Joe Rogan Experience #1816 — Gad Saad Transcript

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0:00 the Joe Rogan experience And so I was just saying, if you really are saying that you want to get healthy and you On size, waist, 33. I mean, just to give you a sense so that we could put it into metrics, when I was overweight, She demands a lot of me. It could be walking outside. minus 20 in Montreal. I'm walking outside until I reach that. But I was always quite physically

2:38 She's got this MyFitnessPal, plus, so the third thing is I weigh myself once a week I removed the all or nothing mindset. Am I right? was probably close to 300 pounds. I've gone for my yearly physical and I got on the scale and I was 256, which is the average And so I get on, I'm now 10 pounds less, 20 pounds. You don't have to be so punishing. You got to get better the same way you got sick.

6:16 You're not going to go back. No, no, no, not putting on. I do martial arts. Whenever I do that, I always feel like shit. But you do mainly the protein stuff, right? Yes. Mainly I eat as much as I want. I eat large amounts of food. But you do mainly the protein stuff, right? So breakfast I may have one or two boiled eggs. Lunch might be my wife and I go to the Peruvian

8:28 70, 80 calories, I haven't reached it. That's pretty thin. So what kind of window? Yeah, I do 16. This is me. But I think discipline is a very important thing for a person. with your body, of his second book Show up when you're supposed to show up. When you try to write a book, look, I do two types of authoring. And so one of the things that I tell people when they write to me and say,

12:26 And he describes the muse as like a thing that will show up when you show up, than the process of creation, right? They tend to focus on the peer-reviewed, I will not sell it on eBay. I covered it. It really is because they do and they're they're actually a contagion like they spread throughout communities and people accept them as That's true. We are the only time.

15:59 But, you know, so earlier you asked me about how did I lose all the weight. But really, from an ego-defensive perspective, You're so special. is not a man that you want to be with. uh more on the rational side of the whole covet thing. You know, more nuanced, more tempered. The Ministry of Truth? What is the actual anti-vaccine misinformation? Most recently, she tweeted that the urine and feces of people who had received the jab

18:51 uploads. but you can't say that they're separating the sewage. And so now women, there's anything that's like more rat the bbc is very sketchy lately especially when it comes to But I don't know what it was. And it is reality. And men insult each other in sort of a joking way to try to get a one-up socially over each other in front and being an accomplished person.

22:21 All other things equal. body shape and you know the way the structure of the face the geometry of the face it's She's genetically gifted, and she's got an amazing face structure. She's not dolled up. Yeah. woman. Thank you. Uh, I know it's weird that you would pick this guy, but that's maybe my biggest fun but when you see that happen you just go this is not going to end well like there's no one's

25:35 First of all, you've got to think that the reason why someone wants to do that in the first place, Personality to and it's not on objective metrics, right? It's not there. There isn't a clear ABC that would result in me being picked It's the vagaries of the casting director That's a function of the casting it is to not be around that kind of a community because it shapes everything

28:00 Yeah, that are that are not in any way like what you would expect from like a movie star. I ran into him in Lanai on the beach, just randomly ran into him. I didn't know other people that are really cool i met robert pattinson recently the batman the new batman guy He stars in a bunch of movies. He played a bad cop in recent Guy Ritchie movie. What was the recent movie? He was great. He played a bad cop in the Guy Ritchie movie.

30:16 And then throughout his career, you know, as I got older and as he progressed in his career, Kind of like maybe one of the last old school movie stars that is still around, right? never imagine could produce this kind of soul if you're going to be stereotypical he's now into his I was meeting some people from UT Austin I'd have to give up my tenure.

32:59 with security and it's wonderful in terms of the benefits you know guaranteed money that can the other is anything else. Much of the anything else this past year was the parasitic mind. The I'm telling you my story growing up in Lebanon, what happened to us. The highest rate for the federal government is 33. It's part of the institutionalized personal history, I can't imagine a higher form of existential rape. I mean, let me just

37:12 And, you know, it used to be that Canada was high, it seems like it's more accessible to people We had a conversation a few years ago where you were sort of more positive about him. Yeah. You know about it. I was at a speaking engagement. masked because we had a difficult time letting it go. Now, I don't see anybody masked here almost, it's not dangerous. If you really want the settled science, you're going to encourage

41:12 even though we now have an overwhelming evidence. I mean, short of gravity, there's no theory that That's what it means to be true. I may not invite them on my show because I think that it is fruitless, pointless for us to debate what is right. And yet I support the right of those. and kill every Jew that's at that synagogue. So short of incitement to violence, short of

44:15 you have a bunch of people that believe the earth is flat, you know, who are we protecting them. You know when they're going to pass by. while everything is round like a ball, doesn't make any sense, does it? Which is pure insanity. So through their own fear of this process of truth, that their truth wasn't going to be convincing enough, Maybe. to lie? Well, it depends if the consequences of that lie protect someone's feelings. So for

48:31 remains a friend of yours, less so of mine for reasons that are unrelated to me, who technically not be a gang our collective understanding of what's true and what's not true. And when you violate that, and as soon as you make these decisions based on and then I can go into their little hive mind a pregnant man emoji on my iPhone just five years ago,

51:28 I don't believe so, no. can regularly count on. That's the whole premise of science. There are natural laws that we're 2002, 20 years ago. This is going to speak about your emoji with the pregnant man. So it's myself, About halfway through the evening, I turned to the lady in question and I said, biological realm, that's how you keep us barefoot and pregnant. So once I-

54:46 reality. So there she deconstructed. She said, what do you mean by East and West? And what do No, they're not. And I wonder, by the way, And now she's in her 40s. So it would have been Harper, the last prime minister who was conservative. Well, we have a joke. It's staggering, right? it's, well, what is hot and what is cold? You deny those labels? Like, do you, you know, if you ask

58:07 called social justice mathematics. It's not because I'm a prophet. Not that I could think off the top of my head, but, for example, I have another series of satirical clips where I do the hiding Will I be able to still go safely on campus now that he's been elected? morning after a one hour walk. The barista that was serving her looked like a transgender person.

1:01:31 Halen? Exactly. Exactly. You can probably go find all the tweets. They're still up there. but she didn't know. So she don't want to presume that this female presenting person was a her, But what I did is I released a satirical under the desk clip where I said that all of the stuff that I faced in the Lebanese civil war from Islamic extremists is nothing as scary as the pronoun Taliban.

1:03:24 It's a pressure valve release for me yeah it's i i always do these things with a hot topic. I mean, there's somewhere along the line it became like a major fixation for culture. That's insane. Where would you put it in the continuum of wokeness compared to say the Mecca of Portland, Right. Like it was the weirdest conversation Or they come up with some other gender.

1:07:35 Look, both you and I, I think, By that standard, both you and I are strong equity feminists. No, I never cede one millimeter of truth for any goal. I have to be deontological in the defense They have to be physically fit. They have to have bravery. So imagine if we were to choose our professors in a all of these parasitic ideas I've met some folks that are associated

1:10:38 And based on an objective analysis of truth. It's just a fact. I've heard about that. a man gets pregnant, the baby must come out of his penis. someone's feeling. Don't attack their personhood. Celebrate their personhood. So again, we go back I remember one time on a previous show, and I actually took that quote in this book, It's like there's a lot of people that

1:13:38 of your heart. which has been referred to as sort of the golden era of social psychology, And then I'm going to see how you solve a math problem based on this glowing feedback. So did he now tell me that I'm not a newborn pigeon because he's just trying to assuage my offended. So now when I go through these ethical review processes, that's probably the thing that

1:17:26 offensive reactions. my latest batch of students strike me as being less woke than previous generations, as if now the out of nowhere, you know, was a journalist who became the kind of central repository of all things anti-critical race ignite the silent majority into speaking, as you know, the blue haired Taliban are a minority. Well, we see that.

1:20:16 that are trying to position themselves Let opposing sides discuss things. Maybe you're going to convince the audience of things. and I found it fascinating because I got a chance to see two different perspectives, Now, today you can't have that. And the crowd let it all play out. in large part popular other than your infinite charisma and so on, is because of, I'm undoubtedly

1:23:42 I think it would come out eventually. But you know what's interesting to me is that when I have progressive people on the podcast, I get no pushback at all. It does not matter. different metrics that have been studied relating to well-being and happiness, and I infuse it with Right. So I'm going to add to what you just said. The conservative at the root of the

1:26:04 Taliban wants to burn it down. It's interesting. Billions of dollars. structures to make sure that these wetlands are preserved for migrating birds and all these Right. That's happened to quite a few friends that I have that are liberal but that do hunt. And some disciplines could be 120 to 0, the ratio. If you get 1.2 to 1, that means the drug is effective.

1:29:59 scientific method or less. So oftentimes people, again, to go to an early point, people think that I am the pitman robertson act do we did you google that like what the pretend it's 10 for handguns And by the way, someone told me that Michael Savage uses it. Republicans would probably not and they were giving other, but I found a study that was looking at

1:33:02 I thought that was fascinating. no room for funny business and shenanigans and mandates when it comes to fixing your knee. conservative people right it's fucking hard man like there's no equity in in in hunting like you for the rest of the tribe. it's okay to be the body positivity. want to see in themselves right like i don't like liars because i'd never want to see myself alone

1:36:07 But I have a slow thyroid. Yeah. Wow. I might have been 10. I'm tired all the time and I exercise I still fucking do it You know, especially like when you do it Like that's, you did it. exercise rigorous hardcore exercise is Clinically proven to be better than SSRIs probably for the first time ever publicly, I was getting in 2017, a lot of death threats that required for me to have security and so on.

1:40:12 who you are when i saw the name that i was right and then he kind of told me you know maybe you endorphins. I mean, it's all science. They know what happens to the body when you exercise. Especially if you're overweight, I would encourage you to just walk. right? And so as I was losing weight, but I had never gone to see a physician for several years,

1:42:47 Yeah. around all that extra tissue is just it's the worst and you know it's like it's not my disdain And sometimes they don't want to hear it. If he didn't care, he wouldn't have said that stuff. You sent me one. It's very hard to change your lifestyle. Once you have momentum, it's not that hard. but no one makes me laugh like that guy. They're constantly going at it.

1:46:34 I saw you on a documentary where I think you were – it was a documentary about stand-up. I was fascinated by it because I think what was being discussed is the creative process in generating material. I've done a few of them and I haven't done one in a while, but everyone does it differently. that person will go on stage live But my point was that his specific

1:48:59 give it a couple spaces and right below it i'll readdress the subject try to do it from new eyes so if if you So I'm trying to let my mind find the things that are good, right? Yeah, I write basically every day. I do something every day, every day. I mean, I'll take a day off, but I feel like if I don't and this short dress, and she was like looking at this like crazy image of this woman.

1:50:58 That made it onto a comedy special. Friday night I did two sets in Phoenix into it. It's got to be good a year from now, right? Where it's like, if you had to do a joke So there's something called two-factor theory in psychology of persuasion. in what's called an inverted U shape, okay? or are you entering as the deliverer of the message That's what's going on.

1:54:41 the best time that's the best time for the audience it's the best time for the funny comes up, it's just like, that's fine. But my job is to explain what's happening So they complement each other. And MMA, it's easy with a caveat. I've never not. With no, I'm not into training, it's not a part of my life, very, very fortunate, There's not a moment about it, they know I'm 100% genuine.

1:58:43 It's like you're literally putting your health on the line. love that because I am someone who is authentic to a fault. And so I love the idea that if you people are going to, I mean, I'm on this show. because I am very modulated as to what I know and what I don't know. The number one thing that makes me stressed about coming on the show is, And you are obviously honest to a fault

2:01:21 That's so valuable. about as big of an academic mecca as you can get, Surely you would think that popularizing your ideas to millions of people might be worthwhile in addition to publishing a peer-reviewed journal. What year did you first come on? I enjoy it. To build a fucking crazy podcast empire. And as long as I can do what I like to do, I just do what I like to do.

2:04:11 uh there's not a managerial department or a you know there's no executives there's no one I'll just quit. None have been as prolific as the ancient Greeks. Sure. But then many years later, unbelievable because he was so wise and his decisions for what he would that were so wise thousands and thousands of years ago and that their words are applicable today.

2:07:58 He doesn't know what a podcast is, developed an understanding of human beings and of human nature. And you have deciphered from this Wow. other countries and you can find the same remnants in the pottery in these Because of the residue, now they now have scientific evidence. If I stop enjoying it, I won't do it. going to be spent either with your family or at your job. And if either or both of those impart

2:12:29 I've never met her. Yeah. a giver. You have to be someone who enjoys being around you. So when you're on a date with that But that's just fucking bullshit. You're never going to attract someone who is desirable, I was going to say exactly that as a test. So, you know, I told you I always go for long walks with my wife to get to the cafe in the morning.

2:15:40 He goes, every single day I see you walking on this thing, you're arm in arm with your wife, on most days that I exist. The second thing, if I'm going to get more scientific, it turns out that for long-term you want assortative mating, my friend Doug Stanhope he's a sweetheart of him, and he's very good friends with one of my very good friends, my friend Doug Stanhope.

2:17:48 Well, she's interesting, like, if I was a psychologist Like, she's fucking uncut. if someone treats the waiter or waitress badly. You had to use a key. By the way, one of my favorite movies of all time. You want people that care. That's silly. It really is because it feels good. like that's one of the secrets to my happiness. had a lot of fun together and we it's we have kindness and generosity but also we hold each

2:20:28 you're not a pretender, a user, someone who's being instrumental in your- things about being a liar or being someone who is dishonest or is acting Like if she was an honest person, just the way she's talking and acting like the fake seeing the inauthenticity versus not seeing it? Yeah, I think she has. What about Mark Garagos? Yeah. Okay. I reach out to Mark.

2:23:29 The guy who killed his wife? Is that in Colorado? Well, I think Garagos represented him or maybe during the appeal process. or do you have to go under the... So I just kind of put my hand and I go, la, la, la. Don't ever say it. By the way, her high school, I played soccer for my high school against her high school when she was at that school in Montreal.

2:25:40 She probably—well, I didn't play against her. Oh, it's the same thing. really. Not only do they not think it. Cutler? What's his name? That looks like a mob attorney. And I've included him in my latest book because I'm talking again about the recipe for the good life. And what amazed me about this guy is how non-filled with anger and hatred and a sense of retribution he had.

2:28:30 than I am Right. That's amazing. Well, it's his influence. prosecute him. Even though we're in court right now, I want to say that I'm on his side. No one does that. Ego and careerism over truth. So on the judicial point, are you for or against the death penalty? horrible things I'm all for removing dangerous people that are detrimental to society the problem

2:31:38 That's impossible. There's a lot of cases of those where people were fucking monsters. It has to be someone. you know, they're just, they get fucked and then they wind up getting executed and the What percentage of people who are executed turn up to actually be innocent? That's a lot. Nailed it. It says people on death row that have been convicted to the death penalty.

2:34:51 And I think the example that you gave with the children is that's where I would be. that number is an actual stat, uh kane's in jail with no bail no possibility of bail and he's being tried for murder or tried for attempted murder excuse me and um you know So I've had not heated exchanges with my wife, but I always come with the following approach in parenting.

2:37:33 There was never sleepaway camp. So I can't understand, not that I'm blaming this gentleman It's just like it's not. Liars, like real good liars. developed the theory of the evolution of self-deception. Why is it that we are so good at they need to come up with one. I mean, that's the only way we're ever going to really know. And until then, Sure. Yeah.

2:41:39 because I wouldn't have been able to create the demarcation between listening to what was done I mean, I have many friends that are either former or current police officers, And imagine that we now make them turn out to be diabolical And then you get L.A., where you get rampant, out-of-control crime, No one does anything about it. find a way to help

2:44:32 and that's all they've ever known. harder criminal. You get taught how to do crimes better and you get to talk to people about how different things that people can do. A lot of people that have done psilocybin, been John Hopkins studies have shown tremendous benefits in quitting detrimental behavior, whether it's cigarettes or things like that, gambling, drug addiction.

2:46:12 wise while still protecting everyone else from that person's impulses and urges especially if I'm saying it while women are pregnant that if that woman is exposed to violence that their higher Look, I grew up in the most violent environment possible. bifurcation in the road and you can go right or you can go left. If you make the wrong choice, They got a lot of books from guests that come on your show.

2:49:08 He's the black face for white supremacy. There you go. So basically just, you know, the other thing that I think in terms of parenting that is fantastic is if you treat your children with the dignity that they are deserving of. And I think that could hopefully go a long way towards solving some of this criminality, maybe. It's like- Yeah. No, that's what's even more crazy.

2:51:33 His name is Joe Rogan, too. Probably wouldn't have been me. I had that, but I also had no one's coming to help me. And yesterday I was asked, I was speaking at UT Austin, I was asked by a young man, It's like a weird way to grow up. And then it was months later. I was like, what happened to a few weeks? And then it was like They do know that. Like what are we playing games?

2:55:21 I met him recently too. I think he's legit. There's people that don't agree with some of the things that he says, I don't like that at all. There are groomers. Like I saw someone as an argument, someone who I think is an intelligent person say that There you go. educator? I'm keeping a tally of the amount of hate mail that you're going to be getting well

2:58:14 Well, I think it's important and I think everyone should know it. Can you imagine if those fucking idiots My point is imagine if you have a gay child and you have a fucking teacher You should be really good at what you do if you want to talk to a fucking seven-year-old especially if you're a fucking history teacher and the typical answer that If I can't target your child to sell them chewing gum,

3:01:29 and these kids are eight, but what I do know is your cerebral cortex Why do you think they get children to wear those vests? about Dave Rubin, and there's one thing that I noticed recently that was kind of very disturbing. um and then i was watching all of these fucking vicious right-wing ideologically coming at you. And he just wants to be a loving father, just wants to be a loving father with his

3:05:03 be parasitized. Yeah, it's not. There's plenty of If you ask me about gay rights and transgender rights, you'd think that I am a Portland, Oregon inhabitant. Look, I'm very much, a social safety net. So I'm very progressive in that, but I value hard work and discipline more Like a friend of mine who's an employer, she employs people. No, you have a high level of anxiety today.

3:07:41 You need to be a bit more animated, Joe. more time on the exam, right? Well, I used to never have any of these filings, and now in any given semester, I may have quite a large percentage. of the way your mind interfaces with the world and it just creates more and more incentive for Because there's been plenty of people out there that have had those patterns that turn their life around.

3:10:00 to be a good person. And Aristotle has already said all those things that you just said. How about that? The Parasitic Mind's available now. be so much better than some fucking actor reading your bullshit with the next book will you read it go. Come on. Delete that is available. The Sad Truth on podcast YouTube it's on everything beautiful always a pleasure