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0:00 The Joe Rogan Experience. around no missing around i found out about your documentary from my friend cam haynes he's the one so you're telling us so you should explain to me like why why you're in So at that point, what did the British government said was, So they made some sort of a truce. there were like 32,000 people applying for it. i forget everything we didn't even have like flip-flops you know forget that the food we

3:44 I mean it's a very small amount of money. Yeah. they were like you know what i want my sister and my brother to go to the boarding school were you when you were doing this i was 16 i started when i was 15 so a year of training so So it's really tight schedule. Wow. There's like, you know, a thing called, you know, UK Special Forces, like SAS and SBS.

7:31 mentioned you know like equivalent to your silt m6 so they operate from air water in underwater this training regime, Joe. Then I arrive at the military barracksacks then i start my normal military running that could be you know eight miler run or you know I go to the gym, and then I cycle 64 kilometers on the push bike this is one And it was like that.

10:27 directing staff would call it, And yeah, in 200 years of history, I became the first Gurkha ever to pass the selection for SBS. I know you did it. I don't think it's a discipline. For example, you know, if your parents is waking you up at six o'clock, you still wake up. And I start, you know, kind of planting that into my brain, And then obviously that wasn't the same level of training as I did when I went for the Special Forces selection.

13:32 I was that much, you know, I would say ambitious and motivated. Yeah, as you've seen on that movie on K2 and all that, So, but as I grew older, as I joined, you know, the Gurkhas, then the special forces, And I was like, no one, because I didn't even thought I would go and climb until I was 30-year-old. all I'm thinking is, like, how did you not destroy your knees?

16:00 And I think because, you know, that is more for like flexibility and all this stuff. I've been around the world. background is, whatever that is, you can literally show the world And as a give back to them, when they get older, they're also invulnerable. financial contributor in our family. the world that nothing is impossible there's no excuses excuses. But that's not a career, right?

19:53 I had never experience of doing the fundraising. So the reason why it's called death zone is from that altitude, nobody Again, you know, those guys who who are listening just to put this into simple You don't have any experience in filmmaking idea You don't have any experience in filmmaking And then you just decide So the high altitude mountaineering is quite expensive.

22:42 There was no funding after one year of like going everywhere. And then what I did the first thing was. And, you know, I write that in a very long letter, And that's why it was so stressful because now all out. But here, it was mental. you know that this is possible I believed in you no no that's not what I So even when they say things like that, so of course people were like, Bull says it's like swimming to the moon you know so even

25:30 Forget Netflix. It would drive me nuts. That was me. Yeah. climbers one die no that's not on annapurna this is that's really this is annapurna that's k2 Jamie's looking it up right now. Annapurna. So it's not quite that much. reach the top, one person dies. It's fucking Jamie. you know entrepreneurs and you know what this was probably the first time in my history where i was

29:41 Or do you think that's from the training that you had when you were a young boy do you think you just like made yourself have insane cardio from those runs you did when you're You know, the hard work, the training and training and training. That's very hot. 113? study on some of the Sherpas that assist the people on Mount Everest in that altitude yes that's correct i think the dinosaurs probably were adapting but a lot of

32:20 We actually showed that photo the other day on the podcast where it shows you in this And you know what So the one that I took So if one of those guys falls, does everybody go like a pile of dominoes? Okay. everyone who's listening to this, you know, podcast. And look, imagine- And that takes five weeks. But nobody really died of that. Yeah. Too many people on Everest

36:03 Yeah So we cleaned Manaslu last year in September. For me, I can live there, too. the ditch and how i can i can explain to everybody explain to everybody is like you're drowning in the sea. And, yeah, because it's the element. means you know you develop a fluid in your brain altitude cerebral edema. So that means, you know, you The weather was perfect.

39:06 That's in the film. Dhaulagri, it took us five days, non-stop. I want to go back to Hays. Now day five plus, I haven't slept. altitude so let's say on everest or even in k2 more than, I think, 60 people at Camp 4, So I, I went onto the radio and I begged for help. Is it just because it's so dangerous that they weren't willing to risk their lives? In another sense

43:01 Nobody would come So I had to send him down. Then Migma David, fuck. can they walk literally 15 minutes And he passed away. it's still trying to function come on nim's you know so i was looking for my even exit route how I really don't know. I had enough with those people. Yeah. Jesus. But you're still survived and two died? Yeah. Wow. Yeah. It's the nature.

45:54 So people climb Everest Yeah. Is it a cheaper vacation? It's a bit more cheaper. And eventually, as soon as I climb one mountain, project which I'll come into a bit later the what of the project the flaming So again, you know, brother, nothing is impossible. in different part of the of the table and we did a big uh i would say um kind of like oxen who would

49:05 So it's his wife, you know, Chai. That movie's incredible too. Right. A lot of people who want to go into the filming industry and all said, and you are flying the drone and, you know, like climbing same point but i knew that i had to do this even another tough Yeah, that's a real problem with like anytime you're trying to document reality and you have a camera,

50:56 We are not doing the acting and all that, so it's natural. filming all my tour and honestly joe we haven't even used like most of the footage because it's Yeah, they should do that. It just seems like and they're always looking for content My dad was in Chitwan where I'm from. they probably never thought they could do before yeah you know what so we yeah it was the most

53:30 competing with The Rock a bit of overwhelming in comparison to what this guy went. that does change your perspective knowing that it's possible to push beyond the boundaries that you think exist. Because David But it's people like you and him that have done insane things that have that ability to when when you were close was was there ever a moment where

56:47 Still crazy. Eight years. Look, when I did the full planning, I knew that this could be done in four months. How many mountains did you climb in 48 hours? And you see in the movie, you know, like the whole thing what I had to do in order to get the permission from China was next level. I carry only just to give, like, it's the training again, the mentality.

59:10 So you are like super out of breath and you are dehydrating. and all this having that survival kind of mentality, you'll just be dead. have, then you take it. If it's nice to have, you don't It's multiplied by that much element. Wow. that's the end of it you can go and have fun whatever you do in life you know of course you Yeah. there's a saying like you know it's not the the rock you know that wears you out you know it's

1:02:51 I'm going to say anyway. baseline of this whole story so so you just went with netflix because it has a broader audience yes So people can, you know, like, listen in different languages. You're doing great. What the fuck does that mean? It obviously worked. Hold on. People know that I love extraordinary accomplishments. who's genuine I listen I think it's perfect I don't think it would have been bigger come on son

1:06:15 So I don't think there's a lot of people like you out there. world records uh and i submitted everest i got back down to camphor and let's say now i'm supposed to rescue somebody. So it was used to save his life. And I completely believe in that lie. And Do you? Maybe they're extremely poor. No, because let's give my own example. you have been working hard in in your own world in your work and you have saved that money you can go

1:10:15 I would say, of course, because he can experience that. What I really believe is a lot of people, like they all have rights to the adventure. for that mindset to develop into different thing. And I think we humans should be more open to be helping each other So if it's a bunch of rich people that are climbing Mount Everest, they decide to just shit on these rich people that are climbing Mount Everest because it's an easy way to find a negative angle on what's a positive accomplishment.

1:12:53 That is amazing that you're going to do that. and said, Nims, you know what? You announced the big mountain cleanup project. We are part How would they be able to contribute? All that stuff to the left of you, all that colorful stuff? Let's play the film. Yeah. Yeah. I'm a Babylon towards the end of autumn in 2022 again, Because there's a lot of bodies up there, right?

1:16:00 Oh. yeah yeah it was on the whole agree so it was my first a thousand meter peak So no one knows? now said hey brother you need to turn around and he said no my only way is up when you're on that So do you cut the line? because people take one step and they wait for like three, because it's so much thinner it's almost 9 000 meters so wow yeah yeah that's uh that's very

1:18:54 But, yeah, you know, we can climb without oxygen and few people can do it if they're trained for that. So you did it just because it's hard. And the reason why I went and made that quick decision was, Like, by summiting in winter is such a big thing. that video on k2 winter if you go on to the NIMS dice a project you can find out That's just clothes.

1:22:12 And the summit is where? And why I say we is, Joe, in every mountaineering history, like most of the time, it's one person submitting. Yeah, this is the one, buddy. saying you got a lot to do like so you're gonna do some other crazy shit a So, yeah. nothing bigger than this like of course there is bigger than this it It's like when, you know, first, you know,

1:24:33 Really? It's done though. And I said to them, guys, we are from Nepal, very poor country, Nimsta, you're fucking serious. Yes, it's on online. And last five meters, so i would like you to notice over there so that's me without oxygen over there okay the one with the um red summit suit next to this You say yeah, yeah, like no big deal. Yeah. Jamie wants to, he told me before this, he wants to climb with you.

1:28:00 Trust me. I hated the mountain. And that's the only reason I went to Everest. being in the mountains but that is uh no but different that's you know like i really want Did you make good money from the Netflix thing to the point where you can kind of relax for a little bit? That must be like a big line. And when they saw her, like, carrying her own tent, dragging everything, and, you know, because I want her to be credible.

1:30:50 Like how many people do Everest every year? I'm going to tell you these statistics. 8,000 meter peak exped expedition and i have never fell If you have someone that you're going to take to the top of the mountain, Just to put into breaking down into perspective, you could be completely fine. I would say they have to be necessarily very fit. Would you recommend someone do something like, I they have these uh tents oh yeah yeah so a lot of people do that but it's good to have it but it's

1:34:43 Some people take take you know five hours exactly same routine No, it's all... Exactly. And that's when it hits it. And Camp 4, you're on Everest. I can take people in a month. I heard that before. It's like making time for yourself. know why adventure like and i say why it heals everything is because when when you get into those Well, I can imagine that the difficulty of it, the power of just being out there in that insanely beautiful environment,

1:40:17 done and uh when i first went to the mountain it really made me feel humble the nature was like you know what it put me into back into my shoes and elements so then i really started loving that and then and i and i started extra work is not extra hours because you are enjoying it. and the money that all these things will follow. It's not like a job that you dread where you show up every day.

1:42:22 And then go and do it because it's one life. risky step of you know that job Oh, my God. Your wife was probably like, what? But for most people, when they've achieved a certain amount of success, I honestly, you know, I used to slap my face. and you're dancing and even it's like two o'clock in the morning you would still you still dance and This is when things could, like, go wrong.

1:46:07 And she's like, yeah. A few hotels in Kathmandu and all, they get in touch and they were looking after my free stay and all that. And that was, and she still didn't know it, That had to be amazing to make your mother so proud. and after I finished the project, It was all like made that's uh that's something that's i think the hardest for people to recognize the people that

1:49:26 certainly for your mental health. And it's not good in terms of, you know, like you living. and become a better version. I'm better at managing myself. of podcast before like you started and and how did these things like came for you this is just What I've gotten out of this podcast that I didn't necessarily think that I wanted in my life, it just sort of happened, was an education in communicating with extraordinary people.

1:51:56 There's so many interesting and extraordinary people A lot of people even in Nepal listen to you. Well done, brother. I'm fascinated by the way people live their lives and you try to get, like, that, you know, like, eagerness. It's uncomfortable sometimes. that I think people have for whatever reason not thought of as a skill or as a you know my key key messaging was your there's no excuse in life right we all can make excuse and say okay wish i had that

1:55:28 You fucked up. Special Forces so the key point here is the all-around defense but it was so hard you know the bullets were flying everywhere so those guys got scared and I had to go up in order to to pin that enemy position so So of course, you know, my long barrel weapon is not in use anymore. I fought for like six hours just with pistol. wasn't even zeroed to my eye.

1:58:38 But again, you know, and some of them just said, yeah, you know what? I had given up my job. I have sold my house, pension, everything. And and I'm trying to do this good thing. the centrality of the mission. And I wipe up my tears and I drop down. Now, 18 months later i will tell you this the gherkas didn't had we don't have the equal And even to have the debate on parliament,

2:01:20 And when people say negative to me in my life, Joe, what I say is like, you know what? You know, like, again, I see how it is. This is, it's Albert Einstein. But that, there is something to that, man, that there's a, do you know what crabs in They get upset when other people do. you decided to frame it in a positive way So they look to other people that are successful, and they try to find the worst aspects of those people.

2:04:31 You know, like why? and go oh i see what you're doing i see what you're doing yeah i see what you're doing and know guys can we not can we not be like a bit open-minded now we are at the century i think we There's some people that just can't help lash out at other people. spending so much of your energy, time, and everything about them. It's so common. It's so normal, but it's really, they're stealing from themselves because your time and your energy is so valuable and time that you spend worrying about what other

2:07:40 think are shitty people but they do amazing things I like to compliment failure and that you can benefit from other people's success because it elevates your own because they have been hanging around with you I spend now. Don't even focus on that. My brother Is 14 Peaks When you do something else crazy Bye, everybody.