Joe Rogan Experience #174 — Eddie Bravo, Dr. Steve Graham Transcript

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0:00 All I got was an all day. Yeah. Like choosing a ringtones on your phone and you can go to the store and buy your own Is that what you do? but I've never played it. Eddie Bravo's in the house. both my rappers, Compella and Alex, and Alder, the DJ, Well, if somebody wanted to start a gang war between jiu-jitsu schools, It was just one night. I mean, he did jiu-jitsu.

3:26 That's the only song we worked on. Most people have no idea what this means. Check this out. MMA fighter. Her name is Christine about it in a couple of minutes uh she got popped for this some sort of metabolite and apparently What is the way you spell that chick's name? But she fights a jiu-jitsu girl from a Brazilian top team. I mean, she's obviously in shape,

5:53 Look at that. Yeah. She's so aggressive, and her Muay Thai is so ruthless, you know? was in that video, she never lifted Did you get his shit? Yes. who's a legend. I did see it, but I don't remember. You're crazy. this is eddie what's up man can you not hear us? Eddie, how are you doing? a video of inside of her system, now how does I feel it is possible, yeah.

9:59 in the latter phases of a steroid stack. but for making the muscle mass that you currently have real defined and hardened. It also doesn't change to estrogen. Not as much, you're saying this compound doesn't make you look like a man? Not as much, you're saying. Is that just a woman who has great genetics, I'd say that's probably a person that has used at least a number of stacked anabolic

12:39 You mean how much mass can a person put on without steroid help? And this is the big difference between men and women. naturally. Yeah, there's a photo And we don't know whether or not she did or not. Oh, like somebody can compound it and just stick it in their Wheaties, Her body is incredible, man. Hold on a second. the sisters uh she ducked a mandatory drug test they showed up at her house for mandatory drug

15:51 Yeah, well, yeah. that are involved He's been an athlete his whole life. are on some kind of either performance-enhancing drugs for things like that? the athletic associations uh the different state athletic commissions and the athletic associations, they're tearing their bodies down. So I certainly lean way towards optimization of those hormones. he's got a fantastic build for mma You know, he's got this iron jaw.

19:21 Tamden McCrory's a bad motherfucker, and he can fight his ass off. Van Henderson is a really true, I believe, hypo-gonad, everybody were allowed to be put in the good end of the normal range, And that something happens and your body starts shutting down certain systems because you're overtaxing them. Well, we know that's the case for some fighters, right?

22:12 Exactly correct. Right? where they're going to test for human growth hormone, You know, you're not going to have that. You know, the same reason, for example, that testosterone, a natural substance produced in our body, And this is... Growth hormone, no. I think California is the first state in which it's really, really become difficult Your body produces them. Yeah.

25:40 But for whatever reason, Leave Barry Bonds the fuck alone. How about that? and they have to deal with all these guys that are on the sauce, everyone's allowed to take level. The variable of your own natural hormone production is eliminated. You eliminate that have wasting diseases, AIDS, anemias, terrible burns and injuries and things like that. and go out there and fucking all the women?

28:35 and fear of what they don't Brian, shut that shit up. Anyway, Steve, thank you very much for your his recent suspension If it hurts, I always wondered that, if it hurts a woman to do that, to take male hormones, A surgically created penis. I don't know, actually. I've heard that one, but I didn't know the vagina to the penis. What could that look like?

31:23 You deflate your balls into your new dick? Can I ask him about my elbow? it's kind of sore and then I've been working out lately and I've noticed like my I could barely repetitive motion diseases. It's my podcasting arm. of a non-steroidal. If you're taking ibuprofen, you want to take 800 milligrams a day, go to exclusively heat. And what brand of working out on it unfortunately and I think I really

34:10 Steve, you're the fucking man. Take care. Perfect time Where we hear it in the headsets It is amazing. Are they called something? liquid it's really weird it's a it's a thing a weird thing that they do it's i think it's called cut weight and fight and he's he was 5 11 and uh the guy the pride guy said uh we'd like you have Do they? Like if you talk to Vanderlei,

37:41 oh, you tested hot and then use it against you. they'll bust a cartel every now and then. They know everybody's aware that most of the drugs are getting through. But back to the steroid thing. want to compete at the upper levels. there's some guys that need more help you know and did that does that mean they shouldn't be Alistair Overeem. Alistair Overeem

40:20 fucking 3 pounds. He's doing great. There's always going to be guys like that. You can smoke as many cigarettes as you want. Wow. Well, you said when you said children is a good point. Scary shit. Wow. Had a rot wire with giant muscles you could know. No, it wasn't Joey Diaz. but it wasn't him. at that weight you would think with all the fat chicks in this country you would think there'd be

43:55 Who cares what she's doing? She's huge. She's killing it. Oh, a girl named Gabby Garcia. She's huge. How much does she weigh? Is there another shot of her? Click on that one They were afraid of Cyborg Guns blazing. He was the best, dude. caught her and now they can keep her from doing something she'll be like a woman again she'll be may be a little foggy, but

47:10 You know, I forgot. That makes sense. He's got to put on as much muscle as he can. Really? He lost a big foot. He fucked up. Well, he knocked him down, but I think it was more of a slip than anything when I watched it. It's true. I think that he should get serious with his weight and shred down and get to 205 and Is it only a minute long? Yeah, it's like a minute and a half

49:47 It's amazing how quick it's changed. then i think this was like 2000 looks so different or something 2003 2005 maybe fujita fought in uh There's something about kicks on the ground that made shit a little He got rocked right there. If it was a better striker Yeah for sure He's on his ass, but look how he pops up again. Body kick. he did Tim Sylvia where he grips

52:06 He was like, Fedor sucks. You're going to take half the promotion because you have one guy And he's not worth anything. you know brock is if you had the brock before his diverticulitis surgery you know i don't i don't That knee's coming way faster than you thought it would. if Brock couldn't have got the takedown. I knew Overeem won, and I thought you were tripping on acid

54:29 Hey, hey, hey, hey. Indians inside of them that come out What about Germany? Germany Well, there's a couple different ones How about England Eddie where I had to hold his fucking hand and walk him home. And I always say, hey, man, we got a flight in like an hour. I'm like, shit, we got to get to that airport early. No Eddie. I'm worried about my friend's safety

55:57 With the lights on You were blasted. Like nothing. Oh, my God. That's the end of drunk. And at 5 o'clock in the morning, I talked to Eddie on the phone. I was out partying. Same thing. taking care of I go, who the fuck? What do you look like? And then fast forward to me waking up in the back of this car with my backpack and my suitcase in the back of this car.

58:52 He goes, you fucking took my car. I'm like, oh, shit. And I always keep my computer in my backpack. was the second time in a row we went traveling internationally. The second time I had to babysit him. It was from England to this. You're just pretending you're blacking out because it makes it convenient. And then finally We've talked about this a bunch of times

1:01:09 I don't even know the full story about, I don't know if you even want to talk about that. Okay. Yes. Austin, right? Every time somebody says Eddie's. Mostly nothing. in the audience watching in Vegas. Yeah. It was great when you were sitting next to me, man, when you were doing the fight analysis. And it was, you know, sometimes when you're commentating, you know,

1:03:25 Once they stuck your ass in the booth. I go, no. That interviewing fighters after the fight. live tv a lot of people aren't used to doing that. And now you have two minutes. What can you say? till the whole thing looks like a purple salami. It's just a wild- that fucking sport man it's just it's a just a I wonder if Brock was, like, worried about the knees.

1:06:31 getting kneed by alistair ovarian i don't see how that can be good you know and what's his face eric I mean, your whole insides got operated on Like his last fight, the Overeem fight was over $800,000, I believe, At the end of the day, Brock Lesnar's a fucking goddamn superstar. first of all he's not like a flashy guy you ever see the car he drives he drives like a little

1:08:47 There's a video of him jumping off the top rope and flipping, and is still conscious. Look at him holding his head, man. How long was he out for that? Is there video of him, like, running on his hands? First fight in, he's fighting a former heavyweight champion. You're a powerful puncher. He should have been going to fucking Thailand. But when a guy gets beat up like he did in the Shane Carwin fight

1:11:30 how to really kickbox, and tougher opponents, I think he could have always said this, that it's really hard for guys There's a lot of UFC fighters out there that just, they won't just walk into a room and loss and their striking was exposed that's the they're trying to do the best thing they could you know, the hardest thing for a wrestler to do is, is, uh, transition into MMA,

1:13:39 He's got more. He's shooting at the right time because he's got to avoid the strikes. He's taking everybody down. in an arm bar it wasn't from his guard um i think he was in the mount and he was kind of rolling off or something it wasn't that's we've seen one guy already emulate it uh Gustafsson he's emulating and he's made it work as well too Is that your fucking phone?

1:16:38 You know, when you watch the guy kick, man, I mean, that's a lot of that. too and i guess they're gonna coach the ultimate fighter now Yeah. Let me see if I can find a video online. One of these Nova União guys. R-E-N-A-N. there's a part of the game that, you know, rarely do we see an axe kick also some guy did throw that in a recent fight it was a real quick

1:19:54 And whoever fights... Faber rubber match He throws his knees out of nowhere. So many of those guys are killer strikers. Misenzio's a good wrestler, though, right? M&R has some wild leg lock finishes. That's what I would say. You know, he was tapping, and Mazzagati still did not get Frank to let go. Yeah, that's right. Yeah. Right. And he yanked his arm.

1:23:49 came out guns blazing you know he was like one of the best guys then he gets beat up by ian freeman And then when he comes back, he's still not the same, can't train right, he's got pain in his legs. Meanwhile the the best days are yet to come Even though he won both fights, I would love to see a third match. God, that's going to haunt him. But there was a pop and a shift.

1:26:27 He probably thought he could get out of it somehow or another, you know. a huge jiu-jitsu star he does that all the time I'm working that into my game too it's nice it's When you're going for a Kimura, you've got to make That was the first time we saw a Brazilian jiu-jitsu black belt get tapped. Yeah. He was leg kicking him, leg kicking him, and they were like,

1:28:41 Yeah, stop that he was still standing from one head, and he kind of like caught himself on the fence, He's 51 years old. should be taking that kind of punishment deep into his 50s or in 40s 50s you know i think a that was like one of the upsets, gonna get fucked up guaranteed he goes these guys they don't know how to punch they know how to kick level cardio and what those guys made sure is that they could keep, like,

1:30:40 So, you know, I'll see you in, like, seven minutes or something, They just can't believe how deep he can take it. He got really outboxed in that first round. ridiculous like no one has that kind of accuracy that dude is just getting really good man him and BJ said something about, what was that weak-ass shit you tried wearing me out, But there's video of it. And he was pissed off at that.

1:32:54 I hate to see You got to be a crazy animal to get in there for, you know, what? You know how fucking insane you have to be? And it was just awful? And he was doing it like a champion? that that is some sort of a weakness. We want you to be the leader. We want you to be the highest character. We want you to be funny and charming, and we want you to be a lethal assassin. We want you to be the leader.

1:35:07 could be the same sort of conversation and no one would really judge it they would go oh yeah well To fight anybody. You know, that takes a lot of balls. people are like, so many goddamn people. I love Nick Diaz's attitude. There's a lot of guys out there who go, This was a great fight. God damn, he was good. Is this in Japan? When Gomi was, nobody wanted to fight Gomi.

1:38:04 Yeah, easy, man. Look, BJ, and this was after he had left the UFC, man. fucked him up the arm triangle dwayne ludwig dwayne ludwig that was nice yeah easy man look Gomi is just jacked and bloody. Yeah, we're like a two-second delay away from each other. I like it because now there might be a cardio freaks you know because it really is the right thing to do because they know that they

1:39:59 or to the world, they would appear like in, to dress, Like, you don't need an outfit. What percentage of gangbangers Gangbangers don't have cable? So it was like all Mexican. We were into taking the bus to the beach and, you know, boogie boarding. It was it was mostly Mexican, She was in eighth grade, real popular and beautiful, and lightning bolt like

1:43:22 from yeah it got hairy and um this is what this is what that I was going to transfer myself to an all-white school clear across town I had to use my aunt's So I went from being too popular This is your life, Eddie Bravo. You go into classes. They're minimal physical confrontation. But the so lucky. I skated through high school with minimal physical confrontation.

1:45:48 Just sat on top of me. I couldn't believe that this dude could do that to me. There's a video, an article that I read recently said, never trust a man who's never been punched generally in the beginning at least you have to have a very small ego because you're going to get tapped out. They never face physical adversity, and they're terrified of it. They never face physical adversity and they're terrified of it

1:47:39 personal sovereignty you know to be a man who's like in control of his own shit. There's a lot of goddamn at a high level in any sort of martial arts situation that there's a lot of people that this is a really funny conversation because essentially what you're saying is, and you just tap before the You might have a little bit of an injury. Once or twice.

1:49:54 I hurt my back doing Jiu Jitsu We both got tweeted the exact same Black Keys tweet the other day. Yeah, then we both. You see, you're being sponsored by Starbucks or the Black Keys keys dude like not just one person and i was like oh wow buy on itunes it's for everything but yeah like an i haven't had a physical copy i didn't even know how my fucking cd player in my

1:51:52 1988. I don't know where to buy stickers or band t-shirts now either. It was on.com, bitch. But you would always have to wait They go under. You sat down have to ask him I'll ask him during the podcast we'll get to the root of this he Like, how weird is this? to try to navigate the waters? it's like all right there in the same shit record labels are so useless now they really are what do they do now they get you on mtv i guess and and uh

1:54:55 I'm going to probably try to do it in Atlanta in April. All the stuff about getting it on TV and all the stuff about getting it through this channel and that channel given me spike was awesome and the ufc produced it and they were awesome it was so easy baby blow belly of the beast oh i remember that one that was an that one. Anna Nicole Smith made it on both of them. Damn, that's a good one.

1:56:39 do my stuff, I was like, wow. the only bit that in the history of while you're doing this bit no one's laughing it's just weird and then somewhere along the line i realized that what i was doing was i was doing You got to throw yourself into that thing where, well, he's fucking and he's just, you know. you know you got to think like that way and then then the bit became so strong that i had to put

1:58:54 Once I figured out how to be the tiger could do it. I would ruin it. I would ruin it. Just a certain part of the year, right? that I can never go back to. I've come back to For the most part. But you just got to think that you're the animal. freaking out man can you get that I get it? I got people freaking out man Like the growling wolf Oh, on the show?

2:02:02 You know this shit, bitch. You got to just let him go. We're going to walk up to you and you're talking about Bruce Lee. Return of Death Knuckle? Cristo Garcia was the producer, director. Then we, that was that's an all-time classic that was really Joey right that was Joey talking that's Joey Diaz is one of those dudes where you just go, know we filmed that

2:05:07 We could provide some entertaining thing for free for people. I hear it. they always send us they always tag us in the same shit it's like conspiracy yeah conspiracy Crazy shit. on this giant field of corn or wheat or whatever the fuck it is by pressing things down there's because these guys that are into it And apparently, that changes when things are squashed and smashed, which totally makes sense.

2:08:39 1738 feet by 470 something feet. That's almost twice the length of the Titanic. Jesus Christ. It was completed in two days by 12 students at Oregon State. It was 1,033 feet long and 500 feet wide, and it was made in seven minutes. Who the fuck engineered this piece of shit? So he went down to the vehicle and changed the tapes and came back up. There's a video of a crop circle being created.

2:11:09 It's still amazing. Yeah, it's a bunch of circles. Do you remember it? But the people that are into them, man a man god they're into them they're The problem is I don't know if there's been any real widespread You know, this is the first contact. math hippies yeah for sure i mean if if someone did this they would have to be like a serious We got Imagine if this was some satellite shit they figured out how to do a long time ago.

2:14:52 There's evidence that this shit had happened long, long, long before there was even cameras. Yeah, it could be. that crazy starburst thing? You think that was just kids flattening corn out back then? But it only happens rarely, so they can't measure it. That is not doing wonders for your testosterone By the Shorty Awards What by the Shorty Awards. I've never actually tried, but I'm like, hey, this will get me a Wikipedia page.

2:17:31 Wait a minute. You know, aren't you? I don't know. That's what's going on. You got a You just decided that that's going to be your salvation. So let's just wrap this bitch up. Children do it. 10thplanetjiujitsu.com 10thplanetjj yeah 10thplanetjj.com the main school is in hollywood They come in from all over the world. I videotape every single technique, put it up on my website, I put up every technique I teach at my home school. I videotape every single technique, put it up on my website,

2:20:42 Not yet. It works on an iPhone. I'm not a computer geek. How do you beat that? Do you have one in Columbus, Ohio? your monkey aggression yep it's good for you and I hear over and over again from emails and Twitter, But it's the coolest thing to hear. So I try to keep it real as much as possible. I hear that all the time, too, man. Anybody. You don't feel burdened by the shitty feeling of being out of shape,

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