Joe Rogan Experience #1757 — Dr. Robert Malone, MD Transcript

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0:00 the joe rogan experience train by day joe rogan podcast by night all day They find a niche. Dealing with this? Okay. So I'm going to do the short version. guy named Bob Cardiff and another guy named Mary Gardner that were working with retroviruses and And that kind of kicked off the whole vaccine effort for AIDS. So that's kind of what I cut my teeth on.

4:28 And I'd been accepted into a program at UC San Diego that had two of the top gene therapy specialists. I really wanted to do gene therapy with retroviruses. That was what to manufacture RNA and structure it and eventually put it into cells. And that, This is Pulse Electrical Fields. And the big epiphany there was that the world is full of these academic thought leaders that publish in big journals and stuff.

7:53 80 to $120 million contracts in vaccines and biodefense. I've spent countless hours at the I've dealt with him my whole career. you for not going along with whatever the tech narrative is, because tech clearly has a censorship And the point is made just what you just made. So the point that I think is kind of succinct on this is if my voice, if there's no

11:16 even though I'm pointing out scientific facts that may be inconvenient, then who is? rights of free speech. I've seen people call you a crazy person and criticize you, but with no specific thing to point to. It was there any tweets where they said that this is misleading or anything. No, no And it was – there was actually two events of deplatforming in LinkedIn.

14:40 being harmonized in their messaging globally. I mean, I travel a lot. I see the same, and I have physicians coming to me all the time about what they're experiencing. That's right. then therefore they were going to let me go. Now then subsequently I got dropped again and a phone call was made and they got put on. In that case, the sin was that one of their

16:47 Washington Times in which we criticized Biden policy on vaccines and said that they should Alliance group that summarizes all the malfeasance and data manipulation the criteria. So, you know, my position all the way through this comes off of the platform of they will elicit vaccine hesitance. So it can't be discussed. But that's the fundamental background.

20:11 and you see that dissenting opinion immediately silenced or at least immediately criticized So this is pre-lockdown, February of 20? But it goes back further than that. I worked with him through prior outbreaks. And so it was then that I turned my attention to this, started modeling information from China and everywhere else. I knew all about this virus. I knew, you know,

23:25 Reduction Agency. So this is another drug combination. Now, I work with all these folks Why do you think that is? What do you think is going on with the pushback on ivermectin? The behaviors, the actions, the correspondence, these bizarre things like, you know, don't you know it's a horse drug, y'all? the guy that came out with the original protocol, the Zlenko protocol,

26:12 And who is she? Janet Woodcock was head of Operation Warp Speed for drugs and until very It's about this high. for this virus. Now, that's false. Hydroxychloroquine was known to be effective and I sent it into my buddies at the CIA and at the ASPR, at the Assistant Secretary for The only thing – you know, this is a journalist problem. What is the active committee? This is the NIH committee that's guiding the clinical trials for these various repurposed and novel drugs.

31:05 five days and 600 micrograms per kg. That's the current dosing in active six. But there is clearly So the original SARS, is it 90% similar to SARS-CoV-2? Yeah. So were they using ivermectin as well? So what they did do, what we do know, and there's some backstory to this that we could It was done in coordination with WHO and whatever was in those packages was rumored to include ivermectin.

34:34 I don't know what they said. I wasn't invited. All I know is that immediately afterwards, So this was so early on in the pandemic. How did they, did you wind up being hospitalized? Nope. I had long COVID. With the second dose, I developed stage three hypertension with systolic blood pressure the myocarditis in the children, in male children in particular. But they're all known on the list

38:12 Well, it doesn't make sense either. What we know about natural immunity is that natural immunity, I wouldn't expect anything different. But the CDC recently disputed this, didn't they? It was a fascinating play. So the It's a CDC study. Having recovered from COVID. and so you're getting this vaccine, you probably were thinking, Did she aspirate before she shot it into you?

42:05 hole. Yes, that's my favorite rabbit hole. Because the fake set, remember? Yeah. So, you know, there is there. OK, so, you know, Joe, you're in media. I guess what what we're But, okay, and that was? that they're stepping in line with tech doing it with the pharmaceutical companies doing it Peter Robinson Yes. Can you explain it to people? that this organization that they had led the development of, which ties together big tech

45:28 That's also been deployed against climate skeptics. their respective national health organizations. So if CDC says the world is flat, Okay, so that's the kind of, if you want to unpack this whole thing, But it doesn't explain the global coordination because TNI is mostly Western. People are going to die because of this podcast. And very controversial opinions. But the only way to find out if someone's controversial opinions

50:41 And what was their sin? They were warning about lockdowns in the Great Barrington Declaration. That's what prompted that. And then you had Francis Collins recently coming on Fox News after these emails were foiled and brought out into the open and saying that if we had followed their advice, millions of people would have died. I mean, it was highly criticized in the beginning. People were really concerned that they weren't taking it seriously enough.

54:02 So here's an even more fun one. from this virus than the mortality in Israel. So that's a lower risk. have said, hmm, I can't say because there's too many confounding variables. However, it is a fascinating observation this is one of those situations, the more you look for it, the more you find, But the only thing that seems close to a reasonable outcome variable is all-cause mortality.

58:32 Which the FDA explicitly said in the licensure packet for Comirnaty is inadequate to detect rare adverse events. But what we see is this explosion of vaccine-associated deaths. And it could well be that an auto accident is vaccine related. per COVID death and that the government gives them money and that they're incentivized to The CDC made a determination in year one. This is why all of our

1:02:33 And so the extreme example, just to show the absurdity, It's not a question of what the hospital would do. It's a question of med codes. That seems insane. but our government has had a series of checkpoints where they have a job to do. And I know this And they didn't employ the standard requirements for testing and verification that pharma was doing its job that I would expect to experience as a clinical researcher on one of

1:06:25 Like, what is gastric distress? Stomachache. That's literally what it says in terms of the adverse effect. Gastric distress. Like, what is gastric distress? How is that possible? for bad stuff that might happen in a clinical trial and be mismanaged, et cetera, onto the whose responsibility is it to ensure that the data isn't contaminated and manipulated? The answer is

1:09:22 be undetected unless you did a laboratory test or, you know, maybe, And so people, if those things happen, oftentimes they get checked. But so it happens. There's all kinds of financial incentives to make bad stuff go away and highlight which things don't go into the database and whether or not, well, Canadians put out that I put in that Twitter post was all the different ways that the Pfizer data

1:13:30 OK. It's so crazy to even hear. Well, Joe, it's even deeper than that, okay? The guy has published more in his field than any other physician in history. didn't talk about vaccines. There's only one hospital on Maui, on the island of Maui. It's And they've kicked him out of the hospital. yet. Okay. We're just winding up on this one. So the other day, right before Christmas,

1:18:14 from Harvard Medical School, which I did. Okay. So I have to respond to all this stuff. to get my license taken away. What we're seeing across the United States and across the world It's crazy. overt malpractice. This kind of political weaponization of medical licensing boards is new. Now, here's the observation that I can make if we follow the because they're in the Imperial Valley and nobody cares. They're all poor. But in these urban environments, there is all these incentives for hospitals to treat COVID patients. And if people

1:22:24 These aren't? By hospitalists, I mean hospital-based Okay. it's not going to kill these kids or young adults. But that's being said in the absence of data. Right. He previously publishes basically on woke issues in the Chronicle of Higher Education. This is his incentive. There must be some reason why you're doing this. It's destroying public health in medicine.

1:26:44 It keeps getting cited as one in a thousand people have adverse events, including myocarditis. Oh, right. What are the things that connect these things? Okay. So what is it that drives menstruation? This looks really bad. not done according to the rules, all cobbled together and sent into the regulatory agencies the body. And it goes sitting around with 15 different Gandalfs. One of those bucket list things, I guess.

1:31:52 increasing the size of the population of Hasidic Jews is kind of important to you. And again, the point, what's the common variable? It's the ovary. This is why I say is just one of these adverse events. You picked out some of the other ones, the fatigue, brain Adenoviral-vectored vaccines have been in development for my entire life, 30 years. I call them lipoplexes. Lipid nanoparticles is another term.

1:35:26 microcoagulation or microcoagulopathy, the latter one being a disease of microcoagulation, The ability of blood to go through those tubes. That's peristalsis, the thing that brings it down through our esophagus. There's the whole cast. What is causing the autoimmune response in people? about the strokes. We talked about the brain fog. And it's known that spike will open the

1:39:20 Hence the brain fog. And that's also something that's happening to people with COVID as well. I said the spike protein. And then, right, just these things sticking out here. But I wanted to illustrate that it also has this little, it's like a catcher's glove that sits on top that is the receptor binding domain. never trigger fusion, which is one of the

1:43:09 And so what matters about that is all the things I've been talking about, about spike interacting with ACE2 and turning on ACE2, that can all still happen. It's all about making it more immunogenic. isn't right, okay, and it looks like a duck and it walks like a duck and it quacks like And then the comment, well, it's not a toxin. The question that we're all arguing about is how often and how bad.

1:47:03 Basically, they're indistinguishable. Long COVID So, you know, this, what you're asking again and again, because you are who you are, Yeah. shingles, it hurts. You don't miss it when you get it. But Epstein-Barr virus, other herpes viruses, cytomegalovirus, what are these all in common? They're latent DNA viruses. Okay, so what? suppressing the DNA viruses that we've all been parasitized by, like cytomegalovirus. And so you

1:50:34 deep understanding of this. with the mRNA vaccines. So something is happening, okay, that is causing release of T cell suppression, and what are the jabs doing to our immune system and how long does it last I'm a grandfather. to take him to a rheumatologist, an allergist, and see what they can do. Well, they do a bunch of tests and they say, oh, The other thing with the multiple jabs is that these are multiple jabs that are mismatched.

1:54:58 Because they're using that antigen, the ragweed pollen, It's causing deletion or downregulation of the There's this short-term issue. is, at least Peter McCullough said this, and I believe several other people have said this as well, that the immunity that you may have had to the alpha variant or the delta variant, it does not seem to work very well against Omicron.

1:57:21 which was the last phase. I know people who had the original version of COVID who have now gotten Omicron. And in my case, I had the original Wuhan strain So that's another thing. that you've had? So you're now opening up the big, big can of whoop-ass. Is that ADE? argue about endlessly, is that there's all kinds of things that can complicate this interpretation.

2:00:46 to detect whether or not it's happening, but didn't force them to do it. This is another one instead of vaccine development at the start of the outbreak when I got the call from Michael Callahan. I said, hmm, past history, ADE, hmm, this is going to take a long time. two jabs even more so, three jabs more so. government that had the primary data. And then this primary data has been analyzed, reanalyzed,

2:03:44 Netherlands, they have one of the best testing systems. So now you're trying to impose a... What you're doing is generating a hypothesis, OK. My answer is it looks to me like original antigenic sin. Well, that's kind of a cool makes sense for the common person. We all know that, well, in war, the homily is we're always best prepared for the last war.

2:08:12 Okay. Your immune system acts the same way with viruses. And it could be that they've got a whole Omicron. Compared to somebody that is immunologically naive, they only have, What is the difference between the spike protein that's generated from the injection of the vaccine versus all of the variables that your body encounters when it's been infected by COVID?

2:11:06 When you get infected or I get infected, it's typically nasal or oropharynx. It's coming in So there may be some good news in Omicron. Can I pause you one second? And Omicron seems to be even higher, significantly higher. By the way, that's called primary data, anecdotal primary data. And I've lost taste and smell. H1N1s infect the upper airway. And the high pathogenicity H1N1s infect the upper airway and the high pathogenicity H1N1s infect the deep lung.

2:15:38 Yeah. You're on it. Nope. are common colds. That's the beta coronaviruses that I was talking about when I was talking about It is absolutely able to escape prior vaccination, the control of prior vaccination, typically with mismatched vaccine. If I'm infected, no vaccination, no social distancing, no masking, blah, blah, blah, unless you're going to go live on the Muir Trail and not talk to anybody when you pass them,

2:19:52 the percentage of Delta versus Omicron out there and how do we know? they're going to be bodies stacked up and, you know, coolers in the UK. And it sure looks like they may have overshot again. The CDC seems to have taken those modeling And that's the core thing of this chronic angst of what the heck is going on. They're explicitly inconsistent with the Belmont

2:22:50 Yeah. Yeah. And the last data they had, it's actually Peter that sent me the data. We did a podcast all picked it up and they just assumed that that was based on real data, not modeled data. incidents. That is the moment, you know, how many have actually been infected as fast as they had been projecting. And the bulk of the disease that the docs that I'm talking to

2:26:50 I've heard is that the monoclonal antibodies are ineffective against Omicron. But I've never seen- Okay. When has that ever happened before? Are they trying to just encourage vaccination? They're expiring. in the spectrum of the range of possible, just the same as the withholding of early treatments For political reasons. to jail. I mean if that comes out, if that somehow or another gets leaked, Jesus fucking

2:31:59 press hardly covers it and there are no consequences. We're over 16,000 people from all over the world, physicians and scientists. You know, I don't need this. There's this claim I'm doing all this because I seek attention. Trust me, this is not a fun thing to be doing at this stage. that are designed to make money. believe in. They don't live in that world. As you appropriately point out,

2:37:11 that for many of us, when Matthias, a psychologist and statistician, interesting combination, The other day I was looking through New York Times recent articles about Omicron and pediatrics in the 20s and 30s. Very intelligent, highly educated population and they went barking mad. the ones typically that come in and say, We're all on our little tools.

2:41:36 that has happened. The problem is then you're just substituting a bigger boogeyman from the to push a storyline because they're all controlled by the same large funds that Pfizer is and We're so polarized politically, and it's become very, not just common, but accepted to other people, to point at those, the others, whether it's the Republicans or the Democrats or the Independents, whatever you choose to make. Or the unvaccinated.

2:44:12 There it is. analyzing things outside of an ideology, outside of the tribe. Those people are very susceptible this stuff when it is very difficult. And when you do get deplatformed for doing that, they know that It's insane. And so you get the idea of using your opponent's energy against him. Between you and Alex Berenson? our democracy and our society, civilized Western culture is built on.

2:49:02 Okay. We call it our credit rating agencies, OK? Everyone loses if they impart a social credit system. It's my... Thanks, you're kind. You got some years in you, bro. Settle in. And that data is used to manipulate all the people on the planet. And I got those two guys on to talk about what's happening to our children. this age, the ability for their brains to assimilate the information

2:55:24 It's way beyond myocarditis. Nobody said a word. They moved on. It was hardly covered in the media. She's not going to be invited back on that program again, I doubt. One of the things – there is clearly an androgen component to the risk of both the vaccine and the disease of the virus. And that's why antiandrogens, by the way, Pierre Corey, shout out to him

2:57:42 or is it vaccine related? Okay. So then the vaccine, that we're seeing it in the kids, but it's present in the adult population also. is it chicken or egg? We know that they're happening. We know that the deaths are happening. causes damage. Well, I got to kind of own that as a physician, as a representative of the medical industrial complex and a participant in it.

3:01:18 Substack? So I'm going to be using Getter for that thread. Yeah, no, it's- No? It started off—yeah, it's where, you know, they are committed to not censoring. I used to be on Yahoo stock chat boards. it? You want to give us the details? Washington, D.C., between the Washington People from every walk of life, every party, every religion, every ethnic background, Democrat, Republican, vaccinated, unvaccinated.

3:05:08 no vaccination for healthy children, no to censorship, no to limits on reasonable debate It's a Sunday.