Joe Rogan Experience #1819 — Cameron Hanes Transcript

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0:00 the joe rogan experience train by day joe rogan podcast by night all day It's from a real publisher. Manliest photo with a cheek cut and the blood trickling down your face. When you had that, when the blood was trickling down your face, were you like, ooh, get some pictures? When you're fighting through alders, they're slapping you in the face and things like that.

1:39 Come on, Ben. Did you, like, look at it in a selfie to find the blood? um roy was your good friend who got you into bow hunting who died shortly afterwards he fell terrain and it's snowy and cliff. Sometimes, sometimes where Roy fell, it was dry at that And he was guiding this woman, and she killed a sheep, ever been while like climbing around on something.

4:36 It's just different. That was the thing, is him trying to make his way back. What the fuck? I was reading about this guy who died in front of his family recently on a vacation. Goddamn psychopath. Mm-hmm. He's so crazy. He's always like sending me like videos of him skydiving. Don't you want to try this? Oh, just amazing. Right. why do you like hunting?

7:05 know, now that I saw one, like within 30 yards, now I've just got like a totally different feeling I mean, you know what they're capable of because to them, that's all they do. do our own thing, just looking for adventure. Mostly neither one of us wanted at that time, It's a long night. Like a car. It's kind of counterintuitive, right? And if you're successful, you get an animal.

10:46 right back that those packages of meat are capture this memory of this experience, like nothing else There's a lot of that talk. It's a more potent living creature. Right. In eastern Oregon, it's bigger, more wild country. the wilderness so i would say it was such as more of a challenge because those elk back there could So I'm like, well, if they're more wild back here and I'm eating them, maybe I'm going to be stronger, faster.

14:43 from other predators an animal that has to live that hardscrabble life in the wilderness, it's harder to get and more rewarding when you get it. Healthy folks. I remember I put up one thing about a vegan. But I put up something about Canelo. And then all of a sudden I'm the bad guy. first time. middleweight and that's where he fought Gurnard I think he fought Triple G

17:16 Yeah, okay. There's a lot of, you know, look, if you want to eat only vegan and you want to do it for MD, Paul Saladino, guys who are proselytizing to eat carnivorously. This is just from regular Performing or thriving is a whole nother thing. I won the state championship at 140 pounds. and you make sure you balance your macros and have someone. But when I went, when I started

20:18 six two six three and he was in the same way class as me when he was younger was And I got way better as soon as I stopped doing that. take different approaches they talk smack get fights you know there's a whole different ways switch it back to kilograms so it fucks up the whole calibration oh I see and so he would weigh Like they have shifts where no one can fuck with the scale.

22:35 that was still – still hadn't got that figured out. We've had a good time there. They've had some good events there, but they just made a mistake. I'm a Justin Gaethje fan. And he's got to overcome all this and still, then he gets rocked. He doesn't fight to try to outpoint you. at you. Guns blazing. It's like when you wound an animal, any other arrow in it is go.

25:06 a like world-class Brazilian jiu-jitsu tournament because I think he would do Smooth. of times the thing about chandler is like you got to take him out he's not going to quit no he's I mentioned Chandler in the book because we've trained together. when i was standing next to him when i was was interviewing him after the fight, I'm like, And then once he, like, fully fuels himself, like, over the next couple of days after the fight.

27:43 Oh, my God. Well, he does that the way he does everything the way trains the way he fights so prepared. He's just an animal Yeah, it's also like full tilt. Yeah, he's very smart. Very smart. Look at that. How the fuck is that guy 155 pounds? And he's getting kind of emotional. Generally speaking for boxers, that's an old age. Chandler is a berserker.

30:33 And so they felt like there was that channel up the middle, right? I mean, it's been broken bones, but that was a scary one. you're questioning it and then you have to overrule those questions right you that's the like your heroes get tuned up and smashed. Kamsat? He did. When you stand next to him, you're like, how the fuck could he ever have made 155?

33:01 Yeah. They just are very good aggressively. He fought just fucking with all of his soul. and he had that same type of, not even a man, like more of a machine. Yeah. I mean, of course the guy's confident. I was like, damn, I love that line. And he was scheduled to fight Luke Rockhold at one point at 185. Yeah, yeah. You call Gilbert up. You've got course Gilbert Burns will fight the devil. Yeah, yeah.

35:59 And that was an amazing fight for both guys. Write down what I think you know like little shots landed and stuff like that to really get up he's one of the greatest of all time in any weight class yeah in any weight You know what I mean? Wow, he changed his mind. He said, fight Colby. I mean, he wasn't prepared for the punch. Oh, Olivera and Justin.

39:46 But he got his tooth broken. Yeah. Yeah. You said on site. other, whatever. Mentally worked up. Yeah and completely overwhelmed it works on buzzer, got rocked, put on a hell of a fight. It was a very good fight. Yeah, it was a great fight. Very, very good fight in the second fight, made it to the final buzzer, got rocked, like put on a hell of a fight.

42:17 It's the most competitive fights I've ever seen Usman in. realm. And then did you see Usman at the Canelo will fight him. Just keep him on salads. Keep. I know. He wants that big, big money. And maybe Canelo will fight him if the ball fight. I wonder if it's his diet. thrive and they don't have any problem sometimes he eats meat still. from one day to the next.

44:05 Lockhart or one of those guys that is not how they would tell you to eat they And just the fact that he went all the way up to 75, fought Bivol, went to the decision, He's one of the greatest of all time, which is why he's willing to take that chance and They should hydration test you every day. Yeah, well, that's what I was saying is like his approach where he'll eat, you know, greens

45:44 Yes. From buying- Well, I offered to get him some elk, but I thanking me for turning him on to Wild Game. Really? Yes. He's been getting Wild Game? Yes. From... He thanked me during the last podcast, Yes. Dude, in his prime, he was like no one else. I watched it the other day. Yeah, I watched that fight too. It was bobbing and weaving and inside on you.

47:20 I know. But then you also wanted it like some devastating knockout in the first round. Yeah, it's like so how can you have both? They're going to play it back 30 times in a row. And diet is not, it's not a concern in terms of like making a specific weight. He probably would have been better which is so scary. Yeah,, which is so scary. He was like a perfect storm of a young kid who was raised in a horrible environment,

49:45 At a very high level in order to The other stuff that he was into like he's into like I mean, I think he took that with him in the ring in some ways. For sure. Yeah. like I talked with BJ Penn about that when he was on the podcast. Mm-hmm. Most people can't do that for very long your body breaks and people are like, well, that won't be competitive.

52:43 that can be that good at anything, good as he is at mma i'm not saying he's at canel's level boxing i'm But boxing. 6'9". so he's going to give up all his belts. Look at him. 6'5", 6'6"? He does look bigger. Well, he's a terrifying man. That's right, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Super athletic, very quick for a heavyweight. the thing about him Me too. I wonder why.

57:30 I wonder what that is. I don't know if that was real. I think they do it. He tried to drink beer out of my shoe He's knocked out more guys than anyone I just looked So, if they're smart, he he wants to box i think doesn't he want to let that his contract run out and box or what well the In Africa. What if they both get malaria? It would be insane. It's not just that.

1:00:57 Cape Town. Yeah. Yeah. imagine going through that you know every day what his what he thought about or what what the podcast with him, I was like, I don't want to be closer to him. I'm scared. But that's when he was Right. those pads you could see him like recreating it in his mind like thinking about like what it was like when he was Not a good combination.

1:04:24 I know. Imagine. God. If Tyson wanted to, he would have got scary as hell to have Tyson leaning over his seat, punching you. I know. You almost saw it. some crazy cannabis event. I remember I read that. when you do these races, or when you prepare for mountain hunting. now you have to say no an hour from now you have to say no and keep saying no over and over again

1:06:37 can do it, but it takes that, like what you said, that enduring every day. And there's going to be There's a, I mean, how much, well you have a mindset it's like you're a very even guy like you're even keeled i don't think i've ever seen you yell you know i've known you for eight years don't talk to my kids times where I've been so disappointed and I got my hopes so far up. Remember my first book,

1:09:39 And then they said, oh, no, no, no. And so from lessons like that, the sponsors would tell me, oh, we're going to take you to Africa. and in the middle I'm just gonna have to keep working. reach incredible levels of success but it's it's through this constant Just to give the regular guy hope is that something because you do have a lot of fans and you have a lot of

1:12:04 the internet, but the positives, in my opinion, greatly outweigh the negatives. And one of the real positives is just the overall mountain of inspiration that's available to people right now. still, like I said, I still have the nine to five job, but that's part of the reason why they like And this is my life. And then things happen. And then all of a sudden you start,

1:14:04 That's more than 20 miles. in this attitude, one person believing in you, one person doubting you, maybe that gives you fuel. Yeah, everybody can. I was friends with Roy Roth, who was still the toughest man I've ever met. there's no, the bow rack. Would I, who would I have That's weird, right? motivation is that I enjoy doing it. And then I also know that a lot of people respond to it

1:17:55 is expressed through so many different mediums. just through your own personal effort, just through hard work and being an example. and so i would be my attitude was well i need to win and there's no if this guy's winning he's taking from me you know and so you were the one who kind of pulled the curtains back on that and It's a famine mentality, and it's bad for everybody.

1:19:56 Yeah. I where I grew up is a 1a or we were 2a when I was there but a small school And that's where the whole hater thing They feel bad because they haven't reached them feel uncomfortable and then they just don't want to listen to you anymore but it doesn't stop Right, that's what it is. Everyone knows but you even your fucking wife knows You'll your dumbass will take a fight with someone who'll fuck you up and you'll think you're going to win. Right. And

1:23:19 wrong way if they looked at it the right way they would look at it like Mike So he had one of those old like, Yes. You go, God, I want to be nice like that guy. I wish I was nice like that guy. And then you learn people I look up to. No, you have to have you switch that mindset to gratitude and and then you see everything differently. hey man, I just want to tell you, I saw a video that you put out there and it really moved me

1:27:04 that wants to be jealous, that inner, i feel i feel like i figured out what was holding me back was bullshit like if i looked at someone So it wasn't a life coach, it was a self-realization. Like this guy on my arm, Miyamoto Musashi. met but i that that means something to me too because that that also you said it during a fight bull. I mean, what I was making $7 an hour and now I'm making 18. What bullshit are you talking

1:30:34 all these wave of, sometimes I'll think about my dad and get kind of sad or think about Roy and, Yeah. And it's like, God dang, what is going on? And when you're generous and when you're kind and when you're complimentary and when you're appreciative and you're grateful, that's love. I mean I thought I had to be mean in order to be successful because you're trying to hurt someone you're you're in a sport

1:33:01 with that i don't even agree with what i said like I said it and it was like I'm talking but if someone said yeah but this I would have went It's a big part of it. People make mistakes. all they want to elevate that yeah I mean one thing you I you I picked up And it's like, no, you, it's okay to say you don't know. you know the feedback or the And that sort of mentality, that's one of the beautiful things about what Jocko does

1:36:51 I know there's so much going on and I mean I'm a different person fucking book like cam haynes and it'll be awesome it's just thank you that's what that's what we all being as successful as I am now when I was a child, but I still don't think I made it. I don't Why do you keep chasing new things? I don't think anybody who doesn't have challenges in their life is happy.

1:39:18 And that's just how it goes. He goes, you're going to get bored. Yeah. It needs stress. It was like an hour and a half later. So the hardest thing that I do I want it to be some shit that I make myself do right that way the other things This is nothing. said you lifted today um that's what i was doing when you came and picked me up today yeah it's I get it.

1:43:45 and one of the things that he recommended was to get a hard labor job. We have to lift heavy shit all day and then go to the gym We can do a lot more or a lot closer or challenge ourselves and get to a higher level for sure than just bare minimum. I'm just going to put a little workout in. but i see that how genetics can not genetics i, I don't know, your body can change.

1:46:06 They found that these longbows that these and it's like whether or not your arrow can pierce armor, We're superhuman. it was a myth, it was an exaggeration. Modern bow hunters actually debate these findings because they think it's unrealistic. That's putting it mildly. we went on a 20 mile run and he's grind i mean running hard hard with no meniscus no heartless just thrashed

1:49:42 You don't want to get yourself to a position where all your ligaments blow apart and your shoulders fall off. cure doesn't that cure that cure is exercise and you got to take that cure Yeah. I don't know. That was my movie, man. The badass. Madonna's up there dancing. Odd. I thought that's how she was in real life. Let me hear what's going on here.

1:52:33 Listen, she's hanging next to a dude His music, he does his remixes with music. Give me some. When I move your moves, like that And meanwhile, he's still selling out stadiums. I know. I mean, if you had to wear a mask, If you went into a restaurant before, It's consistent. Let me guess. Yeah. He's like, hey, how many fucking fake followers do you guys have?

1:54:50 God, it'd be like 50%, 60%. the whatever porn girls or whoever they are. the water splash on the eggplant. the wall yeah and they were running programs on each cell phone it's they would call it a bot farm accepted it, I have gained 800,000 followers now. Really? Yeah. And it's like 100,000 in like the Also, how narrow do you want the content to be?

1:57:29 Are they sitting back there going, yeah, this guy, I mean, we don't like what he says. You don't have an agenda. I know. One thing I could guess would be I've made posts that it tells me that. It said it? there's like too much text here. What are you uploading through? Right. They get rid of it? It gets rid of the bots. It gets rid of the bots. It gets rid of the bots.

1:59:42 It gets rid of the bots. And it'll take five days. They're just sort of like letting it happen. Like how much can you spend? But if I put that up on Instagram with a photograph and I said that, I think I'm Siegfried there. Because that's such an engagement. how much money do you have to spend is that true like say if i wanted to do an ad for endure with

2:01:55 Let's test it out. And then you could spend a million bucks. So if you want to promote a movie you know that's how you end up The bot stuff adds into it. That's very valuable. I know people that got like two hundred fifty thousand fault why people, they really connect with your content It's not a log. time. Right. It's same with hunting. It's like hunting is the same way. So it's really hard to,

2:05:05 where I can go on some great hunts, the best, actually the best elk hunts in the world. Yeah. Go make your money and go do it. killed four bulls in a year with a rifle yeah with anything I think you could do it with a I was training hard. It's different. and those bulls were going crazy down here and you almost had a shot at a bull and then we kind

2:07:50 hunted together um we were um at this uh this ranch and uh you said i'm gonna go check to see where that bull might be. Remember, and I ran around that, that whole Canyon to try to get You're getting in that kind of shape because it's valuable. from mountain lions and wolves. you might not like me personally. And there's very few people that get to that undeniable place. And if you really want to have

2:11:00 And he said when they'd got to the club, Kobe would go to the gym. their name they don't have to say their first name you know michael kobe um floyd and it's like if that you're not going to be able to do what normal people do right so you got to get rid of that I mean, if you're 60 years old and you're listening to this and you're 350 pounds, your goal should not be to be the next Michael Jordan.

2:12:57 And the video was this guy being really fat, jordan but what could their life be and, then not only could what their life be, Yes. That's the whole point. It helps everybody. It's possible for, I was looking at this old lady online the other day, and she was a 65 And now all of a sudden, she's strong. These episodes that we talk about, these things we go through in this training we do, it does carry over to everyday life and how confident you are in other dealings, maybe in business or maybe interaction, wherever.

2:14:58 But this effect can impact all these other relationships. you know there's a lot of toxicity but it's really just like what you gravitate towards yeah the squeeze. I'm not interested I'm gonna keep moving. I think there's more fuel and more inspiration for success and for happiness But my algorithm is filled with a lot of cool shit. Yeah. Cam got me the new Keep Hammering Bow.

2:17:26 Yeah. What is that bow? I mean, your bow's a little longer for me, but it still fits perfect in that shot right there. You can see your release, holding that release, and it's going back straight. of that could be learned through archery and one of the things about archery But it takes your brain and it does something to it. And you can overwhelm yourself.

2:20:14 with training and everything in your life, it's went hand in hand with archery because you've It's a dope pattern, though. Yeah. When can I buy this? Everything. And Echo's so nice, but Yeah, that's how jacked he is. But, yeah, we're involved in this origin thing and it's like i brought this up to to jocko what america and if it feels it reminds me of that industry being here in this country Yeah, it's so it's such an honor to be involved in it

2:23:44 on another fucking country that's across the ocean when you might have not even be able to get That's, you know, I guess they do a good job. where you're surrounded by nets to keep you from jumping off the fucking roof. and they're paid well and they have benefits, and a living wage to american workers it's like that's that's what we want it's extremely valuable

2:26:21 it's it's a the contrast between what it used to be it used to be one of the richest cities in the world to what it is now where you see? a lot of people that have a lot of pride in Detroit. It's like whether or not you're contributing to the destruction of a city and the economy Nobody's looking at the big picture. have a, like our goal isn't, I don't know about making money.

2:28:19 That's my worry. So we want to provide. Why are you into hacking off sleeves? But sometimes you hack those off, too. Bert's doing it. You should start taking your shirt off. Wow, that's a good way to get attention. The shorts are a little short No those shorts Why did I think it was Rocky Look at those abs, though. Shredded. Yeah, Prince was I never gave up on the fanny pack.

2:30:59 Like on the field? I went to that game. Chuck Peterson. Yeah, he wears yeah. Yeah, he's like a- I haven't heard that. Yeah, he's like a major league player. Jock Peterson. Look at him. At first, I thought it was maybe puka shells, which puka shells are sick. We're paying attention. He's just a bad bitch and it's a mystery for everyone. They'll never know well

2:32:35 what's up with that necklace? Just not saying anything. God, they love diamonds. Yeah, I feel kind of offended. Except Rocky's wearing one. flossy Carter you know the guy on YouTube I follow man you know flossy carter you know the guy uh on youtube uh i follow flossy it looks like a Mr. T starter kit. God damn. Yeah. I know Jake Paul was doing that when he was trying to make that bet with Eddie Hearn.

2:35:02 That makes sense. The claim is that it's not a Rolex. Maybe it was a broken one. No, endure. No. It's Groove, Groove Life. This is the best for like, because I lifted today. Shout out to Chandler. Yeah, but it says a Frankenstein watch What does that mean? you buy a used one and you fix a couple pieces previously a vintage watch expert at Analog Shift,

2:38:02 like it's got a different band and a different bezel or something like that Where the fuck is he? yeah it's pretty badass yeah the handle's made out of mammoth who made that uh outfit up in No. Look at this. And then this, Montana Knife Company. Yeah. You know what I mean? And then on top of all that, the people. I know. list? Was it? Right. I think they just decide that someone's problematic

2:42:39 Whenever you say, God dang, this guy's smart, it makes people hard to listen to you. Well, I mean, he says goofy things sometimes like we all do. Remember when this used to be alive. Oh my god. Yeah, that's some problem with that is that people are profiting off of it content that you put out. They love what you say because look at that. Number one, new release.

2:44:31 and it's still number one. You have inspired me. Let's end on that little wishy-washy shit. All right, Endure, it's available.