Joe Rogan Experience #1741 — Ted Nugent Transcript
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0:00 The Joe Rogan Experience. They're all over the place in Texas. So you found a Native American arrowhead and you use a 1930s wooden arrow with real turkey feathers. maybe. And there was some Canadian geese on a pond. And we snuck in almost like Ishii, like Huh. But to leave it there. ago and, you know, hunting for their food to feed their family in that same ground.
3:57 I brought you this. hat. And this is a Ted Nugent Sunrise Safari's at britain's archery in tarpon springs florida it is so bright and then when you're going to And it clips onto your pants with that little clip on the back. Appreciate it. Thank you. You got a samurai thing going on. Dedication to being oneness with any given endeavor. Yeah, very fortunate to know those guys.
6:28 Let me slug of that. to unleash the musical beast. And if they don't bring it up, I make sure I do, So anyhow, when I do the media and I explain to them about venison, Come on, that can't be true. 250 million pure, nutritious meals of venison. No, elk, deer, mostly deer, probably 90% deer. This is awful. There's millions of pigs in Texas alone. Tens of millions. millions yeah if i may put the definitive comment on that yeah please do
10:11 So we're saving the environment. perry and then attorney general greg abbott it was your idea the helicopter thing yeah it was How could you possibly think you have the authority to determine whether I pay for the Don't ask why. Because sex is free. Why isn't Hillary in prison? You couldn't pay for it. Why? Is it like a prostitution thing? Don't ask why.
11:33 Anyhow. And so he Googled the laws, and he rewrote them at the camp, at the helicopter camp. we process this organic pork, and we feed soup kitchens and homeless shelters. are attorneys and I don't hold it against them. They rewrote it. Two weeks later, it was legal. And here's the next win. talked about a vegan diet, a vegan diet. You corrected me. I called it vegan. You said vegan.
14:33 that the preparing of tofu is the most genocidal slaughter procedure And he must have heard our exchange. And when you have thousands of acres of soybeans, for example, that's not normal. It's not normal wheels. It's just, it's Most people are a part of something that's awful. I met Ranella, he took me hunting, I shot a mule deer, we cooked it over a fire and
17:41 you are now going to feed your family. eating it over the fire, I knew it right away. I knew that what I was doing was pure. It's the way the cycle works. Yes. that was difficult to get close to with a sharp stick. that this isn't just tangible physical stuff, God bless the farmers and ranchers because if we want 10 billion chickens a week, that's how you got to do it.
21:19 I've hung out with them all my life. It's not all factory farming. And they source all their food from ethical ranchers. The sugar, the garbage. Make your body healthy. Tucker Carlson is the only guy i've seen that mentions that specifically Yeah. I get it. Don't do it. Well, I would be interested in going to one of those things because there's a whole conservation
23:56 there was a big hullabaloo I did one. is back when cnn wasn't quite as fucked, they did a really good job explaining this. But it's a very confusing thing to people that don't understand that the whole reason why the animals are thriving in Africa is because people want to pay to shoot them. i just beat the shit out of myself and it's so fun the only thing you were a day before we get
25:56 How many meals do you think you donate every year to the Hunters for the Hungry? Because if you just donated to soup camps, or soup kitchens rather, and you donated to kitchens and homeless shelters, I work with Project Caritas in Waco, and we got butchers in Michigan wants the big five or someone who's fascinated by dangerous game and big giant animals. And I'd
28:26 The animals have babies every year. It's hard to hear it. Like, they don't even know. They don't even know. Joee you're talking to the guy who's been on the front line of this Do you ever get tired of doing it? What did she say to you? Where they're getting these wild pigs and they're getting the permits to process them. They need to eat looters. And within minutes, and I do this on our Spirit of the Wild show,
32:30 destroyed and that's why the seagulls and the crows are following the tractor to eat these He's a very nice guy. He's such a critical thing. geez yeah you know that yes the lone star tick these people it's it's something called alpha And then eventually by the time he got it out there, he was feeling sick. They call it alpha gal for short, I believe.
34:49 yes check for ticks check your body for ticks because you can get those ticks off within the What's the difference how they treat it over there? If you get the antibiotics, here's a great, this must have been back in the 70s, Yeah, my friend's son got Bell's palsy, Lone Star Tick makes you allergic to it. that later produces a mild to severe allergic reaction to red meat, such as beef, pork, or lamb,
37:59 Have you heard that a large percentage of deer are carrying COVID-19? Wisconsin, a bunch. one of the best hunting podcasts there is. They really don't know. even though everybody's freaking out about this new strain, Yeah. I don't know if it's New York State or the city, but I think they're both wacky. Some of the highest revenues brought into that country, not just South Africa, but whole Southern Africa, Botswana, Zimbabwe, Zambia, Mozambique, Namibia.
41:30 And that's a huge industry as well. They think a vaccinated traveler went there like from Europe because to travel from Europe, I believe most of the countries you have to be vaccinated. I believe you have to give people freedom. 61. I mean, not just Americans, all over the country. And after a couple thousand were like 50,000 of those right now that people go to Ted Newsom dot com and get autographed.
44:08 So it doesn't make any sense. still a little skittish, but Florida, at least we could go to restaurants. You know, you had to wear a mask. works, and if you look at the response to it, lockdowns don't help. They just don't. Sure. But you can buy it as a supplement. Say that. There's something happening. suggesting that obese individuals may be at a higher risk to respond poorly to COVID-19 infection.
48:30 Yeah, drink water. When I use that term to anybody under 50, they don't have the faintest idea what I'm talking about. Wait a minute. Somebody's brainwashed you. You should have flowers. Does that shit work? I'm going to give you a whiff. that's got some sugar in it. 73 years is a good start. That's a good start. You drink a little wine every now and then?
51:17 But I don't. control. I'm sure. I don't need any impetus. I don't need any outside influences. The great Not when I was 67. I mean. Look at that hair standing up on end. That is such a natural rhythm. but a guy named Jimmy McCarty. So I opened up. for white boys, I'm telling you. forehead vein-popping crescendos. Joe Kubrick on a Gibson 335 Cherry chukka-chukka-chukka stuff,
57:05 Come on, see, baby, what you have done now. Do you feel that? Right. Holy fuck! The whole... Yeah. I still keep in touch with these fucking guys I think you discovering that you can either go vegan or a hunter, you made the primal decision. I think primal is the answer to every problem mankind I've never studied it. Yeah. Wow. You know that. And Edgar Winner and Rick Derringer
1:03:44 I hope I got all this right. That's that right hand again. To the center of the mind If you don't want to indulge me, I'm here to help. wrong, but they couldn't break free. So when they sang, it was the ultimate heartbreak, anger, blues, gospel. of freedom and i'm gonna sing about fucking your daughter long tall sally and i'm gonna i'm gonna He's my hero.
1:08:41 I think he's alive. Motherfucker My favorite is You can't design that. You don't get that from a good childhood, right? thanked Chuck Berry and Bo Diddley and Little Richard and James Brown and how is this guy doing that? When did they first start recording? There's like a really, really old recording of someone singing. 1860. Take the foundation of electric guitar, honky-tonk.
1:12:36 What about Mick Jagger? Fucking amazing It's an incredible place, the Circuit of the Americas. You're not allowed to celebrate black girls now? No one's protesting that song. But goddamn, the show was good. When they played Wow. and so when the british guys Just different. You name the best guitarists. landscape yes it looks it looks restrictive, doesn't it?
1:17:27 Kinda caught off guard It sounds like something you've heard before, but you never have. I mean, Billy Gibbons, the beast. He's a great guitar player. There is so many, and there's more coming every day. What a great lick. I got you in a stranglehold, bitch. i don't but i get it it's about standing up for what you believe. Cliff Davies, God rest his soul, on drums.
1:21:27 Just great licks, great song. before we start recording make sure it's like a team energy thing like a pre-fight gathering right God. I do. How the fuck did they get that so wrong? I'm going with the people's vote. It's a monster. I mean, Derek wrote the song Hey Baby on the first record. Right up there at the top. That might be the... There I was, back in the wild again
1:25:11 they're adventurous, they're critical thinkers. They're gifted. Michael Lutz on bass, anniversary, the song every day I get people testifying what the song Fred Bear means to them, But my people, they own the spirit of every song that we play. Will you tell everybody who Fred Bear was? the vehicles. And he had become so proficient with the 30-30 that he was looking for more of
1:28:18 Nels Grumley was his boyer. he was making his own bows, he and Nels. Northern California, 1908, maybe. and they wanted to Ishi his whole life was based on the bow and arrow, getting close to game, taking a freezing river bath before the hunt to deserve an encounter with the beast that would provide life, food, clothing, shelter, tools, medicine, weapons, spirit, deep into the spiritual realm.
1:30:55 I'm probably getting some of the details a little misconstrued here, but this was the proceedings that took place. I got to try that shit. California and Ben Pearson down in Arkansas were fancying bow hunting as a little sideline Back then, they made their own out of just raw stock steel. Wow. Yes. back from world war ii and fred bear already had enough influence in michigan that my dad
1:34:42 Roy Case. That's how they identified the delivery of an arrow. And how'd they keep their arrows within that range? bows and arrows so he moved from Detroit to Grayling Michigan up in the middle of the state know a little bit about botany what does that do lets the sunlight hit the ground and the habitat I live right next to the Rouge River. But I always shot my bow and arrow.
1:38:32 Holy, this is the guy in the cover of a true magazine with a polar bear. So just a natural inclination. So I was deep into shooting. name that you Dudley yes it's a perfect example of a dangerous bowhunter because old John is uh just so unnaturally um relaxed right am I right he's very relaxed I'm not so I have to turn the and he welcomed me into his life wholeheartedly, even though he told me that his buddies, I don't know about this rock and roll guy, sex, drugs, and rock and roll.
1:41:16 And this guy's high energy and is getting bow hunting promotion to people who will never hear of you. I'd go every year up to a place called Grouse Haven up in Rose City, Michigan, the gateway Cause they were pioneers of the new bow hunting challenge versus what Roy stealth, reasoning predator, hunting in a rock and roll way because he got the word out to people who would never hear it at the show right um and then that next april he died and it was a a force wave of heartbreak just
1:44:35 Did you find that Pope and Young video? Can't be sounding on it, but. 1920s? Is that awesome? wild that's wild yep 1926 see if you could find any Fred that i have not i have put debris i have put vegetation in my hat emulating old fred so he's Now I wear mossy oak, and there's all kinds of camo out there. He invented that. the best of the best of you, get a bow and arrow. Find a bow that is comfortable and graceful.
1:48:38 or a butcher or a mechanic or a plumber Meditation to fit? I can't find a better one. the position may be. It is accentuated, no doubt about it. It's not weightlifting. Yeah, shout out to Archery Country right here in Austin. No, Allen, the Allen compound. No. The compound bow has become increasingly popular. Look at that photo. There they are. Look how he made it out of wood.
1:53:30 shot instinctive with a all up until just 12 years ago yeah 12 years ago wow and so you brought the And you learn what those gaps are, different yardages. a 90-yard pass. Yeah. And I'm notorious for instrumentals that have beautiful melodies that grow. I do chores every day. Winter, Spring, Summer, Fall. actually quite a sporting goods store in Jackson, Michigan,
1:59:38 He goes, let me set you up a bow with a peep sight. a Michigan whitetail is one of the most impossible tasks under the sun. These animals are born because once that pin and that peep is there, Did you ever use like back tension releases or anything? I have it, but I manage it with that right And I have my pins set Most Olympic guys have had, most archers have, get it at one point or another.
2:03:10 a real Buck, a live Buck, I saw the orange tape on his crease. Do you know who he is? You're not going to check it. the thing that he does the way he says it um it works yeah i think his is drawback and aim get it done God damn, I love this thing. And there's like a little click. I hear it like when I get And I shot the biggest elk I've ever shot in my life this year with that hinge.
2:06:13 steel piece of steel is against the string, and you have to finish your draw with the Talk to any Olympic archer and they'll tell you that archery accuracy is 99% mental. and especially and sometimes people shoot the antlers just a 3d target are you looking at your pin are you looking at the spot you want Plus, I got a new one from the U.S. Marine Armor that I haven't even shot yet. I'm
2:09:06 here's one thing you probably like to shoot long-range rifle stuff don't pull the trigger yeah from that show oh yeah from the leah tiffany he's a killer he is a killer um he was i had a about shot sequence management. No increments of the shot sequence are isolated. They're all I shoot my bow in every hotel on tour every year for the last 50 years.
2:11:08 It doesn't matter whether it's an elk at 40 yards or a ball at 10 feet. Quite honestly, on anything. Yes. shooting at closed pins in the fireplace with a bunch of cardboard behind it. I do. red eye 840 horse. It won't go more than 118 miles an hour. I know you do. And all rebuilt? I know you do. It's so performance. Not even close. I have a Tesla Model S Plaid, the new one.
2:15:53 I love that part. That's what's the most fucked up part about it. The opening lick of my new record, Detroit Muscle, says, They're canceling the Hellcat engine. They're going to go all electric. idea is the emissions are better. And our enemies own it all. them, the ones that we have. I like horsepower. My one sound is the best sound. Yep. somewhere. I wouldn't know. 1970
2:18:51 Oh, my God. Absolute embarrassment. The golden age for American muscle cars, in my opinion, is between 65 and with a Barracuda, 80 grand. $3,000 in 1970 is worth, oh, it's only worth $21,000 today. That's actually really reasonable. You are the samurai of Googleology or whatever the hell it is. and I punched it in, and Rocco, my son, showed me how to put it on the screen, told me where to go.
2:21:20 You have to know how to get from point A to point B when there was only a map at the shell station i'm so glad i busted my ass people consider it a struggle it wasn't a struggle it and I'd never do it again. I couldn't. I couldn't possibly survive that now. When I go on tour military operated like my rock I asked him what he does, and he goes, a little bit of everything.
2:23:31 saddest shit in the world is when you're talking to someone who doesn't like what they do but let But they still do it. it, but they do it every day. And as I come here today, driving down 35, which by the way, Coming from Los Angeles, yes. job description from every imaginable ideology this sunrise a lot like the waiver you tried to get me to sign coming in here, which I will sign after we dissect it.
2:27:39 especially with all the bad and the ugly that the world is producing right now. Fred bear means what stranglehold means what what my music means to them what I don't presume shit. And the input, they're uninhibited. It's being able to express your opinion. Dr. Mike Hart from Canada, a guy who's been on my show today before in the past. And he was There was nothing.
2:30:34 Vitamin D supplementation is effective on various target parameters. So he publishes this, and it gets pulled from LinkedIn. I mean, how evil can you, it's not to be understood. There's a narrative now. There's no reason why anybody should if you're not aware of that stuff, then this would be shocking to you. you know i'm here to help and i do respect your elders yes do not bother yourself with the big question, why?
2:33:50 totalitarian thinking because the the totalitarian thinking is so strange to me that it's coming from But it's still, in their eyes, throughout history, if you talk to people, day, and he used to be a sales rep for pharmaceutical companies to get inside their good graces They manipulate it to become rich and in control, and they could give a shit about how many
2:36:20 It's a lot of it is influence. Mankind is so capable of soulless weakness where you can buy their soul. Fast and Furious, that's right. They were so anti-gun, Barack Obama and Eric Holder, two of the biggest punks that ever slithered the earth, Eric and Holder, Barack Obama claiming, well, we need to track these guns to show you where they It was AK-47.
2:39:20 But is it a theory that this was the motivation for them selling these guns? That's what's hilarious. D-E-T-T-Y. and deceit Operation Fast and Furious cameras in his house of tax dollars. So the bureaucrats in the room went, yeah, why not? alcohol and tobacco. They went, that's a little far. there's no reason to have a bureaucracy, and the people and bloat the shit out of that, and then we could, yeah, we could probably start a law enforcement agency and bloat the
2:43:13 Smart man, I dare you to explain why there is such a bureaucracy that deals with alcohol, tobacco, and firearms. And you have to be honest. anti-freedom, oath-violating bureaucracies. I rest my case. And now if you come after me because of my Joe Rogan rant, So it's been going on since the 1930s? What is the idea of the ATF today? Your city police have that control.
2:45:57 But why? I mean, is that the only thing they share in common? I got it from God. Yeah, that would not be possible in America under the current laws, way it sits right now because too many people are armed, particularly here. Yes, whatever that thing is. Let's stop and take a moment and examine the thought process of the president of the United States,
2:48:15 Don't you remember that exchange? That's my point. That's what Glenn Beck said when I said, you know, 96% of violent crimes are repeated. What's happened is that there never been, if you wanted to think you need to have weapons showed that 90% of illegal guns were found He's there to support They're supposed to be working for us to enhance doesn't say anything about you can't have
2:51:25 against the government. They really do. I don't read books. The military is run by regular people. I've done- And they don't like it when I ask them how they could follow somebody like J. Edgar Hoover or James Comey. Right. They don't like it when i ask them how they could follow somebody like j edgar hoover How do you obey an oath-violating command like that?
2:54:33 this is going to be the lowest point there's conscience you all know what's right and what's wrong and there's so many examples whether it's lauren lan horiachi why that prick's not in prison or facing the guy who shot vicky That was a moment in time for America where we can take a deep breath and go, know they can't debate me. I remember that, the Pierce Morgan thing was fascinating.
2:57:24 It's like, so many people guy that the cops shot Lifetime. Michael Berry and Joe Pags and Tucker Carlson and Sean Hannity and Lars Larson and Mark Davis, all these conservative talk show people, the parole boards, and the negotiation of early release or plea bargaining. And I'm resisting it with every fucking fiber of my being. But the district attorney that they have now, this guy Gascon.
3:00:47 Yeah, about the shootout, the- There's his picture. a shit but i do i want to know what's the end goal there must be some end goal to And like the guy in Wisconsin And then here's the fucked up part. Did the auto driving feature go nuts and it just plowed into the crowd? that when someone is attacking you jim you'll find it there's first of all i've seen a video of a security guard that got hit in the
3:03:50 That's what the Portland prosecutor said. gun, deadly force is justified. You must neutralize this person. When you hear about them essentially allowing people to come across the border from Mexico, But at the same time, they're not vaccinating these people who they're letting into the country. Hug him, kiss him, give him a bone. support of more lenient policies in terms of like prosecuting criminals and you could show them that
3:07:45 my brother. He's a great man. So you hated Trump. So that means you're siding with this This is the guy that let the guy out for $1,000 bail. So he said he knew that it would cause a loss of life. Don't you also think there's a political climate of police reform and of justice reform? a horrendous evil. there's a conversation with Ezra Klein, who's also. Jamie, go to my Twitter. Go to my Twitter because there's a conversation
3:10:40 to hear this with the thoughts of today. I have seen this. But it would make a lot of the global poor richer, wouldn't it? I think we have to raise wages in this country. I think we have to do everything that we can world to address the problems of international poverty. is a direct result of Barack Obama and Joe Biden and the left. I want people that want to come into this country and work hard. I love immigration opportunity. I'm all for immigration. I'm all
3:14:05 and they're in these social justice warrior echo chambers, looking at it from this cartoonish version of what a right-wing person is the cartoonish version of how people can get healthy but I'd like to think that the laws that I obey came from we the people for safe And Doug, my manager for 40-some years. Johnny Big on bass with Calvin Ross, Lone Star Music. Yeah, I'm getting a lot of shout-outs,
3:17:16 That there is a right wing and a left wing? And people on the- You can't threaten. So they just banned them. there was a thing called the unity 2020 project that Brett Weinstein tried to put together. There was no threats. But have you ever had a hardcore communist I think he has good values and good ideas. Yeah, but his position is to look at things like speculative trading
3:20:28 Great concept. Almost as good as a guitar player. These people are almost always in some way or another entangled. big and it has so much fucking power yeah it has way more power There's two columns. We don't trust the USDA. You know what my favorite one is? I read this stuff. This stuff is a take from hard-working Americans. This is Reuters No, no, no.
3:24:29 And it says, wait, what? stopped releasing all the... Say what it says. what the fuck. God damn it, their wait what is my what the fuck. has a deal with the And I know you're inquisitive and you're suspicious, but don't ask why. we've been talking for more than three hours. Have we I thank God every day. I know you do. that you've been a musician obviously love it
3:27:13 do. So please, Ted Nugent, Then something happened and I came alive And I can many gave all Live it up, motherfuckers.