Joe Rogan Experience #1789 — Tom Papa Transcript

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0:00 the Joe Rogan experience But I wouldn't have been able to bring you bread, so I flew home. No, I'm lying. And I hadn't made that in probably a year. And, yeah. Yeah. It's an opioid. Oh, it's like in a condom. Right? gingerly walking through security oh it says a drug, canine dog alerted. You just smell it. Did people ask you? I thought that Just sneak stuff in the bread.

4:20 Something that would stand heat. Oh my god Great Woods. and we'd just put it in their bucket. Oh, yeah? Your free will? You're already on the plane. i'm like you know the pilot's waiting for the whatever and it just becomes clear he's drunk And he's like, oh, my bad. we're boarding group one he's like let's go i'm like we're a team now i'm like why are we a team

8:09 It's like kindergarten cutting. Everyone's getting on. You go to the airport. It's scary, especially if you don't fly all the time. They should be handing out edibles at the end of security. and with weapons. Oh, yeah. People get very tense about a guy in front of them The group behind shut the F up. like you go to a fancy place, right? Annoying. and they came up

10:55 first of all, and no alcohol she goes you're a real piece of shit and she smacks him in the head oh my god he's like an they can't breathe without like anything on their face they're struggling and the number of times i You're on top of each other. Very hard for a lot of folks. drink and trying to have some laughs good on you that's not a small thing that we did that was a big especially in the beginning when you're like

14:33 We got through... I just don't know how when someone gets sent off, how do you bring them back? They just always had the mentality of like, yeah, big deal. going forward and trying to stay positive it's like in the doing like the small of the little crisis carl sagan that is great yeah yeah perspective perspective that's the biggest got a little resolve that's right that's right experienced a little life yeah you got through it

17:22 So scary. Yeah. I don't think he does. Do they have more than us? I thought the power of our So you have to have proof of that. But I was under the impression, I believe I read something, Like, if there's 40 million people in Ukraine, If they actually went out and did that. That's like if Washington, D.C. invaded California. Yeah. how do you just do that just go in and just it's horrible so I don't I don't know I don't I'm like

21:47 they recognize crimea as being russian but i think they also want ukraine to demilitarize itself And also, if your president dies, we want to put a president in. They made an attempt at his life. Oh, my God. takes a day or two to find out what's true and what's not true. At least we're finding something I wonder what the situation is in Russia. And now you're bombing them.

24:42 Yeah, I remember those days. Mm-hmm. I remember those days clearly. Fought Drago. It's all starting to feel hopeful. Again, I'm not a foreign policy expert. It's about 15 minutes, that video or so. Could they have done it a different way? next to Russia. Like Dakota Meyer on the podcast, who's a veteran, who's got a famously insane story for ourselves

28:00 it seems so isolating but that's what makes it even crazier insane photo that's him having his That looks good. That's what it said. $49.99. soldiers or this country turns out like or he gets just militarily defeated but he has this thing at It says Putin is living in a strict health bubble, and the Kremlin confirmed the extreme Yeah. Do they share that with the world?

32:06 And is he in great health? It's all too scary and unknown. The only way it goes good is if Putin backs out. And they said it was probably in the neighborhood of 500,000. it's nuts man so crazy so how many times over can we blow up everybody i am trying to find that out It says one kiloton nuclear weapon nuclear destructive capability? to you've got to really hope that he doesn't want that he loves russia so much he doesn't want russia

35:41 I don't like that either. Fuck him. Yeah, how do you stay safe? Right. Yeah, I'm scared. he sent them all in when everyone was watching all the people amassing and they're like i don't know Well, it's the face of a killer. you know one of the things that I was saying You're So now you just start to get an understanding of how things work, It's kind of weird, right? Yeah.

39:01 had because clearly he's declining. He's not really running the show. Christian Bale. He's all skinny with my buddy Matt. I mean, what he's able to do with his body, the transformations he puts himself through. And then what was the other one he did with Adam McKay with the money, It was Empire, not Empire. Oh, yeah. Wow. This was not like, look, i put on a play in fifth grade

41:52 Right. because it's i want to say it was i thought it was mickey ward's brother not to sidetrack but my drug addict troubled people love spam Is that his name? You know, as Batman. They probably photoshopped his shirt. Yeah. He's vengeance defined, right? Oh, you're a fucking Hollywood guy. Yeah. I just love that dumb fun comedy. I know I've seen these before.

45:40 falls and go, watch this. These are real, man. This is Buster Keaton. He grabs the back of this trolley car no that's not real that is not real how does he do it though that's definitely not how'd he do it he was like one of Not all of them, because he got fucked up doing some of these, too. Wow, look at that. There's a small chance it just was on a... Like, he did some of it,

47:40 Dude, this makes my hands sweat just looking at it. No. What do you think the desire is to do your own stunts? Oh. He learned how to race helicopters. Like sideways. Jeez. Yeah. And he's going through this valley. Yeah. Like sideways. Well, yeah, if you believe it. Well, and by the way, stuntmen die. Really? Of course. It's insane. I didn't even know I was falling.

51:42 of grazed it a little bit with my head and i think I might have broke a rib because I'm still in pain down here. Can you touch it, and do you feel like an – We brought him up a couple of times because he fought in Bellator a couple weeks ago. and the plates that they put in place ah put his ribs back together yeah there's the kick look at You posted a kick like a month ago?

53:11 at his his ribs all of these plates put in them now oh my god yeah just just to kind of puncture It was Colby Covington versus Jorge Masvidal. You know a guy. I think, when is it? that's in Florida. that'd be great. just salivating. John George Steakhouse, insanely good. It's so good. So that's it. They have them up there until the steaks reach like an internal temperature of, you know, like 110 degrees or something like that.

56:42 I can never get that outside char at home. Do you have sausages too? Not with the elk. What I really like, which I think you told me, is for breakfast. Right. Something about the smells of cooking, too. Peppers and some garlic. I put some olive oil, let the olive oil get up to temperature, She's a famous chef, Italian chef. and she said but Dude, I've seen like literally 40 or 50 hours of videos

1:00:14 And I don't know what they're saying because they're all talking in Italian. Don't understand it, but you're just watching them. Yeah. would put it at like you know 250 260 somewhere somewhere on that line and have a meat thermometer What's that? But basically what it is, it's like at a certain temperature, like some oils will become fucked up and they burn.

1:02:19 But with beef tallow, you can get it hot as fuck. Is that what they call it? And then the inside, it's very perfect. Right. Flavorful. and when I do it slowly, I use like a meter probe, So I could be watching TV or whatever and just chilling. it rest very long either because you sort of slowly cooked it to that 120 degrees anyway, Nice, nice, nice.

1:05:10 July 2nd. Oh, that'd be cool. Right. i'm not sure he said he's says working out and walking around you can see him walking around That'd be a big payday. Charles Oliveira is the current champion, because that doesn't give you a lot of time. Oh, boy. and most likely they're going to fuck each other up. They're having a lockout. I know. what's the dispute

1:08:48 We stuck with you through this stupid ass pandemic, through everything. Where the fuck are the hot dogs? will they work it out and save the season? Right, but if you're a player and you realize that the owners who said that you don't give us time to think about it who said that Lived for those Yankees. Yeah, I loved it when I was a kid until I started doing martial arts.

1:11:18 And we had to wait for the T, you know, the local transportation system. And he became a mentor to me later on. in the middle of training. definitely how I fell in love with that kick. The sound is the thing that gets you. But you're still fast. I mean, it's still fast. A lot of things have to be moving in coordination. Right. Do you like soccer? You know what I mean?

1:14:24 No, I know exactly what you mean. They go too hard. So if you could throw a couple names that that guy doesn't know, you're the phonies are gross phonies are so phonies are gross and i run into phonies like Right. So shut the fuck up. Yeah. The whole thing. He lives it. one of the other owners, and we're going to go watch a game, and then we're going to do

1:16:48 But again, he fucking loves, but Ian doesn't have, he has zero phony in his body. Yeah. It might have never happened. what the fuck he's doing either have a long history of combat sports. And then he fell down and he hit him. He doesn't even know who to hit. I got a family. I found a chair. I'm going to fucking hit something. There was one moment. Nothing serious.

1:19:25 out in a crowd? Oh, shit, that guy got laid out. You just take your kids to see a game, and this is what happens. Look at his arm. Were actually presumed dead. Someone always gets really messed up in the parking lot. Yeah, it's like a replacement of war. That's what football was actually invented for. When they were in between, when there was no war to fight.

1:22:17 I think you need to give people things like that to do. Yeah. Were you ever a hockey fan? and it was like this huge thing so I didn't just show up when they won the cup but I I bailed at a certain point well when I you So I didn't watch any sports after that. And no YouTube, by the way. I would record it and watch it later, play it back. That's amazing. Oh, my God.

1:24:20 Right. Oh, my God. Like the shoes they ran in. Jim Thorpe, legendary Native American athlete, had his shoes stolen just before he was about Yeah. Look at that vintage shoe. God. Yeah. You weren't putting on board shorts and a t-shirt. And you looked out at the audience. Like, look. put it out of fashion after Kennedy he was the guy they talk about it all the time And that changed the fashion. And yeah, hats fell out of favor. No kidding. After Kennedy, yeah.

1:27:11 The beautiful hat. And there was etiquette and there was rules. It looks it. There wasn't even a lot of forward passing back then. But what does it have to do with the military? fearing that Native Americans might actually die out. And I read a series of books, and one of them was Black Elk Speaks. Elastic bands inside their jersey, creating something of a pocket.

1:29:58 They were almost like cheating, but not really. how they were indoctrinated into white people ways when you saw them all of a sudden in suits and ties It's crazy. thriving metropolis you come back in 50 years there's no one it's abandoned jeez like imagine and where are they getting these rocks from, they had ritual human sacrifice so they had these

1:33:26 There was also. Human head for soccer. Do you think there are cultures And it coincides with the very rapid end of the Ice Age. that indicate massive amounts of water that had gone through an area Yeah. there's a giant percentage of all the megafauna. Iridium is very, very rare on Earth, but very common in space. People at one point in time had reached a very high level of sophistication and they

1:36:48 you don't have to bring that up I do Yeah. Yeah, there's a company called Foundation Cigars. I don't know enough about cigars to comment on what. That is the move. Like oh I thought that was right Oh, you don't even know? Sometimes you got to bullshit yourself. He's out there. Yeah, the one guy, right? Oh, the guys went to belong. NBA referees that would shave points. They were corrupt. Yeah, the one guy, right?

1:39:15 Yeah. Why can't you bet on a game? Yeah, but your old roommate from college is playing. That's Pete Rose, right? I'll get you some of those. I thought so, too. Yeah, no, I'm actually looking at what happened with this player, too. on the non-football illness list. the thing we're about to look up might not yeah so he said in the book he never bet against the

1:41:37 But did he I think that's where I'm like, I wasn't even alive then. I didn't bet on my team four nights a week. According to him. I've known quite a few that have have real problems I think people need lessons in how to manage their thought process. so this may be the right time to bet against them. You might say Rose was still trying to I'll not bet here, but you can make your money.

1:44:36 I knew a comic, and this was a comic in Boston, and he worked for the mob. Oh, no. He left Boston, though. Jeez. I know. Oh, yeah, right, right. perception of what you look like and you think you look like shit and everybody looks at you like Delusion? Yeah. You don't even have to go into the details. It's such a lie. Listen to the difference. What's going on over there?

1:49:46 He's not gross. He's a good husband. I'd rather him just hang out with us. doing the kettlebell thing? That looked like my wrist would snap. And then again. But some guys wear a pad on their forearms What's great about that So my body knows how to coordinate weight. that this came from, right? Yeah, that's the article. dad bod type, a label that has been

1:53:04 of showing off their proud physique. Right. Yeah, I was an athlete. It's just like, here's another one that I found. Nothing wrong with being gay. Yes. I'll give you one right in the smacker. Put on some pants. of fucking being dummy literally said we were talking about like the the plight that men have and he goes uh you You just declared that men are even worse than we thought.

1:56:32 It takes forever. Imagine you're raising a child. Yeah. How many abortions would there be? 100%. Guys are the window. Out the window. No, of course. Yeah. Oh, guys are the worst. If you took a person from 10,000 years ago, and you put them in a movie theater mm-hmm and dressed him up like with a baseball Jeez. they there's they had to have been so different like my when i just read stories about that or

1:59:21 so much violence inside of us. What is, my body has requirements I bet it's going to be so fun. I don't know. there's a lot of crime sure oh yeah what a great thing to have around your whole family crime Back that up again. Notice. Before she did that Go back to what she looked like Yeah but she'd lost too much weight. You can go to a club. You can buy stuff.

2:02:42 It made me... They live in the mountain. Watch this dog. Just take off. That's like dogs play. Labs are the best. So sweet. they're the most inbred right or whatever they are they are. Oh, my God. You know what's so funny? They're lovable, but man. Right. Look at that little fella. That's Frank? Yeah. it was so peaceful and warm and beautiful yeah that's what the bug does except he's snoring and

2:06:35 Yeah. You remember that animated film? They were just all chubby and they were like in these little walkers. Wow. This, like, the whole body acceptance movement and fat phobia, which is so crazy. Right. You have a pack a day. He's probably 65. Yeah. before because i've taken care of it and done like a lot of uh therapies for them and regenequin and

2:09:52 Right. but it's tricky. Like I was just talking bone and it was fucked so they had to put in a new disc so that brings your neck it was kind of like bone on bone. And it was fucked. My friend Eddie, Eddie Bravo, he got one in his lower back. In pain all the time. active and i don't know if they fused it or they put one in like you're saying but he couldn't

2:11:54 They have like these titanium discs that are articulated. amazing and he was tapping it on the microphone yeah he'd go click click click click click it's Yeah. And they put a screw that goes down into the bone. How old is he there, Joe? he's demonstrating some techniques. What's that sound? At that age? And I don't have those problems yet. and they're usually younger than me.

2:15:17 of course i like looking good right yes who likes looking like shit yeah try you can pretend you it's normal so many men that i know that you would never guess bodybuilders take crazy amounts right you know and that's not that's not safe felt whatever i had pizza we went we had pizza i like inflamed it i was in so much pain after Yeah, because I went for a physical, and I hope this isn't too boring, but I went for a physical, and he was like, your testosterone levels are fine.

2:18:32 It's everyone that I know that does it. any kind of like mental sickness yeah whether it's gambling or alcohol whatever yeah well it's He tried to keep his body mass was in like full that's why i didn't pull it up earlier oh they didn't have any images of it see Scott Murray passed away. We always hear that about people that they work 16 hours a day, they're constantly stressed

2:20:56 and you're trying to accomplish something, His workouts would typically burn around 1,400 calories. The guy who had the most Mr. Olympia's. Unfortunately. Yeah, that's what he looked. He's had multiple. Look at the fucking size of him. But he was so dedicated He used to lift He finished the set He was, I mean, listen, you only get to be a legend in that sport,

2:23:15 But Dorian Yates is a great example. And Dorian, that's what he looks like now. Look at those. Man, oh, man. I don't know what... Coleman was the fucking man. guys anybody had ever seen the only way you get that big is incredible amounts of work and Look at the size of them. All right. I'm going to get some testosterone. You're going to need a lot more than that, bro.

2:25:21 Right. They never look like Ronnie Goldman. Right. That's possible to achieve naturally. Yeah. Look at that. I really enjoyed having him on the podcast. It's amazing. you could do you do one it's pretty much the least you can do one is the least you do yeah but you And I always think, oh my God, you're going to like bone. Yes. And, and, and, and skin. And I always think,

2:28:15 No, let me get the hormone. And then ramp it up I'm always like, no, this week I'm going to do it. Those little adjustments that they just come over to you. No, it's a big difference. Everybody caught that. Vitamins. had insufficient levels of vitamin D. That's Rhonda Patrick. Right. And I work out here in town with my friend John Wolf, who's the head trainer at the Onnit Gym.

2:32:23 Right. off with a buddy. Yeah. Laugh and joke around. Right. Right. You really should be doing another and trying to better themselves, I'm on the bike. You don't want to overdo it where it takes away from other things you do no of course but that that guy that died no yeah he obviously went too far patience for people yeah empathy yeah you're right you know why is that why i think a lot of our

2:34:56 Right. Yeah. I wouldn't bet on that. We just love each other. He's like, I'm moving back, man. Last time we did a podcast together, I was sitting in that seat. He's so crazy. So much so. i'm gonna send you these jamie because they're fucking sweet um but he changed this new one where he does it. The old one had, some of it was yak hair. He criticized my werewolf and said iton and he created the first werewolf right he um

2:38:08 He did the whole thing in animal hair. That's the idea. He does a lot of stuff for films. I mean, that's Patrick right there. Oh, it's scary. Isn't that wild? That's his big foot. I believe that. american world from london you saw it briefly in these scenes and that's one of the things that but pull up the one from American Werewolf in London, Yeah, it was.

2:41:13 And it was also funny. He's like, what the fuck are you talking about? Yeah, I remember. This fucking movie is one of my all-time favorites. It wasn't walking around in a suit. What's Piccadilly? Oh, yeah. I think he'd already killed a guy in there. Trying to bring rifles And these people are like, what's going on over there? Oh, there goes his head.

2:45:03 i think they called it Wolf. That's Benicio Del Toro. Him and that guy from that fucking cop show. It's like it's so fake looking. You make a leap like this. no, there's good people. But now he's got a saber. Come on, But it's nothing significant. Right. So this is one where they had decided So this doctor... all the way, but some CGI. Yeah. And they try to get away

2:48:59 Look at this guy Seems to be locked, sir. yeah that's a good one But then here, it's like a real guy running. Yeah. That was a better sound. Lonely Chaney Jr., the wolf man. like that movie the the wolfman with benicio del toro was ultimately kind of a failure oh they are then there's you couldn't do I just showed it bad comedies yeah just swinging for the fences and then every once in a while one of them would hit

2:53:36 The nerds were creeps. And she thinks it's with the other guy. I tried watching that movie. I was like, okay, stop, stop, stop, stop. He just gives her to the nerd. Right. The invention of social media changed everybody's acceptance of what is okay to joke around. Was it good? It's pretty funny. Hmm. And it's right. You know, and that's, you don't.

2:56:54 No, there's been some other ones. of the Mohicans. Did it just stop making comedy movies? But it's not just that. American Psycho, you could do that movie today. Even if it's like completely unacceptable. who think that that whole thing went too far. They're not afraid of whether or not they'd have a market. Right. I am 100% struggling. I was trying to think.

2:59:41 They're great. It was fun Yeah And Will Ferrell There's a few of those family-friendly comedies that pop up. But it wasn't as top rated as The Hangover was today you can make it but I think people are scared I think people are scared of I'm deep in the highest grossing comedies, Ted. Jonah Hill. And didn't Scorsese make that? Wow. Yeah, 21st, 2012.

3:03:19 I think they will. in the movie business because you couldn't go to the movies anymore. television shows are amazing now like you watch ozark right where that's where it gets made. Even then. You can't have funny in a broken lead character. just to imagine how much Yeah. I'm looking through comedies coming up. He's like, hey, Nick, you need a million dollars, right?

3:06:44 They can still do it. Tiffany Hash is happens oh okay gotta love nick cage they can still Yeah, I've been everywhere. Look at you, you fucking traveling fool. I haven't performed there. Is that what that is? Oh. started i did my first one at the win at the encore theater i've heard that's an awesome i Breaking Bread Podcast I love you buddy Until next time.