smoke, but whatever. an issue jamie can't even smell his without throwing up look at him over there okay well

1:45:11 I really don't like vodka. I'm good. I'm not. Yeah. Sugar. That's why. So, like, say if you're drinking and you get boozed up that night, your body literally starts craving that alcohol. And that part of the hangover is you and they're both processed through the liver these commonalities mean that when combined counterparts, but About my theory. my favorite one has a very specific ratio of glucose to sodium and all the different electrolytes

1:48:55 I would like to see an actual study, not some wacky My Gut Health. if you had electrolytes afterwards, after you drink. my theory about ricea being healthy for me was not. Because it tastes like shit. Okay. I mean, you can't drink that kind of stuff really fast either, or I can anyway. Okay, a little bit left. Oh, really? Cheers. fine it's it's fine it's fine so are you doing your podcast and everything out of mexico

1:52:02 So it's a bit sketchier, but I have been able to manage to do it, Yeah. Yeah. I still don't want to go back and I hate it because I think the politics are so scary and And just being scared. who just feel like they have no control over the situation don't go anywhere. Yeah. It's, it's very foreshadowing, right? Yeah, absolutely. And even like that idea of,

1:55:16 issues that we're facing that's one of the first things you do this weird just fucking wave to the woke and he promised to do that and he yeah but he doesn't I actually am an American citizen, Oh, nice. I could like have clean clothes um but like people really freaked out at me over that. And I was just like, why would you vote for somebody and exaggerating any flaws that he may have had ad nauseum, any slurs in his speech,

1:58:33 This man is mentally impaired. going on right now because of Afghanistan. And what's interesting is Michael Malice actually But Biden, in his most latest interview, looks orange. All of a sudden. He used to look pointed out. Malice was like I think We support BLM. Oh, what a nice tan. That was four days ago, five days ago. I saw that on Instagram four days ago

2:01:38 No, of course not. They lie and they pretend they do. like these things agree yeah and a perfect representative of the United States in Exactly. Like I said, you know, like I've sort of been, like, moving away from feminism. like um i mean i i don't believe but you just listed off the three things that you i don't Men have all this power. Like this lack

2:05:47 like misogynist or hate women. And that's what these women would say. Any man who consumes another and it doesn't fucking help like palmer and i was like well i mean what i'm like a heterosexual woman so is there something that Like, I've been using it a lot. I got it. You have to have conversations with people. would say too bad fuck them like go masturbate in your corner right like no but really like it's

2:10:26 I thought you were going to say, like, perverted. who was who's dating one guy and then she broke up with this guy and then dated a guy whether it's a gorilla or a male or a I mean, I've had that experience, yeah, Like, we're not this, like, you know, it's not that you want me. sorry like that kind of stuff like there's so many or your ex-girlfriend rather there's so many

2:14:09 like that's a real big they think about what they want especially when people are young right when they're learning about women. And it's totally normalized. there's nobody saying like oh maybe this might not Yeah, totally. Like I read this study and it was kind of a fucked up study because it was like a study about what do you want to study? to that fucking scientist and make sure they're on the up and up.

2:16:34 Go find the most deranged shit that you can find. They've been through a lot of things in their life, and then they have two shots of this wacky shit that you like. And they're like, go ahead, put it in my ass. like i feel really bad for girls who are growing up in this world around the time we started today But it's all getting encompassed in this blanket statement

2:18:14 Yes, she did mention that. she obviously lost access someone who identifies with Okay, great. I mean, maybe. this HBO documentary on QAnon oh okay I watched that one yeah yeah I'm four And she also – like, she was doing good in that community. Like all human beings. Like, I mean, the history of the world shows otherwise. colin would be more realistic is it mark new name it's like some like african priest name

2:22:15 her name. What is her name? No big deal. Look at my orange skin. It's a West African name that means gift of God. genuine if you're suffering because you you hate body, you feel so uncomfortable in your skin, of course I feel bad for you. uh access to like funding or jobs or whatever because know, white people were posing as black and getting funding

2:24:45 feedback on your ideas that you do with Twitter, which I think is in some ways positive, like I mean, I had a lot of support on Twitter, to be honest, part of the problem yes yeah like I think that these questions that i was asking were legitimate and Just block them. in that way like I'm not super upset by what people say to me yeah yes I'm not a super, I'm not sensitive in that way. Like I'm not super upset by what people say to me.

2:27:19 Like it actually connected me with a whole bunch of people that I never would have connected with otherwise. free speech but I never really bothered standing up for free speech I never thought about it much multi-billion member thing. We're talking about what essentially And the people that, well, their side is supported There's way too many people, and the impact that it has is so huge.

2:30:30 Like hilarious. to participate in public conversations and to do your job if you're like a media producer or a And then I got kicked off and I was like, oh, shit. and he was like, well, you must have seen it coming. He's an actual,ic surgeon, I believe. He's some sort of physician. He's an actual medical doctor. They banned him. Like, what do you think?

2:33:36 Like, you know, they essentially implied that I had been harassing people. that's it he's he's aggressive in his evangelism for it. from being essentially held accountable Okay. But also sort of I felt like there was some kind of like zeitgeist thing as being this like hostile uh disagreeable uh unreasonable person who's harassing people and Like what do you say – like what are you allowed to say and why are you not allowed to say that?

2:37:52 it not when i'm misrepresented not when other people are like you you were talking about these borders of what's allowed and what's not allowed you stepped outside that border by saying a woman American whiskey. Okay, well, great. Okay, so, Anybody who advocates gender identity ideology, right? I don't find it embarrassing. over and over and over again.

2:41:08 me and changed my perspective on things. Don't be married to them. things are how you lead to a literal inability to debate, discuss, and examine things. Because that and think that what strength is, is to just stick doggedly to the thing that you've always said. statements on twitter and i was kind of black and white in my thinking Yeah, but you platform them.

2:44:33 guy. And I like talking to him. I really like him too. And he's super smart. Like, like, yeah, Or a simp. So be it. Are you a female simp? A whorephobe. A whorephobe. One more time, Jamie. Thanks, Carrie. What's your Instagram? Come on, Twitter. They're like, nah. together jack okay i think it says i think it's they're they're honestly i think they're managing

2:46:52 He promotes steak. Let's do it again.