Joe Rogan Experience #1704 — C.K. Chin Transcript

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0:00 The Joe Rogan Experience. We're five years apart, exactly, to the day. That's crazy odds. Are they really? It's like one of them trick problems. Well, okay. It's like, all right. They're like, well, she's having your sister. But, you know, obviously I love her. this kind of twin connection and it's really in a way I've never been someone that was very possessive on that kind of stuff so

2:53 I had a, you know, I have an interesting perspective also. And then we'll see if this kid is worth celebrating later on. that's got to be annoying 28 like what you should have a job yeah we shouldn't be asking for a free know global you know scoreboard that says that he you were right and this I mean I started bartending you know early 1819 so for 224 years so it was

5:52 Continue going to school. I really, it's weird. Like, what are you all doing? I just never really kind of fully got out of the way. I guess, into my thirties. Yeah. I think, I think you should have a better understanding. And again, It's like this weird kind of thing. And I remember reading that kind of stuff and thinking about that and thinking about how like most recently, I think Spider-Man, they finally cast a young, young guy as opposed to like a

8:32 Well, it's just superhero movies. Exactly. If that's what you want to do with a superhero movie, go back and do that about Bugs Bunny too, stupid. Yeah, exactly. Do you watch the series? Wait, wait, wait. Yeah. He seems way too normal. Yeah. Let me see what he looks like. Pull up what he looks like. The real Dr. Manhattan in the movie is like a perfect specimen.

10:48 Look at him. Yeah. But it is more raw. like the comedian is a terrible person in the watchman yeah the guy with the mustache and the But they basically go follow these superheroes that just aren't good people. I thought it was like a Watchmen ripoff. That's what we have right now with the government. Was Wu Chao your first place? That was my first spot and what happened that spot still there. Yeah, it's existing

14:16 Like the idea of like doing things family style? It's just that kind of concept. what we're trying to do the whole hostile thing like you just think immediately about foreign So there's a bar right outside. how does that ever go from the meeting to fruition? has this exact same mentality, you're kind of ahead of the game. And then he says filled with like very odd characters. Yeah. It's a very,

18:03 need for a hostel as opposed to this one. together and you can all rent the room together, that's a great deal. You can do that too. Yeah. food as well and um i just remember he was coming here and, you know, no shade on corporate type restaurants. Any of the local cheesesteak spots that are dope. I brought Golden Tiger to y'all. Yeah. It's a pop-up spot.

21:06 Oh, a burger club. it's like, yeah, there's a steak burger there's a are you a guy that likes them flat-ass skinny burgers or a thick meaty You have to make sure it's not dry. That's right. Because when you bite into one of those and it's dry, it's such a like just a whole bunch of potatoes yeah that was great and fresh baked buns and stuff like that i mean it's and and i think that's the that's the it's the whole the the whole is greater than the

23:18 Give me an example. Or is it because we grew up eating it I like how it sticks to the roof of your mouth. like the only time i'm allowed to have white bread I've never eaten white bread at a barbecue place. It is just to scratch craziest things about Austin is the variety guy is still pretty fucking fast. Who's got the best sides? like it's just not fair that line is preposterous preposterous and so to like, all right, well, then Terry Blacks is the only one that opens through.

26:50 though which is pretty sweet and there's an artisanship to it too oh for sure for sure oh because you don't, that was a thing? culinary type stuff, I grew lettuce and tomatoes. Yes. Yeah, yeah, yeah. What are you doing it at? Yeah, offset smoker. And so for me, that whole, try to make the bread, made my own mayonnaise, made real, made butter from cream.

29:12 It is a little bit Well, it was unprecedented amount of free time unprecedented, especially someone in the business that works. That's the thing about the smoke has to cool down there's some science behind that yeah but that's that was it which And the batch had to come up. It's like you're trying to do brisket, I don't know, until the next morning and then you come back and it's like, oh, the fire was too hot.

31:59 better at it right get better at it but you have to know what you did wrong. That was the part. So with making with bread, I don't know what I did wrong. for someone like an Aaron or someone like, this little thing or put it, I mean, if you look at their menu, they cook like 10 things. But it's like this style with whatever it is. Right. Spaghetti and meatballs.

34:26 And they go back and show this dish to a bunch of people in China and Taiwan and all the places. is typically served with general sauce chicken, And then it's, when you have access to it here it's it's demographical you know i think that it just can't grow it's hard to grow like your dish at There it is. ginger and sesame seeds on a burger and it's like oh there's something asian about this thing and

37:19 Right. Right. It's worth it, though. well we put mandarin oranges in it and wonton crisps and ginger you're like where'd that come My grandmother never was like, let's make salad tonight and canned open of mandarin oranges and whipped together. and then everybody knows what a Chinese chicken salad is. Those people should stay home. There might be better things, but sometimes not.

40:27 the trick to good fried rice at home moisture and oil and soy sauce and I mean, that is the culture. big table full of food and then we all have our own little rice bowl and we all just eat a little You know, I never liked that idea. I always, I'm the guy that when, if you and I were, Let's, we all kind of, For me, it's just more of like, especially with new restaurants, older restaurants, sure, you eat what you want.

43:40 Yeah, a big slab of meat. That's one of my favorite ways to eat because if you want to get really full in 15 minutes, I think for people like us. No. going to the salad bar I'm looking for stuff that looks delicious. I'm looking for olives and cheese and peppers, you know. Mm-hmm. out yeah you know who knows what's flowing through that animal's body yeah

46:36 cruelest place in the world it's just constant screaming yeah it's just murder soup it's like And we have to be, I think that that's even, again, even in our role as humans and stuff like that, that's, we should come to grips with that. And they're like, we're out. We shouldn't have an unlimited right amount of Right. Yeah. Yeah. like buffalo wings yeah you know and i think

50:20 So it's like a noodle with no broth at all? It's like in the 70s or something. I wonder how the fuck that came about. Yeah. Yeah. Yes. Do you know that? He fucking classically hates ranch. I agree. But ranch is dairy. Son of a bitch. I think that people have, there's purists out there that say this is, like I said, I Yeah, that's a weird one. those people that I, I try to experience it from both ways.

53:41 Really? in a very consistent and broad way It's like, what you eat don't make me shit. Isn't it? end i take offense to that if i cook steak at home my kids want to use ketchup i'm like oh my god Far from the city. Because that's where I know it from. Stole from Jay-Z. vinegar malt vinegar yeah yeah you know like there's like very specific that's a very specific It has to have tartar sauce, but occasionally a little vinegar. Malt vinegar. Yeah. Yeah.

56:41 That's an English thing. Yeah. And so is fish and chips. So you just, They do a lot of that in Mexico. Mmm, right how mind-blowing i really think that i don't know if potatoes are difficult to again if you really look at it if you Well, wild tubers. Yeah. after you blew it first. Recently. I wonder, you know? Thursday. When did they figure out water filtration? Not recently. Yeah, recently. Not a hundred years.

1:00:19 Well, they have that straw. It'll kill all the parasites. eating health. I mean, a lot of people went right back to eating bullshit. A lot of people, 78% is a big fucking number, man. Yeah. I'm kind of jamming like multiple lives into a single life. Yeah. And this is the way you do it. You just say 30 minutes of cardio. Because it's a rock solid habit with me now, but it's helped me in the past tremendously, especially when there's a lot of things on that list.

1:05:17 I didn't do anything today. I'm still not doing anything. And then you get a trainer. No. What i'm gaining all this queso weight since i moved to texas and and i said well go around ladybird works. For me, I mean, it still took a couple hours, but I never took two hours to go on a walk. Keep going. Like when I go to a restaurant, I'll overeat. Maybe because I do it for a living.

1:08:02 doing. Cause, uh, I just was like, let me try this. So you could raise up one. I got it down. It's a little easier. Yeah. fuck-up error. cold elk with hot sauce. thing that happens. I think there's this kind of misconception, I think, when, I think there was a, there's this kind Yeah, that's not good. Would you ever do hot ones? I think the understanding is the uncomfortableness of it.

1:11:25 them to explore their ideas. I don't want them to be to someone. Enjoy the food. It is definitely a bit of a gimmick. You know you're in trouble when the habanero is the light spice on that. It's like there's got to be some depth to it, and I like that layers of that kind of stuff. She likes the Reaper sauce. But the kind of stuff that I feel like is stabbing me in the throat. I it all it's awesome good to know i love it all but i really love mexican spice yeah

1:14:29 Like my grandmother never made chicken noodle soup for me growing up, obviously, old Chinese woman. I think there was one in Woodland Hills I used to go to. people might argue and sit there and say mcdonald's is comforting as hell because but i think that's like to me yeah those are you know physical freaks those people that are Yes. You hear something different than me.

1:17:26 It tastes like soap to some folks. It's with everything in life, with fashion, painted a different color. For sure. Yeah. That if you get too much, you're taking it from me. and then realize that, you know what? that part of the reason that they're unhappy Also, like I can see your reactions and so much of that communication is that way yeah but after this is done there's

1:20:07 just making weird-ass comments. No, they wouldn't. they're just doing it in a public forum. And then I have to look at them. I don't know, reading from a bunch of sloppy, lazy thinkers who are just shitty online. There's so life the way they do online and it's rude and it's awful and you see it and it's just like Because for me, there is a humility that comes from that I think that a lot of people just don't have.

1:23:29 especially someone like yourself that has a platform is that you're a person that hasn't sought out attention. that you're just an artist and that I like to talk to people that make great You even brought plant-based burgers once. I was like, what is this nonsense? taste the difference. And that's also the thing is Exactly. If you want to eat vegetarian and just eat vegetables, there's some delicious dishes.

1:25:49 I really enjoy that aspect of restaurants and stuff too, I'll give you an example. Like how all of us, we had a zoom call with 50 restaurant owners that were like, lost their job in the community to come and get free, come get the food from us. So we don't go This is dangerous. Like that was a thing where it's like, man, I've got a 25 pound bag of rice.

1:28:26 Ordinarily, they're beautiful. And I think that that stressed people out a little bit you know when we're out and McDonald's and Jack in the Box and all that stuff, if like that was off the menu, Like everyone has to cook their own food. the sitting around a table, sharing a meal with something. And then four years later brought him in for the graduation dinner. I remember watching this kid like, oh, my God, it's been four years.

1:31:24 It's like, no, it's like this person really enjoyed what we're doing. um is very similar to cooking you know i think that the reason why I relate to musicians in that way also is the recognition of being able to kind of pull from this database of knowledge of what this is supposed to sound like and that and realizing that these three things sound good together, these three things taste together.

1:33:16 And to be able to be able to have that on demand, you know, and again, every art, every entertainer has that palette. it sounds amazing that it feels like it's the first time you've ever said those words. Oh, it's awesome. Right. In the world, because education never was able to go backwards like this. I mean, you really you have this opportunity to do that.

1:36:57 it's like, it's kind of like this interesting thing when you have this platform that allows It's a really dumb way to communicate. sure why I think the way I think sometimes. patting you on the back and telling you how smart you are, how good, how much we agree with each Right. What people get upset about is that I'm having that conversation and millions of people are

1:39:56 The people that think that that's dangerous, the reason why they think it's dangerous is not because it's dangerous to them. that it is dangerous right right right right like cap the Capitol riots yes And it becomes their whole life. They're not successful in their chosen field. you know, who, who, who roots for the other team. It gets really like so sad that if they lost,

1:43:17 They couldn't fucking take it. which is the transit system, about a fucking guy who dropped a ball. But, you know, I remember right in the very beginning of all this, I was talking to my grandmother. the word as the plague like we're going through the plague and then i told her about it i said i Well, especially when she was a child. was just a decade after the spanish flu

1:47:03 shirt they were wearing or whatever it is what the problem is that i think those same sort of survival instincts and people that care about climate change versus people that think we have other problems that about that was fascinating about talking about the changing of your opinion is akin to actual physical damage like there's like But it's along the lines of saying that

1:49:25 It gets, you know, completely disrupted. They're flawed. it's like this being a part of this community, you know, I could see because if I was going through some shit and this person over here said they the people that are opposed, I think that that's I think that's what we talk about also in this tribe, in this kind of organization, the stuff that we're doing now is that it's very hard for us to

1:52:23 and put somebody into this little We don't take the time because if you work all day though, like say if you have some at all. friendly with or familiar with yes you go yes yes, and that's what they want. They want that yes. Yeah. Because I have a right to disagree with you. the tribe that you're on is tribe open-minded conversation. Yeah, I think that there's also this moment where you got to stop trying to convince people to come to your side.

1:55:28 So I'm curious as to why you believe that. Yeah, for sure. And now they're trying to tell you that raw fruit is the only thing that you should be eating. Again, I don't like apologies, so let's make some good veggie dishes Or the horrors of monocrop agriculture. you really have no right to talk about that. You're concerned about testing and, and still say that, hey, that's fine,

1:59:06 And when your identity is wrapped up in ideas, and these aren't, again, Or red. No, no, what I'm saying is like, More people are probably idea-connected than are not. I could be like a lot of other probably most people. Maybe I'm wrong. you could lose yourself like if you didn't have a job and your entire day was sifting through the I think I thought about it this way when I remember we were in

2:02:21 imagine if this happened in 1985. And so I was thinking like, man, how difficult would it have been? I mean, there's a bunch of those yeah a lot of it is junk food. I treat a lot of it like junk food. I love a potato chip every once because it's more interesting and it's more, And so I think you just tend to lean towards that kind of stuff a little bit. And I think it's tough. Yeah, I just, that's

2:06:00 president, because the media was so upset that Trump had become the Right. And that's what's scary. Even with science, We're not to say that it's a purified like that. and getting money out of – to make it so that these people that make these huge decisions that affect policy, That's dirty. and stuff like that. that manufactures rape whistles. I remember I sat in,

2:09:39 you know i want us to be like why do we have that charity? That problem is solved. We looked into this problem. particularly for Los Angeles. they are not doing a good job it's tough. Yeah, that's terrifying. All these are all some basic business 101. imagine sitting in the boardroom and talk about sales are plummeting, Right. And the budget gets bigger and bigger every year. And no one hits the brakes on it because it's literally farming.

2:13:14 their job. This is enough for us to finish this problem. Like, is this really charity or is this a job? So there's a lot of resources that are attached to that, you know, um, I don't know, you know, Well, you have to throw a gala for 100 grand Also, it's like when someone says art should be free, I think it's important for people to do that. the big graffiti park that was happening downtown town

2:16:36 serving it out of a food truck or a little hand cart And it's all arbitrary, right? But then the exhibit was in there they do that all the time You might not be good at it, which is fine. on the line at the restaurants. I don't cook that way. I don't like cooking that way. I was, help establish it. CK, Maintaining your love for the food itself and the way it's cooked and I think that's what that's the thing

2:20:04 Yeah. Yeah. It was- Yeah. man. That was the weirdest shit I've ever seen in my life was I went to go see, He was like normally people come to his show to hear new stuff There's guys like him and Gaffigan. bitch yeah i just start screaming bits at him and i'm just like i don't like what in the world but But what's weird about the comedy part is that the part of it that's amazing is the part that you want is a surprise.

2:22:45 I can burn out a song. Yeah, exactly. fucking guy who kept fucking with him and then you know finally he had to yell out man we just It's so weird. I think it might have started. And then it became a different thing. And that was – Lenny Bruce is the real godfather of modern stand-up. So much funnier that even though comedy is very connected to the time.

2:26:22 It doesn't really resonate with people how good he was back then. Or even, like, the Beatles and people, like, passing out. Yeah. able to it's almost like tricking us the listener to through comedy of saying something that i agree you're talking about i think there's something about how exciting it is to see a room full of to be able to sit there and go,

2:29:37 think that that's to me is is what it is how do you address a room of a thousand people and make That's the one thing that's really amazing about this time is there's so much art. Right. addicted to today. That's got to be something that people really strive for. And that can help us. How would you talk to this person if you had any concern about whether or not this person would get there, would get, would feel like pain from what you're saying?

2:31:58 I think that I've come across as many different types of people as possible. that I don't like that way, but here's your ketchup. all around cool guy