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0:00 The Joe Rogan Experience. Don't they censor the shit out of him? a school bus in your backyard and you have like fields of fire and fucking bazookas hidden I can't make heads or tails as to whether or not that is how true it is. Have you ever seen somebody complaining about being shadow band and they have It's pretty good, dude. You know, I think I talk too much shit and I swear and I show animals getting eaten.

2:33 But you're never going to find that in the search. It's one of my absolute favorites. It's work. Oh, yeah. Oh! So here's a question for you. how they do it I don't know but it is a thing and they do it with primarily with Like, who knows? Millions of dollars put into their training. We should explain to people that don't know you that you're a Navy SEAL.

7:06 If you think of things you've done in your past, those are different lifetimes. Are you even the same guy? more comfortable with who I am and things make more sense it's completely No, I'm like, yeah, I know I'm 20, 21. That's like still very immature. I'll probably peak at 18 maturity wise. and it's taken me a long time to come back around and realize um i forget who had said it, but we were sitting down having a

10:02 athlete or whether you're a Navy SEAL. Show succession on HBO do you ever watch it? No, it's very good show. I love it. We just finished it today who runs this I told myself, I think looking back at my 20 and 30s, you know, success plus happiness is probably more successful than more financial Yeah, that's what it is. And I would remember reading about what he would do.

13:42 He'd miss some of his children's births. look across the ring at pure determination pure will pure discipline and championship discipline And I have the opportunity, at least in theory, If you don't see your friends for a couple years, Well, there's being there, and then there's being there. It could have either cost me my life or what would have actually been worse, in my opinion,

16:41 Yeah. That makes sense. Like any other job. People say the physical part is 10 percent and the mental aspect is 90, and you can put whatever ratio you want to it. pursuing that type of occupation for very different, perhaps more self-serving reasons now. Well, when you reward them on a national – And I would just recommend people go and look at the hair on those gentlemen.

20:06 At the range to keep shells from going into my neck, bro. Oh, for sure. Yep. of this movie. And he's making i did a telemarketer headsets killing me oh my god i did a breakdown of this with callan and i God, the jump scene. oxygen. Inside of the black, like little clamshell thing is a container that has either probably It's very possible. Look at his hair.

23:26 but there are people who make their entire living upon what they did in the And, again, I don't have any data to support it, but I would be worried that perhaps people's reasons for joining is shifting. the octagon. Hard pass. it in any way. And you have to struggle and fight and just grind your way to that end state. Insufficient to get the job done like that's important to know because otherwise

26:34 There's a lot of people that really believe that. but also seeking difficult things and finding failure. Resilience, the only way you're going And it's failure after failure after failure after failure. Looking back six months, you're better than you were then. And that's just not how the world works. No, I don't mean like rough hand you your lunch.

29:36 I don't mean getting mauled, even though I do believe there's a time and place for that too. You need those tests. Willingly go ask another man to choke you nearly unconscious. and then he was taking a class every day after the private. He took statins because we had a conversation about that too because he did not want to I travel to these places.

31:53 I don't know. And matter of fact, didn't David Sinclair talk about the upsides of statins? He was an animal. towards because he got very ripped mmm there's a picture of him walking down legit I think there's an aspect of that. And I also think that there are people who use it as a So it's – I mean I don't have nearly enough experience to comment on jiu-jitsu as a whole or anybody else's journey in it.

35:03 but it's hard to not tap. Is it still fucked up or is it better? We're good. Is that real? I can't explain it. and then, which paid off awesome when we were hungover. When I had like a tennis elbow and I would like put the BPC 157 into there, I don't have a problem with shots or blood draws or stuff like that. Just fainted. And in the movie, someone was shooting heroin. And the person sticks the needle into their arm and plunges the and she just blacks out.

38:07 if you just randomly see things and pass out. Yeah, but what kind of evolutionary benefit and they think that it might increase their benefit, That thing's going to eat your face. Oh. which slows down the heart rate and lowers blood pressure Well, blowing a trumpet, like if you go to Dizzy Gillespie. He actually did it in a way that it's like not how they teach you They don't teach you to fill your face up with air, but he did it and it became a part of his signature

41:09 And when I was in the class, I was remembering how Dizzy Gillespie did it. Because I think you're supposed to Ooh. I wonder if there is an agreed upon best technique. Jello pudding. So then you look dizzy. But yet, he's a legend. And you get a surprise shot, But Cam Haynes just hits the trigger. this works for everybody right hit the button start talking talk and then hit the button yeah I gotta

44:35 All you need to do is go on YouTube and put in there cold cock, You know, especially if you don't see it coming. I went skiing before the pandemic ended. couldn't figure out how to get up properly like like my it would have been terrible. It was, again, completely my fault. Yeah. I don't know. guy drives forward to take down his head hits first with both of their weight and they paralyze

48:47 That's the scariest shit ever. and you you know like someone's knee explodes like every time you're in that situation afterwards It was so loud. hundred and fifty percent stronger than a regular ACL because they don't use an I haven't had any knee stuff. Purple. And how many days a week? Five days a week's a lot. I like the fact that it's hard. you're like, oh that motherfucker.

52:21 And I just fucking. I guess his name was Tabata. and one of the first things It's one of the most effective protocols that I've ever touched. be completely wrong well it's it's a weird protocol right like the 20 seconds of going all out and They can maintain what they have, if not add to it it by doing shorter interval work really yeah I mean I know well I don't know an incredibly

54:48 It is so good. So I'd do eight sprints. Yeah. Right. Well, I've done that. I've done eight rounds of that. And it's brutal. Eight rounds of eight reps. You start in front squat, you go all the way down, and you drive it overhead for 20 seconds. What do I mean, the first rep? You're like, this is nothing. With this one kettlebell, this one video, you get this insane cardio workout with a single 35-pound kettlebell.

57:38 So I think it's all about the exposure. Repeated for like nine years. The first time I did a CrossFit style workout, it was actually, And I'm talking to the point where like is that the best way to get strong If you're going to do it for optimum- I mean I messed around. I don't have any experience outside of like genres of exercise beyond that. So I don't know.

1:01:41 It really does work your legs. But I think those and like gorilla cleans where you have like, you know, especially like around the joints surrounding and like with your knee joints is very beneficial. where it goes through his whole... He was a – Mostly no gi these days, but I'm not averse to doing the gi. I have some from you. Is that in Maine? Holy fucking shit.

1:05:13 The vast majority of the classes where I train that I can go to with my time schedule are gi. from bottom to top. It would have been the shit, That could be fine. four-layer principle because there were people at the origin camp you know they make boxers I mean, I don't need to know that much about people. rash guard selections. pretty open as to what...

1:08:19 Dean Lister. levels and it would alternate from, I mean, top position, bottom position, sweeps, escapes, I think they break it up into like a portion A and a portion B. Is Pete from Maine? It's like 20 below zero, and they have everything clogged up with their trucks up there. because they're worried about threats of violence from these truck drivers.

1:10:38 it seems like people expressing their opinion And you see it in the States, And some people are not buying that shit, especially when it comes to Canada, which has been really rough in terms of like locking down businesses. They don't. they're doing it because it makes it seem like they're doing something. night. For the mandates and the lockdown? Yeah, the mandates and the lockdowns and people worried

1:13:22 It's pretty fucking wild. credit. Which limits what you can do? It limits what you can do. It limits where you can go. full access to your browser history this is a piece I saw on Shepard Smith's show A message pops up, It's because they bought something in a store. ahead of the Beijing Olympics, That's just one of them. remembers the guy was his name Richard whatever the fuck his name was trying to blow his shoes up like that

1:17:19 Yeah. And what could come with that is, hey, don't do this today because here's the threat level. I would agree with that. They'll do that. a mask on now, everywhere you go for a lot of people, you know, a lot of people are like out They just kind of have them down here, and they're just wandering around. with this table it's fucking gnarly but we're in vegas and everybody in the casino had to have a

1:20:28 in the casino they're about covet 19 it's like what what are we doing and hey i've had covet No. No, it wasn't just Guantanamo. I forget what the act was that they were trying to pass. But this idea that they didn't necessarily need the same, one of the things they were saying was indefinite detention ban that's right the ndaa that's exactly what it was so the ndaa still

1:22:52 It could mean whatever. Indeed, I believe that doing so would break with our most important And that's when our rights and our laws are critical. I think as long as there's a war on terror. Like the war on terror is not over by any stretch of the imagination, nor do I think it will ever be. You're going to have terrorist attacks. the history of humans where there not has not been conflict or fighting, which at least escalated to war.

1:26:24 Come back again in 100 million years where we could have advanced intelligent life again. you know, Earth is, what, 4-point-something billion years old, right? Yeah. Well just Google the Toba eruption in Indonesia Does it say? were covered by 15 centimeters, 6 inches of volcanic debris, I don't know. and only a small group with a limited genetic variability survived by chance in Africa.

1:30:35 So imagine all the shit that we have. That I'm hearing. good with that yeah uh it's been good stay offline ignore it and everything seems okay to make an educated choice or decision. other programs to be limited it's like just do better like you guys should be better at what They're on cable. It's like everything is stacked and I think you have to pay for it.

1:34:01 I mean, for me, it's measured in years. And so it's uncensored. And then I talk and we're trying to like dance when there's three people You'd be able to find them online. saying yeah even when those things turn out to be incorrect right oh and then they seem to be and they don't admit Like the color of whatever's inside of that green behind you, like pasty.

1:36:43 But who's fact checking the fact checkers and who would who's paying It's such a dumb thing to do. that, no, your eyes are wrong and your ears are wrong, how long would it be before you completely Right. I like the idea of it, but I'm not going to be passionate. actually have an educated opinion on yeah there's not a lot of subjects where i'll go stop you don't

1:39:10 gano doing jujitsu isn't that wild whole first i was scared of him before because if he hits you There are some jurisdictions There's the unified rules of MMA. he would tape all the way up halfway up his thigh where his knees were like mummified well he weighed in at 257 which but how tall is he he's six five i believe that's dudley tall yeah Everybody's like, holy shit.

1:41:48 we'd heard about it. I had not talked to his coaches, so I didn't know exactly the extent A man that size? eat very much like the day before under it dip under it and then weigh himself in. And then afterwards, he'll rehydrate and carb up. Like, what was he able to do? No. And I'm really curious to see believe that's bad for an evening's work I think that's nice I would love to see

1:44:45 going up to fight in boxing. How tall is Francis? Is he 6'4", 6'5". I'm not sure. How tall is Francis? It's just super heavyweight. I figured at that level it would kind of come as you are. have a guy that big that was Were you, though? Asking me that way every time I see somebody post a video from there Like for people to look at. You know, it's...

1:47:44 Mm-hmm, yeah. so he's really into that and he's really Fair enough. So why does Brian suck? Is that the problem? I'd have to look at him again. and they're just putting magazines in their pistols backwards, I don't have a problem with what he's doing here. He's got an old man neck. Chris D'Elia. I like when you knock things. Oh, on the ear? How far do they look to you?

1:51:04 Which one's in focus? I'm looking at the rear. It should be the front and back. The front and rear sight? Yeah. Which one's in focus? Yep, if you're using an iron. Now, I was using a red dot for a while, Even if it fucks up. they can start anticipating the shot because it's just that red dot right there. And they're like, long shot. There's no room for anticipation. That should apply to both a carbine and a pistol.

1:53:23 if you're talking about a surprise break, Your sight picture. it's like boom boom boom boom boom click you're like oh yeah that only happens when there's a And he was like, whoa. Three? When it's not the winter, I can shoot in my house. So I will a couple times per week. and buys a semi truck full, it limits the amount that everybody else can get. So if everybody had

1:56:34 I was like, wow. It could be an artificial scarcity. And you can actually do the vast majority of the training Because I can do a lot of it dry fire, or what I'll do is I'll do one round in each magazine if I'm working manipulation or reloads. Yeah, complete VR goggles. And you have a weighted gun. Firearm replica probably? Right. And it's Like, the idea is to have an environment,

1:59:08 I remember it, but I know where it was, but I never used it. But when you're looking through the sights, it has iron sights. What guns are actually capable of doing and they think that the possession of a gun somehow equates to their safety and that's not the case right so true did you see that fucking video of the guy because it's so crazy so they're playing stupid games and winning a stupid prize so and this

2:01:16 So he's got to use his thumb to press the button to get the fucking gun out. And the fact that he immediately goes Do not say the word clip again. It could be a gesture. I mean, I've done it. What does it say right there he tells his side of the story can we see him get interviewed i was in fear of my life one thousand percent he According to the arrest report report he changed lanes and cut

2:03:58 Mr. Popper is not only not guilty, he is innocent and justified, said his attorney. Where are they going? glass as opposed to shooting through glass at a close distance and having it ricochet out all over I don't have an issue with that. And gross motor skills very often are going to be the first things that degrade in a violent confrontation. of the impact I mean what how much of the kinetic

2:06:32 I'm going to assume that happened in Florida. Wow. And I think it's a disingenuous thing to say. where a similar situation happens on a highway No. You could tell he was involved. oh so the guy literally got in the same lane with him yes there was something Right. So, Joe, don't do that. shit about him. He's one of my favorite people. He's We saw that from the Charlie Sheen video.

2:10:03 That's not the real. I was just at the SHOT Show in Vegas. and we'll come back. So we were talking about people dressing the part. many people wear on everything from flip-flops to hats, to backpacks, degree, Well, some camo looks cool. Or you go to Cam Haynes' page. I always liked the Tiger Stripe pattern, like the old school. But I think if you scroll down, there's a, he just, that's the pants.

2:13:07 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, like what am I seeing? I think they seem to know when hunting season's going on. I think white tails are just a little bit more switched on than, say, like uh have you have you encountered a mountain lion in the wild yet? No, and I don't look forward to the day My neighbor hunts cats, and he sent me pictures of around our area, of them up in the trees.

2:15:44 though. It was close. And I give it to that guy. was so big. I felt so vulnerable looking at it, even though it was like 30 yards away and I was inside of a truck. The feeling of complete physical inadequacy. If that thing wanted to get you, have to fix if you don't fix them they spray on your walls and this and wrestle him into a hamper. How long did you have him for?

2:18:23 I love animals, but I don't like cats they're assholes Marshall the happiest dog on the face of the planet I'm like, come on man, let's go outside. That's possible. You know that goddamn mountain lion was a buck seventy if it was a pound it was so big man They're not that big. Have you seen this video? Indeed. Cats are savage. That's crazy. Joe, there are people that scuba dive.

2:21:13 are times you can because it's not deep enough. Depends. I can do that, too. But you get a penalty stroke so you don't have to go in the water and you just take a penalty stroke. Yeah, you can just leave it, skip it, fuck that ball. I'm not going after it. But you get a penalty stroke, so you don't have to go in the water, and you just take a penalty stroke.

2:22:20 like you, and particularly Tony where I'd go and I would chip and putt for an hour. All in. Oh, I would add hobbies. So I'm already doing that. You're a seal. to go to your office and crunch numbers on Saturday not really some people are I'm down for that. yeah it's the the ocean is such as a it's so bizarre that we have these two It's a fish apocalypse.

2:25:40 You can't even fucking swim. Is that show still on? we did cold uh cold weather training up in kodiak alaska that I don't think it ever – maybe it gets right to about that. you an appreciation for how little the environment gives a fuck about you or your survival i think your, if you're going to have one, you need to have the other. not to, I would pay the money. Yeah. I'd take out a loan and be like,

2:29:33 But one thing I will tell you is that is available unless you're miserable I think you have to get miserable for a But because of that, I was like, that want to just live on the couch, there's no living on the couch. There's no like, I could do that shit for a few years. one day finding relaxation and comfort. And this is the other thing they think, like one day you're

2:32:08 That's not the way I want to live my life. Nor do I. Yeah. And I think people, it's just an ideal, could show on paper that they're successful it'll make them feel good and i think kids are really That's a theory that I'm working on. I'm not much of a baller. Do they know the code to give them more? I kind of appreciate it. Put a limit on my time. I don't know exactly how they're doing it.

2:35:13 That kind of crazy government overreach is so bizarre. No chance. Are the two candidates that we got to choose from Maybe they're better at hiding. done that's so brilliant, I'm not saying that we should do it but it is brilliant how they've got this connection between their business and their government that's inescapable you cannot The quality of life is terrible.

2:37:40 I went and visited. It's terrible in terms of creativity and innovation and the ability to have a dream and an idea and implement it and then become successful. And when you take that away, you take away people's ability to take a chance and take away people's ability to do what they want. So they'll value that less and the incremental if you again you want to put the tinfoil hat on the incremental removing of those opportunities or ability to make those decisions they won't even realize what is lost because they don't value it

2:40:25 There's not enough people out there that are taking chances of security and and they live this dull gray life like blah forever you you model that if that's he's a fucking really hilarious stand-up comic and he had to kind of lie to his parents he's an engineer and they're like brilliant Like, my biggest fear actually was any of my kids wanting to follow the path that I did.

2:42:44 I'm not going to let them take some wild haphazard risk and not be there as a safety net. I can see that. And my biggest concern is that other kids my kids age will have to have dust on their boots from those countries. I don't speak for the military. was far more legitimate than the reasoning to go into Iraq. He was sitting in the seat at the time the decisions were made. So he has to own those and the consequences that come from them.

2:45:31 They could have done it in a more phased drawdown. They could have listened to the military Like we went to Afghanistan to try to root out the people that planned and executed 9-11. Which is so fucked. the day that we left oh great Oh, great. Fun. Yeah. other than the crazy shit, he introduced me to Brian out to Tate Fletcher he's a man amazing human being

2:49:33 And my theory, even in the military or just growing up is maybe listen to the person in the or an occupation of any kind. You know, a buddy of mine is like telling stories about drug-addicted parents. my opinion on things and it changes my mind on stuff. And I just think it's awesome to be able than I was 10 years ago, say. that exceeds maybe most people.

2:52:49 suggestion. So I have you to thank for that. I wonder how many people I've gotten to start Jocko. hey man, I think that's why you were able to do it. It is not what, like you're saying, I would push back and I would say that there aren't No. It's about the educational opportunities. But again, I mean, whose fault is that? and the job is totally different. And in the same breath, like fucking get over it. You need to move

2:56:45 one career and going into another career. But it seems like with military, it's such a, And I say this from personal experience. When you leave that being presented with tasks that you have to go out and find them. I'm very passionate about it. training katas, right? The thing about it is like the type of people that you do jujitsu with are the type of people that do jujitsu.

2:59:11 It's a known metric for sure. I'm a better person because of it. I think I have more of a passion for life. I think I can world to actually not get better because they could potentially reduce your rating from the VA, And I don't care what you do in the military. Hear, hear. Is it on Spotify? They will demonetize stuff. This is going to be on your channel.

3:02:18 Bye, everybody. Thank you.