Joe Rogan Experience #1730 — Cameron Hanes Transcript

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0:00 the Joe Rogan experience one in the Colorado was so quick the one in Santa Barbara was definitely a mountain lion because of Like big, thick-ass forearms. Really? You know It's weird to watch it's like cuz you don't think something that big can move that fast and say, you know, free meat. And people love it there because there's a lot of people who

4:26 I haven't had any of it yet. and it's just they still taste good, and they're just shit meat. have that purpose because i even i there's all sorts of advantages to working out yeah for a lot of fighters they have George St. Pierre isn't as good a shape as he's ever been in. That's what he had said, but people always say that. What a card that is. Like, pull up the whole card so we can see it because it's crazy.

7:40 I like him, though. And I think that fight opens up the main card. Edmund Shabazian. I have no idea. Nasordine. Jean Valente. I don't know these guys. fight another one is always sometimes they have a big New Year's card as well. yeah and then you got Marlon Yeah. That was a big fight for him. I was impressed with Usman the last time against Colby.

11:25 destroyed he actually had um they do this particular type he talked about it on the that was today. I get that he would want to do that for the money, fights that's available for Canelo Canelo has a much better resume in terms of the guys he's beaten. No. shattered. I think shelf that holds the eyeball in God, and that's with those big boxing gloves.

14:41 He caught Billy Joe leaning down, They stopped it in between rounds. throw bombs and they're they're so they're concentrating so hard on connecting with a big shot G too like he developed these kind of defensive skills that he never had before and they keep yeah it looks good yeah but i've seen him pop it out i have too it's an article yeah i mean I think at the championship level, like the true champions,

17:30 loss ever in his entire mixed martial arts career has run through everyone in his division including He hurt him in the first round. I think when Masvidal took that first fight, he took the first fight on short notice. nate diaz in that fight and masvidal is a bad motherfucker and a very clever fighter. He's one of my favorite guys to watch fight No.

19:33 he used to be down in South Florida and then he made his way. He's got three fighters in the main card. That's pretty crazy. That shows you how good I use his gloves to hit the bag. I've seen, I've watched some stuff on him, He's a fun guy. seeing on interviews um you know there's drama going into train and and he just wanted to get He has incredible skill level.

22:24 They told him. And it changed his trajectory of his career. just being as nice as can be. respect uzman you know i'm like as a fighter he's like no so he wouldn't even i mean he's sticking but five years from now, if he decides to go to pro wrestling, It's going to be an amazing fight. came to champ champ and he got mad he goes where the fuck's me other belt where the fuck is me

25:14 It made no difference. for different reasons though, they more feel bad wrong. And it's sad. And it's not fair. rodman's a trumper he's a trumper that's not what i said what i said is i would vote for trump before So I'm just going to tell you what's going on. Like, where was he, Justin? And it's so important you're falling asleep as they're speaking about it.

27:34 The guy runs over. By the way, I would fall asleep at that shit, too. That would be me, too, right next to him. I mean, it's not fair. But he's our president. No, but so I thought you were going to say like how much sway does a president have? But it seems like it's just a free fall right now. They were like, we're going to make sure that people have paid leave, paid paternity leave.

30:08 They can't get anything through. You ever see how big the bill is? Yeah. it's like there's no way anyone's reading it no one of the republicans a republican senator held it up and he was like saying like do you think why why is that bad if it's good for the country it seems like okay well hey we can get better we The Biden administration blocked the release of the JFK papers.

32:45 100%. Not yet. that's relevant to our understanding can't know all there is to know about it. I don't even know who that is. the dumbest fucking theory. Went through two people, broke bones. Yeah, generally credited to him is what this says. I was like, oh. They mushroom out, and there's a fine line between basically coming apart to where the You need to shut your fucking mouth because that's something that was shot into a swimming pool

35:54 But yeah, like modern bullets. except the magic bullet. But one of the reasons why they had to come up with this theory that this one bullet did so much damage is they had to account for three gunshots. And so one bullet blows a hole through Kennedy's head. Like it ricocheted off the back of his skull. and then come out. And there was more damage. You're under arrest. You're under arrest

38:43 Dallas, it was Why would they do that? Bullshit. That was the first time anybody had ever seen it outside of those folks. Themselves has said that you're lying he's been on him and with all due respect, you do not know what you are talking about. This is, you funded gain of function research. What is that? Should be illegal. He is when he gets to my fucking phone.

42:21 And so they would introduce you as controversial. It used to work. because there's so much censorship and these They would try to make it so that you will not make money if you talk about alternative And it's scary scary and the same thing Yeah. Like you can't not tell people about the negative response that some Show all these people with compromised immune systems.

45:54 You know, and now they have until January 4th. it's like, man, it's tough. if they get a vaccine and I can't go places. Like we're going to be in New I got antibodies. I have it. Like my antibodies are better than people's antibodies if they get a vaccine. When you go to Jersey, we're going to go to Jersey tomorrow for dinner. And they're all fine.

47:19 How crazy is this? I forgot I sell them. Well, this guy puts various masks on and blows through these masks with the vape so you can see. And I had it on and I could barely breathe. hey, you got to have a mask be doing anything. It might help a little. whatever the fuck it is thing on your face. Is this the first one? It's coming out everywhere. But it goes sideways.

50:16 I would like to see, like, real data. that they're saying things sticking their neck out that are risking their livelihood you know it's just the censorship is Remember they think that's part of the QAnon thing. They think that JFK Jr. is some guy, and they thought he was at the Capitol Hill thing. I'm kidding. They're like, what to do? Isn't this where they'd have the undercover FBI guys, too, though?

52:20 Fucking dummies. Oh, let me see that shirt. But so on the opposite side of this is the liberals. to agree to that thing and then they get in an echo chamber and they they fucking just yell at have been around there's been people who i don't know it's just isn't that strange about our species very existence. Yeah, I guess so. Bunch of bitches. We need wolves in the streets.

55:32 says he says he asked people if they would take 10 million dollars if you know what you could you Yeah. yeah and then they got another chance yeah but you always had that you always had yeah this life they see people that are daring that take risks they attack them they hate on them and that's That's the thing, they could. and it's fat and doughy, You won't be running when you're 40, you won't be doing this. You won't be doing that because

59:43 Yeah. yeah but and they say you know I mean where the change happens it's like being consecutive days of training, that's good, but it's over years. Not very many people do it for years. You know what I mean? Everybody goes, they get all fired up, energized to do something, then that drops off. They might do it back. Yeah. I mean, but if you can just continue to put in the work, punch that time clock for your life,

1:01:00 And even if the old patterns is just eating cake how you learn and that's how you continue to go that's how you continue to move forward yeah some a lot of people won't do that, you know, I like, it keeps me normal. people lose it we talked about fighters retiring then they lose that like what like the hungry people are the people that don't have anything and so they're trying

1:04:47 It's always the same. I do live podcasts and live UFC broadcasts, things that make people nervous. beyond good shot under pressure you know and the feeling of making a good shot is beyond description like it's so hard for us to explain to someone what it's like to like center that pin on the vitals And you don't get a chance to do it again. You get shot there's one shot the animal's there right you line up the shot and you think about all those

1:07:18 just pound right through that shoulder and I'll get his chest. Didn't happen. You hit a bone dead on. Hit the shoulder dead on. It broke his shoulder And you've got to figure out what to do. And you can get a 300 score. And if you hit right on the X, that's a certain amount of arrows and you can get a 300 score. And if you hit right in And you're also in this situation where there's these wild instincts that live inside all of us because we all come from hunters.

1:09:26 You feel its life is tugging on that line. Okay, now we're eating. That was the thing. And I think it's more intense because it's a mammal. and that's all I used to hunt is deer. And they're not going to live forever. Yeah. Yeah. They got to eat almost all the time. She was all skin and bones. Like you're saying, they have to eat every day, all day.

1:13:36 The herd takes off. There's no easy death in the wild. compared to animals i mean we're smart enough to figure out weapons which is really what did it for four comorbidities yeah but but that's what i'm saying is like you you can turn diabetic because They're not pushing their body and making it more resilient and making it tougher. no yeah they want you to do what they do but they don't want to do what you do yeah exactly

1:17:03 That you only lose like a pound a month. Right. Don't worry about the fact that 78% of the people that get hospitalized for COVID or How about both? It's, yeah. It's so strange. Yeah. Can you be in good shape? Is that, the shot i i it's how about both it's yeah so strange And you can take that supplement. Look how healthy you are. Yeah. That rock, yeah.

1:18:56 You had a video of you putting a rock in a backpack. I don't know what happened to it. That shit is hard, dude. Yeah, so it's like, And they do a lot of stuff where they show, like, purposely, like, you don't really need Have you done? You ever do those? But, you know, it's definitely better to have a gym, without a doubt. but you can get a great workout without them.

1:20:45 outside. And because once I've done that, it's like, I mean, to me, I always feel like that's Yeah. A lot of people can't. No. But they can. You're like, you already, like a lot of fighters have done that where they get to a point where The wake-up call is if you really want to be the best of the best, Sleep is important. have a heart attack and die. Yeah. Why are about me well because they see a guy like you that's

1:23:36 Yeah. Yeah. but I'm stretching, I'm doing something. And so if I'm really wrecked, I can still sit in the sauna Physically, I've never felt better. Dude, I tell you what. fucking duh. No. So I'm like being a big baby and got out. Yeah. It's fun. I don't know why. because you feel like shit but you get in that ice bath. Well, I took Rhonda the first time she experienced that.

1:27:17 250. scientist yeah and to experience that rush yeah yeah she was like oh you know it's like it's she was I did three minutes and 40 seconds. And I probably would have stayed in longer, but my legs were shaking so bad I started getting nervous. I didn't know how expensive those were. You don't have to do it that way. And they say even just breathing deep is good for you.

1:29:25 God, So I was going and I set the thing and then I just, like 20 right 20 oh my god i think it was it was a little more than 20 i did 20 one day yeah and it checking to make sure that I was alive. are like kind of shaky a little bit yeah it's cold but i was doing breathing exercises while i was doing it that's I'm tightening up my abs and my core and I'm squeezing with my chest and my shoulders.

1:31:37 And when I hit three minutes, my vision was shaky. And I know that sauna's right there waiting for me. I close my eyes and it's like I'm tripping. oh my god you feel amazing everything feels incredible I wish everybody could yeah I mean He's like, I have no, I'm nothing. She's 11. then learning that you can get better you work harder like that's so important for kids and

1:34:57 yeah i mean i it's not like i enjoy failure but it's always losing it's getting smacked like no one, it's not like no one is perfect at the thing that they like to do right away. Never forget it. There's nothing a guy can do about that. Yeah, she quit at mile 60, I think. Yeah. It's a genetic thing. They're attracted to it. It's a genetic thing. and silly but when i see her focus on things she has this crazy focus like this like intensity of

1:39:00 She doesn't think about, my god i'm not a loser like here's the thing that makes me feel like a winner like for first there's nothing and then bow hunting when kids find a thing that they excel at and then they get Right. That's a problem right This is a very confusing time for a lot of people. but you get to live as Cam Haines for a day They would do one day and they'd be like, what the fuck are you talking about?

1:42:13 Decades. have the ability to push themselves to truly have a maximized life. And they're there for us too. their back and then aren't to their face they're there for us their lessons yeah that feeling that accomplishments okay here's your assignment this is what they did the biggest thing for me is now It's weird. new thing like learning bowhunting is that I've had this unique opportunity to

1:45:54 the the feeling that you get the nutrition that you get you know i mean i have i got a fucking I know you eat a lot of it and you also give away a lot of it. Well, I mean, my boys eat. And I give some to the guy down the street. We trade. I think as a young man, I mean, I remember I would like almost intentionally want to take harder shots than I needed to.

1:48:37 but you have to earn it every single time and if i i kill one bull for say in oregon my first Now I'm like, I got to earn it every time. Yeah. When you're young, you also don't have a lot of experiences with consequences. That's why people go to war when they're young. It's dangerous. differently. I think it's important to like, so where we are now, when you get older, I think

1:51:02 You put in all that time, all that time. So my home state, and I've never drawn so i put in for You've got to practice for that moment. Second arrow, not perfect at all. The first arrow was perfect. Yeah. living and dying with that and that's being dramatic but they're not their their purpose Goddamn there was a lot of killers in that camp, You can't believe how quickly they could dodge an arrow.

1:55:38 Like, what the fuck? Yeah, no, they're great. And this is all these goddamn animals. prepared for the moment of execution requires so much commitment you have to shoot so many times You have to make sure that you're staying calm in the moment. Yeah, you have to go to where they are and they're there because that's hard to get to they're there because there's mountain lions

1:58:07 Yeah, I think crunch time's harder. It's like that with comedy. difficult things that i've ever done they all have that in common that everything has to be aligned Maybe how they practice. But I mean, I don't know. Yeah. ever seen that uh guy joel turner's website yeah you know shot iq website it's really good it's their bow. Um, they just shoot and then they don't know what happened. I don't know where the arrow

2:02:20 don't know what the fuck you are they recognize movement yeah if you're still And that makes up for all that time. hole to be right there in the picture. I want to see that. So it sounds like that experience right there was like slow motion. It's like you have to do, like when I do stand up a lot, I get loose. I know. Yeah, yeah. But that is one where we're in regular society.

2:05:33 Like my sheep that I just killed, it's like it's already over. And I'm like, I killed that animal, that was kind of their memory of the hunt but how powerful is those memories we capture on the hunt problems that we face is that it's very difficult for us to get the way we feel about hunting to uh That was a moment where all that hard work, all that practice,

2:08:28 That's not it. This is food. No, there's a, and that's empowering. Yeah. Just having that mindset, but it's the mindset too, Yeah. It's not it's not a way the world can survive with food So I get that, but we're not maximized on opportunity for sure. I would have been doing that forever. I would have been doing it forever. That's what I do. But rifle hunting is available to a lot more people.

2:12:21 And you're also doing a good service because they need to get rid of some of these animals there's it's an infestation of these invasive animals wild pigs are not natural They take care of a lot of crops. Or no, wait. Nice. That's an invasive animal that my friend Jesse Griffiths, We were at this little trailer, I think. big duck eater, but anyway, I took a bite and I was just like, wait a second. Who are you? I mean,

2:15:10 Jesse- it so he teaches them through this this whole course that runs. And it's to get people more enthusiastic and they went fishing It's an amazing episode. Usually my wife. She cooks it? Yeah. I was like, how do you have the time? Yeah. I usually That's crazy. Cottage Grove, Oregon, they do amazing with my elk. But, like, doesn't take much difference.

2:18:47 Yeah. It is. Those you know jewel suvies. So you ever do that? You seal this in this bag. But you get it to the perfect temperature. Perfect. I get it to like 120 degrees, but I heat it up at like 260. But it doesn't motivate me. Fueled and taste. you know, maybe that hard upbringing, Yeah. Like I knew she was smart because I had seen her talk on Instagram and, you know, I'd seen the videos that she did.

2:22:46 because I think it's an amazing way to be completely independent, but especially her Mike you don't get want to trash her essentially and i mean i get that too you know i mean it's I mean, you've shared these amazing people with legions, millions, you know, that otherwise you wouldn't have known them. That's what's weird. Right. I know what it is. but they can't and it's like it's not as easy as it sounds

2:26:17 There's certain things. I'd like to discuss about who they are what they do, but Everybody told me, shut the fuck up. Like, you know, some people are bad at it. So why have Jewel on? Was her family. You know, and the fact that that's where she came from, I was stunned. Yeah, like it's she's committed to that. I mean she's No. she is is this you know and it's a good it's a good argument for overcoming adversity that how

2:30:03 Right. I mean, if you really stop and think about 1,700-plus podcasts And we were all drunk and smoking cigars. But I think also the people that listen in, It's wild, it's so many possibilities you know and i think that's scary for people it's what we were talking about earlier about people that are afraid of success Yeah. Everybody needs it. Don't be swimming with sharks.

2:33:20 Oh, yeah. The last time I did one was July, I think. Well, I was supposed to be at the one in September. during the rut. And one of the things about calling the UFC is I do it because I want to do it. But honestly, it wouldn't be as good because I have a better seat. Yeah, that's one of the luckiest things that I am because I'm such a fan of the sport.

2:35:21 and express how much of a fan i am and let that enthusiasm to her inside the octagon when i said before the fight because she was standing there before the We just be nice to each other. kick, that woman is a fucking monster. Yeah.hang weili is one of the strongest women fighters Yeah. back to the drawing board I've been watching video footage of her training

2:38:46 I mean, think about how many times she's done that. I know. Oh, my God. Yeah. oh my god it was giant like she had a football stuffed under her skin. Yeah. Don't say that, Cam. What is this? What does Colby have? Oh. Come on. Well, that's pretty silly as well. It's a very odd choice. I think going into the fifth round, if I remember correctly, that people are talking people are talking about it. The thing about him is you can get caught up in the hype and think that he's a joker and it's a lot of show business, but that motherfucker can fight.

2:43:33 Yeah, he puts a lot on. I literally don't remember where it actually landed. Yeah. That was an issue. Right there. It's not a nut shot. It definitely hit where it's not supposed to, okay? The shin is elevated I don't know I don't know. he said he's fine. Let's watch what happens when he kicks him. Away from the corner. Yeah, I said then what I said now, that it does not seem like it hit the cup. It was on the belt line. Yeah. It was on the belt line, I think. Yeah, I said then what I said now, that it does not seem like it hit the cup.

2:48:00 And so he thought he had the momentum there because he was hurt. Kamaru slammed that right hand into his chin, recent video where he was uh being interviewed by brett akimoto and he said it wasn't broken further examination, generally. Like a slight fracture But would you say, what if he could have piled on more damage when it stopped with the low blow?

2:50:05 Oh, you just had it. Wait a minute. See, so easy. Punch. Let it play, because I'm sure we show the replay. That's the one I think he... Play it, but it went in the other eye. It went in the left eye. That's the one I think he caught. That went in the left eye. It's so hard to tell. But, you know, if you're Colby and you're looking for instances, You see this, Dan?

2:52:22 Play it on again Play it on again If the head kick was to the right side Where you can grapple but the fingers weren't separated like that. Who the fuck knows? But the real argument to me is not the eye poke. the knee is up high. Yeah. But it wasn't a liver shot right well the liver is right here when you when you see a guy get hit with a left hook to the liver it's right here it's like in the ribs it's like and when you

2:54:41 Because it seems like, I don't know if i'm wrong if i'm wrong on this but it seems like um kamzat shamaev kumshot kamzat kumzat colby called him kumshot well that's rude that's rude How dare that? What? He's good at everything. But he's not at that level. And Neil Magny has asked for that fight, which is also an interesting fight. Nate Diaz, like, with Leon, like, Nate Diaz losing that fight until the fifth round and then cracking Leon and having Leon in real fucking serious trouble.

2:57:20 I just want to see him win. It's only like legitimately. The only guy who's legitimately beaten Nate is Josh Thompson. Josh shut him off. Crazy fight. boom, you know, that was definitive. Yeah, no, I haven't seen that before. There is not a doubt in my mind. And that was a terrible fight. With good reason. And then Chandler also has a great wrestling pedigree.

3:01:08 And you've trained with him. But I watch him, and he looks as in good shape now as he's ever looked. But then that just shows you how good Oliveira is. Yep. And that's going to start off