Joe Rogan Experience #1711 — Patrick Bet-David Transcript

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0:00 The Joe Rogan Experience. Thank you. Very cool. I know you're just being yourself, but we're glad you are. Well, thank you very much. I'm glad you to piss anybody off. Just being me. We're glad you are. I know you're just being yourself, but we're glad you are. Do you think people can miss that? Like, do you think people can, it. There's a sense of, instead of dealing with the hand that you've gotten and trying to move forward in a positive way and trying to do your best with what you got.

2:26 and fuck them. There's this idea of equal outcome. And what you could say that would argue for that is like, well, democracy, you know, I mean, obviously the Greeks had democracy and the Romans had democracy. AOC or whoever it is. Very high. Yeah. Would that be a good thing or a bad thing? Because we would actually be able to say maybe 80% taxes are

5:06 That's what happened to Obama, right? And he has all this hope and change website, and in the website speaks very specifically about empowering whistleblowers, right? Helping whistleblowers. Meanwhile, when he gets into office, one of the worst administrations ever at punishing whistleblowers. I mean, that's then deletes that cause that what cause it I think it's compromised once you get in there you realize first of all all these ideals that you have if you really did have

6:16 You think it's more a guy who grows up with, let's just say, not money, Kennedy or a Lincoln, let's just say, or a Trump, right? One thing those, say the three have in Then the real power people behind closed doors, let's just say you and I don't know about, the quiet power people. And a guy like JFK clearly had some very strong opinions about positive changes that he could

8:52 kind of have an idea who those guys are? I want to know. Really? It's like Baltimore. Yeah, what it's like in private She's the one that makes all the Jonah Mendez. That good? Yes. and I said, what makes a good CIA agent? It's hard to find people like this. oh, hey, you're president. Guess what? What? Let us show you Area 51. Let us show you all this

12:32 smoky rooms that Bill Hicks talked about. I don't know. I don't know if you should tell Trump where Because if I don't keep my mouth shut, I don't get to see it. whether it's from another galaxy. Yeah. Well I think technically saying is you don't respect the commander in chief of the army. I mean, it depends. Oh my gosh. I have pretty big hands. I shook his hands. You do have pretty big hands. I? Yeah. Okay. They're normal. So that conspiracy's out. Horse shit. Oh, my gosh.

14:29 I was like, how you doing? No. Yeah. I didn't think she was going to win. I didn't think she was going to win. I said, leading up to this, I said, he's compromised. I think 81 million people didn't want Trump to be president anymore. I think that's what it was. to equate to a large amount of money. for the last 50 years that's been consistent, that was just a beautiful thing. Amazing. Unbelievable. Amazing. I thought she would

18:08 She's a congresswoman for eight years. I mean, she's got impeccable character. She's a great spokeswoman. You couldn't get any better. She's a person of color. You couldn't get any When he says things, if you notice his tone, it never goes too high and it never goes low it's very steady and short answers like to the point uses a few amount of words yes yeah it's um they try to make

20:02 You did say if you had a choice between Trump and Biden, you would have chosen uh trump i think i think this is what i said i said I mean, that was just, I thought it was done after that. Like, it's chaos. We're going to go all the way to the White House. Biden's talking about his hairy legs and kids rubbing his legs, and this guy, Corn Pop, talk about the Afghanistan situation, how we handled it.

22:16 foreign policy. He doesn't want to invade these countries and be the police of the world. And I and leave people that assisted the military at the mercy of the Taliban. It's not good. Okay, which was supposed to be move number five, but they made it first I'm going to destroy you, okay? And the guy's one more thing to my family, I'm going to what would have been different? I don't know. I think we would have probably still had some

25:04 Wound up killing someone administration i mean it's just it's a scary way to do war because it's not accurate. Imagine if there is so strong that the support of Biden is almost absolute. Like he has to do something It's not Russia anymore. yeah, it's just a phone call, Okay. So capitalism without law and order does not work. country down, it's not going to be external, it's going to be all internal. I think some's going to

29:21 That was just a publicity stunt. Who's next after that? Jamie, I'm going to send this to you right now. real thing people that have recovered from covid have a natural immunity it's not just But check it out. But because it works on a phone. Natural immunity. But I didn't ask about vaccines. some content that may not meet Instagram's community guidelines.

33:06 to just fuck with it. just because we're already talking about it. The paradox thing? There used to be a time those. So any of the major social media sites, you got the president of the United States, insanely unusual that something like this exists. It's unprecedented. There's never been anything This president. I don't think presidents have as much power as they did before, although they have power.

36:19 goes to Berkeley. Unless if he already thinks the way he thinks at Berkeley, right? Then you got Lifestyles of the rich and famous. going to keep getting more powerful or less powerful? More powerful. and YouTube said they're gonna look at it. I think a couple interviews that I did And within six days that video was taken down. We talked specifically on AIDS where she said even in 84, all he cared about is being a celebrity.

38:27 You know even Robert F Kennedy was taken down recently off of Instagram and this guy's the son of Bobby Kennedy and then he really is So you're not like in any clique. So pisses off a lot of people. him out as well sometime when he does the interviews. I think it's just everybody that agrees together goes to the same club. You're not sitting here saying, I voted for Trump.

40:57 I don't want to spread myself thin. commentary guy, also a comedian, also a father and a husband, also a guy with hobbies. You're And she's like, I've never seen you work this hard. And you've earned a point right now in your life. Renaissance man in America. US Open Taekwondo Championship. When Eddie Bravo went to Brazil I'm actually curious about being challenged in this area.

43:10 I don't talk politics. But so I'm sitting there, I believe, I believe, I may be wrong. I believe Democrats are party over God and country. guy gets out of the office. Versus Republicans are like, yeah, no, I can't vote for him because how they hated him? Do you remember how they charged him? Antichrist is what he called. Yeah, He's shit all over. That's a good question. There's no one in the left today that excites me other than Tulsi Gabbard.

46:38 three and a half trillion dollars he says no did you see what joe manchin told the biden told joe Fucking ad blocker. Even though the only people that they don't like on the left, if you're not a yes person, they have to get rid of you. He became the thing that they would focus on and it generated They're not, right? But what they didn't recognize is that they were giving Trump publicity.

49:48 pushed Trump out. drop. A massive drop. So going back to it, so you think the virtual governments are going to get more powerful? they call it the super saving center of the year. This works if we keep fighting. But I mean, registering as an independent. the mental patients throw shit at each other. And YouTube is where everybody posts videos. I mean,

52:10 And this is a small little by invitation only of people you invite. Some of them have a lot if you sit on a board, you don't do shit. This was like nine, 10 years ago. I said, who put this together? and challenge them to do something Anything short of some sort of regulation, that says that you cannot censor, where they were trying to bring the best candidates from the left and the best candidates from

55:18 from opposing sides that have similar ideologies and morals and ethics and put that they don't like what someone says in your video and ban it. censorship they're like yes censor those people. Get That's not going to change. It's only going to help 100%. You're saying 100%? I would never thought people would be- So did Biden. vaccinated. Now they are saying that.

58:02 were watching them the narrative is so it's so overwhelming that it applies to everything now it applies to the People are just stepping in line. He said, are you taking it? 11 shots in one day, back to back to back. I said, dad, it's up to you. So he ends up getting the vaccine. He got vaccine. I'm sure you're kind of following the story with what's going on with Nicki Minaj.

1:01:09 All right, so she goes up there and she says, because uh she put it out on twitter that i got a call from the white house to go and have and I got a call from White House. And she says, why can't never told you that you're going to be doing this live. Right. Because she tweeted us and I got a call from White House. She's I got two million followers, girl.

1:02:38 Yeah, I think that's who it was. ability to control your movement, what you do and when you do it, if they can put limitations Are you in debt? It's because it's control. It's having the ability to tell people what they can and can't do. Having And it's a fantastic way to control the population. You're not going to have a vaccine passport. Right after Newsom won the election?

1:05:41 Were you living in Bell Canyon? I don't know what you can do at this point. I think what we've got to do is get the people who They really highlighted how it's a real issue so so then if that's the case the question then becomes so I agree. We're going to get off Instagram? We're going to get off YouTube? We're going to protest. I want to protest. Strike. What are we going to do? We're going to get off Instagram?

1:09:00 Rogan, Spotify, I don't know if we can do that. did you think they thought ever that UFC was going to get to the point of boxing, This is your world. And then at the end, the article ends with, if you think these guys are kids and they have it easier than we had it, maybe it just means you're getting a little too old. I think if today we had two YouTubes, we had two Googles, we had two Facebooks that are competing against each other.

1:10:56 I like the fact that the new Droid came out Well, the new phones are exactly the same as their old phones and as soon as I got released everybody's like what the fuck? agree with you you took that conversation and social media I see what you're saying, though. like we've gone over this before, He's an advocate for a Wild West Twitter as well as a regular Twitter.

1:13:41 daunting task and they have to do it with ai they have to do it with AI. They have to do it with New York Post. And that remains like that right now. It would have been closer or if Trump would have even won if they did not do that. Got it. It would be making history. She used to go to Bohemian Grove, put on an owl costume. Anyway, that's a whole different story.

1:16:41 if a fight were to break out and it's a it's a good friend of yours that calls you and you know, if a fight were to break out and it's a good friend of yours that calls you You just seem like the guy that you're a friend. You think the only thing that could be done is some sort of a competition platform. I agree. I think we need competition Yeah. of a 4chan type deal

1:18:50 What Twitter has done is create this environment where hostile dialogue is commonplace. Like the fucking Hitler frogs and all that kind of stuff. What is that? I thought it was a joke to you. I was on Twitter I'm like wait what am I looking at right now? And there's parallels to that and this podcast in a lot of ways. at Jamie Vernon having It was weird.

1:21:21 Fantastic technology. And if it is, why is it only certain amount of why is the porn thing still okay What is the argument for allowing From day one, our mission has been to decrease the demand for porn through education and Right where you were? mental health and more, wouldn't it be Fully agree with you. and if people want to disagree with them, there should be

1:23:58 But that's where the line should be. i like her well i mean obviously she's very talented i think nikki and tucker would be It did at first. here's what happened. Here's where it was released. And she kept getting blocked. That's fauci in front of congress that was a big one when he was questioning fauci about gain of function we we don't like him anymore now that's another one

1:27:26 But do you think that they did that? The 12,000 deaths that he hit, that's a much more egregious offense than doing creepy I agree. But, you know, when you got the President Obama coming in, they're making videos for you and campaigning for you. And there's a lot of my friends. What do you think is going to happen next? Because, All those things are not going to get better.

1:29:57 There's some great people. There's people that are working on homelessness in California that are making a quarter million dollars a year. And nothing's happening. There's no value in fixing this. great. You know, some kind of a message like that, right? First thing I did is I went and saw the the state is asking of folksters. So how do you exist in California if you're a Republican? How

1:32:58 It's not easy for people to move. They're effective at keeping people from getting really sick. take this, whether you're vaccinated or not, and that's going to kill it. That's going to cure it. It's one of the major tools to help us get out of this pandemic. Regeneron. Oh, that's a good point. DeSantis hammers Biden administration for limiting Florida's use of monoclonal antibodies.

1:36:00 Okay. and Human Services alarmed authorities from the supplier. DeSantis is now backing down, though. You heard what he said. If any business forces their employees to take the vaccine, he's given $5,000 fines. Yeah. This is what scares me, You recovered three days later. but it wasn't the worst I've ever felt but i'm in shape I go, get out of that communist shithole.

1:38:18 All my friends in California, I make fun of them. Where? In Kentucky, they were trying to get some and they couldn't. This is what's crazy. and they ended up getting COVID, Jesus Christ. Yeah, but the fact that they asked the question. These are fishermen, right? But an athlete from out of state is allowed to compete. approach. We want, say if you're going to do like, I've got a show at Madison Square Garden,

1:41:45 have this entire room of people thousands and thousands of people that are vaccinated which gives them a certain amount of protection but does not eliminate the idea that they're going to be That's logical. But she's got a different situation. Like I travel with one or two other people I travel my friends we go on like if we're doing a show together

1:43:55 Similar to probably the movie, the sets that they're doing where everybody who's doing shoots, they have to be vaccinated. What if somebody doesn't want to get the vaccine? And, you know, I don't know. I've never seen it. about covid and we said china you said we didn't know at first it was china and then we went to That's foolish talk. And you've got a lot of that right now.

1:46:45 if we encourage communication come from Iran, you come from another country No question. thing. Like this, this virus, this is not good, but we're going to do our best to protect the Yeah, so did Howard Stern. A lot of people did. There's quite a few people that i respect that said that i don't agree with them but i think they're just lashing out I don't want to

1:48:53 wild fucks but they're wild people you could allow people to have freedom. You could still have order. You can be kind to each other. The ability to talk to people No, because you judge people. And it's a way we're taught early on growing up. in the air and it's actually bad for him like oh really oh i didn't know that so i thought that like the fucking kind of phone you use.

1:51:59 I'm just curious. We were required to regularly be comfortable debating. My mother's side, they're communists. My dad's side, they're imperialists. Politically, I said, what makes you think you're coming to my wedding? So I set up an event at the house at the summit in Woodland Hills. And they come to the house He's screaming my name. Yes. But it's classic.

1:54:54 If there was a couple people, who would those two be? Got it. Obama took it one side, and to just have a long-form conversation with him you'd probably want to talk to him alone too, cut through all the bullshit you'd have to cut through all the the showmanship and the persuasion It's not my job. And the guy's running for president, being the president, running a bunch of companies.

1:57:51 I think he would do it. in the way you communicate. you're going to get a little bit of a show. that eliminates future jobs she had a phone on yeah and she was using the recording feature you're done for a job like that. There was nothing there. She's on my side. got for a few years about uh you know pakia he yes avoided the fight etc etc and i love what

2:00:45 It doesn't even look like boxing. He can't do that on a podcast though. between two people discussing ideas? This is just not working right just even as the audience watching it from the audience that are asking some questions. we're talking about it on some media platforms, Invite Me, I want to talk about it. Then people came in and they said, I'll match a half a million dollars. I'll give $100,000. We raised around six and a half million dollars, right, to do this. What do you call it? This sit down with Obama and Trump.

2:03:50 because both sides are still hanging on to it? Here's one thing I'll never, That's what I'm saying, though. just talk over him he would just interrupt and and and that was a real problem i think By the way, the Trump in the second debate with Biden was smooth. you're fired shut the fuck up this is what you tell the china listen motherfucker you're gonna

2:06:35 loss because he doesn't believe it's a loss i understand but it's still a loss though it's I think he believes it. Okay. You think that's what he's saying? when they're in their prime, they are fucking savages. I mean when he put that on Twitter that is hilarious. He is without a doubt the funniest president of all time It's hilarious. He would probably say that.

2:08:33 There's no one like Trump. I mean, that's fucking. No one wants to give anybody credit. I think what just happened right now, And, you know, I think there's going to be some serious animosity still. How about we do it? like to have like that's why i think it's a good one if trump and obama were running against each leading for who's going to be the presidential candidate, right?

2:11:05 Okay. Yeah. I think he's going to go to PAX and talk radio. I don't think he's a one. Maybe Dan Crenshaw. By the way, he's fifth on the list right now when they're saying who they want. I really believe that. You think DeSantis is okay being a VP? where the Trump is a calm, cool demeanor, Sequencing. Well, he's a guy I would know. There was a couple of other guys involved.

2:14:12 Biden, if Biden stays till the very end, them two going up against Trump and DeSantis. wait a minute, this guy's muscular. So then I realized he can't be your governor. So with that But who says that? But what does that mean? It's a crazy team if they team up together. population, the numbers are actually better than the numbers for California, which is-

2:16:50 I did Fort Lauderdale, then I did Tampa, then I did Orlando. any way not to do it it's not supposed to be that way. but Tony had already had natural But Laura was pretty sick. You said the left thingsees should never laugh. you should be able to communicate with people that have opposing viewpoints or different viewpoints. Every time I see him, I hug him.

2:19:28 Yeah, always touching. Aster, fascinating. And then I said, so let me ask you, if it's so great, when's the last time you've been in Russia? Isn't that accurate? work. I said, tell me when it works. He says, it's about pumping up the collective and not Steve Jobs is a terrible, he was a, you know, all these guys, the creators, Elon Musk, Greedy, Still.

2:22:47 and then she was asked the next day because she got trashed for it i don't know if you saw the You know, she goes in. of richness. See why. But how funny is that But how funny is it that they put that missing context? That seems a lot of money. No. He says, I'm going to. Yeah. Hope you do well. Always. I love excellence. I'm a connoisseur of excellence you lift people up

2:26:04 They're looking at it through a distorted lens. 100% undistorted by your own ideology, might be the greatest sprinter of all time like look look at that motherfucker go. God damn he's good. I do. Even if they keep them, you can let them go. So maybe let's take this opportunity to give credit to the sexiest man alive according Yeah. I guess you just take a couple seconds.

2:28:44 I'm going to give you something a little more than a Fauci doll. Is this real? Gary Delabate? It's a sexy guy right there, though. Really? All right, it just went up a little bit. Today, his street credit for his baseball card just went up with Fauci. How much is it worth? Okay, can I shock you with some numbers if that's okay with you? He's got a card, but it's probably not in the top 1,000 of the most expensive.

2:31:08 His PSA 10 1952 Tops rookie card. Really? From 104 to player. I was going to ask. You got a card with the- The card industry today is booming. Next thing you know, it jumped to a couple of them sold for $700,000. It takes 12 months for you to get graded. It was all over the place. By the way, if you did, you'd probably, in the next 12 months, make $5 million.

2:33:48 So somebody owns that NFT. the guy that bought a Beeple, Super prolific. Yeah. Okay, this guy. People are trying to buy the best virtual real estate means what? Like you have virtual real estate. People are trying to buy the best virtual real estate. Remember back when I asked you guys about the metaverse a few weeks ago? he knows what he's doing, you probably got $10 million of NFTs you could sell the next 6 to 12 months.

2:35:35 I mean, I guess you probably could, but you just mostly downloaded them for free. For 100 bucks, you get- I understand that. It's like, why is my Apple watch different Do you have any? Yeah. Well, I've got. But he's. Yeah. He's got fucking gold chains for hair. He said he'll hook you up. Gold dreadlocks all over my head. Hair implant on me. Oh, yeah, that's right. Remember that?

2:38:46 It's, yeah, not really getting metal hair. Oh, I don't even want to think about it. and all that kind of stuff. You're fully not open to the NFT stuff. no not you're not interested no why is that it's a $341,000. I don't understand. that end up looking like someone, This is what doesn't make any sense to me. Images comes back and says, you have to pay $500 for this or $1,000 for this or whatever it is,

2:41:43 So they could sell that. You can make an album. Whatever. You think? That makes a little bit more sense. It would be such a test just to see. A lot of people have asked me to tweet their NFT sales. How'd I get involved in doing your show? How did I get involved with doing my show? do with this. I said, okay, cool. So we started a channel and it was called Two Minutes with Pat,

2:44:22 We called it value attainment and the main focus became capitalism and business. So we changed the channel. We called it Valuetainment. And the main focus became capitalism and business. Then while we're taking a break, life is peaceful. I want to know what makes them tick. which is a complete separate channel than the Valuetainment channel. It's very separate.

2:46:04 subscribers but on the podcast we started fresh and on there. That's got a few million subscribers. recorded. It's just a good dinner, a good conversation. So then the idea came about, That was a big part of how the podcast came about was because I have these friends that are fun to just hang out and talk with. And, you know, I've always been so fascinated by this idea of lost civilizations.

2:48:23 and some of the things that have happened to the world, There was like a reset that was probably due to impacts. Amazing, amazing stuff. I'm pretty sure. like three and five screaming at each other, having fun. No. And then let me hear him talk about a similar thing. Got it. It's very weird when it comes down to stuff like that. and then we ended up becoming friends.

2:51:56 Oh, the assassination? He was one of the guys, one of two that held JFK's brain, Jim Jenkins. fascinating with clint hill uh and then it led to many other guys that we had but uh you know It was a 35-minute interview. Am I saying the name correctly? Ronnie Coleman's amazing. of how certain people make it to certain levels in life And then the interview does very well.

2:54:27 And then he just went off. So he's like, he's not at this, he's not at this. Anyways, so we ended up- Keep going. And then there he shows up. to me. So, you know, and then accidentally different topics show up, you know, that Iran became very interesting to me because of the life I lived and what happened with Jimmy Carter after he did the toast on December 31st of 77.

2:56:15 And then you realize in 1954, the guy signed a 25-year deal with Germany, with the UK, Well, I'm interested in things that people are passionate about. I mean, I've had a better education from doing this podcast over the last 11 years than anything I read a lot, you know, like it depends on like if I have guests that are coming in and they have something that's heavy that I have to get into.

2:58:34 uh i just go on instinct you know like uh if someone comes along like there's a woman So for me, I felt like that was one of those conversations are like well joe can't talk about this joe can't talk about that's not true i would actually say No, they've been amazing. And I love that. want workplace you know they're gonna they're gonna go to a different place option wise spotify

3:01:00 Like someone who's talking about, like Robert Kennedy, who has differing opinions about vaccines, They have a different sensibility. at the top or no? they would have, I just announced it. demonetizations of videos that were arbitrary. It didn't make sense. Like my friend Tom Papa, The moment I leave to Spotify, there was a three month period where I was on both YouTube

3:03:19 I think it encourages people to self censor so that you don't get demonetized. You hold back because you don't want to miss out on that money. Of course not. interested. You gotta be able to talk about things that are controversial. You gotta be able to, What feedback do you give to them both short-term, mid-term, and long-term? No. that they've discussed.

3:05:28 And they are evolutionary biologists. Which is fantastic for them. If they can tell one guy, shut the fuck up, don't talk about ivermectin, or shut the fuck up, don't talk about Fauci, or shut the fuck up, don't talk about the election, they can do whatever they want. This is how weird it's got. Great feedback. I'm getting a real value out of it. just to be a absolute rock solid fact like here's a fact it absolutely iphones are made at the foxconn

3:08:31 That's good feedback. Oh, dude, it's fascinating. don't know if you remember that interview with Trump with that one lady yes older attractive Yeah, the cat videos are fine. It's crazy. They love you. Well, it's... I saw that, yeah. doing that they're just they're just outrage mongers credibility you wonder like does it It's people like you is the problem.

3:11:39 Maybe it was even Bob Woodward. What the fuck is that? I agree. debates. That's the only reason. they're everywhere they they destroy biden in florida with the flags but trump's everywhere in this country. supposed to love each other. We can have a difference of opinion about politics and finance and all sorts of different things, but still recognize that we

3:14:37 This polarization and the fucking conflict that the algorithms encourage. And obviously, same as yours, man. I appreciate you about it.