Joe Rogan Experience #1706 — Billy Corben Transcript

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0:00 the joe rogan experience train by day joe rogan podcast by night all day It was a rough few days, that Florida has gotten At least I can go to restaurants. One in five COVID deaths in the United States occurred in Florida. by the end of the pandemic, it will overtake the terror attacks of September 11th, 2001, as the single deadliest incident in the history of United States law enforcement.

2:32 What is the difference between the way Florida is treating it and the way other states are treating it? Yeah. COVID-19, number one cop killer for two years running and counting. what Florida makes. We sell the sunshine. Do you guys make machine guns? Yeah. We have gun It relies solely on new outside money and investors coming in the next day. old people die normally anyway.

5:08 But there's a 27-year-old police officer, It's very unusual for a 27-year-old person with good health care, someone who's been taken care of, to die from COVID. Like, that's just, you know, we're all walking, talking comorbidities. That's that's just the reality. But, you know, the the the truth is, is that there is a safe and effective and in fact, free way to because that's the thing, too, is the treatment is not a a pre infection prophylaxis.

7:09 It's shown to have an incredible rate. I don't know if they're doing that. Yes. I mean, that's what I said. we develop hypotheses, we collect data, you experiment, we analyze that data, And it can protect you from hospitalization. there's a lot of treatment that's available that's not discussed. I eat really well and I'm healthy. How many places? This is so interesting to me. There's so many places for testing,

11:23 Yeah. that they're distributing they're doing that for some strange reason I don't They know that it's used for river blindness. to feed stores, which by the way is anecdotal. Even they say this is not a proven treatment for either to avoid the virus or to treat the virus. Whereas a monoclonal antibodies, Regeneron, has emergency use authorization.

13:29 And one of the reasons why Merck is talking about it is they're developing their own antiviral medication, There's studies of it that have the efficacy of it. There's studies I think that is, we've learned that a lot over the last two years. I think that, you know, we know that two of the biggest studies on ivermectin have been I think that that's absolutely true.

15:37 I didn't go right into it all along. I was just going to talk to you Last time I talked to you was Screwball, right? there's so much of your your work the petrifying i'm a florida native you know in a lifelong miami and i think the petrifying thing that i a Florida native, you know, and a lifelong Miamian. mine which is which is South Florida do you think that's because of it's very

17:32 I've lived there my whole life. It'll definitely be underwater. That's where Champlain Towers is. This is the tower that collapsed. It has to do with the distance between the sun and the moon and the earth. Yeah, that's in the some sort of a wall. We're building like this eight hundred million dollar bridge that we don't need that's but it's it's super

20:49 The Florida man phenomenon. 70s, the 80s, these recording artists would go down to Miami? Yeah, listen, Miami is just, these two guys in a fucking room we have the lyrics and so everybody the Allman Brothers playing Eric Clapton in a pickup basketball game. was that um they had a a line item on the bills. And I think, by the way, cocaine at that time was probably

24:24 hey, I have a question about this. And the guy who runs the studio, Trevor, his mom was the manager before him. So he was a little kid running around this scene. band uh they put it she put it down on the coffee table. She cut it open. I just want to take away. I want to know what that's like So cocaine, you know, drug trends tend to be kind of cyclical, you know?

26:53 Obviously there's some overlap But the 60s drugs kind of came around again. like, you do coke still? And one of them survived, and she's in the ICU now, I mean... We all know what it means. You're just rolling the dice that the cartel didn't fuck up in this mix. legalize all drugs, people would be like, anything, any kind of wasting disease, and it's super good for your body.

30:30 This is probably the nausea preventing aspect that chemo patients enjoy and people that you know people with AIDS a medicinal hot toddy when you have a little cold maybe you know there's no medicinal purpose you do 100 for you making your own choices you're right to wave your hands and ends where my nose begins In New York City. and turned it into a nightclub.

33:09 in touch with their feelings and and it was a it was a viable not only was it a viable medicine you got a bunch of guys making pills in their condos you know like with the the synthetic as a therapeutic use medicine, really, which is really what it is. this never- ending saga in Florida I'm 43. When do you smoke it? I almost never smoke pot. It's a nice feeling? I'm a lightweight. Yeah. Listen, 10 milligrams is nice. It's a nice feeling.

36:19 Yeah. Right. Listen, Chick-fil-A is good without pot, but I was like, oh, I get it. me creatively i love it i was like really i just thought i made you stupid i thought it was just a I get this weird like pressure in my head from it. Oh my God. God, I didn't know what to move you try sex on it? No. That's the move. Really? Oh my God. Yeah, it's a complete game changer.

39:08 Edibles high dose edibles with an isolation tank is as wild as any mushroom trip. I've ever done And then it was like this weird sort of fractal effect, and it was it was which is write drunk, edit sober. It's not like write drunk, edit sober. asleep and then I get barbecued. And then usually after a show, I guess a little more important all because he was really like off the rails crazy and doing pounds of blow and fucking drinking

42:55 those keyboards i'm gonna read that but i haven't read the book his book about writing oh it's really It's about how incredible he found his early success And then it's also about Yeah. while he's battling his own literal demons. when I was here last time, to sit and write. Where have you been? oh okay yeah i saw him bomb there i went to vegas in like 2000 ish and i got to town

46:13 material for his HBO next issue, which was the God bit. and i turn around as you imagine this shot from ipov i kind of pan the room and i look at these and George Carlin's nose is right here. I saw Carlin Baum in New Hampshire in 1988 or 89, somewhere around then. It was basically fuck everything. This is fucking terrible. Well, this is when I was just either thinking

49:32 and some of them were brutes. it was interesting to see but i'd taken them to see everybody. Have you ever met him? Dom Herrera was always in the trenches still is I was really lucky for a while the apartment and I watch Netflix How did she do that? and he said, Did she? So what happens is when people go, want to tweet at him, they go at Billy C-O-R.

53:19 all of a sudden at the top of the stairway a vision janet jackson she's like in this beautiful And it's Jermaine Dupri, not Jackson, her brother. She's like, are you sure everything's okay? And she's like, you know, when we were growing up, my sister, she was interested in love story and romance novels. And she wanted to talk about Griselda Blanco, the godmother.

55:51 or gin and so we get a call from why so specific that's just what i like i like i'm not i'm agnostic Stone crabs go with beer, though. have like we make a rum we and now we have some micro breweries we don't we don't man we don't I've seen hundreds of documentaries. It does. I'm two in now I think I told you this. to ply your trade i know what pardon me a guy was working as an ER doctor, Jackson, at the trauma center in 1980.

59:16 And you don't know who they are. for so people on fixed incomes you know social security elderly retired and then it attracted a And it was over dumb shit. Saves the guy. Guy goes on his way days later he gets another guy another They were the number one seller of Dom Perignon. about $9 billion a year into the economy in miami the drug trade But just I'll give you an example.

1:03:21 in Miami-Dade, southwest Miami-Dade, in a cocaine stash house for a summer. What do you get? Guy says, I'll give you $10,000 to come out cash tax free. Come on. So here's a guy not really in the drug business, just comes out to do some manual labor, gets $10,000 cash. It went into everything. We have to subsist that way because we don't have any other industry.

1:05:18 That's what I said. generational wealth and they I think about De Niro and Goodfellas when you say that. Hollywood is not as flashy as Miami. I mean listen. It's not a coincidence that we're now like a Isn't that the whole point? It's not. into godzilla or whatever but a lot of these older power plants apparently no i'm not very Like it is like Godzilla shit. Yeah, there's actually actually this hilarious, terrible, like, I can't even call it a B movie.

1:08:50 I'm not saying that everything in Miami the Kings of Miami, they helped to start a bank sudden sudden millionaires and billionaires that we had cropping up i mean willie and sal were tons. These guys spent $25 million which was at the time a, you know, as an officer in these shell companies and so we had to take him out. That's a deleted scene, by the way, from our documentary.

1:11:45 I mean, because like, there's no, and all the crazy shit that's in the movie, last line here I need fucking I need six of them right buttons cliffhangers some no market but there was make it four hours i did cocaine cowboys reloaded in 2014 which is two and So basically when I first met you, I was already well underway on this project. Because even though it's the fourth release in the franchise, we'll call it, it was the first story that we wanted to tell.

1:13:54 That's why it's so good though, man. I have to think that that's why your work's so good. Thank you. I'm sure. I think some of our best documentaries are musicals. I want it all to feel like, be unapologetically Miami and Cuban-American. the thing when it like, there's a, it's like a show. but you're getting a little bit bonus. I'm not complaining, God knows.

1:17:04 Is it is it more difficult because when cocaine Cow hard it's like hey hey over here over here is it is it more Listen, if we had to break in now, it would be fucking impossible. wow huge it was viral before viral was with janet jackson she. She got an R, right? She got. She got a DVD-R. A DVD-R. Like, you know, sell the shit at the traffic lights, you know?

1:18:38 In the bootleg market. that one time. It was still great. She was released just before we finished the first one. She's dead now, right? Really? which, you know, one guy in the front driving, one guy in the back with an automatic or semi-automatic weapon. when people start selling cocaine and making millions of dollars and and they credited her with upwards of 200 homicides between Miami, Columbia, New York, and California.

1:21:39 Oh my God. I mean, like these guys in Kings of Miami, they called it like, they called it the company. No, you know, you're not there yet. But like meticulous records. but did it all wisely, and they were not as lucrative, who operated for a few years for five years and then just got out and bought real estate or the floods fucking come We've been following it on the show.

1:24:26 They're fucking, they are destroying. They're so big. We've been documenting all these YouTube channels where people hunt them with bow fishing rigs, He does not eat them. But they're scary. They're not fucking dead. It's petrifying. And they burrow. So you saw episode two, Cooking Cowboys, another deleted scene. He was a 12-year-old kid who was brother,

1:27:28 you know, you grow up Miami. Like I said, we're guilty by geography. If you grow up in that time Jose Canseco is in VIP. bed. And in the middle of the night, two o'clock in the morning, he gets a call and he says, yo, And so it turns out he had to go pick up a load of cocaine. delivering the series to Netflix and and the tragedy But you love it. That's one of the things that I love about you.

1:30:36 It's an uphill battle. For your business. Yeah, because it's like and I'm like what a shitty way of life. It's true, but it's good that just wanted to get the fuck out of New York that's just how they they look like you said you know come for the fuckery right you know stay for Right. Direct hit by, yeah, you know what? One hurricane, and these people are going to head for the hills.

1:33:02 You can't take someone's house. that are old buildings listen, we have like a, You don't even know. They had traffic open underneath it while they were stress testing this brand new bridge. To this day. Boom. under this bridge I will tell you now that happened a few years ago to this university huge public school is it like wait i don't know i don't but they're like they're

1:36:38 Why? It couldn't have been MCM. It couldn't have been these people. they're fixing no punishment. like holes in the concrete he's like look at this shit look at this shit yeah but that's that's all We're basically two feet above sea level, barely. down there it's really that bad um if people think i'm being hyperbolic then why are buildings And like what well first and foremost I mean the the separation between the haves and the have-nots

1:40:25 So that's the first thing is that that is the wealth gap and the income gap. up with this fuck this who's going to take their place the crazy people yelling at the microphone So what do you think he's doing about public education? He's misappropriating our tax dollars Yes, this is unethical Because he's an attorney, he claims that his client list is privileged.

1:43:59 raised four million dollars to run for re-election unopposed in a city of 450,000 people. What's Postolita mean? That's where he can start to influence what's happening in town. Is there any bright lights on the horizon in that wind up being again that's why I say we wind up with swamp favelas you know Well, tent cities are a problem in every single city.

1:46:46 I think there wasn't as many people, and motels for these folks. But I mean, when you're dealing with a place like Austin, you're we exist in these booms and bust cycles. We were on the, the, you know, real estate value, property out of the did it work out of the cone it were we had a little rain at the end but it was just like he's like come come and stay at my house

1:49:35 He did like a weekly thing, like on a weekday, like a Tuesday at this, at the comedy club there. amazing and you could tell he was like he had sniffle like there was something not 100 but he So let's do it. so i'm in the round. Yeah. There's none of that. blow my spot, but there's this place, it's outside. You get irresponsible. Like, if you can get over it, catch COVID and survive and get over it.

1:53:10 Yes. Fucking my way. going to happen. But then the misinformation. What have you seen that they've done? There's a KGB agent and he's breaking down how you destroy America. I mean, you're like, holy fuck, that's exactly what happened. what's the difference? They were the bluer places, not so blue anymore. Yeah, well, what I'm saying is it's evocative. It's not directly, it's not stars

1:57:15 Wow. I did not know that. And if you did, you had to go to the police department and get an ID badge. if you saw the movie One Night in Miami, they had like, it waslife because you had because you had the greatest performers in the world performing in Miami Beach and then being forced into this neighborhood where they they had after parties and after clubs.

1:59:11 That's America. We're two Americas. And so people are just constantly ready to be at each other's throats. And so it's very easy to exploit that. That world of foreign instigated propaganda And they're made in Russiaussia they're made in russia It doesn't doesn't take that much even Miami you just drive down the street people just start fucking fighting with each other

2:01:32 I mean, like in Miami, it's like as simple as it's as simple as the way we drive. Why can't we just learn that this is a shared experience? There's no polio anymore. There are freelance generation gone or the opportunities that provided for the baby boomers how baby boomers fucked up America. called them the people of the year remember when when there was that like mirror, you know, on the cover of Time magazine.

2:04:52 When you take referees out of the equation sometimes, I don't. it becomes harder. I mean, metaphorically speaking, if you look at Main Street America, And we say there's like a compassion gap. you know, the world does kind of treat me different winning the genetic lottery and being born a white man in America. It's having compassion for other people.

2:07:51 a second, these people suffered, you've suffered, America provided, you know, the people of gap, when you talk about this, do you think that better informed about what about every about other people's experiences about it's part of the reason Yeah, you never would have. and what you do on this show meet interesting people and learn different shit and and you know like I said I'm I'm a natural

2:10:11 I need to write sober and edit stones is what I need to, the Carlin approach. the years. But it is taught in some elementary schools. they're inherently biased, using these platforms for their own personal gain and profit, which of there are quite a few people Right. Who don't want to teach that there are institutionally places in this country where people who don't look and sound like you are simply treated different.

2:14:22 But my concern is that teaching children that they're already guilty about things but i know that they're being taught to taught to feel listen we are ultimately share you know viral videos of fuckery you know in florida it's like some of these things are just And I don't know that that's healthy per se. It's like you have this, and again, I don't think there's a bunch of people going out to the, you know, to the horse feed shop or whatever. I don't I think that happened like once or you know, I mean, like there's a one one dude, you know, but like it becomes the go to example. It's kind of the same thing here. It's like there's one person abusing, abusing their authority or their platform as an educator, which I think that there's probably more than one person doing that in,

2:17:18 I was a, I know a lot of people are yelling and screaming about masks, which has nothing to do with, you know, the education of their children. I know a lot of people are, you know, are pulling their kids out of school and going to private schools and charter schools, which is only going to help, you know, expedite the collapse of the public school system, which I think is a bummer because, like I said, I'm a product of it. And there's a real problem in this country when we don't value one of the most important things that a child ever encounters, which is their education. We don't value it. We don't boosting them to the tune of untold fucking

2:19:00 give to the rich that's capitalism when you take from the rich and give to the They moved. And when they talk about rebuilding places overseas and nation building, I mean, but at least it's over. This is where we went. delicious. Yeah, apparently they They're everywhere. this in Miami, it's a lot of this propaganda, which which helps to swing, swing the county

2:22:39 a capital. Well, I hope it's going to be a democracy, but capitalism is not threatened by communism or socialism. right so how do we get out of that i think we vote better we vote better yeah the problem is Well, that's the case in this one. You don't see Louis Farrakhan speaking in the Democratic National Convention. is a genius if they fuck it up he gets second guessed you know for goes for the two-point conversion if they make it the coach is a genius

2:25:41 blindly for that job based on the resumes alone. There was a lot of people that had this feeling about her, that she was this icky insider, better of the two options at that time. But they did. They nominated a moderate. Safe. What are your thoughts on social media and like banning people like Donald Trump from social media? and instantaneously reach millions and millions and millions of people. The question is like,

2:29:34 You know laws and rules that apply only to the government to a private corporation Yes. and Why should Twitter be able to decide for Facebook? the argument about Trump and the Capitol Hill attack. That's where it gets real squirrely with me. But other than that, I feel like the answer to bad speech is better speech. kind of keep it down a little bit or am i to pick him up and use his head to open the back door and toss him out in the alley and say, not in my place?

2:33:31 That's fucking wild. I could probably refuse you service for any reason. exist in my, in my timeline, you know, but the bottom line is, is that the private business if you're a fanatic, I don't really give a fuck if you're left or right or whatever. But when you're dealing with something like Twitter, when you have access to untold millions and millions of people,

2:36:06 for the the internet right people dunking on people it's all normal stuff but there's also That was a website that Brett Weinstein had put together and then Trump gets into office. So they banned it, and they banned it under false pretenses. these buttons and making these decisions and it gets slippery it gets really slippery and i think And here's the thing. I think we agree on all of that.

2:38:54 maybe you can't put So then it just becomes a question of when should the government, which also talk about a slippery slope, Whenever something, you know, gets so big that the government comes in and starts messing with it. maybe you don't necessarily share their opinions, okay I'm just gonna go back with a yo mama joke you know if I can end this I love when people agree to

2:42:11 whatever wear a fucking mask like is that a contrarian perspective no i think it's it's ask you to wear a mask it makes you not be an asshole yeah what's the harm who gives a shit a shield than no shield but and i had a buffet yeah and i just but why is it political why is Dude. This is where we, tyranny is a mask, is a piece of fucking clay. Like, what are we doing?

2:44:49 You know, when they say you have to wear a mask and you wear a mask, you sit down, it's not that hard. Yeah And he's like, vape particles are so much larger than viral particles. a enough of a viral load so you'll barely get sick versus get really sick like who the fuck knows that's actually pretty good about airline travel, these HEPA filters. So Reggie wore these when he was traveling.

2:48:26 I mean, I get it. I don't know that I could pull that off. I have a big head too, though. It's just, I, I, we can only hope that we get out of this with a better sense of health. So if this gets people to say like, you know what? I ate my feelings. We watched movies, you know watch a lot of Netflix. It wasn't that bad went on the apps and, So like I would just order directly from the restaurants and go pick it up or if they had their own delivery service or whatever I could do.

2:51:14 because i went to sleep late last night i'd rather sleep in and then go right to set so yeah so it's Docs cost less Joe Exotic. Look who we got wouldn't succeed on its own merits i'm saying the confluence of circumstances that you refer to It's like, how did you get that? They go, you're doing very, very well. This was years ago. I was like, can I see how your stuff, and I got the, you know, kind of like grimace

2:54:40 bunch of people like we didn't hear anything it launched a a few weeks later. We get a call from like big guy over there. And I said, well, Miami and the American dream they were so brilliant. I don't think they told you anything. So, you know what I mean? They're just like, and what do you care at that point? You know what happened so on cookie the first cocaine cowboys it like it took like three or four years for it to become like like a thing i feel like so first

2:57:32 You know, by the time it gets to CNBC, that's not Young Urban. when it kind of goes around the world and people are like, are sending you your own It's a, And then they figured out how to make you, how about I'll give you the whole series in You're the network executive. when I first got I remember what was it when the wires wire the shield I got you I'm happier here I may not be a one-hit wonder, but I might be a one-trick cowboy.

2:59:34 All right.