Joe Rogan Experience #1713 — Mike Baker Transcript

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0:00 Joe Rogan Podcast, check it out! We turn to you. This place is falling apart. you probably got exposed to COVID somewhere along the line recently. You said you had a day where Very virile. So I'd have to assume at some point, yeah, I got exposed. It's like, and it's, there's so many things that are fucked up about this, Yes. I think if they were going to give him a booster shot,

3:09 They want to make sure you don't, you know, fall down. She's like, go ahead, take it. She's been very quiet. It's under control. Certainly closer. Into Panama, yeah. and I'm looking for asylum. But now it's, you can pass through any country and then get to America Did he not even watch that? No, it's not true. that picture is i want to know what happened immediately before and what happened after but

6:51 That's not fact. That's just a lie. proclaiming these things but she said because... It's too effective? Well. Oh, she didn't say because of the optic, but she said because. Those are reins. Right. Exactly what it They had Secretary of Defense Lloyd Austin. How about some pushback? It's just a shit show. But now because it's all theater, now they get to sit in a hearing in front of some of the senior military commanders and act as if they're a little bit surprised by all of this. And oh my God,

11:39 So he can take all that advice. Have you seen that? But there was a soldier, and she had made a video, and if they were watching these hearings and understanding the information flow about Afghanistan look they say, we think you should be keeping troops in there. And the president then steps away. And Well, that was when the Trump administration made a deal with the Taliban in February of 2020,

15:11 reaffirmed that, yes, there were seven conditions for that agreement to follow through, for us to But that's where they were. after 20 years. conditions. So it had been explained to the Taliban that if that was the case and you don't was always flawed. And there was never really any evidence to show that that was going to happen. you know, in a sense, right? We'd be drawing back, pulling out some resource, pulling out troops,

19:01 keep getting money. We're not going to keep getting advisors. And we're not going to happen. We're not going to keep getting money. We're not going to keep getting advisors. And we're not going to get the air support that is really the only thing that keeps some of the material was decommissioned. Some of the heavier platforms were made non-functioning.

20:20 Why not spend three or four months was that without the troops in there, once you take the U.S. troops out and the money, He's just saying 11. So you could argue that what should have happened was years ago. Like, it's impossible to manage. Like, Kabul is essentially the only real city, right? Write that down. Let me see what the spelling on a fiefdom.

23:52 so they keep it open, so it's possible. You know the Pentagon has repeatedly stopped short of saying it will boot troops for refusing the shot. religious exemptions good quote down here. talking to a high-value target. I want you to fully understand the decision you're making right here. Go. I'm going to put that down. before they'd finished this whole process, right? So I guess one of the things is this is very layered. And again,

26:57 Okay. So the Democrats are using it because, well, we were boxed in. We had no choice. leave. So again, it's the process of leaving. It wasn't the decision to leave. It was the process Yeah, there were. Did things happen that shouldn't have had to happen? me with intelligence. Well, now that's counter to his best interest in a sense, right? Because he's

31:07 This feeds into this talk now that's become the favorite phrase in Washington of over the horizon capability, which means conducting operations from a distance because you don't have resources within that area of operations. In a very pragmatic sense, yes. because, you know, there's always hubris involved, we thought we're going to do better. That was very poetic.

34:03 blame other than your own self or your party. Well, I think they have to, very, very important, right, for the presence. It almost becomes, at that troop level, almost And if you look at... And so you had the retrograde of the military operation, and then you had this evacuation, right? In this case, you're moving people and you're moving stuff, right? And I just think that

37:16 matter of a couple of weeks, you have to plan for the worst case scenario. That's your job. Yeah, what the fuck was that? but at some point someone thought the right message was to just go be inclusive and everything, just from an operational perspective. You want an Intel when woke talk at all these factors that make this United States a wonderful place with all these different

41:06 And you've seen that in corporations are running into this problem to the end of time until we're in for the mob. You're never pure enough for the sort of embedded itself in our universities and then now it's made its way into corporations When the Soviets used the phrase ideological subversion, what do they mean by it? in the language of the KGB, or psychological warfare.

45:47 American patriotism. You cannot change their mind. Even if you expose them to authentic information... Most of them, yes. Unlike in present United States, there will be no place for dissent in future Marxist-Leninist America. Here you can get popular like Daniel Ellsberg and filthy rich like Jane Fonda for being dissident, for criticizing your Pentagon.

48:26 2013, so. Desmonov. 82? 85. But we're fucked, you know, I was watching this video on my favorite right? The Chinese intel services is actually much more patient than the Russians even. But that? Oh Soviet Union. a wedge, right? And so they understand that if you can create chaos or ratchet up the pressure, an argument, right? right in front of them, right? They just read their Twitter feed or they read something on YouTube

53:19 to figure out how did this thing originate? do they give a fuck who wins? Not really. They just want to create the chaos and the distrust This is what the problem is. He's very informed. revisiting anything because it doesn't, again, it doesn't and then that's my opinion. I think I'm pretty sure I got my guy right. That's like one of the big theories about a lot of the stuff that happened during the 1960s, right?

56:21 Is that correct? And so once again, you're left with a dwindling center. Five times the speed of sound. Why is that important? It's because whoever develops this capability first on the planet basically has defeated all air defense systems, which in the past were always designed for ballistic missiles. And it's where a lot of, a lot of, we're talking about where money goes.

59:27 Science Channel, Black Files Declassified, hosted by Mike Baker. Holy shit. The money funds classified programs, projects, operations, and tech developments. Are you going to tell people what's going on with UFOs? They look tiny. Get that look on his face. Are they like armed? Now, the goal, ultimately, is to get those to think on their own, right?

1:02:38 We're not in Afghanistan anymore, apparently. I mean, it gives you a tremendous advantage just from the recon, the surveillance point of view, And they didn't tell you? You don't have to come back to wherever you're staging. And they fly to and just stick onto it or something like that? And that's the case with just about everything nowadays, Now, I'm not letting you off the hook with UFOs, but I want to get to this.

1:06:19 And now they're fucked because they changed the name of it. a pharmaceutical company thinking they're going to go over and somehow protect their R&D When Saga was explaining it, it's a stunning story. you get screwed, right? It doesn't matter to them, right? Because they win in the end. where you get screwed right doesn't matter to them right because they win at the end

1:08:39 Because they are the electronic backbone of the new economy. They're calling it the semiconductor heist of the century. the entire U.S. economy can grind to a halt without these things. It was called ARM Holdings. and designs for the next decade. Well, it's basically been stolen now by the Chinese with So despite the fact that the company wants him gone,

1:11:38 Now they say they are China's largest CPU IP supplier. So that's it. It's over. They control Oh, you got cigars. And although the thing Is it really? If you take a company over there and you build facilities, you are giving up intellectual property. The Chinese regime is what it is. And certainly under Xi, who has strengthened his position How does that so simple... I mean, that seems like such a simple takeover that they did

1:15:09 I know that's a lot of money. Yeah, but it's not a lot of money. And with China, I've seen a lot of bad due diligence done over the years. are keen to get an investment done, right? Usually when you're talking about an investment, right? You never have complete control in a commercial sense. million dollars let's get on board yeah like wouldn't it be this is where it's going to sound

1:18:54 in Tahoe, and they are thinking about getting a private jet, and they're thinking about you know, industries to do well. But France or a variety of other countries around the globe, in doing business, in pitching for business overseas, whether it's licensing, whether it's Yeah. And you're right to be worried because we're not talking about something... People imagine that because the previous administration under Trump, because they banged on about China, you know, over the past four years, that somehow it's a new problem.

1:22:39 and highlighting the idea of theft of intellectual property. It was a much more of the food chain. And it seems like at this point in time, this is what scares me, that one of the only ways promoting and helping and advising and providing support, it exists, right? And I don't know that What does that mean, though? Go elbow grease. I changed the name some time ago when I bought the company back from the previous investors.

1:26:11 the problems you're going to deal with. Because there's a lot of people who are invested in making an app on your phone that you need at all times. Is that a good thing? this data be collected and used as part of your credit report? Survey says artificial intelligence can either gain or lose access to credit Yeah, depending on your digital footprint.

1:29:29 And I think this moves you one more step closer to a social credit score system, which I'm So it's already happening. of purpose. And I think people have gotten so blasé about their information. And in part, you can get this house if you let us look at your browser, or you can get that They're probably going to try to clean up their fucking computer.

1:32:38 The same way, one of the things that I heard argued about Facebook, which is really fascinating, entirely based on the fact that they have access to your data. is a revenue stream. That's where you're giving up all your information. googles and it's the amazons and it's the others who have been busy for for years and years just Right, right. You've got, you know, in certain parts of like DARPA and some parts of the government,

1:36:30 and they're not doing it Which brings me back to UFOs. Some of this is just like covering up for the fact that How much of this is just covering up that there's some insane technology that they have a handle on? This is what it is. You know what that is? device could contain and sustain Thank you very much. And Dr. Peiss, the government did investigate his

1:40:54 Yeah. But one thing that we seem to be learning is that it's a rare day when funding is allocated to something and then stopped, right? Usually that money then is shifted or the program morphs or the idea or the theory or the testing moves into some other area. it's What the fuck does that mean? You just said it. the question. But to go back to your original question, it is one of the most fascinating parts about this right now is why the Pentagon decided to sort of set the table with opening up about AATIP as an example.

1:44:15 best way for us to explain it is just simply by saying, well, of course we're going to be looking So what we're hoping to do is sit down with them and say, okay, why exactly? system that they're working on right now? or whether it's wherever it may be. But that's Bob Lazar then, right? and that testing was being conducted as recently as September of 2019.

1:48:04 and it had gotten out there and had been in the press and had been enough stories about it And again, it comes back to the idea of competition. could what Fravor have seen been something that we were testing and developing? You know, Right. Right. over the country like, you know, the sighting of bald eagles Yeah, and we know from, exactly, and we know from other, you know, materials from OSAP

1:52:00 that leads you to wonder, okay, is that because they're home-based there, whatever the technology is, whatever platform we're testing, whatever it may be? We'll just keep moving on. on these crazy fucks. In short order. If you think about that condensed period of time going from, Yeah, my 10-year-old boy, Muggsy, picks up and it's like a part of his body, right?

1:54:09 Yeah. You can learn a second language very easily. Can I confirm or deny? But one of the more confusing things about it and So when they're talking about this stuff, I'm always wondering if they're preparing us for the implementation of some technology that they've been developing that they can now say they don't have control over and they could use it to their advantage.

1:56:32 If you layer on top of that our old traditional nuclear systems, I don't know where I'm going with this, we seem to think that's a remote possibility and the idea that technology might outpace There's another people on the other side of it that say, It's like yeah, so many things you can't't predict in terms of the flip communicator thing. Yeah. No, no screen,

1:58:48 Well, and again, if you think about the intersection You're talking to your phone. down to zero, right? Huawei to sell their phones in the United States. Right. Right. I mean, it's again, you just, and process it fast enough, so we've got to get the machines in there. Getting out He's saying that through Neuralink You're going to be able to stream music into your head So like you seen that, Jamie? He's saying that through Neuralink, you're going to be able to stream

2:02:02 of... Everything's exponential. The pace I try to. And I'll tell you why. that we had the release on the WikiLeaks of Vault 7, right? All the hacking tools that got broke it, but it's only been in the past day and a half or two days or whatever that, And he was only on like the second floor, right? But so he's there. you know, uh, it doesn't condone, uh, the, uh, cause you know where I stand on people like Manning or Snowden.

2:06:28 Because if Snowden released something that showed that the NSA was involved in something that's unconstitutional and completely illegal, go and i know that people say i couldn't it couldn't happen i think releasing that information I just can't get myself there. The United States- WikiLeaks and Assange, Could we, you know, whatever. is it to punish anybody else

2:09:37 One was that he was actually working to help, remember, Manning, now Chelsea Manning, to facilitate. But publishing, you could argue, okay, that's a journalistic role. And they were lying about it. But the story itself is insane. you think they're punishing him do you think like but by by continuing to But part of it is at a certain point, moving from the Obama administration to – because you have to remember all the various sort of parts here. You have the Democratic email releases, right?

2:13:33 Like why do you think they would work with WikiLeaks to release the Clinton emails? it was whatever, 40 years ago, they're still doing it and they're still finding it to be successful. It was a heavy lift. And then I'll go to that person's Twitter page and I'll see, what is this? Like how many of these fucking things are out there because they know that there's

2:16:30 ways. Right. My uncle used to have one on a We got lost in the idea that it was because they wanted Trump to win or they wanted, you know Clinton to win or they want Because I mean, you have to take it into consideration, right? One of the things we covered on my sci-fi show way back in the day was this idea of a bioweapon, about using some sort of a manipulated virus that gets out into the general population and wrecks havoc.

2:19:38 his bedroom and this is crazy and it's overreach or it's being abused, rather. it's crazy how much they've been divided and what scares the shit out of me is i've got to think I spent part of my childhood there. I think they were hosting. No, it's true. It really is like that. Yeah. So I'm shocked by the way that it's taking place. years has been insane because it's just automatically, if it emanated from the

2:22:39 But do I think that it was designed and released deliberately? because they come out and go, on something this specific, Yeah. much less what hopefully will come out fault. It's because of the previous administration agreeing to this Doha agreement. And that's how Nobody wants to make a brave decision because they're all worried about getting elected

2:26:53 is either about not creating transparency But the China thing I think is, in my mind, there's no doubt it's the lab. It's like trying to get intel on the Iranian nuclear program or anything else. It seems like the pandemic was particularly effective at dividing Americans. information, right? You know, it's pretty impressive. something there. You know, let's focus on some misinformation there to drive that wedge in

2:31:13 I have no idea what anybody's thinking about that. It's encouraged because people pile on, they're with you on it and they're rewarded for this with likes and clicks. the people who claim like, oh, I used to be a Republican, but now I just see. Get that dopamine hit. Because, like, when someone says the election's a fraud, and you go, oh, Jesus, do I pay attention to this?

2:33:07 well, that's an interesting story, so I'll pursue that. Right. Or you don't have any sort of intrepid investigative journalists going, okay, well, Right. You know whether you're trying to get him to buy cigarettes or whether you're the Russians and you're trying to create more dissension on certain issues, but I love getting together with them. We hang out.

2:35:36 people, they find comfort in groups and they also like to gang up on people that don't agree with I guess I was really disappointed. I keep going back to the same Armed Services Committee hearing They were all trying to make their own fucking point, which is always going to happen, which, again, I don't know why I was surprised, but it's it's inevitable.

2:37:24 Great. conversation. What's encouraged is people with radical ideas that attack the other side, that attack the likes for my fucking post and I don't know what the fuck I'm talking about, but I'm going If you had to, like, I don't want a rosy, rose-colored glasses view of the world. We've hardened our positions because of a variety of reasons, right?

2:40:22 Can you envision anybody allowing that to happen? they've been there for 35 or 40 years. And you think, what the fuck are we doing? And they're And anybody that comes along that's reasonable, that's a third part. They said they were using bots. and that all resources that would have voted for Biden I mean, it's not as if Twitter is not involved in active measures, right, in their own way.

2:43:25 he's saying that his father got 50% of all the stuff he got. I have to kick 50% up to the big Right. So, Yeah. If I was a dude who did a lot of coke and I had a bunch of money, I might be interested Come on. Well, this is a story that came out,'ve hung some of it in the White House. What? Yeah. Come on. Yes. Some of it's really interesting. It looks like something you and I could easily do.

2:45:33 looked at the Jackson Pollock and I looked at my dad and the tour guide was standing So it's photograph and then paint mom's office, so technically it's in Hunter Biden for the studio? Oh, Yeah, he's blowing through it. He looks happy. That art is not bad. Do you think they're hard to get? I think he's having an exhibit here soon. I'm not NFT No No with the NFTs Do you think they're hard to get?

2:47:23 Because then it hung in your studio here. Wow. or details of the sales. Interesting. They're giving them a free pass. See if you can scrape up a half a mil. I got to say, it's not bad. What do I know? No, you're right. Well, they reached out initially. I'm sure. And oddly enough, he's not the first person to take advantage of a family name I would be pushing that shit out.

2:50:48 But it's coming up. but after the holidays. Appreciate you, sir. Bye.