Joe Rogan Experience #1823 — Neal Brennan Transcript

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0:00 The Joe Rogan Experience. Yeah, it's just a little different. You don't seem to care that much, which I like. It's a, or some young celebrity I fucking pity those people so much under 30 you have no chance I people want things from you like they want to talk to you about some fucking thing that they're doing. Like, that's how you go broke. People are super friendly

2:57 Their traffic bad is like ambulance driver fucking everyone i went to visit a friend of mine and he was down uh like i think To see how long it really takes. Yeah. and sold it to Warner Brothers to they sold like all their library to Netflix And by the way, this is a special that he produced himself But you know he had gotten to the point where he was willing to

6:12 of those cases like he was like i'm gonna take out a loan and i'm going to pay everyone's salary Yeah. But like to be there when re created that show in the improv lab back when the lab was a real lab I went from the intro. And I had a buddy of mine with me. It was so bad. It's way too big. based on what the subject was. you know, the store and then eventually take it on the road and then eventually sell it to comedy central and

9:26 when he was feuding with Howard Stern mm-hmm so like it was one of the fun I don't think it was necessarily his stance on podcasts, but boy, was he wrong about that. I wonder what he thinks of you, your Spotify shit. Oh, yeah. If Stern leaves Like they're legitimately fucked I was trying to get about 10% less famous. listen to all the time you get addicted to them it wasn't that hard it wasn't like you needed to get

12:11 come into the kitchen yeah you have and every you just get like vomit it smells like vomit and old And I'm like, where the fuck? but it was beautiful, Strange music playing. You have Dave Chappelle smoking weed in your secret bar. He's got to move around like that. Well, it increased his legend. Really? Yeah? What happens with those shows is the network and the executives and the production company realized that there's a big windfall

15:48 So when they go, Larry David and Jerry Seinfeld got $100 million. weird moment where everyone's trying to figure out like how much can they take like negotiate Literally never thought about it. No, this is wrong. Like no no no he gets this many How's it doing it It's doing good. Yeah. Yeah. I'm not getting into that. Joe, I'm not touching that. I love doing comedy here, too.

18:54 All that's gone. I did the Cretan Cave. I forgot I literally was like why didn't you shoot it and he was like oh That's one of the reasons why he's so crazy. Yeah. white precious what else do you need to know he's so funny i love that fucking like he's one of those The fucking Biden was amazing. i mean he was probably half joking anyway, but you know how it is.

22:03 But he's one of those guys that has the courage to go what the fuck are you guys talking about and also what's going on And they care about righteousness. I always point out the fact that Martin Luther King had God. Yeah. he was a reverend for real yeah like so he had like he had Yeah, and the way they're expressing it. He's found a different reason. Yeah, and like remember on CNN

24:02 russia yeah you're out of your fucking mind i was i didn't do a joke but uh where where um zolensky was like hey can Fighting force and it turned out to be very disorganized and fucked up. It's very disorganized very fucked up So all the Ukrainians do is get to the side of the road and wait for them to come towards them and then fucking shoot them.

25:40 Yeah, let's go. And is he going to be worse? Mm-hmm They don't care. And he was one of the guys that I had on early in the podcast. that shit then on top of that you are also like when you're doing a lot of drugs There was an article that I put on Twitter. of covid it's way harder to get than covid is oh i'm not worried about monkey pox i'm just more

29:38 some people wound up getting it from having risky sex. Dudes, you can't get pregnant. in a few weeks without treatment But it's just they're running out of stuff to scare people about. All 10 of those cases have been in Europe. Prairie dogs. have reported monkey pox this month. Who's keeping a pet? Those aren't like the sheep, the ones that herd sheep for you?

33:11 Like, they set up rifles with, like, long-range scopes on them and shoot them. Because when these prairie dogs leave their holes, cows and horses step in those holes. fuck them twice i wonder if you could eat them they're probably not even delicious Um, he, um, he had to quit for a while before they would let him do ayahuasca. Did he just did he have any sort of withdrawal or no not really?

34:30 But I think he's even better. Interesting. And I think it's beneficial. Uh-huh. And he didn't even piss. Do you bring his own cooler? No, we got it for him. We had him all on ice from we know when he's coming And very much, you know, aware. Yeah, but in a fun way, you know Like I'm struggling to hide my slurring. And then we have a show there at 10.

37:30 and Saturday? Where are you? You got a new hour? Is that you know? The new one's better, yeah. I agree. You got to know when to let them. Like, I don't think it's not funny. and you've got to try to figure out how to shoehorn that bit And then the some that I wish I could do again because I didn't do them as good as I could have. uh and he's like i'm gonna show you the next time i have an hour i'll show it to you before i'm like

40:54 You're like, fuck. That's fucking great. or like it's a great it was for comedy central and it was a great thing because he just He would. Did you believe any of the stuff they said about Depp in the trial? It seems like a guy who is really peaceful and really calm all the time would never get involved with someone some sort of social credit or attention usually those things you can get away with those things

44:22 And now you're getting confronted by it and you realize it's overcome your whole life. when she likes you, But you guys are doing coke, and you're drinking, and you're going crazy, Yeah. with the UK newspaper where they called him a wife beater and he sued them and There's no, it's like, there's no, Her name is Camille. i did god damn it it's fucking weed her name is uh it's camille right it's camille it's camille

47:40 Let's have you look bad a little bit. I think I don't think so they'd be like, oh, my God, this is like a criminal enterprise. And then she had a year and a half to give it away and did give it away. Why did I say I would do that? It's people. Crazy. He made up all this shit about his life and she found out after they had already been dating. Because you want to take people at their word.

50:56 full of shit what if she has a fake accent what if she's faking you can tell what she's faking jail that's hilarious that's I have three great calls like that Cosby I never liked He's got a V like a mutt. Really? And there's a picture with him. to join the military. That's right. go to Coronado Bud's You paid for that, Joe. Jamie's become a full on fiend.

54:59 He doesn't have like, I feel like the muscles are gone. I think he'll... Those things are tricky. because i've had some spine issues so his his disc was bulging right and It pokes out, and it touches a nerve. Yeah, so, like, it's range, right? The normal range out of its cavity like the area yeah so like it's range right the They pioneered it in Germany.

57:53 But it's made out of your own blood. Implant put in his spine. Whoa, bro. Yeah where he's got one of his discs have been replaced massage-like, painful. and I go, I have that. Basically, you have two eyes and they create a unified field of vision. your right eye right eye all that's the only like signal it recognizes so like that joke in wayne's But it's one and a half.

1:02:01 the time you know michael bisping no who's's that? He was the UFC middleweight champion. Well, he always fought with his left left hand forward his right eye is the switched the light on or off but he can't see anything in that eye in that eye yeah yeah like which eye you're seeing out of without bling you just oh that's crazy go this is now i'm dominant

1:04:34 there's there's uh fletchings which you know you'd think of as feathers with or the the back end okay want a little bit of flex yeah because it'll be i'll slow mo it's a little flex but i'm wondering You're aiming at the bullseye and the trajectory is from the exit to the bullseye is like... It'll still have like a little bit of this to it, And you run it through a chronograph

1:06:59 thing is like much more exact because i'm not looking through a scope when i'm doing this Well, it takes quite a bit. It's all done in how much the bow is going to release with so much energy, So he was using a recurve bow where you can get into this range. With traditional archery, good luck, bitch. It's like, I mean, I kind of know how to do this part

1:09:53 it's like you're kind of, like, almost, like, less connected to it It relaxes me. Like is this going to go where I want it to go? Can I not grow? I think it's an exercise for keeping the mind active in a way that makes it non-competitive in regular everyday life. got out and exercise you think did something like archery is conflict resolution or you think it's

1:12:51 I've been dedicating my time to this thing stuff too it's like just accept what you are like you're a human being and one of the things that It's it's kind of difficult like when you're at full draw and you're trying to hit a target and you're you know You're just constantly you're you're trying to use fucking joke's coming up yeah and then you'll fucking you'll flub it again yeah thereby ruining

1:15:12 It'll just be better automatically. like imagine being a news broadcaster Right, right, right. The people in the the studio they all read off teleprompter Right. Just tell me the fucking news. Music is an emotional cue and it makes it a story and it's good guys and bad guys and heroes and Joseph Campbell shit and if we weren't responsible damn it. We couldn't get our hands

1:18:25 And the guy fucking called so many things. Man. Yeah, this is like... It doesn't get too low. Does Fox have a breaking news? Not really. It's not even a revolving door. She got it. Kevin Love. and then like kevin love will probably be announced for Cleveland in two years and ESPN It was fucking great. would love to see one of those because watching this one live was fucking amazing.

1:23:02 Is there anyone more annoying than the soccer fan We call it soccer. It was fun. I think you get some real fucking good replays and shit if you're watching on television. So being singled or married, that's what you're saying. Well, their legs, man. You're absolutely sprinting. he's got that soccer podcast so we had made a deal like okay when i do we're gonna go see uh a soccer

1:26:14 think kids stick with it yeah i think so too yeah i had a this is big family problem is uh uh when they said shin guards I my family said you mean knee pads that we're gonna just tell neil our shin guards and i didn't I did my new hour like in New York for like four months, like off Broadway. Just because you were just hitting it wild? funny it like make a louder noise whatever whatever um you have a photo of it yeah hold on

1:28:45 you could kind of get away with it a little bit more you have this nice fair text bag that's not It's so effective. you want to get your shin like right into here, Yeah, it was in Bellator. Jon Jones is the master of that. It's like it's not working right. and he's trying to punch him, I just wanna blend in, I just wanna get the guys on camera. Everyone's already weighed in that day.

1:31:41 weighing in early in the morning, sometimes as early as like 10 a.m., maybe even earlier. Great. And they think they might be able to get a psychological edge. oh they canceled the fight cancel the fight because of the push and if you watch him watch Watch his head. know what happened i really have no idea other than dracar was out for quite a while he was out

1:34:17 blood cancer is that real that's what i've heard yeah yeah but are we are we being propagandized? I've heard it from people who would know, In years, he shadowed him for his project Wow well they're And you're dying of cancer. someone's in a fixed fight, I call it a Putin karate tournament. They talk about the amount of detachment you get when you're famous.

1:36:24 Yeah. right now, up until this war, Yeah, before right before COVID I was scouting COVID uh I was in China and they they have How do you say that word? For sure, that guy has access to the fucking full internet. right your mom's on Facebook So it's just a matter of like open, but like you're kind of just naturally cautious. I didn't know that since 2012.

1:40:20 Did you watch the Navalny documentary? And by the way, it's not a shot of him, And I bet Putin's like, oh, no, not my mistress. Yeah. If you're the president of Russia for that long, I mean, he gets whatever he wants. No, this is Vladimir's. first of all killing someone with a ring is super impractical you'll hurt your hand What's kind of funny, though, that that is what's protected,

1:43:28 Oh, my God. So there's no repetitive stress injuries with you just train for kickboxing or jiu-jitsu? that's how that's fucking real important you need recovery you can't just work out and sometimes people just go What an insane sport. I literally just went to the box office, handed over the money. One, two, and three on Netflix. Oh, yeah. the video of me and shab is fucking hilarious because it's animated crazy but the video of me and shop is fucking hilarious because

1:46:31 It's more shadow, right? Chocolate them up. Yeah, tell it's almost like you need to put some dark on them like get the chocolate a month chocolate a month No. What percentage body fat do you think? Lower? Oh, but that might not be real. your back like when they get that christmas tree thing and their lower back and they're flexing don't even make that much money doing it

1:49:13 He doesn't even get laid that much more. Like, it looks like photos. That's what you see? grandfathers should be dead. Bro, look at that. That's got to be photoshopped. It doesn't look right. That's photoshopped for real. Okay, so clearly. It's a deep fake. That's insane. Is super super And it's also Yeah. Well, body dysmorphia is hard not to have.

1:52:10 Yeah that It looks like you've got Like it like and you can't compete no there's no there's no advantage you can trick like one person with yeah the interest is extreme and then it gets like but it's also like girls with giant Remember that? underneath them. You know you don't look like the way you presented yourself. It doesn't bother them at all.

1:54:59 Yeah, like you can pretend. Yeah, there's one crazy guy that we detailed on the show. sit down for you have to lay i'm assuming you have to lay on your stomach for a couple weeks. I'm looking at the video of this guy surgeries, and this is the one who's like him. He looks like an Instagram filter. It's a hell of a butt, though. That's you. I like the guy on the left. So this guy,

1:57:25 Do you have to take them out? Were they infected or one of those things? yeah your body's like why is this here why is this here why is this here why is No. Yeah, the thinking that that looks good. Some people get it done and you're like, this shit looks good. Isn't that Kylie? And then they have kids, and you're just like, Oh, my God. Because you want a more contoured chin what the fuck are

2:00:50 great face but it's like he was a freak yeah you know before that and then he became this handsome just acknowledge what it's like i'm just waiting for fat bodybuilding because that's one of the And it's like, well, it's a different thing. Crazy. Well, the thing is, it's like, well, what are you – are you talking about personalities? Either you're talking about like she has a beautiful spirit. Just put someone who is a great writer or a great comedian or someone that has a great personality.

2:03:46 Like if bodybuilding, if everybody looks like Bert Kreischer and they're like, that's beautiful too. Nobody had any food. diabetes. made to make you feel better. There's no doubt about it. It's like people do have faster metabolism. Oh, yeah, morbidly obese. But would Sports Illustrated put a heroin addict woman on the cover? It's terrible for you.

2:06:50 that might believe you. that these people that aren't this heavy seem to be happier. They used to lie to themselves and say that I feel great. It's just not. Doesn't mean, it's like you're making of people are are uh obese now i think it's we did it recently what was it jamie it was in the 40s and what if they ramped up the number of scooters? maybe she's injured maybe I'm wrong right maybe I'm wrong yeah but I saw a

2:10:02 everybody else is walking yeah i guess with people, they can't really walk that much. but they're nice and we don't want to shame people and the truth about shame in my experience is And the thing is you're going to have people, Well, what do you call it? It's like It's a good number. No. Wait a minute. They had a natural reaction. And also, it's like for comics, there's the moment after you fucking film when you have sheer terror because you realize, I don't really have an act anymore.

2:13:52 Like two grams in the notebook or five grams in the notebook? like one of the little digital recorders, Hi, I've used the I'll remember this method no you won't hi I've used the I'll remember this method and no you won't yeah I have the notes app too You don't even have to touch your phone. classes or you'll or it's an earpiece or something where it'll come in it's um it's it's

2:15:55 We could test it right now. That was a great gig. Oh my good really really nice making in that cheddar But did you have to use an Android phone because you had an Android phone for a while? Yeah in that time I want to talk about, because I'm your depression correspondent. Here's what I've done all right i did uh i did cat i did like zoloft for a long time right 15 years of zoloft

2:17:41 And then I realized like, I don't experience joy. I don't want to do it, but I get it. Can I ask you something about this? so dilated from the all the oxytocin like more than anyone i've seen get off stage like a dip I'm dead serious. You know how wild that would be? No. camera coverage and narrative and a So fast. So as you're going it banks mmm car like actually like every team has one at this point

2:21:35 They all do simulators, whether it's the $1.5 million or the $100,000 one. Yeah, like any, just reps. supercar capability well I was doing a joke about when you were saying well I'll be out of your hair in a second. No, it's a pleasure was all mine. He doesn't have to slam A Hennessy TRX. Huh. like i was always like hey man what's up and you're like oh hey hi like you almost like well

2:25:00 Yeah. and I would, That probably was like i did fear factor and then uh i did the chappelle show and i knew that you were running it with dave So Dave would walk by go horse Gracie you tapped out horse Gracie and Eddie would go no That wasn't that long before. i saw it on tv i had to put my hand in my face like this like oh i remember writing jokes for

2:27:59 it's hard but uh you guys had a special thing man yeah. Yeah, I agree. You really did. And Dave is especially good at that. I did it with Bobcat Goldway. And Stephen King asked the fucking, in retrospect, the coolest question. this we're getting good breaks yeah like good like randomly yeah like opportunistic you know And so. then i was distressed that again that good. To have an accomplishment like that.

2:30:46 I got a good feeling and then a bad feeling when it it ended but i had a good feeling from doing it i really love doing it and it felt yeah. Right. It's Shane Gillis. Just put that on. Like, here, play this. Fuck you, you fucking piece of shit, ugly, fat, orange. Tana looks like someone painted her face like a clown. I'm disgusting. When you walked in, I could practically smell you.

2:34:05 I Any interest? How am I polling with you? Could you take your gigantic perfect tits and leave? that were put in 5G, my brain that wanted the meth. Oh my God, I won. I don't think wouldn't be smart You think I could do that? So, yeah. where it's like, I don't know. Somewhere around then? And then around that time, I tried ketamineflix special it was like it felt good and then around that time i tried

2:38:12 They just say like this is a good depression. No, they say it works on some people, but they don't say you're gonna have a complete Are there rails on the side? And there were machine elves, and then I kept seeing like maps of California little goofy little- I never thought of them as machines. Then I did. Yeah. Wow. And it just kind of felt, I kind of felt hungover.

2:41:58 But the next day, I felt so bad. But you were on 5-HTP. It's a serotonin precursor. But a lot of people take those kind of things to come down after ecstasy like you could buy it that you could buy 5-htp on amazon and all Have you tried AlphaBrain? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think that's just the flavors. proprietary blend, 515 milligrams. and acetyl tyrosine what does

2:45:27 mental performance alertness yeah okay so l-tyrosine is given as a supplement to increase People don't think that that works. Is that measured through activity? apparently it's measurable. Well, that's what I'm always impressed with about you is the the amount of weed you smoke and it doesn't you have going to get rid of it? I don't think that's the case

2:48:02 Dunbar's number. It's all, It's actually more complicated than we thought. Yeah. have so much fucking information in your head that's why I like a lot of guys are Yeah, he'll figure it out. incredibly gifted in one area you're going to be deficient in another area a lot of times it's Oh yeah. Oh yeah. Whatever the fuck it is. he's got hearing aids when he he plays, he shuts them off.

2:51:00 and just gets into it. where it's like every great athlete is crazy. You know what the second most of all time is? It's like 04. guy who's unquestionably healthy uh-huh look at his choice uh-huh he chooses to smoke out of a Such a snitch. So it just tripped you out, but it didn't make your depression any better. Another office in Yeah, maybe. Yeah.

2:53:45 I don't even, I'm like, what even, how could I get runner's high? I exhausted it. I was doing a show and I ended up getting like a supercharged version of TMS. Ooh, the buildup is killing me. Send a video through the sky. Is it better? watch an ozark with a helmet on well that's what you end up doing anyway rewind it I'm like, why am I taking Zoloft?

2:57:35 i like cried about groups of people groups of people i don't know just like gatherings of Yeah. And then I find a better – that guy was kind of a lightweight. the ayahuasca for like eight to ten minutes it's like a fucking mushroom and in super mario So it's spelled rape, but it's with an umlaut over the E. hit option and then hit hit e and I'm just gonna come up. Can you Google Rappay? Yeah, there we go.

3:00:39 Yeah, and you're like I'm like a new age goofball is what I'm trying to tell you. experience I've ever had in my entire life. 12 years of Catholic school, altar boy, church, mass, fucking nothing. And this is all highlighted by the hallucinations happening, the neurotransmitters and the way it's affecting your brain. ayahuasca and that ayahuasca makes you reach that state, or if you reach that state from saying an

3:03:17 It might be. Yeah. mocking getting mocked all the way so so the fourth time i do it the that circle My friend Catherine was sort of like very uneasy and then and I it wasn't working for me and I kept You're alone. And I was for like, he said about two and a half hours. Yeah, like I'm never gonna, That's incredible. Yeah. I heard a tiger. that one where the guy was possessed, they had to pour salt in his mouth, like real

3:10:12 do you do you think that your state of mind in going into the ceremony has an effect on it or Yeah. It's a lot of caffeine. Okay. because I'm like what yeah okay so he opens the room to spirits I start shaking like this for an hour two hours three hours shaking like this and like the funny thing is like I'll get an itch on my nose and I'll be like. And then it just resumes like so I'm not doing it.

3:12:26 doing a little sexy little dance cuz the music's excellent great and I'm like I It's nuts. I don't feel crazy. I'm not weirded out by it. It's so easy to dismiss because it sounds so preposterous. and it's not for everybody i don't think it's for everybody it's not for everybody. I don't think it's for everybody. Yeah, I agree. It's not for everybody.

3:14:44 Oh wow. the ceremonies i had the thought like i have my mom's software and my dad's hardware oh wow and I hate to say it's a different dimension, but it's a different fucking dimension. It's a different dimension but it's a different fucking dimension it's a different dimension and you with the Icaros and you watch them dance Yeah. But I can sing it now.

3:16:32 Or either that or DMT syncs up to it. the history of that area this is where it gets really interesting the history of that area probably wasn't all just rural tribes like what they think and had these incredible encounters with people, They're finding what used to be like the patterns of cities and irrigation and shit. Yeah, it's fucking wild The Amish.

3:19:16 Here's a crazy- I'll buy it. Like, you know, Bert Kreischer takes his shirt off. Over how many years? Do I seem depleted in any way? where there's scholars now believe that the whole idea of Moses talking to the burning bush, What if it was just burning the bush and you could burn it into a confined area and you'd You know, when Western scientists first started working with ayahuasca and isolating it

3:21:57 world is if it's not harming but telepathy there's a thing called telepathy and you take it what beyond, the words don't exist. It's like, that just has to get out there. that's the that's the weird part about it is people have these uh ideas that people are Okay. The way you described it blast off. So I go and I do it. I don't know. like, no, That was just kind of how I explained it to myself.

3:27:42 bullshit yeah or recognize that you genuinely have seen something that has the possibility and the capability to reset your Saturday night, Ryan Hamilton, great comedian, came to my show. I feel like I was a hundred feet away It was just a, Here's the crazy part. It wasn't warm. There was no human interface. creating things that's that was what i experienced and and and but so that was saturday night sunday

3:30:35 Yeah. It's so strong. It just whites out. Yeah. Yeah. and Monday, I had the thought, and then plus I have this divergent Not even a little. this. But I also knew it again well the a lot of people have reactivations so it's like i've read 70 percent aiming for god and i missed my stop uh so i knew i knew intuitively do not meditate. Really? I just knew in like,

3:34:34 yep. So I knew like, Well, the funny thing was that was November 5th and I was getting better every day. For how long? Like mountains and all the fish. of dmt while it was conscious and then it tried to reintroduce it your brain probably remembered do you say it's real and what is it if everybody has this profound experience that seems like Like, I literally quit. it's something about the

3:38:32 I can feel it. and I don't mean my values are different. And it's all better. Shit your body does without you thinking about it. Yeah, it's dangerous. Like I was literally like, I can't talk about it, would take care of me like be careful watch what you're doing like what if one of those cars comes the circle and when I did the third time I was like fuck the third time was I

3:42:34 the edge is it has an edge to it those things didn't have they don't have borders they have an if you try to wrestle with it you're i've seen people wrestle with it it's crazy they start That's what I mean. I'm better. Maybe that's what you have to do. self you know everyone's like wow yeah like that's a big and it was like yeah I didn't I I think the world to you, too.