Joe Rogan Experience #1815 — The Black Keys Transcript
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0:00 The Joe Rogan Experience Thank you, thank you. I listened to it at the gym this morning, in fact, right before I got here. It was fucking good, man. You know, we learned to play together, you know, it's very, I believe, in fate after meeting, our, same pace we just wanted to we were like fascinated with albums we wanted to make records and we were around 2000 and uh it was 2001 it's like right around 9 11 i bought this like digital 12 track
2:50 and we recorded them real quick. Dan's dad's like a folk art dealer, antiques dealer. and would write stories about this guy. And it was like a complete inside joke. And they also sent this little paragraph contract, at this house we lived in. and Dan would come over every day, I'd always wake up early, so I'd wait until like 10 to come over. were in the bottom of the oven i guess you guys didn't use the oven much dude it was nuts but
6:18 like and man you got to go on the road man and like he had this mercenary cell phone that was like too expensive for us to even use and we were in this 1994 Plymouth Grand and just totally pretty I mean but, I mean, we saw the world together. were there to like record go to a recording studio because we couldn't He's like a ball of hashish. It's like hash. Yeah, it was like clay. You know what I mean? Yeah
9:09 That's what the fucking place looked like. called Chop Suey and it was crazy. We got a weekly write up or a stranger write up. We got a weekly write up to get us home and I woke up at like, And I pee in this Gatorade bottle, but I get pissed all over the van. I was like, what the fuck? I mean, it's pretty fucking incredible. Does it come out today?
11:51 Like, right away. 2012. back to that first record be like oh yeah this would be you know if i was a 15 year old i like who uh wears dresses and and sings in his basement. And he set up a fucking, like a curtain Nothing sounds crisp and clean. You got it? like that. Got a really, really, really, really, really, really sweet treat to put your womb into heat.
15:52 Keep it on the background a little bit. He's like fucking Windows 98. Yeah, I knew you would. he's into really weird stuff and he's like So he paid to record them. They all have these thick New England accents. at this this is crazy let me hear this he's amazing well all right I see that would bounce That one bounced back in my head, see, like this.
19:01 Baby, I just can't help you now That's wild. I listen to Robert Johnson sometimes. I think it was at an ACLU benefit celebrating Lenny Bruce 18 years ago. listen to the original recordings I mean they he was so revolutionary there's people that thought he sold his soul I what they say, yeah. Yeah. it came out last year, called Delta Cream. because I was listening to this band
22:41 that came out last year It was amazing. I did a record on him. And, like, that's where we played. We don't even play until later. Wow. you know how was that possible it's it's the thing that it's the most like a drug It's fucking cool. It does work, though. literally feel like you just went through something like oh that was great absolutely than being in the same room with a great band.
26:45 He goes, I was 19. like music on YouTube but when it you know when I do it's like someone like anybody want any coffee? he was actually before Well, you're literally holding on to a speaker. Paris 1970 and I mean to the I think it's the best concert footage I've ever a young Ozzy the drummer Bill Ward belt loop Thank you. So check it out. well there wasn't hitler on speed yes you ever see the video no at the i think it was the 1936
31:35 Look at him. So fucked up. Like how bad that was going to wreck you Holy fuck Holy fuck. And that is fucking crazy. We were on tour and someone was like you should take to have some of this adderall I was at LaGuardia nodding off. and I was like, I'll never touch that stuff again. Jesus. I bet we'd all be shocked. for no reason and like Twitter a Twitter spat
35:45 you know that you're writing you're doing activism or something just being shitty to people I've got a 14-year-old girl, and I worry so much about her with social media and how just what she thinks of everyday normal life. whenever that was and you know what is like online dating like for people either when you're just But I guess everyone's always said that.
37:55 When we were making this album, insane stories from high school how fun it was how crazy but we were kind of like the last generation And yeah, she's never seen a fight. we the whole concept was that we were just like gonna try to passed around not even to touch it with you this is what probably the most If it's yours, yeah. I mean, I don't know what you can show.
41:32 Fuck, man. in school and she was like yourself and i was just bullshitting you know but then like the next year he would ask all the boys at the end of the season Yeah. What's scary is a tiny percentage of people that are just fucking freaks. you know the the fact that a person could ever do that and the fact that it happens often from for the human race.
44:40 This is one of those it might not be fine moments. to show or hanging out and they wanted it they want to hang out with us after for doing whippets to build I got high off of it I don't think I got high off of it. My friend's dad was a dentist, and they used mean they're he's about 10 years older than me so this is years ago but they would they would
46:57 You can get therapeutic ketamine drips. You're just psychedelic tripping in a doctor's office. but in order. I don't know, dude. He wanted to do it all the time. that John Lilly used to take hit his thigh are you depressed dan have a seat i gotta fuck i'm gonna bring you to another dimension we know He taught himself how to sleep on acid. What is that?
49:54 Some of them though would make it better. I went to school with a girl whose dad had taken too much acid. There's a book about that that Alex Berenson wrote trigger that. Oh, I had a Oh, Jesus. Yeah. Yeah. You guys ever heard of That they would do and they'd film them and ask them questions and shit. I met this chick who was in the, but they both were agents and they,
53:28 But yeah, I'd always wanted to be in the CIA. Yeah, young kids. Charles Manson, was going on back then. i went on stage in front of like 15 000 people he was like yeah ufo for an hour he was like ufos are real they're watching I was like, okay, yeah, they're Russian. But a part of it probably was the fact that Tom DeLonge was telling me that, like, he told me that, he was like, do you remember the blackout that happened in 2003 in New York?
56:24 Yeah, I had Tom on my podcast, and he's a really nice guy. You want to believe in UFOs. I'm like, dude, this is the fakest looking shit I've ever seen in my life. I mean we have fucking radar jammers on front license plates to try to stop cops from you know Yes. and we would rent these things and, like, you know. Well, I mean, those conspiracy movies.
58:50 oh yeah there's like like we have been You'd have full control of the world. And so I get on this boat, and it's like, this thing's flying. And they had forward-looking infrared. whatever you call it, skipper. I was like, that's like, stolen from them. They're arms straight up. They're armed. Oh, yeah, so those things are like military vehicles I know I heard that Romans had some fucking weapons on it. They fuck you Jesus Christ
1:01:32 Straight up, dude. Look at that thing. Holy moly. but do they have to find out how they made their money? who's going to buy the Russian yachts? I do remember that. Yeah, they trained them to be essentially suicide bombers. Christ they've got poison dart guns that they can shoot. We armed dolphins and taught them to fuck things up. and she gives birth, the baby has
1:04:52 Damn. And I was talking to a buddy of ours and he's like, oh yeah, cats, man. get excited i started thinking dude like what if cats actually domesticated people like like don't I would bet that that toxoplasmosis the same way tricks a rat But I don't touch the litter box. and the woman was living in there by herself with 50 cats. It's a toxo. The things that like to kill shit other than humans,
1:07:54 Fucking insane. Kiowa's like a golf kind of wonderland this is like may of 2020 like someone was killed in kiowa and i was like two weeks earlier i think we go there every summer and they've got the alligator farm there it's so awesome it would but just to see it, like how weird it was. and there's like a carp infestation in Lake Erie. But yeah, the alligator thing, man.
1:10:43 Those are the big ones. Yeah. Yeah, fuck The rest of it, I don't know. They'll eat a whole deer. Why not piranhas? It's like a pit with a snake. That's like how he retrieves Is that like a drainage thing? He's got a UFC shirt on. That's twice as long almost. and then they would get loopy and come out It was like a taco. Like, they really do pop up out of people's toilets sometimes.
1:14:55 i always wear a cup when i sit down in the toilet I can imagine it. his dog was like with my pillow and i i got up and the dog wasn't there and the pillow and then the owls get sick and die. as this wise creature in the woods because you can't hear them. It was about like a man was accused Came in the house like all fucked up and fell down a flight of stairs
1:18:30 Yeah, they're, dude, Fucking massive. They're beautiful. Like this big. Yeah. Fucking hell, man. When you see one clearly, like the big ass owls one of the great horned something fucking massive you shouldn't fucking insane when I realized that birds kill other birds but it was post internet I never But it's kind of crazy the amount of species of birds that live in Nashville.
1:20:44 wetland is protected. How the fuck? well i just saw this thing that uh like every basically everybody alive between like 1940 And then he realized that the whole world is contaminated with lead. like live in a different house his wife almost like divorced him because he smelled like shit I never knew that leaded and unleaded gas meant actual lead. Okay.
1:23:44 Dude, my friend's mom bought this Victorian house, and she's told all the kids that ate paint that was always the thing like kids would make fun of kids in school dude my friend's mom bought this victorian house and she said she's told all the kids that Dude, there's just like asbestos everywhere in there. there's a lot of those chemicals they find like That's a naturally occurring thing, asbestos.
1:25:16 Or does it get in the air? and one of them I had to insulate a roof, You'd get it everywhere. That's scary like hey jerky. He's like you you guys fuck with the spescus. I They did a couple of movies, too, I think. I was like, because the 11th herb and spice is actually, Yeah, that's actually Popeye's. there's one that released them well it's like cranked our record label one time more brothers
1:28:40 this was actually the last time we played SNL. something for sales, I'm so and so's assistant, You have something that we really need. Are you comfortable with that so confused by what I'm saying on the phone do yeah um and if someone steals them from my phone is that a problem that's not a problem But I think, you know, they were saying that, you know,
1:31:59 It's not good. It just sucks. hundreds of thousands of dollars and that soon that they will be immortal and It doesn't seem to be that hard to get them either. would say is there someone here you know named as well sharon do you have a sick parent or whatever donate now even if you're broke yeah he's driving around in a porsche you know that's how you're
1:35:01 but apparently it didn't work. want to belong so badly or wonder if it's also people with lead poisoning or wonder if it's also based on what we thought other people thought we should do. working with us as a manager that if we took that money and we had a song in our in that commercial money what is what is the the thought process that happens it seems like seems like it was a thing when we started.
1:37:19 I heard it through the grapevine. moss like dancing around scantily clad and we were told once again like we'd be a sellout for and it's going to become a hit. what is the biggest driver of record sales or of streams? But you know, it's interesting to me is how many musicians are selling like they're publishing if like if we're taught There's a lot of inflation.
1:40:34 ballers they're the only people that will understand them as other super ballers and did you see any eyes wide shut type shit i definitely there definitely you know what i It wasn't as, you know, I should have freaked out a little bit more considering that it was cool. girls who were flown in there Some of these guys, they're on their one yacht, and they're trying to hide their second yacht.
1:43:01 Apple Store I really did it looked like it was an Apple store floating around. Dude, we need to show up with like a 400 foot party barge. I don't know, I'm asking. And it's beautiful and it's all run by IMAX. Helicopter pads and swimming pools. I don't know. Didn't they have, like, animal noises, too? all over from Styx when he found out It could be that.
1:45:58 just started following him on instagram i don't know what it means, but I means he likes your music Oh, Geraldo Rivero special. My dad would be like... Geraldo, we should just do here though. We should have known when this aired we should have known that we're just where the evidence was acquired, Yeah, run that time the Oliver Stone movie came out
1:48:40 Woody Harrelson's father, I think he was convicted of some violent offense. but his name was John Peel. He was one of the press guys covering it. Yeah. Yeah. I think that guy was, you know, whatever. They probably told him if you whack Ruby, we'll take care of some debt that you owe or something like that. Who knows? Or if you whack Oswald, we'll take care of some debt.
1:50:53 And he's dead a short amount of time later. know i think that's what it is they hit them they poisoned a lot of them right but people have been Really? My grandpa died from, he used to, I've heard a bunch of horror stories Really? And a bunch of people in his neighborhood got cancer, already filtered in all the heavy metals and apparently he got like some serious dosage of
1:54:29 This idea that that's the solution, relatively Like, hey, the fuck? tire company was you went to firestone high school But my dad said as a kid they would wake up that doesn't feel right you could feel you know like you could feel the thick air like straight out of like Rick and Morty or something. It was scary. and like basically like Gerardo's, It was called the Lamp Post.
1:59:10 There's that one building downtown where you just see directly through it driving around all day long looking at all this destruction Yeah, they turn around When they're out there like grilling rabbits. Because when we were kids, And this was, the newspaper won pools for prizes. That's what was cool for us because we got to exploit that in terms of musical equipment
2:02:06 we'd all like dan had this cool amp this old ampeg reverb or ampeg gemini one that was like unions were getting kind of crazy. nearly impossible so we're in nashville now ironically uh firestone got bought by bridgestone That was the work week, 36 hours. So is that the problem? that the the union workers wanted too they could ultimately say we're going to make this shit in mexico and then when you know there it was like it wasn't it was a bipartisan thing that happened it was republicans and democrats
2:05:20 Yeah, how bad is it fucking up their environment? Yeah. Like, a coach or something? Like, tweeted some, like, support for guy like a coach or something like tweeted some like support to change his master, the teacher of magic, books to appease this market that makes some shit loads of money oh yeah it's fucking weird man That's fucked. Are we fucking poisoning some part of the world
2:08:39 lot of indigo and dude I think fucking crazy to see like what the fuck was I was golfing. oh man, you'd be shocked if you knew That's what he was saying, dude. And so no one opened the crates. Oh, my God. that are fucked sideways. in the United States or whatever. the people like they would like in in portland oregon like they would people at the bar they
2:11:58 but I completely forgot about that term, Shanghai, who's patient zero dan went down first oh yeah i got it first hit me for a couple weeks damn i had a fever for like two weeks I couldn't get any doctors to help me. And the monoclonals were around. It was for some strains. I couldn't get it. What's going on with that? muscular shots. But, you know, I just don't like the idea that that can happen again.
2:15:37 Really? it feels like it was made in the lab it does it definitely I never felt anything It was my dad. Never heard of one. But everybody keeps talking about it like it's going to come around again. They acted normal, whether that's good or bad, have pre-existing conditions. But it makes sense. There's certain plants you can grow that will help extract it from the soil.
2:19:16 Rock and roll was so prevalent in Northeastern Ohio. I find those band-made films in the 70s impossible to watch. and everyone knew how to do the little different insignias When I was a kid, it was just 10 years ago, And it's just so powerful. Like a 65 Mustang and your music. Or Like a 65 Mustang and your music, Yeah. yeah only be like like a mint condition Mercury Topaz merged on next to me.
2:22:26 Right, because Mercury was owned by Ford, and they just had different names for things. with those 80s cars get the i've got an 85 cadillac seville slantback i love it so much vice right everybody wanted to be Don Johnson. Oh. that doesn't get its just deserve We're going to make one that doesn't break. The other thing's a Honda. Dude, I was shocked when you drove it.
2:25:41 So I'm like, I'm going to drive this another year. No. Because we toured so much. when we signed our first It was like a 1980 Mercedes. Had a bullet hole in the windshield. That's an NSX. had fixed headlights. It's a beautiful That's hilarious. Did you freak out while you were driving it? Something about it felt very appropriate. It was fun. the country i'd go or do you have like a sort of a a plan do you try to make your way across the
2:29:32 I mean the big thing for us is that because we both have young kids days here and there i can't go three weeks without seeing him yeah it's too long my dad went away for You have children. Like with COVID, I was really worried about the toilet paper situation. So why do you have this old-ass car? motorcycles I thought you're talking about the, yeah. What kind of motorcycles? Old knuckleheads and panheads.
2:32:04 Those are fucking cool It's so peaceful. It's like, dude, you drive a 100-year-old motorcycle, Look at the patina. Can you go back to that one 18? Look at the patina on that one? The guy who owned that played motorcycle polo with that bike. beautiful that thing is and do you ever drive these and there's pinstriping on the fronts Mike Wolf, I bought that one from Wolf.
2:35:16 A disc brake definitely stops better, but, you know. When you lose balance Yeah yeah yeah It's like a Segway. Yeah, I mean, there's completely different feels to that. been making some weird stuff to show at ces and stuff and the difference is i bet that if you Really? You think that's what it is? The style is wear clothes that it's torn apart, blown apart.
2:38:22 The dystopian future clothing where like the like kids too i'm like that was amazing the dystopian future like you know i don't know i hope the future doesn but the point is it's funny when you see someone like the dystopian future. the big head and a little tiny body that's the future we're going that way moving everything with our minds. Hardly ever.
2:41:22 you know really little kid but one day I'm watching this shit, And it turned out like they were testing I'm only familiar with They just appear at your bedside. like that could really happen to you He's like, oh, yeah, I've seen a demon once. I was like, it's happened to me. Like your mind's like awake. But um I wonder if what you know a lot of abduction stuff probably comes down to that look at that
2:44:49 Like Swedish. And that's why you have wet dreams. It doesn't quite work that way. But imagine. How is that possible? to even like get like a clear message out to anybody and when people were like early on like them all the time in the ocean oh yeah fucking crazy videos are insane dude We have all that shit. It's like Art Bell, that scary ass shit family got kidnapped you're like what the fuck is going on and george nori would come on and then
2:48:55 Yeah, it takes a whole tank to get them where they need to go. of the speed, they can go Mach 15 or something. where they have the ICBM are drones. They even recalibrated their device, apparently, to make sure that it was accurate. Signature it doesn't like show that like anything's coming out the back like a normal jet We don't have any hypersonic fucking UFO looking tic-tacs.
2:51:13 Because I always wondered, like, everything we do which is i think actually happening yeah but they don't even need satellites They're just listening to you. with Johnny Depp and Amber Heard. to by the way he's kind of a poetic guy hell yeah and he was probably uh probably lit yeah he likes He's so nice. if it's a famous person. that's crazy though they're arguing you get so crazy but they're both actors so
2:54:18 It sounds like a nightmare. Blowgate. I think I might have made that up. Dude, if they had When she was talking, when he was talking about finding her shit on the bed, like, dude, just Judy. Hell no. Yeah. When she was talking, to figure out and their stories Fucking weird, man. What is the best case scenario and clickbait tens of millions of dollars
2:56:10 Oh, yeah. pretty fucking smooth, though. Pretty accurate. That would cause their stock to raise. Everybody would watch that. Just accept her for who she is. She's crazy. That's the resolution. Yeah. Look, we know a lot of crazy women are great actors. Everybody would watch that. fellow pirates? No, no, no Maybe it's better with my buddy Stanhope Doug Stanhope and he's um he loves the guy they but they
2:58:57 partying until the wheels fall off. He said he was in the room when Jimi Hendrix first used a wah-wah pedal. Yeah. Dude, the story's just... where you realize his eyebrows were painted on? Same. Groucho was a fucking genius. Remember that? I didn't. I never saw him do that. Wow, I remember when Gilbert Godfrey used to do the old groucho impression remember that I
3:01:23 anything like that all sudden you got a movie movies man. Well, you know what? Then it got suspect. Yeah. The Three Stooges again in 1922. absolutely you know the the rhyman's like that You know where you guys are where they did the Grand Ole Opry that place is like there's you walk in that building Oh, wow. No, it's projected, I think. I saw Tom Waits there, too.
3:04:58 They have like a feel to them. When did they do this? Raised number one. Like that's a historical play there should be a few of those Dude, we used to go to the rainbow when we first started going to L.A. sucked up under the table i was like what the fuck i I was like, you're really drinking Diet Cokes. What? I feel the same way about recording studios there's so few classic studios that still exist and when you
3:08:39 We went to Stax. The guy that bought it lived in the basement. Brothers there and to preserve. They did a good job. came out of that small town it's what do you think is? Like how does something like that happen? the guys lived i guess we never went down in the basement he lived here i went there was one room that's disappear that's the updated working uh facility now like it's a super communist thing
3:12:02 has been made there but it's no i mean like earlier kind of golden age yeah What does it feel like? I mean, to be It's just amazing. and he has this concept that he promotes called morphic resonance. and different different backgrounds and different fucking styles and burned into the walls i from the dimension of the dead for a quick second or two life? Like every now and then when someone dies, they leave like behind an echo and that
3:15:38 about almost being abducted when you were a kid well that's totally possible i was driving Other people had seen this thing. Anything that's supernatural. No, it was running on the log. And we played it the first time. It all comes from people laying down. And that people, another planet and you were trying to pay attention from your own planet, The whole thing is insane
3:19:35 can get real comfortable like thinking it's going to be fine nothing's going to happen By who? I don't know like that's what I'm saying I mean Oh, yeah. in Akron it's one it's one of those things where it's one of those memories it's just like all You know stick shift, and I put it into neutral you know when drones were invented i bet they And these things are so fucking terrifying.
3:23:25 dollars spent on military and 60% of it or something It's like we've created our own inferno of cash to keep the economy where it is. The deep fake stuff? Forever. Whoa. We'll be synced up together. And I'm not kidding. Oh, my God. Like maybe if it was like really well lit and in high resolution, It's terrifying. I think they'll have a reasonable facsimile of a human being in about 30 or 40 years.
3:27:02 though like what should they do should they not do AI at all does not compute where we're shutting the power off on it I start thinking about it. propaganda on social media, yesterday was Mother's Day and I was just like, man, Some sort of algorithm is compelling people to... thing the US has ever done he's like Afghanistan worthwhile but the Iraq thing was very bizarre
3:29:36 But if you wanna become the policeman for the world, anything about anything but like there's always another side to it there's always something ridiculous um and infuriating and i got into so many arguments about it because like i listened People just get on board and don't understand they just get it out there it gets out there and all these people go God and
3:32:12 I said that, too. It's very weird. if you snitch on your neighbors a real terrifying one, humanity smallpox killed 90% of the Native Americans I mean if one of those Yeah, I'm curious to see what the scene's like. Tom DeLonge said to me, I just remembered. Like, you could say that literally any other time in my life to me what if he's right what if he's right? What if he's right? He was convincing to the point where I was on stage
3:35:43 that they could just capture you at any time and take you and no one would know and everyone's paralyzed and everyone, you know, everyone's memory gets erased. Yeah, they all lived there's the grays men in black. There's the men in black as like They're getting us ready. I mean, I love the idea that there's thousands and thousands. Yeah. This is what happened.
3:37:47 So he takes his friend to this mountain they film it they get arrested because you're not supposed to be out there and then he Yeah, I mean, I believe, that i want to i want to think that it that something way smarter is watching us the whole time that runs on water and it's just like on display there was a guy who invented a works? Oh, that part of it.
3:39:50 After more than 20 years of research and tinkering, then grabbed his neck and bolted out the door, dropped to his knees, and vomited violently. It could easily be this is all bullshit. And I had a great fucking time with you guys, as always. What do you got Thank you