Joe Rogan Experience #1744 — Derek from More Plates More Dates Transcript

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0:00 The Joe Rogan Experience. you in person. No, yeah, long overdue. How did you get started? For me, I've always sort of just So I just started basically reiterating my articles in video format too. And then eventually You have an air conditioner behind you, But what you're doing is just, you have a unique ability to pull information out of the air. there's definitely leeway still or else they would not still be in the lab trying to figure out ways

3:28 You got to test clean. what kind of edge they can get regardless if it's through straight through straight supplementation, dietary practice, manipulations, lifestyle interventions, et cetera. you know, people are up and behind him is all same thing. 18th place was the last guy that you could find that did not test positive. and putting blood back into your cell,

5:21 and they understand what your normal levels are. but even that varies with sleep and diet and you've got to build up the data so if you're russian olympic team was juiced to the tits yeah the whole team yeah everybody they that guy gregory otherwise didn't get caught at the time. And then Beijing. take the and take the win versus you know live a normal life yeah fucking wild well they in their

8:29 so lucrative, the amount of money that's on the table that if you think, even if you're, you know, probably some dude from the gym right maybe somebody from the gym tells them how to do they won't get tested. So many. Yeah. and then he eventually got in the UFC, was competing at middleweight, which is 185esque. Right. Well, Vitor at one point in time was 240 pounds, and then he eventually got in the UFC,

11:05 Yeah, yeah. Yeah, right there. That was back when you could wear shoes. Mark Kerr was even bigger than Mark Coleman. And what happened was And now he's got a hit out on him. so this poor guy Mark Coleman gorilla Jesus. you for steroids. And so this documentary is like the gold guys need testosterone. and then they get tested during that time period.

15:45 to these tues is even if you're within the natural reference range like he was pushing it to super yeah and obviously when you're weight cutting aggressively, if you're a guy who loses, I don't know, 30, 40, 50 pounds in a matter of a few months to make weight for an event, obviously your test levels are going to go in the gutter too. from exogenous administration of testosterone, you get a

17:48 Yeah. I forgot all the- So this carbon isotope test, which detects wild yams, a human could produce this through endogenous steroidogenesis from cholesterol. So if you And you had the lab equipment. Is this something the Chinese have done? I'm just wondering if it's been proven that it can be done. is these concentration camps. as well as in professional sports in general.

22:56 this is the stuff about the drug testing yeah because there was that whole debacle with the clomiphene and letrozole way back in like 2016 or something. So if you look at those two drugs, After that, he tests positive for Terenobol and then thereafter the pulsing. but he's never had that pulse so he has this terenobol that keeps pulsing but the clomid

25:36 and that's actually when i mentioned the summer olympics and how many people retroactively got So the idea between behind the pulsing is these metabolites that linger, they can store themselves in like fat tissue, essentially, and they can like liberate themselves over time So you're going to get it designed by an underground lab who sells steroids to, you know, random bodybuilders or a chemist

27:36 long-term data that came out. so he really it was that bad yeah so normally the levels would be over 10 times what he had indicate significant suppression, in my if he's going into a fight with his testosterone that low. Because if you have a drug that's If they're using a test that's sophisticated enough to detect that he has these very low Potentially.

31:20 an assay to detect it. So even though you have this elaborate list of steroids that are known about, They don't look for low. was manipulated and, you know, see something iffy and, you know, dig into it and get a, having in the past tested positive is literal testosterone. They're just micro dosing it throughout the day. But with testosterone, EPO, GH, et cetera, it's a lot more finicky because it's supposed to be there.

34:57 and you would kind of know beforehand what it looks like when you take this micro dose of a compound and what it does to your, you know, detection parameters. So you'd have someone So there's some individuals that have a genetic, it's like they're literally missing the gene So there's people who use upwards of like half a gram of testosterone, 500 milligrams,

36:31 threshold for red flagging just an ability to remember these things i used to be really into bodybuilding much more so than And I don't know. talk about it yeah like i don't know especially if you're i don't know like i guess at the end Yeah. He's the best, but he is the ultimate wrestling nerd. I know. So you imagine the layman There's a lot of other shit involved as well.

40:13 so meticulous about their sleep etc which like i sort of understand but it's like it's all fucking so when i talk about it first of all i talk about it because everything that i find beneficial i a cheater. It's not like there's some sort of a sanctioned competition where you have an unfair advantage I'll tell you how it works. You weren't swinging kettlebells and hitting the bag,

42:44 Yeah. effect on your ability to recover, your ability to, you know, your endocrine system to function Accidentally by guys like Gary Vee for example. He's just like the most hyper aggressive fucking high-energy, dude I'm wrecked. I had to be, I'll do like 45 minutes of cardio or something. Three shows are rough because the third show you don't remember what the fuck you've said.

45:29 set list You ever use that stuff? I'll give you some of it. The company I have, it's called Gorilla Mind, and the product is basically based around capable of retaining information, memory formations at its peak, And you take it, like say if you want to do something and be at your peak, take it an hour, two hours before? CPAP. my tongue down so it keeps my airway open oh nice it's amazing yeah i think uh that's one of the most overlooked silent killers of muscular guys yes and fat people yep yeah because you don't

48:45 sleep with it on your face for a while? and they say, this thing sucks. Who wants like a vacuum cleaner with you? Right, right, right. Night and day. healthy guy otherwise and you're lean even if you're fucking shredded if you're a big guy 15 20 seconds at a time so he's like laying back to the audio and it was terrifying dude yeah you're just sitting there and all of us really

52:07 It knocks off your face. Sometimes, yeah. Yeah. i always wondered like how the fuck does anyone use this stuff i think it's a beard thing yeah strap that goes around my chin to keep it I find it better than tape. i was always tired and then i got it done well two things i got done one i got my nose fixed Or is that... It's never happened to me, but people say it's the worst thing ever and it makes them suicidal from how it feels

55:17 You feel like there's a hole in the middle of your face, like that kind of a deal? So he can turn one of his hands into a claw Jesus fuck Yeah, what the fuck sometimes i wonder when it comes to nature versus nurture of being a parent like how much it's just Like imagine the amount of resources of your income you're allocating towards these procedures with the amount of shit he's done.

57:33 But he has like fake abs, fake chest, fake everything. Oh, Jesus, look at that picture. Whoa, what is that? Oh, criminy. I don't know what this is about. That's so crazy, dude. Yeah she think she looks like she was a skeleton like there there's no question at all that this lady just telling her how bad this is there's a mental disorder read it she's a she must be very aware of

1:00:35 Oh, my God. God bless, huh? No, that's 2021. choices so that's her first video 2013 that's pretty thin yeah but at that point you're like Whereas now she looks like she's genuinely starving to death. are aware you're killing yourself very quickly while you're doing it. Oh. Yeah. It's such a strange thing. It's a shift of perception and consciousness

1:03:30 He was just going to get fucking massive, That's wild. And he was literally the pinnacle of the sport, 260, 70, fucking shredded. Yeah. It's more than 10, I believe. your entire infrastructure while you're supporting those loads because you're though you're squatting It's so crazy. Yeah. loves the lifestyle so the body weight, et cetera. Was he all tattooed up back then or was not as much?

1:07:10 so that's him bodybuilding. Yeah. He looked pretty fucking good. Yeah. If you click that Reddit one, It was called a PMMA, I think. look at that. So you might want to just type in PMMA and see, You have to. Yeah. But PMMA is literally like a filler, apparently. Penile girth. Oh, my God. Oh, God. That's like a nat. otherwise need to make the rest of your body a size you don't want it to be to get to that point

1:11:32 It's uncomfortable. it's like how the anorexic doesn't know. Oh, I thought you made a noise. What else you got? and stuck some stuff in there and this was like i don't know she probably had it done in the Has big lips usually she has thick skin and like a thick thick features, and it looks great Granted, we would still probably say breast implants are fine, even though that's like not to some severe degree but just like

1:14:47 this is something about your mouth you're doing your your mouth like your lips it seems sad just whatever it means to whatever your DNA signal is that picks up on that No, it wouldn't make any sense. Like, paint. So it's almost like when you're dating somebody it almost would be like prudent to be like let's see what you look like with nothing What the?

1:17:05 I mean, it's really weird, again, that it doesn't bother us at all, It's kind of funny that she experienced tooth decay and loss throughout her pregnancies. Front teeth broke. It's like that's a ballsy move to put that out to the whole world Like scroll it. It's just at the bottom. He said genetics and mediocre nutrition Hmm. Veneers, I think, are becoming more popular in men now.

1:19:39 and stuff I mean man you get hit in the head with a fucking elbow or a knee or something like that He just smashed people's teeth out after he knocked a few guys' teeth out. What do you think's next for McGregor after the little loss streak? problem was he went into that fight with a cracked shin. checked it and that was the same leg that eventually cracked and then you know connor to his credit

1:21:00 it's from a check, and you see it immediately. Meaning they don't set it up with punches, just throw – and you catch it up here and they hit you with this part, boy, they're going to lose every time. They feel it, but not as much. So you just thunk, th thunk it's just so hard ass yeah you know punching you in the ass is you know there's a lot of meat there yeah but your

1:24:25 You know? horrible yeah you can't do anything about that like you can only toughen that up so much but more than i do it gets so efficient now because you have people working for you kind of thing and Bert Kreischer. those is fucking you want to talk about a brutal cardio workout 20 20 second sprint, 10 second rest, 20 second sprint, 10 second rest.

1:27:47 And then once I get loose enough to the fact that I feel like I can, so it's like there's something to that as well as hitting things. No, no. definitely a huge disparity between the guys like coleman who trained mental full board low reps too I had a studio that was set up in one part of this warehouse So it's all just kettlebell muscles, though. fucking strong but most of the time when you see him like maybe he'll have like a 70 pound kettlebell

1:31:20 Yeah. It's hard to say. full body you know functional strength exercises that's a real weight right joe They got rid of that dude. i get i don't know how he helped his brother like what did he do his brother was getting they were I mean, I don't know. realizing that their ratings are dog shit yeah and that having these highly polarizing editorial I used to look at them as like this is how I get the news.

1:34:49 Yeah. Yeah, like the amount of trying to sell it was just absurd. Do you think he's funny? to think people are going to buy it. He put heavy in quotes, and he didn't delete the post either. You've been there every day after sure that is obviously so fake crashes him into the ground like the way they hit Yeah, if you're used to using kettlebells But then you see like a real bodybuilder using a hundred pound dumbbell.

1:37:24 Yeah, definitely. But it's odd. There's a strength is are stupid strong, and they don't even look that big. Yeah, yeah, definitely. 15 pounds heavier than me. And we used to do these drills, this knee on belly drill. The knee on But then when we reversed it and I was on top of him, I would just go flying. They're so used to manipulating bodies and they're so used to just just being able to push things

1:39:47 harder like there's things you can do like cable drills there's some explosive plyometrics that he knocked out Stylebender in a kickboxing built different he hits people and just sends them flying like everybody goes unconscious Everybody goes unconscious. Yeah. Watch this. Sometimes the UFC actually stops the knockout blow from being put online. I couldn't disagree more.

1:42:36 promoting it there it is watch this boom i mean dude's like what the fuck just happened watch champion in two weight classes. So just wanted to maintain that. Yeah. Well, I mean, not just And so they've been enhancing each other's skill set. pound title and was knocking people out at Yeah. But Adesanya is just so smart, man. Because Costa's a berserker.

1:45:37 And his leg was trashed early in that fight. He came up with all these excuses, and he wanted a rematch right away like The real big one. I'm really about to fight Stylebender for the fucking world title. And we're back. Do you cut it off at a certain time so you don't have to pee in the middle of the night? I drink so much water. Yeah, you might want to try it is a glycerol this is a product

1:48:50 you know, if I drink a glass of water and it's 10 o'clock at night, I know, But then I know I'll have to pee. That's why I saw you with that big-ass jug. Yeah, I just make sure I piss with higher frequency before bed. your electrolyte intake a bit too like forcing your body to hold more water And if I'm not drinking water, I'm drinking something like Zevia, you know, which is like

1:50:56 Like our grocery stores are like a fraction of what you have available here Is the thought that the diet stuff's bad for you? You have to show proof of vaccination to get into pretty much everything except grocery stores. You have to get a PCR test, and it has to be negative. april 20th of 2020 and then it it was April 20th of 2021. war zone meet you in blaine washington bro seattle is a war zone yeah it is so wild there now it's

1:54:03 Like, what are you talking about? Something about that Pacific Northwest. that is because of that, but there's not that much violence, um, in Vancouver, but there is, yeah so like even to live in like a you know relatively chaotic area of downtown and get San Francisco is the worst. It's all these liberal cities too, which used to be amazing just a few years ago.

1:57:16 another country yeah look that's funny i'm like saying you if you marry some American lady, how difficult? Like if you want to sneak over from Haiti, like all those people coming from Haiti, get this chick cuz I know a guy who did marry a girl who came over from Russia You guys are real close. Like, how much do you like to fuck a bro? But I have a friend who's married, and him and his wife have different bank accounts,

1:59:47 A lease showing a joint tenancy of a common residence. It's a bona fide marriage. You can't tell me what the fuck a fraudulent marriage is. Scroll back down to what we were just looking at. That's funny. Being the guy who completely dismantles relationships and decides. want to have to go down that path to get find yourself a nice texas lady settle down yeah

2:02:24 You have a boat. You say, you have a boot. It took like, and also, man, Mmm, and just like certain things like that people would clue Yeah, and if you look at him before Thor 1, it was like a night and day difference. The one on the left, he doesn't even look like he's 20. yeah that's crazy um that he does have a great frame for it, though. with unrealistic body image,

2:05:20 the physique we're told to be mean to someone who's overweight but to their like viral tiktok videos that are like be okay with being like a fat fuck and like, you know, Yeah. Yeah. But that's all you have to do is just have great cardio. One thing I thought that was really interesting is he mentioned the use of fluvoxamine in attenuating the COVID. COVID-19, yeah.

2:09:20 But now people get it and they get it in their head. And then the next one, she's super lean and healthy. And people get pissed. And they're like, you suck for. But it's all, she didn't do surgery. Bro, she's stunning. Yeah. Yeah. So I used to force feed the shit out of myself. Yeah, and that was just like fat. There you go. And so is that, like, your peak bodybuilding days?

2:12:53 Yeah, there's more androgen receptors in there that steroids bind to. There's like different muscle groups that have like an effect. Because you got rid of it pretty quick, right? Okay. it intermittently like using it every four days like to use it after your hardest workouts or Whereas like GH is just an unregulated amount of hormone getting introduced

2:16:02 frequently you want the benefits because if you're using this if you were just using gh just haphazardly all the time hypothetically if you have no Because some people, too, they overdo it, And so then he was fighting with no hormones. It's crazy. of how even as you get older some of of these processes downregulate to like, I think, conserve There's an Israeli university that did a protocol which was for 90 days

2:20:00 No, I have not. glutton. I will eat it's like full board. I'm coma-ing I'm going ham. meat I don't see like a distended belly yeah but if I eat pasta I'm like I think some of it is like It's like flour and water. And I disproportionately eat so much of it that I know it's gonna make me feel sick too and it's like you know gonna be like pro fucking cancer pro get fat pro everything that I don't

2:22:54 When I did that one month of January, I'm going to do it again this year as well, where I've never done carnivore. the brain fog is just like another 20% added and you lose like instantly like 10 pounds of water, like out of the muscle specifically from and then just around the workout sessions And for whatever reason, that combination seems to be pretty common.

2:25:47 and then be back into keto relatively quick ideally, I would think. You'd have to experiment, I guess, because ultimately I'm sure you can tell a dramatic difference when you, But do you like have to go suddenly at random times that are inconvenient? But one thing that I did notice is there were certain times that I went to the bathroom like, You're like, what is happening?

2:27:53 I was going to say hopefully you had that for one of them toilet seat things. It's nice. No, no, no. It puts two fingers up there and does that. But it cleans your butt well. Dude, time but uh time efficiency though too i can imagine like It's not for washing. I don't know. Of course they can. I was a young boy. Yeah. moving forward or like well then it became uh it's like different things turn you on you know

2:31:32 the 80s they all had flat butts yeah and they were the hottest women in the world yeah nobody cared body part is so significantly more attractive yeah like great calves are like okay you know Carrying more fat would allow her to get through her pregnancy better, because a lot of times women lose – well, sometimes they gain weight, that is going to make it which is that's really what it's all about yeah it makes sense that's

2:33:52 Some of them like skinny guys. into pant like she wears garters or something like that like garters are weird like why is that sexy yeah it's definitely good being in a guy for sure because you get so many more things to play with from that aspect for sure. he was an incel? Maybe he shot people. Right. Yeah. It's unfair. I don't really give a shit if she's

2:37:37 for a woman who's you know driven yeah well that's the thing is like some women Yeah. going to take? Well, see, that's what women are worried about women are worried about the idea of where I'm going because it's like if we have two different paths Like, he made all that money, sort of. the amount of efficiency you gain out of a supportive partner who's taking like the tedious

2:40:32 like the amount of time that you save and not like going on dates and you know trying to find the one house you come home it saves a lot of time and you know also when you're working really hard like how did you eventually end up with the partner that you deemed like best i guess well my problem is i've never had goals oh really i just work yeah i just

2:42:43 It wasn't like, I want to sell out arenas. And that has worked for me. and I want to have my own house. this amazing position, but it's not like you I just did it. Like your way is going to be different from that guy's way. You just got to do it, and hopefully it works. It's just silly. But it was never at any point in time a goal. It's crazy that it's the number one podcast in the world, but it's still, it's the same thing.

2:46:45 gets and just works with me because other people won't work with you know it's like relationships It's like, Yeah. If you're working so hard to convince someone that you're awesome, but you're really just kind of bullshitting, than what they are for the first little bit. Yeah. she fucking got me i'm like really he goes yeah man she fucking got me like I'm like, really? He goes, yeah, man. She fucking got me. Like, I thought she was a different person.

2:48:57 And she's telling him what's going to happen, what you're going to do. And he thinks it's just like she grew up with this predatory idea of what a marriage is. And now he's paying her for, you know, 18 years. that he's wealthy he's wealthy and she lived with him and they were together for a couple of years And when you have $39 billion, just leave a little bit of it in the bank and it's just

2:51:34 him off probably yeah isn't that funny they all have like the the race to space and then also like can't help but perceive that there is some sort of competitive thing around it yeah and it's like She is smoking hot. Take the fatal drop. he's probably the same age probably Yeah. Probably similar, right? Jesus Christ. Yeah. He was always dating like really young girls deep into his 60s and shit.

2:54:37 And that's where you bring in the old inspector who tells you if it's a legit relationship or not. There should be. No, there might be something in there. you're like, I think I can fuck this guy. can eventually you know charm your way to the point where this guy wants to fuck you and he I mean, maybe they're attracted to the power and the money. with, like, some fucking rickety old man

2:56:59 old rickety old women. definitely a comfort in knowing that you've got like the leveraged position do you have like But they sort of like, I do have goals and they transition, You know, cause you didn't do your goal. the input relative to the output of the what result I was getting. So I started to change my Yeah. Yeah. And then when the numbers started rolling in,

3:00:44 once a week then you'll have more people pay attention That's what I'd said to a lot of my comedian friends Yeah. and I'm like, and LA is kind of fucked. the smartest guy in the world moves here people People are like, hmm. Maybe I should listen. who feel like they're impactful in some like actual way that's improving lives. So like for on like interpreting blood or getting prevented a medicine, doing stuff that's actually impactful,

3:04:15 and then we're able to find it and fix it for them or something like that kind of stuff is extrapolating or like parsing out information from newest literature that's imparting information on somebody that's going to save years off their life, improve their quality maybe he's like a biological freak. uh, Thanks for having me. We'll do it again. We'll do it again if you can get out of your fucking communist shithole of the country. Yeah, let's very unusual. You're very unique. And so I'm glad we got a chance to do this. No, me too. Thanks for having me.

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