Joe Rogan Experience #1754 — Suzanne Santo Transcript

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0:00 the Joe Rogan experience And then they want to find other people that agree with them. They're very uncomfortable with things being like in a state of flux. Those folks haven't had to deal with pressure. That's rough. And then when like time stopped last year, I was like, oh, man, I got all this baggage. Like, the more I'm like, I have no control over what's happening.

3:39 I see what you're saying. It's the weirdest thing about human nature. Well, you're very kind. That's why you're a very kind person. But we don't all start at the same starting point that's ah, and I mentioned this earlier, like I have to create, I have to create, I have to make music can really struggle with who the fuck they are you don't get the thing that you love to do you

7:31 poor choices socially, like have an understanding and have discernment. We have to be really careful about that. regardless of how you feel about vaccines, they make it less severe there was a New York Times piece about it the other day. because here's the thing most people that are like severely overweight are like i'm again not you're beautiful as you are,

10:46 But why? And it's very sensitive. uncomfortable or i'm miserable or well then there's another conversation to be had but again We're trying to avoid people having a bad feeling. break, family was over and there was a lot of food and I ate like a whole pie. Oh, no. But I work it off. Did you get a headache or anything? At least one pie. too much high,

14:01 If I just go three days Yeah, but all your chemicals are fucked up. Whatever makes you you. you're going to eat like a dickhead. and then tomorrow because I ate your body's like But they're so good. Yeah. you know, baby eating pizza for the first time how adorable is that that little face can you play it for me Just from that ad. I know. Have you ever had any of that?

17:50 Is that what it's called? fucking with it they've turned into a very high yield grain yeah but it has more of these It's amazing. Yeah. she didn't know how it looks pretty cool and they're like yeah i'm the best you know and and like no adult would ever say that Like you could have like five kids from the same family and they'll have yeah. It's nature and nurture.

21:26 You have to find your bad stuff. That's so crazy. 17. They let me go to Tokyo when I was like going to bars and stuff. That's so crazy. It's not Jamie's fault. You could have? There's a little bit of feedback. and I was like, mom, dad, I drank a lot. And so I think we had a trust and, like I wasn't going to be stupid. You know, and Jonathan Haidt, he's one of those guys that's into, like, free-range children.

23:52 I mean, the question is, eight or nine or something like that i'm not sure how old i was i don't totally remember Yeah. You just be like, oh, don't go to that house you know it was just kind of like it was just like common knowledge that um you know to to know where your um our backyard every day and army fatigues and a b gun. And I always got a sick feeling every time I saw him.

26:30 And like, I mean, it's just, you know, I look back at that stuff and it's very sad. Oh. other end. And I didn't have any shoes on. And this one boy, I can't remember his name, but he And I ran up to my room and I put my shoes on. And, you know, later this kid was like herding animals in his treehouse. Like he I remember he like blew up a squirrel. They try to catch strays.

30:07 You know, what is the story? What is the, um, I think the world is different. I mean, She was found naked and covered in coal in a coal storage area of a home in Loa, Utah on December 18th. There was like 10 girls. Holy fuck. If you look at human history, I mean, I think people have been doing that kind of thing to people forever. know just an advanced primate but i think with that said like there's a i feel and maybe i don't

32:51 you're like I gotta get out of here yeah I'll see you later well people can pretend to have Like, they'll sell you something. Oh, man. This is called Mercy and Your Nurse Outside. Yeah, it could be any one of us with a broken mind With his keep outside and his poison milk And it gets so hard to see with my history standing in front of me. You win some, you lose some You Cry about things that used to be fun, but you're changing.

37:34 It's some new shit. with us oh really well when you guys did midnight rider that one time you love it You know, we've been hanging out in the studio a little bit. It was. That's not true. it looks beautiful. When he plays that guitar, mean signature and his voice is so good yes i a couple like a month ago was it a couple weeks So I just got to play.

40:48 there's two of them this is his court you know you i mean it's like it well he's from here you know this is this is his court you and just like read them while you're walking? No, no. Those are two separate experiences. The minute I pick this thing up that has me on a leash, I feel like I've lost my agency and I never know what's going to happen. You see a number.

42:58 But I also get my dopamine from playing Scrabble. that's so unrealistic. Because most of the time there's not a solution. A lot of people, they can push aside the negativity It's just love. They got fired from their job and they're fucking angry. oh, that person's a moron. I don't think they're correct. Or maybe that person's smarter than me. That's that Snoop Dogg weed.

45:50 I know you would. you know, I want to be in nature. I just want to be out of this shit. Cheers. Cheers. I want to be in nature. Get in there. No, it's a Juul with nicotine. Oh. Yeah, I guess I am a nicotine addict? No, I just. Is that Juul with marijuana? No, it's a Juul with nicotine. I know, it's so bad. Like a week and then I'll just be away no more. I don't I think it's probably better

47:36 like him a lot. If not for him, none of this would be Oh, my gosh. He may have in the past. And so they were attributing it to vaping. of something else. And I should something. It grounds me, I think. EVALI But is there a story that says. use of e-cigarette or vaping products i guess i'm looking for like a dumb story and this is like a Okay, here's one thing I do know. A surge of severe lung ailments has baffled doctors and public health experts.

51:03 Yeah. Nicotine gives you the greatest head rush. that they were putting the juice or the oil or what have you in, If it was regulated, Is that what they're saying? those ones that look like a lunchbox and that's something to be like me with pie yeah like your pie exactly my situation so you know know. Oh, you mean like a flip phone? No, it's like What a great dude.

53:39 Because I would say we would send each other memes. Does it tell time? The game. people with it I bet the battery life is like four days that's hilarious he 100 hours. I didn't mean that, T-Mobile. It was a joke. not like a ridiculous amount what are you listening to? You know, but sometimes it's done really well. myself where I was driving Like I was so invested in it.

57:10 Pardon me. Sure. Like books that are- I don't know, comic books though. It's tattooed on my ass. Right. Which is the dumbest fucking thing I've ever heard of in my life. It was really weird. You know, it was like teen romance drama. What? It's crazy. It's like, you know what we're talking about? So they align themselves with this guy. actually an egregious imbalance

1:01:08 because i i really did find my king and he's something else um and i've never felt this But I, you know, I'll speak for myself. Like me looking out for me. And it's so cool. Like, I love it. Do you think that, uh, first first of all that's awesome i'm super happy for you like where does it go next? The Madness of Crowds. It's genius. whenever they were about to collapse whether it's ancient rome ancient greece they got affixed on

1:04:53 I want to wear a dress. The only thing that fucks me up is the idea of accountability and discipline. It's not me. Soft men create hard times. I don't remember who was the author of that, everybody calms down a little bit there's like this battle going on back and forth but i i appreciate your um uh peaceful way of of of approaching that And there's a lot of confusion as to, like, what that requires.

1:07:46 2021. You have to be able to just say what you want. But lately I've felt squelched. The problem with expressing yourself about any controversial subject Just nasty, evil, a person to you that disagrees with you. you go through the history of humans All the mean stuff is mean but it's part of it. It's because we don't know what the fuck we're doing yet

1:12:18 Whatever new guys in town because they're usually cheaper anyway. we're trying to keep our way of communicating. Like you've sent me down the trail. We're running towards a cliff. And I'm like, Makes me feel like I'm going to cry. You know. But you can't be a cunt. reinforcement. If you're a person who's discerning, you know, like you're really thinking about everything you say and everything you do and you want to make sure that you're a solider, if you're a person who's discerning, you're really thinking about everything you say and everything you do,

1:15:32 I think that, yeah, it's a lonely time in that way, you know? out to balls of steel balls of steel one dude introduced me to you when you guys are doing Thank you. and like with, there's still people out there that are just being nice to each other it's going to come a time, whether it's 10 years We can talk about that It's still really funny Will Ferrell is a funny

1:17:57 fucking hilarious movie. You know, I didn't tell you this, but so I'd never seen news radio until recently. now you know and like i mean were you doing a lot of comedy then oh yeah yeah i was um It was five. bright side of it but the He was always like there with Phil. Crazy in a good way. Like they had done a lot, have any issue with him doing it because they they trusted him it's the reason

1:21:09 Yeah, yeah, yeah. i'm the luckiest bitch ever so it's weird yeah well that's part of it but also like i think Yeah. Then I turn on myself. Yeah, but obviously it's up to you to balance that. I'm working on or something else. I'm doing that's hard to do, I'll turn to myself. That's a great phrase. might be your thing try it so i'm doing my best work i've ever done so Suzanne Zento is doing her best work she's ever done and I'm existing

1:24:20 see you can't do this shit It was so hard. And the thing is, when I curse in my songs, I'm not doing it just to do it. they're paying me money and like i don't i don't want to fuck this up by saying fuck. It's like, well, that means they've listened. But you couldn't say goddamn and stuff like that. I know, I know. Zeus was the goddamn man. He's here.

1:26:58 Hulk, bitch! Call your friend! This whole time she could do all the things, but she was waiting. He was Odin? Here's the thing with the Avengers. Emo Hulk. I'd fall in love. I know. He's beautiful. It's an experience. He's gorgeous. I know. His grandparents, his grandpappy's grandpappy was definitely a Viking. But if you weren't in love. In the most noble way possible

1:29:43 I didn't know He's the fucking nicest guy of all time. Jay Rogan. When you meet someone who's famous, you never met them. My friend's wife Well, that's annoying. I got recognized in the nail salon and I think I kept her for too long But then you don't talk to them afterwards. It's just what you don't want is to feel like you're the shit. but how so?

1:33:03 you know, And like, you know... If you go back to like your early days. They feel like there's a disproportionate relationship, a label? Everybody seems to. in October did you you really? Yeah. It was delicious. Elk meat's the best meat because you don't have to worry about trichinosis, so you don't have to cook it to 165 degrees. Steve Rinella got trichinosis. Oh shit.

1:37:05 Davy Crockett bear meat the 1700s. preferred now, whereas black bear meat... and it's like... Yeah, I've seen that. And alpha gal is an allergy to red meat. It depends if you know what happened. And then he eventually got them to test and figure out that it was Lyme disease. Look up Meniere's disease? Look up Meniere's No, that's not it? In all your systems.

1:39:57 I did this sci-fi show a long time ago. But this doctor was saying that some people, they have hallucinations. Ticks are parasites. That's horrible. It's a terrifying thought, but it happens. whether it's weak psychologically, how to react and how to behave. specific groups be for the foreseeable future, and I'm just going to operate on the idea that all this

1:43:51 And they figured out some parameters where they felt like they could foresee how human beings could go apeshit with power and how they could correct for that. to listen to those folks and if those if they get shut down if they get shut down left and right But there is. They can decide to change. You don't have to believe that. reacted in the way they did and started shutting things down. The problem is that we're all willing to consider what a small percentage of people are furious about rather than what we think.

1:46:45 you when they're talking about this material they're not citing specific bits have you noticed I, you know, I was in my bubble in LA and, and I saw that you and Dave were doing stand-up at Stubbs and I hadn't, you know, the only ones that didn't get that night i don't know if i did who fucking knows like you we but That's hilarious. And you got to see him in a historical time.

1:49:36 And he developed that set that people saw on this last thing. seems like it gets pretty hot here you know and I was driving down some street. I mean, this is a true story. This is fucking wild to me. a one-bedroom apartment in LA so I have this like really cute little cottage house with a big backyard can't correct go out you can't take a risk and this idea that you're going to control if you

1:52:43 Everybody I know, but they were sick for two days. Yeah, go pee. Was this on No Agenda? they concentrate all of it I will. to trends. You're looking at online It's going wild. What'd they say? Hmm. To look online instantly if Edward Snowden didn't tell us about of all of the terms and conditions you've you've done so like right it's checking your email and

1:57:06 I bet you would love this. know like over the antenna the advertisements are so different and i like you don't even realize it right but i have had conversations with you or with a lot of people where i'm talking about something and And when they get really tribal, they don't want to admit that maybe they don't totally understand what's happening. they can just listen to that bitch's

1:58:49 Why would you just use it on potential criminals or enemies of the state or what have you? We're going to send the ads to their phones. Well, some of them you do. There's a bunch of ads you don't fall for. Like, when you sign your cell phone thing, there's all kinds of bullshit in there. I think they're from L.A. Oh, thank you, sir. There's nowhere near your eyelashes.

2:00:28 Are they still there? No, no, no. That should be illegal. I'm with the state. The state wants You flip it. Delta 8. I got a story about Delta 8. That stuff's nonsense. That should be illegal. Either go to war or stay home. And then it came out on Thursday. And I didn't know what I was getting into because it was street legal, 70? I'm a 5 insane. That's insane. I've seen it.

2:02:39 It's so potent. I'm sorry. He's the best one handed Googler the world's ever known. Okay, cool. Did you ever hear that story about a monk that, I forget who went to visit him and gave him LSD. He goes, ha, ha, ha, ha. It sounds like a fun thing to say. that have a weird understanding of how things work. That makes sense. Yeah. Eddie Blocked. Some people can't get high from eating marijuana

2:05:33 Oh, yeah, of course. What goes up must come down. you're using them for sexual purposes be sure to wait at least that long before penetration play are just scared of their butts. Well, I'm not talking Oh, suppositories that answer to better, less painful sex. I always feel like I can't tell if it does anything. them find out what that is they tell you to go on like an elimination diet like maybe you go all

2:08:13 that's healthy for I take a topical. Yeah, 100%. take uh gummies cool yeah i take the cbd md has like super potent gummies and i'll take like 10 The problem with that is if you have a square job, like if you work somewhere where they're And you're like, please. People are happy. are activated by good food. Yeah. And also and oh yeah friendship all that stuff in the good

2:10:56 You think it's bullshit? This is funny. Recently You're eating dirt. It's fulvic acid No, Nick! And you couldn't get it on Amazon. Someone could literally sell dirt. this is a thing please run it by me there's always someone And I keep a fairly, you know, like concise diet, give or take, getting stoned, eating cereal at midnight. I like Golden Grahams too.

2:13:18 And I put honey on that. No, you have no sugar. Give me the tiramisu. Tiramisu is my all-time favorite. I even compote on it to go with the tiramisu. on the top When done well. That's what we have to be. That's the problem. I want to conquer this fucking cherry pie. Yeah. No, but I had the same dream that I was late. It's great. I don't want to shame you.

2:16:26 That's real cool. I was actually shooting baskets last night for the first time in about three years. But it wouldn't be the same. No, it was... I love pool. I've played a lot, but I won't make fun of you. I know. Don't I know it. I mean, it's like a delicacy. We're not playing slop. When they gamble on nine ball, they play all the balls wild. that all the balls are wild.

2:19:22 But here's the thing. But there's something fun about watching a nine ball ricochet around a fucking table how good someone is at nine ball and then you see them at ten ball. Like there's a guy named Efren Reyes, you had a way better sense of where the ball was going 100%. 100%. Joe, you're so right. But I can. I have the skill. I know how to play pool. I'm actually doubting myself, you know, I'm like, I'm not going to make this, but I can, like,

2:21:42 I, the mental game is everything i mean you know yeah you know Making war on Suzanne. Dude, we've been talking for almost three fucking hours. No. There's no, I mean, it's usually generally around three hours everyone has to pee. Yeah. out. over holes. Isn't that nuts? Sorry Only the legal stuff we edit out. coming towards your mouth and your senses

2:24:48 It is. Well, if you have candida, that there's more bacteria living in your gut to it. It's delicious. what this is. I agree. exercise in a way that your body is very important to you. I don't think you feel it harder when you're a kid. I'm 54. Just like a trash bag. There was a lot of acceleration not under control. You just feel like shit for whatever random reason.

2:28:48 Yeah. Yeah. will shut up, bitch. methods and music. And so I was married to this narrative that wasn't necessarily true. And it was mostly mental. Because your brain is—it's your repressed emotions, and they're putting it somewhere. I mean, I've read his books and I've watched a bunch of YouTube videos, residual whether it's you know you were talking about jujitsu and oxygen deprivation from like holds and things right um i could just speak for myself i'm not an expert but when i would

2:32:33 That's the thing. Our bodies are really incredible. So I'm going to have this and this. Do they help? So this is what I'm saying. Like when have you ever been alive where people are this fucking tense I mean, it became a real goddamn shit show for those folks. There's so many teachers out there that are 100%. And I know people that got this new one, Omicron, and it's been nothing for them.

2:36:33 and they kind of abandoned that. blizzard well a hurricane would they say blizzard blizzard you know i I got caught on to the Alex Berenson stuff in his research. But I. This could be the end. But if you have had previous infection to COVID, you may not necessarily be immune to Omicron. positive when he died but he was fucked How many people are in the UK?

2:39:40 and I don't remember, like, two whole days. is so manipulative in terms of fear mongering and trying to get us to think and positivity. If you say a thousand people died this week from COVID, way more people are going to read even that crazy lady on CNN, that Asian lady that's always talking about doom and gloom, You heard that? But also you're ingesting your own.

2:42:30 I want to fucking study. Like all that stuff makes no sense to me. to wanting it to be worked out We should play golf with Jamie. It's possible, right? It's a sick game. Their eyes light up. Is it meditative for you? How are you with putt putt? at him he's a robot over there he's like that guy that winds up killing that dude No, no, no, I have. Oh. But it goes

2:45:08 I did. did you play the Matrix video games? The problem with the matrix is like uh I know, but I mean... Yeah. He's the baddest because we had never seen anything like that before 1979 sigourney weaver it's one of the It's just so good. She saves the earth from the evil fucking. Yeah. Yeah. I got to work with Sigourney Weaver once, back when I was an actor.

2:48:11 Jamie's fancy. I could not think of stationary. This is bad. I was like, what is What is it? Stationary. Stationary. Thank you. I could not think of stationary. Cartier. Yeah, she's a beast. right? I was going to say also an avatar. i did you know it's funny we were talking about 3d the other day and i forgot about avatar 3d We went to Best Buy looking at TVs, and they had a 3D TV.

2:49:48 I was just at the Verizon store the other day. You put glasses on and inside the glasses, it's like a screen. it's crazy you're wearing something So you can see, if you look down, you see your shirt. You should be freaked out. It freaked there's something that But this is one of those things that Apple doesn't have yet. I'm interested in, though? I'm interested in

2:52:20 You know? But now there's like 12, 20. cat williams had this line was talking about well, they trick you that there's 24 hours in a day. And he's like, there ain't 24 hours in a day. it just does yes it doesn't mean that you should just like think about nothing other than what pleases you and allow the world to go to shit around you. It's like that's bad for all of us.

2:55:02 Earth, a certain amount of people, There's too many people living in poverty. socioeconomic policies, all these different things, it all happens to be and it was really scary and you know i lived in california for almost 20 years they've caused a right? You know, you want to be informed, right? Interesting. And I'm not a conspiracy theorist. You hate immigrants. And they shove some

2:58:12 It's not good if someone's violent. We all It's corrupt at the ground level because in order to run for Congress, it's up. No one has said, oh, well, you have to have a major machine behind you What if someone who was already a big social media person... So they've gone from being in school to graduate school to eventually teaching to like they're a

3:00:09 There's some people that are really good at being professional provokers. I'm dumb as fuck. Trust me. Just shut the fuck up. And that's the same place with- Well, the definition of tough guy is fleeting. Correct. Remember the lasso of truth? As your friend. I understand. kind of frustrated and then poof. She's amazing. And she says, listen, would it be okay if maybe I do this thing and I'll put out flyers

3:03:06 Isn't she from Alaska? like yourself be to me whether it's joey diaz or you or many of my friends eddie bravo or you know ari shafir We are. Yeah. more than a few hangouts like you have to hang out with them for like months and months like Rock stars are the most inundated. I was out of town. It's so crazy. Okay, okay. Yeah, it's wonderful. Like you can't take any of this shit with you, right?

3:07:28 direction but at the same time like I'm sure you could feel it in every cell of your body. And, you know, Gary does this thing during his shows and I love him for this fuck with your shit Just have some fun. there are portals to the rest of the world they sure are yeah and you always want to check in 25% annoyed he's a sweetheart They thought something was changing in the calendar.

3:10:33 it's not that long ago 2012 was not that long ago I think that's the whole. We were like, this is supposed to be the end of the world. It's been really fun. but like, And it's true. me like I I was I you you like you grabbed my soul and reminded me of something that is very style or whatever it is like all that stuff like is exciting it makes you feel

3:14:30 We're at this point where our greatest joy is a TikTok video or some shit that didn't take much time. And people didn't try that hard. There's a guy who is on Lex Friedman's podcast this week. is a path to understand yourself so that you can more honestly assess what life is. They all kind of hitch their wagon to the thing. Of course. actor is being a bullshit artist right you literally have to be the best faker they all

3:17:06 charitable we gotta be nice to each other agreed that's that's like what a lot of is missing from But then that person will check in on Twitter and Twitter will let everybody know that you're a piece of shit and probably an anti-vaxxer. then they don't believe that there really are white supremacists. that white girls should be allowed to wear hoops.

3:18:41 Then shut the fuck up. Do you use a cell phone made That disregards the individual. Should you play one more song and we'll wrap this bitch up? At least. Oh shit. God, God, no. Because I don't drink that much anymore. Okay, deal. I've been thinking, why don't I have some sort of promotions group? just like a charitable thing like i'm not just promote everybody you are the renaissance of

3:22:18 Okay. And everything you love just dash on the ground So why are you still waiting outside so what you gonna do Yeah, and I've had my conscience rip me apart too You're still waiting outside. God damn it, that was good. Holy shit. yeah it is if it comes to like two goats in one room Probably not. Thanks, Joe. Bye.