Joe Rogan Experience #170 — Michael Ruppert Transcript
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0:00 We're gonna get to the bottom of some shit. When I first became aware of you was that speech that you gave. about fighting somebody was was given to me by a chief warrant officer for from army from army That seems so crazy that you're the first guy to come out with that. Barry Seale. Barry Seale, that's the guy. He's the guy who died the dude that got caught, or that died. Barry Seale.
2:25 they killed these two kids and then they said it was suicide that was the train track yeah the train I had perfect rating reports and all this stuff. It's just too much money? is that you can move it with profits-to-earning ratios off books in a crooked economic paradigm. How did you know? My father was a decorated Air Force hero, a veteran. So anyway, so I was marked.
5:51 I wasn't going to go along with drugs when, is that we live in a world that's full of sellouts. Like, not every LAPD cop knows this happens. and you step up and step out and say that you a point at one point where you were you were worried about your own life like you left the You have to learn how to live with it. Well, what I was exposing, now you have to bear in mind that when I was at LAPD and I resigned,
9:09 That's incredible. I've never heard anybody put it that way, but you're absolutely right. we insist on engaging in all these things overseas that pay strange dividends. If there wasn't some sort of a 9-11 attack It was a great segment. that Iran had something to do with 9-11, And they're just ready. election 2004, choice point, de-vote all the software and all.
12:07 All right, so I think that Ron Paul is so far way much further ahead Wow. is absolutely terrifying to people. You've got to get beaten into a state of reasonableness. the protesters are moving along in New York, both both both so it's accelerating as well as people yeah picking up on oh the rate of You grow your own food. Well, we're growing food I had to.
14:51 A lot of people have shoulder issues. and you're you know and you you're you're out there exposed, constantly doing radio interviews, constantly doing, you know. She's alive. ideology or is this your you have a philosophy it kind of originated with dr james lovelock and and We just only assume that consciousness is human consciousness. like healthy animals living organisms i mean it's so fascinating that we absolutely need that in
18:02 And it's specially bred compost. It's got, you know, a whole bunch. Right. a lot of it to be hidden under the guise of religion, that's the big one. first they were living their religion 24 77. That was not a textbook. like stick your finger into a light socket. And I went to his tracker school. Max, my assistant, I went to his Brown of Tom Brown Tracker School, a friend of mine. And I went to his tracker school.
21:25 task is now but to remember you know You're optimistic in what way? now my friend colin campbell was one of the uh he's the godfather of the peak oil movement And truly, I think there may be hundreds of millions or a billion or more of us around Do you think Obama knew what was going to happen before he got And there's no difference between Democrat and Republican.
24:02 He was? it's such a fucking rigged Whoa. Remember when he took out that ad? And he's the only one that made any sense. It's terrifying. He said to those in the room, he said, It's like no one has ever been straight with the people and had it all even. Well, all of that stuff is cooked, but the reason why, let's take a quote from Meyer Rothschild. the endless fucking corruption. You know what killed me when all was going down when the bailouts were happening
27:42 What is that bonus based on? Those who win I've talked to people that probably shouldn't Oh, geez. And I can do the sexy thing with a cigarette, obviously. Oh, yeah. We have cigarettes and cigarettes are pretty addictive like they're bombs they're sliding a shrimp bomb your way like what is what the fuck is in that He was a colleague of mine in the peak oil movement for many years.
29:51 There's the shaft from Deepwater Rising that went down. Like, what an unusual city. Very strange. The fact that those poor people got hit by that man you know after katrina yeah then they get hit by Jesus Christ. In Japan? the plutonium, and, you know. Wow. uh, the birds have, uh, have eaten radioactive seeds and they're shitting out radioactive poop
32:56 if you're thinking about getting some sleep? going on yeah we're clearing house what really trustworthy useful information right right now That's what I keep hearing now that you never used to hear before. Well, not Waco. Why does it always go bad, what was it? these people's houses. you can't avoid that. But one of my biggest angers, if you'd only listened to me 30 years ago,
35:29 And now we're all kind of going, well, yeah, of course that happened. who said you need a revolution every generation. Can't you guys evolve? They're going to have to die off. because they come from a long career of doing that, once you know that's this is kind of a dimension Where is it all going to end? is like the mega end to climax at the end of Act II, okay?
38:47 The money itself has no power. but a biological disaster? We've destroyed the environment as well. Technology got far enough ahead that we could support gigantic groups of people, Let's start there. bring in China immediately on Iran's side in a thermonuclear conflict. Oh, you know it? They know that the outcome of their actions would be either through climate change to kill all life on this planet,
42:11 that you'll sting me and kill me he goes why would i do that he goes if i did that we would both And that's the point of this parallel. Well, it's supposed to be 2012. the path that Western civilization went on While one group part of the world was thinking about something else, But, yeah yeah and they operated the infinite growth paradigm is dying.
45:01 I think that the way we get through this, first of all, Is that what you're going to say? you can't do it with just dudes. into like-minded groups of really nice people It's so difficult to get Flying into this giant grid of artificial light. It's shitty. Right. I think a couple stars in the sky, those are too abstract. in front of the infinite yeah but you're experiencing an impossible vision connected
48:59 It's amazing. we're going to have to kill them. in the Georgia Guidestones? 500 million, though, just to fight off rare point in history people have sort of forgotten that at one point in time just 50,000 years ago But it was stable for more than, Because kids are awesome. The real problem. No. to make the vehicle. You've got to mine the ore. How many gallons of oil
52:43 car. a nuclear reactor. It keeps the TV running. What a mess. I mean, they have that big blackout down here, down in San economy. Yeah, that's amazing. Yeah. It's amazing. What a mess. Those are going to be coming, and eventually they're going to be permanent. Help us. Okay. That's the lesson for everybody here who becomes aware of collapse. there are tens of millions of us around the world already moving
54:59 you know You mean gasoline, though? Yeah, and it's happening all over the world right now. It becomes harder to get, et cetera, et cetera. doing it because it seemed like like you know they were they were going out in the blazer glory No, it was a superheated economy. was doing at the time. There was some minor stuff with spec, but it's fundamentally peak oil.
58:04 They fell apart like immediately like from the get-go. What's the motivation for this? and getting much worse all the time. freaks me out is that that seems like that's a Well, it's sort of a crazy situation in Afghanistan, Okay, now you're dealing with a superpower. BC, okay? Jesus Christ. That's been Iran's borders. The borders of Iraq were drawn by Winston Churchill
1:01:01 And that's a big weakness for Iraq and a big strength for Iran. With Iran. Brilliant guy. when everybody in this country looks at every other sane person in this country and says, yeah, we got nuclear power, all these bad guys really volatile country in the first place. had the clearance when I was living with my parents. We should be worried about the shit that was missing in the Soviet Union.
1:03:47 my product plutonium yeah anyway enriched uranium is like that's the Albert Einstein looked at the first nuclear reactor. or something. Yeah. As collapse proceeds, our ability to deal with Fukushima-like events It's amazing. Oil. That's what happened. on the CollapseNet website. The speech was called The Birth of Post-Petroleum Human. And I coined a
1:08:07 outside of that of those measurements and those controls um and that's really what i think the There was a reason why, and I got deeply involved in that when I saw the violence. But there were so many of us at so many levels who stepped up because we were so totally offended by that. It's freedom. One of the first things that NYPD took out of Zuccotti Park was the library.
1:10:43 Why would they close the library and throw all the books this is this is a you know it's a big They did the equivalent of burning the books. That's amazing. And they can indefinitely suspend you. You know, in Japan, congress has just passed a law that violates the Constitution. December 27th. I'm expecting him to sign it. for all. and to control you completely.
1:14:04 But whenever you give people power over other people, I've seen people at the airport, and maybe he just had a bad day, or maybe they were tired or whatever. If anything, it should be something nice and simple. and this will pass immediately the world is governed by organized crime and if And who are those people? I mean, that guy shot his friend in the face and his friend apologized.
1:16:42 The book's in the Harvard Business Library. So the only way to do that was to allow Do they trust people to fly those planes? I'm schizophrenic on that. There's no chain of evidence with the buildings. You can't prove it in court. The book that I wrote is legally admissible in court. There's a chain of evidence. There's no chain of evidence with the buildings. You can't prove it in court. And I'm still that
1:18:33 I mean, if something happened like that, which is an unexpected event, and it caused the building to collapse, which nobody anticipated. Right. that I proved without arguing building collapse This was a piece of work that I did. My father was a decorated But on the day. that were scheduled. Now, normally the Northeast Air Defense Sector, ANG, Air National Guard pilots,
1:21:48 that injected 24 false radar blips onto the screens of the Northeast Air Defense sector how it was done the planes were easily flown by remote control. I believe in New York City, the remote control was operated out of WTC-7, and Teddy Ruxpin was sitting there, they're like, hey, what are these pilots? decades. They were proposing, that was part I was dating a girl who was working in the White House. I dated her a long time ago.
1:23:47 and why she was looking into that and really spooked her. Yeah. the people with leadership and trying to move us forward, but the coup de grace was administered with the assassinations I'm sorry, he didn't. or another with LSD? the kind of... It's super effective? don't remember too much of it but i do remember like having my jaw halfway hanging off my face
1:26:32 that fucking, I handled a few homicides. bush administration or you know dick cheney he could do it oh not bill man i just want to get In other words, they're bonds that you can walk into any large bank in the world and I forget the documentary. got smashed for that and i got poisoned but one of the early stories we broke barry seal used to Holy shit.
1:28:43 That goes back to Air America, They didn't cause 9-1-1. these war games, so they figured that's a time to I agree, but I'm just giving you a what if because I watched Mission Impossible 5 the other night. Come on. They didn't know or they did know. He couldn't get an instrument rating. Hopsicker did amazing work about the Venice Flying School and Mohammed Atta's Flying Circus and all real hard documentation.
1:31:59 now you have to understand that when you're flying a 757 or a 767 and you're coming out of a turn onto the North Tower. No. down you know they have to they have to do all these different things that they did that day How many people do you think knew? Yeah. A human pilot can't do that. Skill. How often do you work a kata before you, you know? 400 witnesses on I-395, truck drivers, cab drivers, soccer moms, you name it. They all saw an airplane
1:35:44 Why do you think they did that? stories. be effective, has to be 90% true. Otherwise, you won't swallow it. You won't buy it. So there's a Exactly. and so that made me think well what if this guy is like working for them like making everything path that are there just to say stupid shit i think credit things yes but i also think there that are successful like their competition oh that motherfucker he's a he's a cia he's an operative
1:39:24 You don't get You sounded a bit like a jilted lover. Thank you. And like the U.S. government spent, State Department spent $3 million refuting every other 9-11 theory out there. obviously not on these C-SPAN shows or CNN shows. You're not being interviewed all the time. So no matter how many books this sells, no matter how many people watch Collapse,
1:41:03 What is the one that makes your penis hard? In other words, I am invisible to the powers that be. And so if somebody thought that you were a disinformation agent, Right. that everything was falling apart because then they have to see the body of work. You seem like the perfect person to talk about this stuff. that's been taking place in covering up all these other crimes. Every major media outlet
1:43:18 Exactly. No, no, he can't get on The Tonight Show. I don't think he has the balls. He says some pretty controversial shit on that show. Let's rephrase that. you know, this is the beginning SOPA doesn't scare me enough Wow. So that happens. U.S. Constitution. That's fundamental. Really, you don't need to have the military in the fucking half of the population.
1:47:07 americans like they did with the japanese right after world war ii and put them in camps jesus You have to heat for the people. cities or something like that but no long term because the resources don't exist to do that Yeah, no, that was the Nazi plan, and that didn't work. Collapse is happening. It's a done deal. That's a good way to get laid. We can't have the derivatives.
1:50:31 over the world it only works if people are willing to take up guns it only works if the common folk and you said, fuck you, the CIA's selling drugs. Yeah, the cops did. The Rampart division. Yeah. He's quoted a Bette Midler song I was like Sideshow to make you believe that there's a democracy to begin with. Seems like he was just it's a horrible story um during the occupy oakland uh demonstrations uh late at night um
1:54:05 It's a town of about, we had the highest per capita turnout in the country. There were Vietnam veterans, and there were Gulf One veterans, throwing back. Jesus Christ. And this groundswell from the veterans community, the honorable commit atrocities in really horrible wars and came home and they've never been able He was about 5'4". And his name was Skip Mayhawk.
1:56:22 And so here's this guy. The Oshaw is legendary. And I think Shamar Thomas really embodies that. There's no honor. These are your people. That's the power of honor. Is there a way to turn it around? We've got to kidnap him. That's Shamar. He's so close to my age. these wars. How is, how, how are they able to do this to him? And Barack Obama's presidential decisions, especially since 2008,
2:00:34 have you seen it oh god no have you seen it Brian Brian find it on YouTube and which watch it because Wow. That's incredible. stale nature of a democracy Those of us who were smart enough to start moving in that direction ahead of time, yes. perfection there's not not ready and then ready you know you're not in a binary state do you There's a recovery.
2:03:06 Okay, so, you know, all that stuff just needs to be seen what it is and disengage from it it's weapons of mass destruction it's it's it's codependent to want to go in and this system. This system needs to be What are you doing, Brian? As you said yourself, Steve, I would put our legislative and foreign policy accomplishments in our first two years against any president,
2:04:34 With guns and tanks. fuck could he be talking about that's the orwellian nature of this absolute crap we see on on the Yeah. What do you think is going to be the end point? you think we can kind of smooth everything out and still have cars? and in it I said the way the system works, infinite growth, mergers and everything now, and nuclear weapons are exchanged, it could be over in two weeks.
2:07:48 No, I don't. They even asked him to go on TV and say that we asked for it back. just say we ask for it back. Expect it to be a lot more nonsensical which has made the Chinese communist government back down and not because you want people to die, are you allowed to say shit like that? How come everybody forgot that? to see, you're going to see massive breakdowns, because there's going to be soldiers in this
2:10:55 They probably just changed that with the NDAA. There are some laws that restrict some people's ability in some places to grow food. farm? No. war on drugs, all the different that the giant agribiz corporations, Monsanto and Cargill control. Yeah. that the country, that politically Okay, so what's difficult to get about the concept What the fuck about this?
2:13:57 I mean, it's like— modified beef because we haven't done it yet. armored cars set on fire in rome the arab spring you know right but in general there's like you And when you see things like Egypt, like these crazy beatings that they're doing, installations. And I mean, some of the largest, most expensive military bases ever built. That's the other catch to this.
2:16:49 underwater yet. And hoping that their It won't be flatline across the board. When the Roman Empire collapsed, there were some Yeah. got a whole coffee table book at home with photos from the Salton Sea. Oh! You going to make it through? and the, you know, legality and the accomplishments that you've achieved? It's ridiculous. We need to take care of ourselves.
2:20:14 And those of us who work to build community, there's a great movement, Transition U.S. to learn how to live with less power and things like that. by mad hordes of fucking scoundrels and zombies. the mayans right the mayans left the giant temples behind and when they discovered them hundreds of I have a letter because I got really bad. And that works for me.
2:22:35 They don't care. You know, then they would come on some federal pretext. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So it just really hurt real bad? Right. Yeah, it's fine. Probably a homicide. And I was the first officer on the scene, and it was a Sunday, You have to see it within your... Yeah. Embedded in his skull? Look at that, dude. I was in two shootings and a lot of fights.
2:26:50 Jesus Christ. You never finished telling us about why you went to Venezuela. I love the guy. And so I copied him, took him back to our the cover-up. before the Tillman hearings. Very suddenly. You know, he fell on his No. You think they fragged him? I don't think it was a planned premeditated murder. in his own serial That's too much speculation. Stan, let's give the credit where it's due to Stan Goff.
2:31:25 All seven of my computers were smashed. Yeah. And then it's Sergeant Fuckface. Okay? Foreign ministry knew I was in the country. I came back to the U.S. in, actually to Canada first. It's right out there with Giorgio Suculosa's hair. And there was nothing they could do to save you. you were worried about someone finding where you were? No, I, you know,
2:34:21 I came into an inheritance from my father that I had to fight for for three years, for like the last three catches up, and she mentioned that she might like to have me be when the last time you saw a movie where a dude just talks for 90 minutes? Holy shit. And they were feeding me the energy drinks, and they'd have them. We did a Dave Chappelle show.
2:36:25 That's a bad impression. I mean, it's like, I have no doubt that something larger than me tapped me and gave me the ball. It's like, oh, wait a minute, there's a big hole in that building over there. There is a balancing that is taking place. It's long overdue. It's a, it's, it's as a I hope we all keep our eyes and they can get an ideology of happiness and of sustaining your environment
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