Joe Rogan Experience #1767 — James Lindsay Transcript

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0:00 The Joe Rogan Experience. Well, you used it properly. We were like just in the crowd, right? It was like the statement, when do we get to go off on them? Like that violence. Are we going to have to take them out you know we're gonna have to go off when do we get to go off it was like the statement when do we get to go off on them like that violence are we gonna have to take them out gonna have to take them out like i'm looking at this guy thinking you're not taking anybody out

1:33 After I talked. And he was like, when do we get i don't know and then the weirdo guy that was like if we could narrow it down to who are the They still haven't charged that guy. While other people are rotting in jail. Yeah. Yeah. know in that case, but that looked bad. It looked strange. It's like, what are you doing? Yeah, but no, that's not the answers.

4:08 rabbit hole. Oh, buddy, we're probably I've read his book. But he seems like a bad guy in a Batman movie. No. mean he's got a suit and tie at other times. I don't know how this under your leadership. In the first three quarters of 2021, China's economy 他的太太习近平 Yeah. The Taoists don't. supposed to have this great society and look, you're suffering, you're starving, then they'll

9:20 COVID-19, The Great Reset. He's got a few books, actually. I've read some of his other ones, of fascism? It's corporatism. It is a fusion of the state and corporation. these restaurants and bars and small businesses. And they did it because it didn't affect them at all financially. Like, if the politicians got paid based on how well the economy did in their city.

11:26 So they get paid. Can't be coughing in front of you? all the bars, Well, I mean, locally, but it's dependent on some other factor. Well, in local government, it's dependent upon these decisions. most certainly getting richer. And just of multiply in this kind of an environment. So do you think that like places like San Francisco human stupidity. So it is possible that they're just stupid and don't realize the extraordinarily

14:59 these critical theories or whatever. They're experts in best practices and governance. these huge entities or the World Economic Forum. And we're not going to give you the favors anymore. That should be allowed. And when they did it, the guy who was the lowest seed won the tournament. A little bit. But there's not a whole lot of incentive. The Department of Justice is investigating moms and dads, you know, for showing up to school boards.

17:49 Yeah. doing whatever they do. They deal with the situation and the FBI president come out and So somewhere in the Bible, it's now been shown, like actual journalists, the DOJ, and then Merrick Garland comes out and says that they're going to start watching parents I mean, they can't think – I mean, obviously, they want some parents to show up at school board meetings because they want to be active in –

20:44 can't be governor twice in a row. And then the schools – like the school district covers it up. They tried to tell the parents to keep their mouth shut about it. emotional learning and critical race theory and the queer theory, gender theory stuff But then when you see some of the ridiculous shit They're like, we are gonna teach your kids the right things we are going to teach your kids to respect us we are going to teach your

23:44 People who are attracted to underage people that we shouldn't call them pedophiles. Minor attracted persons. It's got to be like some cycle of abuse. Yeah. prepared the ground. By about 1985, though, what this so-called critical turn in education, He's got this total weird idea like teachers and students, society that they live in and rather than saying saying, OK, maybe you are, you know, maybe you're working a shit job, maybe you're stuck.

27:31 in Portuguese in my head because I don't read Portuguese, but it's usually not translated. So it latches right into that. leading like the sexual liberation kind of side of Marxism through the 60s. And they're doing it Look at the queer stuff. It's in fact to not have stable identities at all because those become the status quo. it gets better means reaching out to young gay kids to tell them that there's

30:33 You know, it's super positive, actually. Yeah, and when civilizations start to crumble, they become obsessed with gender. civilizations with the roman civilization the the greek empire they they all started falling to today the change has been so radical oh yeah it's crazy how fast it is I mean Right. You know, we don't – I know I'm going to sound like Jordan Peterson with the whole, you know, we don't know the effects that this will bring.

33:33 going to the bar because they have social anxiety. What are they doing? They're on the internet basically do what diversity training in workplaces does now you know they'd put like so i don't want to make some number up but some small percentage they literally became fanatics some feminist woman bitching about something and like bitching about somebody and bitching about

36:05 outsized voice. Now, have you heard of renormalization? No. Okay. This is a big idea And all of your options are basically unless you're going to go kind of like hard nosed. well, we got to do something for the Johnsons down the street. They're vegans now. And so what can sexist, racist, probably capitalist, patriarchal. And you are the worst kind of person and the

38:23 And I'm going to read you the transcript I mean, this is wild shit. And then there was another one that he had that was about, Yeah, that's it. I'm down for it. Blah. shit he's a very open-minded guy he's very progressive he's very intelligent and there's somehow or another lumping him in with like a bad person or with Like, you know, we had just the other day here on the show, you had the, you know, Tim Poole's alt-right or whatever.

41:29 And I think sometimes people, when they work for an organization that is going along with the government's rules and guidelines, Tim is, if anything, he's a centrist. He was like right there. And that's like, that guy's the boogeyman to the left. But it's Veritas, yeah. well i've talked there's a certain psychologist that went to a college and he told me a style thing

43:43 Like I don't know if that thing that they just did with the COVID is like panned out or not. Yeah, exactly. Is it true that this leaked, according to the document, that this leaked Yeah. And meanwhile, left-wing media ignores, ignore, ignore. It really is. A YouTube video got sent to me, and it's Kim Iverson. talking about cnn the media won't talk about this these things just vanishes so do you know

46:53 I've heard stories about his parentage that probably shouldn't be repeated on air because we don't know what they are. wing media, MSNBC, you're like, and that's been the hot word of a year, right? The narrative, I can't verify it. I met him at Mar-a-Lago last year. I don't know what that's about. but I heard the pillows suck. No, it's just a, I don't have,

48:59 What does that mean? Let me see a picture of one of these fucking things. It says it in the bag? I don't fucking know. because it's so thick. Yeah. And I we have this company that was a sponsor, Hyperice, Yeah, you did. Yes. the guy say hi we're we're like right trump's over there like let's talk and uh like he's just mad propaganda you're you like if you have that person on your network and you're putting it out on the

52:28 Because people have this thing about Fox already. What? Yeah. No. Oh, you need to meet Alex. Yeah, we yeah we got to get together yeah we need to make that happen yeah were like, nope. Like what? Well, like hydroxychloroquine and ivermectin being things But now they're having a really hard time finding it. And that there was a line of people waiting to get into an emergency room in Oklahoma for gunshot wounds because there were so many people there that were overdosing on ivermectin.

54:57 What the fuck are you talking about? The selection process is to let ideas rise up to the top. eyeballs on it so people can say this is where it's bullshit this is where that falls apart These fucking professors. Yeah. Now, as you know, we talked about postmodernism last time I was here with you. we should be listening to right now. What he's saying is if you have the official power, he's

58:05 The serfs, you know, getting abused and whatever else. Interdimensional child molesters. Interdimensional. So, but he was right about an uncanny amount of stuff. An uncanny amount of stuff. And what did they do? He was the first guy. Fox News talking like if Hannity wants or whoever it was I don't know wants to have him on the show like let it freewheel let his idea get out there and then like let's say it's 100% bullshit let

59:36 You're platformed. No, but it's like I feel like like we don't are in fact dangerous to democracy because he's saying that our elections are invalid. and we have to stop this shit from getting out. No, I'm not saying we do, but I'm saying that the reason why they feel like they have to news there's fucking no one left oh what oan that that wacky news network yeah they just got kicked

1:01:44 Oh, he was statistical analysis to dig into this. Right. And really. Yeah. And so that's like he had his whole conference like in South Dakota or something about it over like the summer last year. Like this is a whole thing. And so he's trying to make this point. upon millions of Americans who are looking at the 2020 election and they're kind of squinting one

1:03:12 That's always possible. way. Go home. That is what's missing is that transparency. So what's dangerous for me to human use and science and success behind it. And that was a decision made that's where you get yourself in these really dangerous positions. I mean, when I met him, he actually, what did he say? He said something really funny Okay. rock.

1:06:49 very curious. I mean... david hogg we oh that kid yeah he made pillows yeah he called him i think he called him like Because I think they're a basic human right. Is it? Some say love We're going to jail. He's old. in which case it's still unlikely to be true. I would too, but if you're Hannity does it make sense to you that you wouldn't want someone saying that on your network?

1:10:34 They're doing something that is without a doubt suppressing certain views and perspectives. Like there's, they don't, there was at one point in time one priest that he moved that molested a hundred deaf kids. And you find yourself in a very weird situation Herbert Marcuse was the guy's name. means, or actually he calls it liberating tolerance. Liberating tolerance means tolerating movements from the left and being intolerant against movements from the right.

1:13:08 He says we have to stop the idea from ever entering their head. Whereas even intolerance from the right is maintaining an oppressive order. So they're not on a moral level. So we have to, even if there's violence involved, we have to tolerate we pull out our phones right now, we're going to get on Twitter. And it's like, all right, stuff like I'm going to groom children or whatever and you're probably going to be

1:15:04 Yeah. And not only are they – they're not even just bringing in schools. So these aren't like books like the teacher necessarily is reading through in class. even saying what's in this book. But I've seen the picture from the book. It's actually, it shows, Like, yeehaw. No. This is scandalous. Or schools book. Why don't you go to DuckDuckGo. Gender Queer Schools Books. That's what I would type in. Think of that. Or Schools Book or whatever.

1:17:32 Google gives you bad info. They did the thing right after your show. All the stuff. This is, again, it's just another example I'm talking about. It's a boy who had his period. a supposedly a strap-on that looks like a penis like how do we know that oh there you go so that And the articles, when I was Googling for it, Of course. And they actually openly say, I mentioned that paper by Hannah Dyer earlier.

1:20:53 And what is the, why, what's the, what are they trying to accomplish with the goal of eliminating childhood innocence? But from the Marxist perspective, having studied the history of Marxism to the 20th century, I'm telling you, this guy, George Lukács in Hungary laid this plan out because you don't want me to be my true self, etc. The goal is actually to destabilize the kids identity

1:22:39 But the goal is to separate the new generation from the traditions and views of the old generation. It was like destroy the old culture and they would go home and they eventually got to where they're beating their parents. And I can't remember them all off the top of my head, but, like, the black classes were, like, landlord or child of landlord, right?

1:24:29 Your family does this. But then, you know, you can become a revolutionary. You can join the Red Guard. peasant classes, day laborers, that's one or two of the red classes because it's communism. them that they are part of the racist superstructure of society, basically, that they're part of the Well, what is queer then? Yeah. anyway. And so these young white girls are all becoming some kind of weird gender thing.

1:27:36 That's where we heard so many people, Ayanna Pressley most famously. Nicole Hannah-Jones from the New York Times, the 1619 Project said the same thing. There's a difference between being racially black and politically black. So then in your former home whether that's, you can't just be a black kid, you have to be a politically black kid. You have your content of your character is determined by the color of your skin. So that

1:30:11 college, if you're a person who is a white collar person, like you're not allowed to don't have a Mao Zedong character that's going to lead this and use the chaos that it creates to social credit for themselves. good idea so that we can become this one. It's not communism. It's a mixture of communism and were describing it, you could easily say us, like people who are podcasters. Yeah. People who,

1:32:58 It was like government authority or something like that. It was from the DOJ. Okay, the FBI and the DHS are both charged with preventing terrorist attacks in the United States, including those conducted by domestic violent extremists. or generalized philosophic embrace of violent tactics may constitute extremism. No. It doesn't sound bad at all. Keep going.

1:35:50 It's an acronym if you say it. Fuck. It's a different word like NASA. Right. Fuck. that are a violation of the criminal laws of the United States Yeah, that all makes sense, except that's like, isn't that what they did with the governor of Michigan? those questions to ted cruz and said i can't answer that i can't answer that and things that with the intelligence community?

1:37:56 saying, we need to go in there. He met informally, Jamie. He's with somebody. Did he go in? Don't go in there. so they tell you so they're trying of course they turn it into like a holiday or something weird Yeah. If every day is January 6th, we always have to be aware that there's this one side that supported Trump. What does that justify? Repression of movements from the right, intolerance of movements from the left. It's exactly what they were – if the FBI constructed the bulk of the bad stuff that went down on J6, they were trying to construct their excuse to have a political biasing of the playing field that represses rightward and opens the gate leftward

1:41:53 They're a constant threat to the people's movement or to the revolution or whatever And so there's this thing that some people call it, I call it on Twitter, the regime with a capital 20, was it 21, I guess, I was tweeting. I was like, you do not know what's happening at the the agendas that they're pushing. It makes it that much easier for them to try to slide that

1:44:57 It comes out. using COVID-19 as the pretext. That's a good question. Like six or something, right? Where it's like feds pointing at each other. You guys. They can be labeled under somebody who's a potential insurrectionist or instigating an insurrection or inciting. And, you know, what it is, is they think that some dude say whatever Michigan, is this lunatic who wants to kidnap the governor,

1:48:10 And so why on earth? Like there was literally a crazy guy that did that there. And then who's on the scene? And she was in front of a green screen, wasn't she? way less carnage and damage than we were expecting. the message of CNN that masks don't work. What? and you're like, holy shit, this is kind of, month it was like March, 2020 or April, 2020, that was the only thing I said with it. And they,

1:51:31 The way he handled that, which is very similar in the fact that they suppressed alternative treatments and early treatment options in favor of AZT. I'm trying to find this motherfucker. very boring to everybody, but I think it's kind of Maybe that? Is there a video? glad you said this because I actually wanted to bring this up if we got a chance. The problem

1:54:10 How many, some absurd number of billions of masks floating in the ocean. you know they're getting and if we go back to ESG thing, they're getting points on their G for good governance by forcing people to wear the masks. everything. Is it worth wearing, everybody wearing masks at the cost, the environmental outlay, Yeah. that. No, I filled the space the space you did you did it very well

1:56:57 But maybe, but also like for folks, let's listen to this. Oh, that's the link to the full documentary. Sorry. So I don't personally find that. There's some of that for sure. they were safe. Something else I sent you? No one would put that in a documentary. coming through the mask, going out the sides. And then those tiny little aerosol particles, they're going to go out with it.

2:00:18 Yeah. Yeah. The fact that we were told, like, have you ever seen that guy in Germany that walks around It's just – well, it's one of the things where people are looking for something to comfort them. I mean, I was in Tennessee, so not so much. See, England today dropped everything. Like, last Christmas. all of a sudden you locked the fucking city down and you're responsible for a lot of that shit the

2:02:48 And it's funny. Right. really fucking hurt because a woman that's like especially a tiny woman yeah that i mean some Are you one of those extremists that believes that men and women are not the same? Well, not in a fight. Unironically. Like something so absurd. Well, then I also, it's like that, you know, you laugh and then you cry. Though some have chosen to do so anonymously to voice their concern.

2:06:15 Yeah, and a narcissistic guy at that. When you have biological females, you're going to have, like, super athletes that are going to dominate. Yeah, it's in Pink News. There's a difference. Brown belt class, black belt class. You're fucked. He's so silly. They're all Feds. Oh, I thought that that was a parody. a putz lincoln project says it's behind the group with tiki torches by yunkin campaign buster oh

2:09:38 99% sure. With the Tiki Torch thing? Oh, great. freaking crazy what do you i mean how many are there like that that's the thing that leads people Right. Isn't that wild when you hear that? Do you know what a limited hangout is? And so all of a sudden, you know, basically their narrative has, what we're watching right now is a very exciting time, weird time, but exciting time to be alive.

2:12:24 Yeah. Probably just have cartoons Before you get on a fucking metal tube So Chester Pierce came up with microaggressions in 1970. Yeah, Jolly West. And they were trying to figure out something about how LSD does things and controllability and all this. screwing around with it and this part of like so jolly west was like the mk ultra guy doing all the

2:14:55 weird that Snuffleupagus is on there now that they killed an elephant and then he makes Sesame that you have to be insulted now. Well, that might be okay. It's nothing like that. and again and again. So, it's a microaggression, like, if you told an Asian, like, you sure are Well, Do all the positive stereotypes. ism is going on yeah there's a lot of wrongs a lot of wrong's a lot of wrongs. A lot of wrongs. A lot of wrongs. Domestic violent extremists.

2:17:39 Are we in a doubt? You do? I do. Everybody reads about, I have to do it. That's a good quality. happened. They want to pretend that red line laws didn't happen. Jim Crow didn't happen. In the Marxist view, there's a system that the entire society operates under a system that dictates how the society operates. They don't actually make stuff. So now we need lawyers.

2:21:12 in revolution and the people on the bottom seize power through a period of dictatorship, But no, he created a system rooted in white supremacy that's for white benefit, et cetera. description of the theory in Marxism called structuralism. And that structure determines a sense a revolution, not the civil rights movement. None of that actually changed racism

2:23:44 So – Like it's gotten worse because it's gotten better? And as we have dealt with, some certain very intolerant people are going to say that every other possible way to discuss the past and the present of this country race theory is calling everything you want to control racist until you control it. So now you totally in power. I feel like there's also an aspect to it where social media has

2:26:21 And so it creates really bad incentives. One is Stamped from the Beginning, which is what I was just saying. The only way – the only remedy to past discrimination is present discrimination and the only remedy to present discrimination is future discrimination. is there is a strong incentive structure to pretend that you're not white because the and then he starts going after Jack and that's a mistake.

2:29:09 invoking him, especially as, you know, most famous, I have a dream speech. But he vanished for a Yeah. you. He literally misspelled principles in his little one paragraph write-up. He says, what's The DOA would be responsible for pre-clearing all local, state, and federal public policies. anti-racist thing to do or might it somehow create racism? And so they're going to have

2:32:55 on racism, which means critical race theorists. That's Marxism 101, that you're going to have the actually investigate it. They need a critical theorist to tell them where they're actually It's so-called normal science. Critical race theorists are highly suspicious of another liberal mainstay, namely rights. They would say definitely so because more white people than black people own guns.

2:35:32 Therefore, they are the only solution. Without the Bo part. Like, just Jangles. It's really strange. blah Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation $750,000 He's been on the show before or something because at the beginning of the show, he's like, oh, it's good to see you again or whatever. I'm the opposing side's anti-CRT domain expert. professor just starts making fun of him. Like, you don't know what you're talking about. It's

2:38:04 started saying like, you guys are lying. No. The way it really ended was I had gone off about this one specific thing that the professor had laughed at Derek for. in 1989. And that's where Kimberly Crenshaw, who's one of the chief critical racers, But he brings up 89. And I even added that Richard Delgado, who wrote the critical race here introduction, was at that meeting.

2:40:06 And, like, that's the founding conference. He was like – I kept getting told by the people who worked there. I don't know. They were happy. dumb. I'm sick of it. But why do they have these kinds of conversations where they have a bunch of Yeah, or, I mean, he's under the Oprah umbrella, so, you know, and Oprah's promoted stuff like critical race theory ideas for the last little while.

2:42:03 1989. You know, it's a ha ha a haha everybody laughs but they edited it to where the That makes him all right? It's just I think shows like that are terrible. Correct. To have parents there and, well, I mean, if you were at the last two minutes, you probably Most people aren't there to the very end. have you reached out to any of those people i don't interview people on mine so i haven't reached

2:44:36 and get donated no they they just won't come even if you like exceed the amount that their normal well it seems You're a right-wing extremist now, according to everybody. A variety of reasons. One was, I don't perceive Biden as being a radical. I perceive Biden as Yeah. They're all nuts, you know. But so I figured he was corrupt. I figured the media, which was holding

2:47:21 we should start ignoring the Supreme Court. Maybe we shouldn't actually have a Supreme Court. Maybe we should pack the Supreme Court. Maybe we don't need a Well, people hated Trump so bad. Oh, my bad that they pretended that Biden was a good candidate. I was like, oh shit, the media is not going to play this right if he's president. And so that's why I voted for Trump.

2:49:20 I have not hung out with him. I met him at the UFC. It's one of those weird things where they're just trying to pretend. Yeah, he's apparently trimmed down quite a bit. You went to Mar-a-Lago. It's so opulent. It's gorgeous. Like if there's five stars, five star, you know, it's like seven stars. Right. And so you went to the Winter White House. Yeah, it was fun.

2:51:10 Texas attorney general? Maybe he lost some weight. There were some pictures. Maybe I have no idea the one one on the right, if that is real, Let me see this. But this So, M-E-A-double-double-W-W-dot-com. What is that? But he was doing, there was a video of him talking just like a couple of days ago. Because I looked at him, he looked exactly the same.

2:53:34 You both did a tremendous, tremendous job. Three days ago. Fat is a new thing. so bad for people. And in the middle of COVID where we know. Yes. Like it does something with I got another image that's hilarious. and we're going to move in our new freaking reset system. No. Yeah, fake papers and grievance studies, fat studies, gender studies. And these studies were unfortunately accepted, lauded, and praised, and you guys even won awards for these parody studies.

2:56:18 we spend a thousand hours as one person, feminist, watching dogs hump each other and fight each other in dog And we said never in the heavy rain, which in Portland, right? And so the gay dog rape, if they were bothered by that, and we claim that that's what they did. nuts right now. It's hard to Is it parody? Yeah, force parents to give away their children.

2:58:18 Yeah. Exactly. Like something that looks like a honeycomb and you're like, you know, something. Yeah. It's like you can't tell. And they got fact-checked on that. Like they did not actually buy washing machines so they can spin the news before they air it. And they got fact-checked on that. Like, how could they be fact-checked for something that dumb?

3:00:56 You know, that would be, if it's genuine, a positive step. They don't help. who else was the other producer? I can't remember. It's not just that it sucks, but it's preposterous. People know that they're full of shit like my mom being like, you know, and over again to be wrong right like. Like, what are you fucking saying? It's not gonna fix itself.

3:03:27 One of my favorite ones was when Brian Stelter was talking about what a shame it was that there were programs on YouTube has sailed, kid. You don't know that? That entitlement. I would go to CNN.com, like, first thing in the morning, see what's happening in the world. It's 90% down from where it was from this week last year, which was the week that the riots happened, which would have been everyone fucking watching the news.

3:05:01 The Trump thing, for sure they lost 50% outrage. And that's the other thing. People get that you have to use or whatever the fuck it is. Where, you know, a bunch of fucking morons went to the Capitol and probably were instigated by the feds to do so. Let's bring it home. And that's always a good sign that they're probably not going to win. about like an aristocracy of ideas and the media figureheads and the professors and the

3:07:59 not to say it's going to be smooth for the next little while and it's not to say that we can go In 15 years, it'll be like 70. to keep trying to voice this crap on people. well, it's going to have to happen though. If you want the positive path, it doesn't really As more people become 18 years old, their pool of talent grows larger. those things. It's a bad metaphor, but it's a broken bottle, I guess. I hope you're right.

3:11:44 medical apartheid or whatever they're doing. If we can put those, if we can get the right people and get enough momentum behind it and get those people to say these things, to start figuring out