Joe Rogan Experience #1766 — Ben Patrick Transcript

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0:00 Welcome. What's happening, man? Hey, man. You've had a bunch of knee surgeries as well, right? Some kind of like rubber plastic kind of shit. of that before. Yeah. You can still see kind of where it juts out. Ooh. Yeah. And can you sit on, was like in a matter of months, I could feel that spot actually felt fine again. A matter of months? I guess more rare they would do that.

2:38 uh handle and uh athletic truth group? This is what you got. Right. And then the other book goes over like my classic stuff. So that's called ATG for life. So people think you failed at life, you know? Right. But I was painting walls, researching relentlessly see video examples of him doing it and they were intentionally training knees over toes. So I just,

5:19 sled backwards thing? So cool. First off credit has to go. This is Chinese wisdom passed down generation to generation to prevent cartilage breakdown, to prevent arthritis in elderly. He's a legend. disc issues where his discs were pushing on his nerves, where he was, you know, Yeah. Yeah. but I set up my top six Instagram posts. and doing split squats completely eliminated

9:08 I have a yard that's got a nice long piece of grass. Like there's more there. you can deep squat you can rest on your knees oh yeah yeah no i don't have any issues like that Well, 100%. comes in because every step that you're going backward, you're strengthening your knee. But listening can get the world's fastest education, meaning I'm just, I made for the podcast. I spent

12:23 Only they move the sled. we're missing training our feet yeah i agree with that right so right off the bat and you were And that's what's interesting is that it's a lot easier to overdo exercises, such a thing. Like people have asked this a lot. How do I, like, what's too much? My training partner is 43 and he has reversed his body. In the last five years.

15:11 That's wild. So that wheeled sled, what is the difference? is tough to find a good surface for traction. And you need friction, but if it's like choppy, that's no good. Yeah, that's true. Okay. Yeah. then I think about four feet. Seven's great. without stressing your back and then It's not a Rogue one, but I could get a Rogue one. is coming all the way up to the chest area they could actually like you're pretty fit and athletic

19:14 So I just want to make sure it's all the safest data. But it may not be good for the treadmill. Something like that, right? I'm like, that could be a little sketch trying to go backward on it. but still allows you to get into a natural motion. Obviously, if it's a thousand pounds, the same time without the strength work, increasing the risk of injury? You see what I mean? So it can

22:17 my niece. So then I start really digging into the corners of the earth to find data. You see played two years at a junior college. had happened. But here's what I'm getting to. I go to this Division I school and the strength coach So I get a call from the head coach How the heck is the textbook going to change? having a bad reputation on the team. So explain how the conversation takes place.

25:33 So it's just a total stop. It's no knees over toes in his gym. this is what's helped me. I never got that far, but it was also for me being a new recruit college kid, it was like, that was a, that was a, an intimidating moment for me. You know what I Yeah. i understand and it goes like that for diet and you see like new data is constantly coming out

28:11 Oh, cool. So getting results in person became known as like the knee guy. And quite honestly, Exactly. You know what I mean? And you're winning more than anyone. But there are examples. you're from a small town, you have no special connections or anything i answered over 500 000 messages oh That sounds monastic. I want my post to do well. no Netflix, no video games.

31:16 Nothing? year and i haven't i didn't go back because when you finish the end of the night and you watch a I've taken that kid on like a thousand walks on my chest. Like he looks at you like when we're playing I've had this thing going on with my neck. And so then when I give it to him, he puts his finger on it and then I pushed down on his finger and his eyes

33:09 having an effect on him. And he's obviously it's cool um he spends a lot of time outdoors if i'm not watching tv you know he's not right i don't i think you actually enjoy what you do and when you enjoy what you do you're not uh you're not I get it. I get it too. I can, but I see what you're saying too. I can, anything you're describing, couldn't concentrate in school. I didn't care. I could not pay attention. I was just, and I

36:04 I could do nothing else I was I was all I could think about focus. Then I discovered martial arts. And I could do nothing else. martial arts showed me was that if there was something that I really loved and I just am completely opposed to being forced to do something that's uninteresting. but it totally makes sense yeah it seemed like it was a character flaw but actually it was a

38:31 Exactly. They were just showing up and doing their job. Like, I can't, there's not a thing that interests me. and then I started applying sort of the same mentality that want you to go down a very specific path. Like, Hey Mike, you're going to be a doctor. Hey That's great. But that's just because she's a mom. you had dr spock he wrote a couple of books you know like there's there's so little to like people

41:58 sports, getting them used to losing. Losing is important like it's very important and learning Become obsessed. you're in the middle of all the other everyday life stresses and relationships and, you know, It's really how we handle losing is low key. bad set the bad feeling that comes with a bad set is the ultimate motivator When fighters lose, and he's actually defending his title this weekend against this guy Cyril Ghosn,

45:22 and just dominated him in a five-round decisionis was devastated after that fight and for the next fight he fought like shit he had another Just knocked him out, and now he's the heavyweight champion of the world Probably worked harder. That loss was like that's the burning embers that will not fucking go out. That's so wild. More damage, more you need the sled because it gets the circulation.

49:03 you know, oh, am I actually doomed or not? And the more you do No, five years are going to happen. Oh, okay. because it allows you could stand in front of a mirror your toes. So every step backward, you're strengthening Motion and compression is how you get synovial fluid to carry nutrients to the joint. these are actually like just basics of physics and anatomy and how the body works. But

52:35 Right. What was the year where the Olympics became something that everybody was aware of? Greece. Yeah, it was in a sort of gymnastic setting. You can go into any gym in the world. And they call them either floor glute ham as much pressure behind the knee. This is the Rogue one? Yeah. I'll bring mine in. I the knee. If you want to have a really, this is the rogue one.

54:49 Now someone can see this. You definitely should. If you want one. So. That tib bar, I love that thing. You can stay on that exact post. No, I've never even heard of strengthening that until I saw your posts. Right, but it's Is that true? But getting stronger in these smaller areas. be able to play basketball without debilitating knee pain. I was hooked on painkillers, icing my

57:53 with free weights anymore. It had fallen off the face of the earth. You couldn't buy them anywhere. I recommend that to everyone. You want to go into a fight knowing that you've worked your Nordic, But leg curls with the monkey feet is so superior. Yes. I mean, that's okay. People start off with The Nordic I was describing and showing, it's the opposite.

1:00:56 Power, it has much more powerful effects And so that's what, you know, applying the free weight and body weight concept to your ankles and knees and hips has really powerful effects. to be a pro athlete, to have that pro, oh, it's one thing to get the pecs of a pro athlete. No, But it's weird when you think about how much money is involved in sports and how many people

1:03:55 that only what's in those textbooks is true. And that's not the case. You know what I mean? Google because it's already in the textbooks what he said 30 years ago. can actually delay healing. Do you think you should ice injuries at all? I think that's where it comes in. Yeah. no any kind of thing that could help my knees, I refuse But vitamins? When you get to be older, then you realize like not that you're older and wiser,

1:06:46 I'm getting a lot, but I'm also not anti-vitamin. When I was 30 is when I first started really taking vitamins. I was probably 28, 29, 30, in that seriously. I believe you on the vitamins. When I was 30 is when I first started really taking vitamins. I was probably 28, 29, 30 in that range. That's when I started getting serious It's just that right now I know I'm serving people better

1:07:54 Like, what am I not getting from food? You see what I mean? I would bet on that person. Now, right now, I'm a coach. at some point to demo like cold front splits and shit like that just so you can see it what do you Can I turn a camera on you? He's on his shins and knees, and he goes all the way backwards, I think about five years. It's totally pain-free and easy.

1:11:34 something you build up to. Right. Exactly. What about doing something like that with a weight But my only point was that could vitamins make me better? you can feel like my immune system feels so strong. You know what I mean? My, It's kind of like I'm just trying to play my part to be as obsessive as I can It's like six bucks. One for me, one for my dog, Lucky. The dog gets a rotisserie chicken? He eats

1:13:47 And then at night, I like to treat my family to a dinner. Again, I'm not Guys like So I just have an open mind on it. I'm not, the only thing I would say I'm an expert on is how to not eat cheat meals. You know what I mean? and then they shit out the seeds, and that's what actually helps them grow new trees. It's really wild stuff. It makes sense. The animal's defense mechanism is it runs away from us.

1:18:11 or some sort of a chemical reaction in the human body and look at these things and say, no, these, when you eat them in the proper quantities, And this is where I'm not sure who's correct. Number one is because the meat and the fruit, and even like avocado is a fruit, Yeah. Yeah. reasonable and well-educated. That would be an interesting conversation. Not someone who's

1:21:18 trying to do their best personally have for someone. Yeah, I don't delicious. But I did at one point actually think When I did the carnivore diet before, I would call what I'm doing now more animal-based The difference there was my workouts were a little flat. No issues at all. Sure. anything like that. So this is all just to show that everything that you're doing is consistently

1:24:42 Massage ball, nothing? I never roll or anything like that. Anywhere I can go, I want to be strong there. Give me some volume on this, Jamie, so I can hear what he says and give me a refresh. The back hip flexors start stretching. Yeah, like a straight-legged deadlift, like that kind of thing. to do is figure out, even when it gets into my groin area, like, you know, like a butterfly

1:28:22 And put the weight on each knee? because you're actually pushing down with the weight And here's another example where, like, there's no studies on your groin injury from having a strong and flexible groin from this exercise to be like an, there's an exponential thing going on when it comes to strength and flexibility, They see me dunk and do a splits or something,

1:30:28 You see what I mean? Exactly. Really? Yes. Even though there's, In Galani? So anybody that thinks that you can't be flexible, so this is like him just working out. and to be able to do but a lot of it is in Asia. Yeah. It's wild. No. like i'm not going to tell someone who's doing great like oh you need to be you don't need to That does not look real.

1:34:55 right so the idea of quote unquote muscle bound or that flexibility takes away your explosiveness I've never seen a leg like that. you're going to create jumping. And I don't think I would have been able to do that if I was stiff. And they probably would never pursue what you're doing like the fact that you've achieved this level of athleticism and ability because of the fact that

1:36:52 you know what I mean? You never take it through a full range of motion. So yeah, it's the same yes you get some of these similar common denominators of training areas that most people And then, of course, the knee. Yeah. It's a, particularly for striking. He's lying on his back. they reach a point where they cannot get their knees up. Their lower abdomen and stuff is

1:40:18 You get to work both sides, hip flexors, lower ab. it's, if you've ever seen like a lifting Right. It's quite a setup. We put a box behind us with weight on it so it won't move because you don't realize you're missing out Yeah, and I think that one's super underrated It wouldn't be natural to kick that much as you have to for your sport. So we can get pretty

1:42:52 You want to see the best example of an imbalance? Bro. Yep. And so I think that's a huge one My friend, John Dudley, he's an archery coach and was a world-class archer at one point in time. And he is so used to pulling where it's like leaning uh text it to you jamie his you can see it here but well i'll show it to you, Jamie. You can see it here, but I'll show it to you on the big screen.

1:45:28 since he was like a baby so he's been pulling back a bow for you know 30 plus fucking years than running away from life. Right. Thank God you figured it out for everybody. like what do you want me to be a fucking serial killer come on man i can figure i'm like it's not You're getting a burn. Right. I do cable and dumbbell in my program. Nothing. With the dumbbell, that's the toughest part.

1:48:21 Don't have it off the top of my head, but it would probably be like six or seven different shoulder exercises. So sled is the backbone of the whole organization. If you think about throwing a punch or something, throwing a baseball, the shoulder does have to stretch back. your palms to you. More like a parallel. Exactly. It's also, it enhances what happens when you punch.

1:49:59 I know exactly what you're talking about. Is my chronic shoulder pain gone? It seems like a lot of this would benefit from at least some kind of supervision from a trained athletic trainer, the person's form. Right. And seeing what they're starting on each progression. Right. So then I had read about it. You know what I mean? Right. That's what the books are there for. The books is just a

1:52:13 everything like that on what did that younger version of me need? You know what I mean? Right. Yeah. exercise like that. I didn't think of abilities as that anyone could improve on an ability, That's something that really comes through with all the content that you put out. exactly, exactly. for stuff and food and Like, you don't want to be attached to anything.

1:55:09 And that's my approach to money, too. That makes so much sense. Exactly. Like they're all about, like I have a good buddy who's a financial guy, And he's just trying to hook me up, and I'm like, eh, I'm not investing in anything. Like, this is not happening. Like, and he's just trying to, like, hook me up. And I don't know why I'm interested or not.

1:56:40 Yeah. This is Knee Ability Zero like I do and have your form 54, you're basically dead. Yeah. I was methods and this, and I've been doing Get these books or follow him. Bye.